EDITORIAL: Does Casting in CBM’s Matter As Much As We Think?

EDITORIAL: Does Casting in CBM’s Matter As Much As We Think?

From Michael Keaton to Jesse Eisenberg, whenever an actor or actress is announced playing a certain comic book character, the fandom kingdom rushes to bash or praise the casting. But does it matter as much as we think? Click the jump to read BatmanHeisenberg’s thoughts!

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By BatManHeisenberg - 2/15/2014
For years, many fans have enjoyed fan-casting actors into their favorite comic book characters. Often times, these fans type-cast actors. While sometimes type-casting is ideal for certain roles, sometimes its better to think outside the box of typecasting paranoia, which some casting directors do, to the fury of many.

A thing I have noticed is the fact that the most controversial casting choices have been the ones who have never played a character like the one he or she is going to play. A YouTube reviewer by the name of JeremyJahns said he didn’t see anything Ben Affleck did acting wise warranting the casting. This is the mindset of fanboys. If the actor or actress doesn’t have any previous roles that remind them of the character in question they bash the choice.



My rule of thumb for casting is this. If you haven’t read the script, AND you didn’t see the actor’s audition, should we really complain? Now while an actor may have poor acting skills in the eyes of some, those eyes certainly weren’t the directors. From what I understand about the casting process is that several audition a scene from the film, and the casting board makes a final decision based on how the actor or actress played the character the script warranted.

So should acting really matter? In my opinion, no. While it is all the better and we can be put to ease if the actor is established as a fantastic actor, hiring an unknown, truly untested actor is good to. While big name actors can bring in lots of box office, an unknown can bring a lot as well. Often times an unknown looks more like the character, or at least we believe so, because we are used to the big stars face. Also an unknown is usually able to sign a big contract for a smaller amount of money, and can be banked into big franchise opportunities.

I have always considered acting to be when an actor or actress can convince the general audience that he or she is that character. While it is sometimes good to look over the actor or actress cinematic history, often times it is good to go into a film with an open mind. As I previously mentioned, we don’t know the script, nor did we see the audition tape, so sometimes, we just have to go into a film trusting the director and actor or actress will do the character justice.



Now with acting covered, lets talk about a subject that REALLY shouldn’t matter. The look of the actor BEFORE he or she starts shooting. Some common complaints are the actor’s looks, their weight, their eye color?!, their body shape, height and so on and so forth. Obviously, these naysayers have never seen behind the scenes clips. Not only can actors beef up or pump down weight wise, they can do camera tricks to make their height look correct, the production team can apply makeup, and make the actor look more like the character, so on and so forth.

Some disgusting things I have seen are the speaking out against the Shailene Woodley and Gal Gadot casting announcements or set pics. Shailene Woodley, on set before makeup, was walking on set, and some pictures were taken. Many people called her ugly and insulted her. Our own site did this. While the author wrote it was a comedy article, it was still very disgusting. When Gal Gadot was cast as Wonder Woman, the biggest complaints were her body. People complained about breast size, looks and everything else.



Another huge issue brought up is race. Recent casting choices such as Jamie Foxx as Electro have left fans ridiculing to no end. They argue that comic books are a visual medium, and-

Alright people I got it from here, this is Jacky and this is really a heavy issue that has been in debate for a long time. I have taken a slight coverage over this, but for true thoughts to opinions. If race wasn’t the ideal background or importance of the initial character being presented then why is it controversial?

There are some characters such as Electro being mentioned where nothing about race comes from their own background directly as their character. Sometimes it is not important at all of an issue. It should be about the character not race. It should not bring up an entire racial war or fight. It seems only more of a huge deal when it is mentioned within the comics themselves, and it is part of their personality or attitude.



Errrr, okay. While I like having guests, I DON’T like them over uninvited. It’s worse than Gusto’s failed movie projects.

But moving along..

While I believe acting is something we should relax about, at least it is more of a legitimate concern then looks. Films have made people look like aliens so realistic looking, so changing the look of an actor a little bit isn’t really much of a concern. But more than anything, what matters is getting the core of the character right is the most important.

I believe that the core of the character is the most important thing we should worry about. Little story details shouldn’t matter in a film, but how they get the core of the character. Looks and every other nitpick doesn’t matter as long as they get the core of the character, which means their ideals and intentions.

This is BatmanHeisenberg. Big shoutout and thanks to Jacky for the help on the editorial and making the great banners.

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PsychoManiacJacky - 2/15/2014, 12:24 AM
No problem BatmanHeisenberg, just doing my good deeds!

dethpillow - 2/15/2014, 2:14 AM
great article, totally right on that you gotta see the script to have any idea who they're casting for.

that's probably one of the things that bugs me most, and for an example just look at that Eisenberg guy. we have no idea what role he's being cast for, we know it's a guy named Lex Luthor but we don't know what this guy looks like. who this guy is in the script? we don't know. So it's kind of impossible to say... "that's a bad casting for that character". what people should think more along the lines of... is "i don't think i'm gonna like how they've written that character."

which people can still be very angry about, but that slight difference in how you perceive it makes a lot of difference. becuz it's admitting that we don't know what's they're gonna do. just saying "ugh, bad casting", well that assumes a lot and it's what's most annoying about comments like that. it's too tidy. it's smug and it's annoying.

like if Captain Kirk was cast as a 90 year old bald man, and Spock was cast as a 3 year old kid with tons of thick blond hair all the way down his forehead, you wouldn't think.."ugh, bad casting". you'd be like, what the hell? what kind of story is going on here, what's going on? this sounds awful...

but you would assume, rightfully, that it wasn't a mistake of the casting people. it wasn't just something that slipped by their attention. you would have to admit that you didn't know what could possibly be going on.

and it maybe to some people sounds like i'm splitting hairs, especially with an extreme example, but it makes a big difference. becuz people are idiots when they act like they know everything. and clearly, we don't know what the film makers are trying to do. it's really not even our business.

dethpillow - 2/15/2014, 2:33 AM
and thing is too, you can tell so much about a person from sitting in a room, physically with them and having a drink. or even just a interview. that's why jobs do interviews, it's not about the questions asked it's to get a feel for who you are. same with acting, you can see something in a person and know it's gonna work out or not, in a very short amount of time. sometimes, maybe it takes longer, but we have to remember, the directors and the casting directors have met the actor usually and have got a chance to feel things out.

that itself is 1000 times more valuable than sitting and watching a person's movies 100 times and trying to find someone who's done a similar role in the past. that's actually a terrible marker of whether someone is actually gonna work out. and also i think a lot of people don't realize that it's not just if a person CAN do a certain role, but more a question of if they will be able to get along with everybody else involved and whether they are gonna work on that level. which is incredibly important. there's so much that goes into that we have not even the faintest clue about, that it's really silly to act like an authority on pretty much any casting. within reasonable limits.

and right on, i agree, all that stuff about Shailene Woodley was just baby man man candy store jive. all this entitlement and the ridiculous assumption that anyone has any right to attack someone else on that level and act so smug and judgmental about it. i would love to savage, rip to pieces all those people, hold them up in front of a court of glassy mirrors and item by item, dissect their flaws. "Men" are the most smug, false and baby fatted little walrus monkeys on the planet. and it's a total insult to every male who is living to have these morons represent a gender. i don't know if they're in the majority or the minority, actually... these baby fat man man "men", but we're gonna take them down. and we're gonna stuff a baseball in their mouths and kick their skulls to the curb. intellectually speaking, not violently of course. i'm sick of "men" and that whole thing reminds me of how much i hate this institution of castrated slavery. "men" have no dicks. they bent over and let them get cut off a long time ago.
they're never gonna steal the love, we're taking it back.
Doopie - 2/15/2014, 5:13 AM
i agree. all kinds of tricks can be used to make an actor look different...tom cruise has been looking 6' for years on film! what's important is that the character is written well and performed well. the 'big' roles in CBMs will always take the most flak for casting as these are the characters that are most important to fans like us, but you're right; without seeing the finished product it's nigh on impossible to make an informed opinion
charlie2094 - 2/15/2014, 5:44 AM
Great article!!

I agree, unless you know the script or the character they're going for, or have seen an audition, can't really judge casting. Sure Eisenberg fits their version of Lex else he wouldn't have been cast. He wasn't my choice, but mine clearly wasn't the one they were going for, so no harm done. Same with Gal Gadot, sure she fits the Wonder Woman they're going for and clearly impressed to get the role, so can't really judge her until you at least see some footage...can do so many tricks with film, right lighting, makeup, costume, script etc

Can't judge off of a previous role. An actors job is to portray a character, not themselves. If Affleck hasn't done a role like Batman before, that means nothing. He's an actor, so he'll adapt to fit the character they want him to play...

It's ok to maybe be upset that your choice wasn't cast, but given you know nothing about said film, can't really make an informed opinion...usually just bitching and such, often quite pathetic to witness

Again, great stuff :D
DrunkenNukem - 2/15/2014, 7:01 AM
"As I previously mentioned, we don’t know the script, nor did we see the audition tape, so sometimes, we just have to go into a film trusting the director and actor or actress will do the character justice."

"Some disgusting things I have seen are the speaking out against the Shailene Woodley and Gal Gadot casting announcements or set pics. Shailene Woodley, on set before makeup, was walking on set, and some pictures were taken. Many people called her ugly and insulted her. Our own site did this. While the author wrote it was a comedy article, it was still very disgusting. When Gal Gadot was cast as Wonder Woman, the biggest complaints were her body. People complained about breast size, looks and everything else. "

Nailed there ...that is for some people in this website that use pathetic excuses to hate a casting...people posting big boobies WW pictures like if WW must look like a porn star...of course its only a few people

Glad to see common sense in this website..

thumbs up
Facade - 2/15/2014, 7:04 AM
It does matter. When it works, it's gold...I'll site the entire cast of LOTR, but when it doesn't, it kills a character...here I'll site Kate Bosworth (Lois Lane) and Jessica Alba (Sue Storm).
tonytony - 2/15/2014, 7:09 AM
Casting does matter. Look at rdj for iron man or heath ledger for batman.
BatManHeisenberg - 2/15/2014, 7:11 AM
It might have been your comment soto that made me start thinking that. Thanks Duke.

Facade

I was simply saying it doesn't matter as much. It DOES matter, but I was stating that mayve we shouldn't freak out over casting announcements.
TheManFromMars - 2/15/2014, 7:19 AM
The only reason I care about casting is just so I can finally put a face in the characters that will be on screen.

Great article! (Also, props to Jacky's "uninvited" contribution)
Pedrito - 2/15/2014, 7:23 AM
Good write-up.
But I have to ask. Besides possible racist or sexist remarks, is there any damage done from fans reacting negatively to casting news?
Lets face it, the more the fans react, the more comments and page views websites get. So we're not particularly discouraged from expressing divergent opinions. And that's more fun anyway.
GizmoEl - 2/15/2014, 7:47 AM
When casting happens for a comic book movie (and fans don't know the script) we compare the look and feel/presence of the actor to previous version of the character (whether it was an older movie, a cartoon, or the comics itself). Fans feel they know the character well enough to be able to judge whether or not they'd fit the role.

For example, take Ryan Reynolds as Hal. When he was initially casted, many fans complained he wouldn't bring depth to the character and it would make him too comedic. After seeing the movie, people still felt like it wasn't Hal Jordan.. but rather Ryan with a green ring. (I personally didn't mind him in the role. There were way too many other factors that made GL suck). So I'm certain instances.. The fans hesitation and uproar can sometimes be justified.

Sometimes comic book movies get the casting right. They get someone who we can all see as the character. This usually happens when the source material is followed closely. I don't remember seeing an uproar when Cavill was cast as Superman, Samuel L Jackson was cast as Fury, or Anthony Mackie for Falcon. There's also the casting that fans are curious about. Like Chris Hemsworth's Thor, Aaron Taylor Johnson's Quicksilver, Elizabeth Olsen's Scarlet Witch etc. From a fanboys point of view, there is casting that seems perfect, casting that is interesting, and some that come out of left field.

Is Jesse Eisenberg someone I would cast for Lex Luthor? No. The Lex I'm familiar with would be from the animated series. Someone who has a physical presence and strong voice. I also liked Michael Rosembaum's Lex in Smallville. I'm interested to see what Jesse brings to the character but I'm really hesitant about it. The look of him strays from the comics/source material.

In the end it doesn't really matter what we think. We're just along for the ride, very little of what we say makes any difference. (I'm HOPING fan backlash isn't what got Shailene cut from TASM2. I loved her casting and was appalled at this sites reaction. I enjoyed the satire post because it sounded EXACTLY like many of the posters' comments yet everyone seems to only remember that article and not the original backlash).
Facade - 2/15/2014, 8:02 AM
@SotoJuiceMan...actually, I did think Wood was perfect for Frodo. I'm a huge Tolkienite and followed the LOTR sites pre-release of the films and hated the idea of Sean Connery being suggested for Gandalf, yet was keen on the idea of Christopher Lee in the role (go figure). Don't get me started on Stuart Townsend. Sorry about that....

I've never been a fan of the Fantastic Four, but Alba (forgive me) looked like shit with the bad bleach job and freaky blue contacts, especially in Rise...it had nothing to do with the script, though.

Bosworth appeared too young but, you're right, the rest was her flat acting with a bad script.
GizmoEl - 2/15/2014, 8:08 AM
Oh I agree with you completely. It really doesn't matter what we think. Jesse could quite possibly be the greatest Lex Luthor ever. I was just bringing up the reasoning for my hesitation. It's not like the character has never had representation outside of comic books. Lex has been done a number of times and the most popular versions have come from ones that are very similar to his comic book counterpart. I think that's another reason for the hesitation and backlash. Lex is great as he is in the comics so why change that?

But to be honest, I don't really care one way or another. I was just trying to generalize the comic book fandom's reasoning for the backlash in a response to your editorial. You're absolutely right, we don't know what to expect from the movie. All we have to go on is the character we know through the tv shows cartoons and comic books.
DavidMiller - 2/15/2014, 8:08 AM

@BatmanHeisenberg
My rule of thumb for casting is this. If you haven’t read the script, AND you didn’t see the actor’s audition, should we really complain?


Audition, see the actor’s audition?
"The strength of Hercules, the wisdom of Athena, the beauty of Aphrodite and Hermes speed".



This is the beauty of Aphrodite for you?




This is the strength of Hercules for you?


Try again Sam.



@BatmanHeisenberg
I have always considered acting to be when an actor or actress can convince the general audience that he or she is that character.


No One like the Superman vs Batman cast.

Seems to be a post in defense of producers and film Studios.
comicbookmovie have contract with these Studios?
Spidey10 - 2/15/2014, 8:23 AM
Great Article and agree with the idea of waiting to see the finished product before you judge...there no precedent to state otherwise so why bitch and moan
DrunkenNukem - 2/15/2014, 8:26 AM
@DavidMiller ok tell us what actress (not porn star) looks like an amazon, with fighting skills, with a beauty blessed from gods, and runs faster than Usain Bolt
JustThwipIt - 2/15/2014, 8:34 AM
Nice article man! It's very interesting. I've done my thinking about this and came about exactly to what you wrote.
CherryBomb - 2/15/2014, 9:06 AM
Really nice article.
I get very uppity when women are body shamed and shamed about their looks. Gal Gadot would not have been my first choice or even in my top 10 but the comments body shaming her were disgusting and not needed. She auditioned like so many people it wasn't her decision to cast her and the comments about her breast size were ridiculous, WW doesn't need a pair of double D's to be a hero.

Same with Shailene Woodley, she's a beautiful girl and men went crazy when they realised women look different without make up.

DavidMiller - 2/15/2014, 9:14 AM
@BatmanHeisenberg

And yes she is attractive. Just give her a strict, big workout routine(like they are currently doing.....), and it will be fine.


Attractive for Popeye.
I will write again.
Because it seems that you don't know about female physiology.

...fitness work will give Gal Gadot a Beyonce hip?
Chantae McMillan butt and legs?
Bar Refaeli bobs and face?


BatmanHeisenberg , stop writing these things, It's embarrassing.


BatManHeisenberg - 2/15/2014, 9:20 AM
DavidMiller



People can work out, and look good. The did the same with the actress who played Faora, the can do it here. Your argument is invalid. Next argument?
DavidMiller - 2/15/2014, 9:42 AM
@DukeNukem

@DavidMiller ok tell us what actress (not porn star) looks like an amazon, with fighting skills, with a beauty blessed from gods, and runs faster than Usain Bolt








dammit stick lovers!



GizmoEl - 2/15/2014, 9:43 AM
The only reason I would ever doubt gal gadot is for her acting ability. I think she's absolutely beautiful and a perfect look for Wonder Woman. I loved her in the FF series. I think she's in the same position Chris Evans was in, in terms of being in Hollywood but untested. Luckily she doesn't have to lead the movie right away and get used to the character before leading a major blockbuster movie. I hope she's a great Wonder Woman.
DavidMiller - 2/15/2014, 9:49 AM
@BatmanHeisenberg

DavidMiller



People can work out, and look good. The did the same with the actress who played Faora, the can do it here. Your argument is invalid. Next argument?




She's a woman!!

Woman don't get more hips, butt and tits when working out!!

Woman loses hips, butt and tits working out!!


Again, stop writing these things, It's embarrassing.

charlie2094 - 2/15/2014, 9:57 AM
@David

Why the hell does it matter what size her hips, butt and tits are?? Super strength doesn't always equals being huge and Wonder Woman has never been huge, least not in any comics I've read...sure the only reason she's large chested is for comic guys to oogle at, means nothing to the character.

She'll work out a bit and maybe gain a bit, but hardly that big of a deal...she's beautiful and clearly impressed in auditions, can look past her not being the biggest...
xBlaze96x - 2/15/2014, 10:02 AM
@DavidMiller

So because she is a woman, she doesn't have the ability to gain a little bit of mass by working out and going on a diet to help? I don't expect her to have Beyoncé hips, or big boobs. She was obviously chosen for a reason, she has to have something to bring to the role.
DrunkenNukem - 2/15/2014, 10:31 AM
@DavidMiller...you still have not answered my question....

Tell me what actress do you think fills all of those things you describe??

aresww3 - 2/15/2014, 10:33 AM
I think casting does matter. The problem is one alot of the time casting is political rather than based on talent and the actors often don´t have to audition if they´re are a-list and wanted by the studio to carry a big budget movie.
aresww3 - 2/15/2014, 10:36 AM
Also stunt casting works best when the director can manage the talent. Unfortunately Zack is a hard sell sometimes for this. Although so far he´s managed to get great performances from actors for largely terrible movies. However, he usually has chosen really great character actors, where as for Superman Vs. Batman, the actors are not so much character actors as movie stars. I think Gal will do fine, but Ben and Jessie really worry me.
dethpillow - 2/15/2014, 10:38 AM
people have every right to say, tho, that they absolutely hate a casting.

and to say that it's gonna make the movie bad.
there's no way to argue against what someone thinks on that level. if Gal Godot or Shailene Woodley don't look the way a person wants the character to look, then yeah, they shouldn't get bonked on the nose for saying they don't like it.

and also, actors do matter a whole lot. that's something i skipped over earlier but wanted to mention, is that there's one part in your article that you say..."So should acting really matter?" and you answer yourself.. no.

and it's hard to for me to tell what you mean from the stuff you say after. But yeah, acting matters. it matters in how the movie actually is. I think that's such an obvious truth, that i don't think that's what you actually mean. cuz that would just be weird.

and I think what you mean is that does it matter what we think a movie is gonna be like, for the year and a half we talk about it before it comes out. Does it matter if a script is rushed? does it matter if the studio is arguing with the director about final cut? does it matter if the soundtrack guy is fired 5 months before a movie comes out? does it matter if the release date is pushed back?

and in the context of "does it mean the film is gonna necessarily gonna be bad?" like does it matter to us as people who can't see the film yet, cuz it doesn't exist? in that sense, no it doesn't matter at all. none of these things matter. the only that matters is what something is when it's finished. if something is good, it doesn't matter who was cast in it, or what problems happened along the way.

if something is bad, it doesn't matter how good of intentions, or how passionately it was worked on. it doesn't matter cuz it still sucks.

so i'm assuming you mean in this sense.

but all these things do matter in the process of making a movie. if a script is rushed to production, it matters... if the script sucks, or if the director feels ambiguous about it. and actors matter a lot. so i think it's a bad way to phrase what you're trying to say. this is assuming that you actually don't think that actors are interchangeable for the most part.

you gotta define better what the thing is that it doesn't matter to. and then you'll have less conflicted opinions about it in response, cuz people will clearly know what you're talking about.

like if i said, "does it matter how much money a movie makes?" does it matter to what? does it matter to how good a movie is, or does it matter to whether a sequel is made?

and there's something too... cuz u say to one of the commenters who says basically, outside of racist or sexist comments, what's the damage done by talking about castings negatively. and then you responded by saying basically, take another look at Shailene Woodley, that did a lot of damage.

but the person started out saying "Besides possible racist or sexist remarks".

so what you said doesn't make any sense. what damage is actually done by people not agreeing with a casting? and we're starting with the assumption that we've already decided that ugly savaging and criticism isn't ok. so we've tossed that out. but what damage is done by saying, i don't like this casting, it doesn't match what i want the character to be?

i don't think there's anything wrong with saying that.
dethpillow - 2/15/2014, 10:59 AM
And all these little things, like script rewrites, changing the soundtrack guy five months before a movie is out, arguments about final edit, casting decisions, pushed back release dates, juggling of production times, rumors of dischord on the set, actors whining.... all these things don't necessarily mean anything about the quality of the film that results.

everything could be totally a mess about a production, and somehow they pop out this amazing piece of work. maybe sometimes the problems make it what it is. this is more true of records than of movies, but it can happen still.

but all these things are valid factors to form an opinion of what is going on. they totally are. it's like saying ok, a guy just jumped out of that apartment window and it's shattered and he's covered in blood and holding a knife and screaming at himself about " The Overlords" and "Price of Damage" and "So Kill Him!" and he's running down the street like a maniac.

does that mean we know there's a corpse in the apartment? no, not at all, but if someone was gonna make us bet whether something happy just happened in the apartment, well we'd have to bet against that one.

so none of these things matter, but they're totally valid things to point out on websites full of people who talk about movies a year and a half before they come out. that's what happens on websites like that, right? and they can often be, in the hands of an astute and intuitive person, ways to feel if things are going well or not. and things going not well, usually ends up in something worse than a thing that's going well.
dethpillow - 2/15/2014, 11:01 AM
and almost everyone in the world thinks that they are an astute and intuitive person, when it comes to reading situations, becuz they've only been themselves for their whole lives... they've never been anyone else.

so that's what opinions are, you know?
GizmoEl - 2/15/2014, 11:31 AM
My bad, the Gadot comment was meant in reply to Cherry's comment about how Gadot was bodyshamed and scrutinized as Wonder Woman simply because of her chest size. I don't think Gadot has a great look for Wonder Woman. If I had doubts about her it'd be her acting skills. But like I said in my comment, she's pretty much untested. We haven't had a chance for her to shine in a really great role. Her role in the FF series required some but very little depth. I'm looking forward to seeing how she handles the role. I'm hoping she kicks ass and becomes iconic.
DavidMiller - 2/15/2014, 11:36 AM
@BatmanHeisenberg - 2/15/2014, 9:52 AM

Like I previously stated, DavidMiller I don't care about tits or ass.
Yada yada yada


You are alone in universe, mate.


@JDwyler420
@xBlaze96x


Maybe by the grace of Zeus she looks like this in SvB:




I really hate Zack Snyder.

DavidMiller - 2/15/2014, 11:59 AM
@DukeNukem
@DavidMiller...you still have not answered my question....

Tell me what actress do you think fills all of those things you describe??







Jessica Biel
My first choice.
She reminds me Ava Gardner.





Talent and curves, curves, curves and more curves...

Jennifer Lawrence
She looks like WW drawn by Dodson and Jennifer Lawrence is the No. 1 at box office today.


ThunderKat - 2/15/2014, 12:32 PM
Chris Evans and Hemsworth are the best examples of you will never know what/whom you're getting until it's done. Heck, include Downey Jr.

Then you also have glaring errors from the get-go: Nicholas Cage, Nicholas Cage, Affleck's Daredevil, the entire "Superman Returns" cast, and Keanu in anything.
DavidMiller - 2/15/2014, 12:58 PM
@Charlie2094
Why the hell does it matter what size her hips, butt and tits are?? Super strength doesn't always equals being huge and Wonder Woman has never been huge, least not in any comics I've read...sure the only reason she's large chested is for comic guys to oogle at, means nothing to the character.


Because she has the beauty of a Goddess.
This is important to the character, now look at your Avatar, imagine Will Ferrell as Daredevil.
Hard huh?
OptionFour - 2/15/2014, 2:18 PM
@BatmanHeisenberg,

Unfortunately, coming to a site that's meant for the discussion of comicbook movies (largely that ones that are yet unreleased), and asking them not to discuss the cast is-- . . . well, I'm not sure you're in the right place, that's all.
This site is often a place for the airing of perceived grievances, real or imagined, with these yet to be released films. I agree that sometimes the things said here could be expressed in a more tasteful way, or to a greater level of completion, however . . . coming to a site expressly meant for people to express opinions on these matters and asking them to stop expressing an opinion, reads an awful lot like you saying "Stop disliking what I like, because I said so".

Its your opinion, mate. And its as fine as that of anyone else. But no better.
OptionFour - 2/15/2014, 2:22 PM
Annnnd I had told myself not to get involved with this debate, but screw it.

All those saying 'Gal Gadot doesn't need to look strong to have super strength' . . . it just baffles me. Because you sure don't hear anyone saying this kind of thing about male heroes with super strength. Let's say . . . Superman. I remember a lot of comments about Cavill looking great in the suit, and having gotten big for the role as a positive. But now we need a woman with super strength and suddenly its okay for her to be rail thin and skeletal?

I mean, if you like the casting that's your business. But why the apparent double-standard, where we want our male actors to look as close as possible to how they're drawn on the page, but for females it doesn't matter?
BatManHeisenberg - 2/15/2014, 3:21 PM
Hey David, before TDK came out, imagine him as the joker. Or hey, imagine this. They can change what an actor looks like easily. And OptionFour. I was just saying people need to calm the [frick] down sometimes. Also, I, and other commenters, weren't saying we were fine with her skinny, but she doesn't need to be hulk big like she can be potrayed in the comics.
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