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bobevanz
bobevanz - 2/18/2023, 12:06 PM
Those were the worst credit scenes ever! So it turns out, the Conqueror was just a winy punk who doesn't matter when compared to the sketch comedy Kangs lmao
Frshcoupe
Frshcoupe - 2/18/2023, 12:27 PM
@bobevanz - exactly lol.
McMurdo
McMurdo - 2/18/2023, 1:32 PM
@bobevanz - I wish Kang was more intense and psychological. He's so hammy thus far.
SonOfAGif
SonOfAGif - 2/18/2023, 11:12 PM
@bobevanz - Kang is actually a title in the Grand scheme of things. They are all chasing the title of "The Conqueror". They exiled the variant in Ant-Man due to him being the closest to a conqueror as any. He was a threat.
Vigor
Vigor - 2/19/2023, 5:11 PM
@bobevanz - I actually really don't think Kang from antman3 is dead though.
Origame
Origame - 2/18/2023, 12:13 PM
Yeah, the Kang build up has been weak so far. First one was taken out by a loki variant right away. The second was beaten by f@#$ing ant man. About all they have going on here is numbers, but that can only take you so far.

Take Thanos as a better example. First time we knew about him is learning he's the mastermind behind a threat that required the avengers to form in order to stop it. Next he had another underling nearly destroy the nova Corp. But they were specific not to have he himself lose until endgame. And even in his 2 defeats in those movies, he had some form of victory, such as destroying the stones or effectively killing iron man respectively.
Frshcoupe
Frshcoupe - 2/18/2023, 12:28 PM
@Origame - there won’t be anything like the infinity saga. Thanos was awesome. They really have some big shoes to fill and it’s not off to a good start.
McMurdo
McMurdo - 2/18/2023, 1:35 PM
@Origame - they kinda made Thanos look dumb once Feige retconned Loki's staff into a Infinity Gem. It meant that Thanos gave Loki a Infinity stone to get him an Infinity stone to then lose both Infinity stones.
Origame
Origame - 2/18/2023, 1:53 PM
@McMurdo - yeah kinda. But at least that's something you'd have to think about after the fact. Kang just loses to ant man right in front of us.
Mrtoke
Mrtoke - 2/18/2023, 2:38 PM
@Origame - I think beyonder is the ultimate variant while this kang is sorta like Loki- entitled.
Scarilian
Scarilian - 2/18/2023, 3:01 PM
@Origame -
Weak? It's been absolutely pathetic.

Phase 4 had no Kang build-up at all and then he just shows up to monologue and get killed by a Loki variant.

Phase 5 comes along and we're told a ton of stuff about Kang, but they never show him as legitimately a threat. He monologues and gets beaten by Ant-Man, the weakest of the Avengers. Then we see a bunch of Kangs and they are all narcissistic hooting hollering idiots in a football stadium. It's a complete failure and the only benefit it had was Jonathan Majors, but even he is just doing a William Shatner impression.
SonOfAGif
SonOfAGif - 2/18/2023, 11:58 PM
@McMurdo - Or Thanos knew if Loki failed on Earth it would leave two infinity stones on the same planet making them easier to obtain because up until that point he believed he was the only one capable of using the stones. Humans were ants to him.
BatmanBeenDrinking
BatmanBeenDrinking - 2/19/2023, 12:54 PM
@Origame - so far he who remains is my favorite variant, because he felt powerful. He only let himself get killed after living for who knows how long and being done with it. He could have kept playing the game but he left the choice up to them. That's power. In my opinion if marvel really wanted to set up Kang the conquer as a genuine threat to the avengers this movie should have been an extended version of a we got when we saw Thanos humiliate the hulk and thor, showing how powerful he can really be and him winning.
Vigor
Vigor - 2/19/2023, 5:15 PM
@Origame - perhaps it's not translating well to the movies but this is actually how Kang is portrayed in other forms of media. He poses this big game but gets defeated and then comes back time and time again, no pun intended. Like ultron, he's an immediate and PERSISTENT threat.

They're stretching this over 3 years of movies so it's a slow burn. I can see how it makes Kang seem underwhelming. But if they did it like thanos, where his destructive potential is only hinted and not revealed til the final movie, then that takes away from the immediacy of Kang. He's going to be omnipresent and force the next wave of Avengers to step forward.

But I hear what you're saying. I'm just adding some color here that they're being super respectful of how Kang is portrayed
Origame
Origame - 2/19/2023, 5:19 PM
@Vigor - well then he shouldn't be a Thanos like threat built up over time. He should be a one and done villain like ultron was.
Vigor
Vigor - 2/19/2023, 5:29 PM
@Origame - but he's not. Because he has dominion over time. He keeps coming back. They cant beat him by punching him. They have to outsmart him (ala Dormammu). That is Kang.
They actually effed up Ultron in the movies. ULTRON should keep coming back too. They actually have ultron on the Disney dream cruise line and have shown ultron heads in spiderman and other Disney plus Content. So in some ways he's still around. And there could be a multiverse version of ultron.

But in the movies I'm the first to admit they messed him up! But Kang. Kang is accurately portrayed
EZBeast
EZBeast - 2/18/2023, 12:14 PM
@MarioT1000 - #4
MarioT1000
MarioT1000 - 3/6/2023, 8:48 PM
@EZBeast - oh man missed this one weeks later 😂
EZBeast
EZBeast - 3/6/2023, 9:58 PM
@MarioT1000 - swear to god there were 3 more the next day 😆
EgoEgor
EgoEgor - 2/18/2023, 12:15 PM
Kang got beat by Antman and Wasp, and a bunch of ants. How is he gonna beat Thor and Captain Marvel? Getting beat in this movie kind of makes him look like a whim. And don't give me "he lost his tech" nonsense.
bobevanz
bobevanz - 2/18/2023, 12:29 PM
@EgoEgor - somehow he's killed them many times hahaha
Origame
Origame - 2/18/2023, 12:49 PM
@bobevanz - I'm still trying to figure out how the tva was able to take on supersoldiers, captain marvels, eternals, and variants of Thanos with their sticks.
Toonstrack
Toonstrack - 2/18/2023, 2:50 PM
@EgoEgor - no, Kang got beat by ant man, wasp, thousands of refugee fighters with weaponry and military fortresses and supergeniuses.... and ants.

What you're doing is the equivalent to saying Iron Man soloed Thanos. Stop it
Scarilian
Scarilian - 2/18/2023, 2:55 PM
@Toonstrack -
This is still your big bad and he's been killed twice and about to be defeated several times more.
MyCoolYoung
MyCoolYoung - 2/18/2023, 3:12 PM
@EgoEgor - I think a lot of yall miss the point of him not being able to tap into the time stream. All he had was his Suit but couldn't stop time or know what's coming. Without technology he's just a man
Toonstrack
Toonstrack - 2/18/2023, 7:49 PM
@Scarilian - so? Thanks died twice too.

Kang isn't some overwhelming powerhouse, hes not unbeatable but his plans are and his mind is
GodHercules20
GodHercules20 - 2/19/2023, 7:38 AM
@EgoEgor - Thanos got beaten by Squirrel Girl in the comics. More stupid shit has happened in the comics.
SuperSoldierG
SuperSoldierG - 2/19/2023, 12:38 PM
@MyCoolYoung - Thank You. Real fans of the books know his time chair is his greatest weapon. Sheesh.
MyCoolYoung
MyCoolYoung - 2/19/2023, 1:16 PM
@SuperSoldierG - shit even the movie says this. Janet literally stated that to hank and hope, but for someone reason people glossed over it. I guess to make their hatred point
SeanMPC
SeanMPC - 2/18/2023, 12:19 PM
I think the silery metal suit Kang was more Beyonder looking, no?
roboticJohnson
roboticJohnson - 2/18/2023, 12:19 PM
Honestly I almost burst out laughing during the first post credits scene. I mean, those costumes looked kinda cheap (and I may be wrong but weren't they also obviously cgi, and bad cgi at that?) and then they showed the place full of kang variants screaming like fans at a soccer game... These are supposed to be geniuses and conquerors, what's up with that? Who approved that scene?
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