Mark Millar On Why He Doesn't Believe The JUSTICE LEAGUE Movie Will Work

20th Century Fox Creative Consultant Mark Millar shares his thoughts on Warner Bros.' Justice League movie and the studio's approach, saying that it would be difficult to make many of the characters work and calls it "an excellent way of losing $200M".

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By Paul Romano - 2/6/2013


Speaking with SciFi Now, Fox's Marvel Creative Consultant Mark Millar shares his thoughts on Warner Bros.' planned Justice League film, which may be released in 2015 alongside The Avengers 2, as well as how difficult it would be to adapt DC characters to live action and how they're "out of date". "I actually think the big problem for them is the characters are just too out of date. The characters were created 75 years ago, even the newest major character was created 68 years ago, so they’re in a really weird time." While he expresses his love for DC growing up, he has his doubts about how the likes of The Flash, Aquaman and Green Lantern could work on the big screen. "Now the stuff I grew up with… I adored the DC stuff growing up but really, how do you do a movie about Green Lantern, his power is that he manifests green plasma from his imagination and uses them as weapons against someone? Even that in itself if you just imagine then watching a fight scene with a guy who’s like a hundred feet away making plasma manifestations fight someone – it’s not exactly raucous, getting up close and personal. The Flash has door handles on the side of his mask and if he doesn’t wear that mask, I’ll be pissed off, you know what I mean? They’re in a weird, weird situation – if you’ve got a guy who moves at the speed of light up against the Weather Wizard and Captain Cold or whatever, then your movie’s over in two seconds.

"You can get away with stuff in comics that in live action’s just a bit sucky – the best one is definitely Aquaman. Aquaman can’t even talk under water. If you think about it in comics it’s fine, you just have a speech balloon, but how do you have Atlantis and people talking under water? Are they gonna talking telepathically? Is it going to be body forms? The actual logistics of each member of the Justice League is disastrous, and you put them all together and I think you get an excellent way of losing $200 million."
What do you think of Millar's comments? Share your thoughts in the comments below.

Justice League is currently searching for a director, with a script by Gangster Squad's Will Beall written. It was recently reported that the DC Comics superhero ensemble won't be moving forward unless Man Of Steel (which hits theaters June 14th) is a big success, making the previously expected 2015 release date more unlikely. The line-up is said to consist of Superman, Batman, Wonder Woman, Green Lantern and The Flash.









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EdgyOutsider - 2/6/2013, 5:39 AM
He makes an excellent point. I've never been a DC reader or a supporter of a film about, The Justice League. That being said, Justice League is all but confirmed to be doomed. Man of Steel has an ass load of things riding on it to be successful. While it looks really good. Zack Snyder isn't a good story teller. He's a good visual but that's it. He needs to be handed a really good script if he is to make a good movie. I'll catch flack for this but, 300 sucked ass. So did Legend of the Guardians and Sucker Punch. That leaves what? Two films in his resume that's good?
Shua - 2/6/2013, 5:45 AM
I disagree. His point about Flash and Aquaman are valid, with his super speed Flash should be able to stop anything... ever... without trying. And the talking underwater thing is actually an interesting problem. Aquaman's New 52 comic has me believing that he could be in an awesome movie.

That being said, I think the DC characters have tremendous potential and a well made Justice League movie would make me extremely happy.
DTor91 - 2/6/2013, 5:47 AM
I like Mark Millar, but his point is asinine. Marvel pulled off Thor and Cap, and a lot these Marvel characters have been around for close to the same amount of time. If they can make Hawkeye work, Flash for DC shouldn't be a problem. Hell, in terms of Millar, if a character like Kick-Ass could work, with a suit as ridiculous as that and people bought into it, Flash could work.
Squish - 2/6/2013, 5:48 AM
ROFL ON DC
RPD - 2/6/2013, 5:49 AM
I don't disagree but, having said that, if and when they do make a Justice League movie I'm gonna see the shit out of it...
nuclearpriest - 2/6/2013, 5:51 AM
Not to mention the fact that, if Superman is anything like he is in the comics, he doesn't really need any of the other members of the justice League. He's raced The Flash several times so I assume he's almost as fast as he is, he can breathe underwater and in outer space so you don't need Aquaman or Matian manhunter. he's kicked the crap out of Green Lantern and he doesn't need an invisible plane to fly. I suppose if you need cranky commentary there's Batman for that but Superman certainly doesn't need him in a fight. So what is the purpose of a Justice League in a world with Superman?
MrReese - 2/6/2013, 5:51 AM
Bullshit! they can make it work.
FennecPilot - 2/6/2013, 5:52 AM
From a film making standpoint, and a screenwriting perspective, Millar is right. JLA is a tough nut to crack. It is not impossible, but the risks far outweigh the benefits at this point.

The reality is that until DC successfully brings more than Batman, successfully, to the screen in solo films, the JLA is doomed to be a campy, ill-advised way to lose lots of money.
MrReese - 2/6/2013, 5:53 AM
Tower of Babel & Darkseid is y u need JL. XD
Matchow - 2/6/2013, 5:53 AM
Yeah, this sounds more like a rival exec trying to poo poo any ambitions going into JL more than anything. It's too bad. I hope they crank out JL to the best of their ability. I'm l
Not really into the new 52 but I believe in these characters and I think they will work in a cinematic way much the same as any comic book character. Captain America is dated. But you update him and he's awesome. There you go.
DCjohnny - 2/6/2013, 5:54 AM
@ jcameron .... lol totally agree with you...


HeadPool420 - 2/6/2013, 5:54 AM
This article makes no sense. Captain America came out a year or two after Superman and Batman. Of course a Marvel employee is gonna bash something DC wants to do. The same way DC employees used to bash Marvel back in the 90's for making crappy movies then. Same story just sides have changed.
DCjohnny - 2/6/2013, 5:56 AM
screw you mark miller...
Jolt17 - 2/6/2013, 5:56 AM
Fair points, but there isn't only just one way to approach these characters, which indeed are dated. The Flash, in my opinion, has always been the most difficult one of them all, since not only his power may be pretty tricky to adapt story-wise (and his origin, which is...well, not exactly "friendly" in this context), but it will also provide the makers with visual challenge. Any form of super-speed in a live-action medium that I've ever seen, so far, were just executed with limited TV budgets, and bringing it into a high-budget big screen adaptation is not an easy thing.

However, again, there are many other ways to approach these characters, especially with today's ever growing innovations. The same applies to Aquaman's Atlantean logical problem, too, while I don't think his stance on the Green Lantern is that valid, because that's just how it's always been portrayed in the comics, and it still can work well.

Oh, and I think 300, Watchmen, Dawn of the Dead, and Legends of the Guardians: Owls of Ga'Hoole were all great...is that a matter of subjectivity? Well yes, it is! It shouldn't be brought any further into this discussion, and I remain optimistic about Man of Steel. End of.
ShadowOfTheWeb - 2/6/2013, 5:57 AM
I totally agree. It will be incredibly hard to pull off Justice League and to do it well. That being said, if Warners would bother to take the Marvel approach and invest in character, story development, inspired casting and talented directors, then they might be on to something.

But i'm not holding my breath. so far Warners inspire zero confidence for me. Zero. Their history for prioritising lunchbox sales over story integrity stinks. I really hope I am wrong - I'm a DC kid through and through.
CavEl - 2/6/2013, 5:57 AM
I agree with him about the Justice League movie, but not DC heroes.

Flash's "doorknobs" are not different from Captain America's wings. Green Lantern is lame, especially Hal Jordan, but a director with great imagination can make it work. Aquaman? Simple, Atlanteans have gills. Thor is like, the lamest character of all, and Marvel got away with it. Rainbow bridges, Shakesperian English...this helmet?



DC needs to take the Nolan approach. Yes, their characters are older and more idealistic, but inject some seriousness and pseudo-realism into them and they work. Batman is older than Flash, Wonder Woman, Aquaman and Green Lantern, but Frank Miller modernized the character in 1986 and Batman has been allowed to evolve since. Wonder Woman under Azzerello is fantastic because he modernized the character. DC tried to modernize Superman with the new 52, but they need a Mark Waid to take over and write fantastic tales. DC's characters are fine, they just need to be brought into the 21st century.

The only problem with a Justice League movie is the fact that Will "Gangster Squad" Beal wrote the script and it is sure to suck! WB needs to cast a different Superman because they're going to [frick] up Goyer and Snyder's hard work.
fortycals - 2/6/2013, 5:58 AM
I like Miller's work, but he is a douche for this.
DCjohnny - 2/6/2013, 5:58 AM
at least DC movies were better than those movie produced by FOX
CavEl - 2/6/2013, 5:58 AM
Hal Jordan sucks...and so does his butt buddy Gusto.
ShadowOfTheWeb - 2/6/2013, 5:59 AM
As much as Millar shoots his mouth off, he was instrumental in revitalising the Marvel U (The Ultimates) which was a massive inspiration for the cinematic Marvel U. He has a pretty valid point. The characters need to be relatable before watching them on screen becomes interesting
CavEl - 2/6/2013, 6:00 AM
I fully support a Justice League movie...as long as Henry Cavill isn't the Superman.
DCjohnny - 2/6/2013, 6:00 AM
@ teabag ... that GIF is hilarious ..
ToTheManInTheColdSweat - 2/6/2013, 6:01 AM
why the [frick] do you guys keep listening to this scottish hack. this is the same mother[frick]er that said
- jim caviezel would play superman.
- eminem begged him to play in wanted.
- orson welles wrote a batman movie.

if you believe him then i have a bridge in tumbuktu to sell you.
Jolt17 - 2/6/2013, 6:01 AM
If anything, DC characters do need a lot more care if the makers want to adapt them correctly to the big screen, because as "unfilmable" the characters of Marvel are, DC's are still a lot more difficult. I love both Marvel and DC, but that's simply an inevitable fact. That being said, I'd rather see this movie later than its 2015 expected released; much more time is needed to execute this properly, at the very least.
Nas - 2/6/2013, 6:05 AM
This guy sounds bitter.Look at the movies Marvel has made
Elektra,Daredevil,Fantastic Four 1&2,Spiderman 3.THe first two movies mentioned have to be the among the worst CBM's ever made.
starkresilient - 2/6/2013, 6:05 AM
he is right in movie making progress. the things make sense in comics sometimes doesn't translate well on big screen
Mysterion - 2/6/2013, 6:07 AM
as much as I cant stand that douche nozzle Millar....I have to agree with him...I cant see a live action JLA movie work either, now if they go with an all out Pixar type animated movie, then that will blow minds.
ArtisticErotic - 2/6/2013, 6:07 AM
Mark Millar is a dumbass that's for sure.

But he's right a Justice League movie won't work. But not for the reason's he listed, because it's being rushed out a JL can work under the right hands.
Ancar - 2/6/2013, 6:08 AM
JUSTA TALK ABOUT THE MARVEL PROJECTS ON FOX, YOU BASTARD MOTHER[frick]ER!!!
randomality85 - 2/6/2013, 6:09 AM
Seriously? Sound travels through water. This is about as asinine as saying how will Thanos and his minions talk while in space... oh wait they already did that. It really is simple as just talking...

Aquaman in a Game of Thrones type underwater setting would be the best. Aquaman is basically Thor in the water. Come on! Evil Half Brother (Orm and Loki) that try to dethrone the hero to ascend the throne? If Thor can be made into a movie, then so can Aquaman.

As for Flash, yeah, everything could be done in 2 minutes, however the fun would be to stretch that 2 minutes relative to him. That way, everything else is in slow motion and he reacts accordingly. Flash is fast but not the best tactician. A super prepared villain that can predict the next movement based on Flash's patterns can be a great foil, like almost forcing Flash into situations where he's fast but not careful and it leads him into a trap.
niknik - 2/6/2013, 6:09 AM
Narrow minded, short sighted, and a bit on the rediculously biased side. DC characters are no more or less "outdated" than the Marvel characters that have had successful film outings. That notion is just preposterous and doesnt deserve any sort of effort to debate.

The key is in successfully establishing them on screen individually first before bringing them together in a feature. With Batman, Superman, and Green lantern established, they just need a vehicle for Wonder Woman and the Flash that has adjoining plotlines that bring them all together and they have the foundation laid for a successful JL film. Get a top notch writer and director and it can be done just as Marvel pulled it off.

Absolutely retarded to say that one publishers characters are too outdated to do what the other publisher equally dated characters have already accomplished.



........and since when did the movie going audience only consist of 20 something year olds??? Most fans over 30 don't feel any of these characters are outdated and there are plenty of them going to movies. In fact that demographic have more disposable entertainment dollars to spend.
CavEl - 2/6/2013, 6:09 AM
Mind you, no one questions if this was filmable...



Also, add to the irony that the modern day GL and Flash were both created in the late 50s, early 60s...like Iron Man, Thor, Hulk and all of Stan Lee's other creations...
starkresilient - 2/6/2013, 6:09 AM
why can't people don't understand that making a bad movie =/= hard to translate?

yes daredevil and elektra were trash but not because they were hard to adapt or outdated as he says. people need to learn how to read first.
SpideyQuad - 2/6/2013, 6:11 AM
LOL this is got to be the funniest post of the day. Just reading all you arse-hurt DC fan boys pis- moan is hysterical!

DCJohnny you get the baby cry award of the day and JCameron is the runner-up!

Your hankies will be in the mail!

I hope you guys can come around and start enjoying the Marvel films because that's all you're going to get WB CBM's are collapsing on themselves. You have Superman, and Batman in about five years and nothing else. I really feel bad for you guys, well not really not after last spring. It's that karma merry-go-round. Enjoy the ride boys
buzzman - 2/6/2013, 6:11 AM
I think it goes beyond weather Flash has door handles on his head - it's more about making the characters work together - DC and Warner Bros. wants to rush the whole JL thing when they should be smart and build up to it with stand alone movies, introducing characters, maybe weaving in a side story to add a little drama - and to think about what they're doing before they do it. It looks like the Man of Steel is going to be the best DC movie aside from TDK trilogy and that's just not going to cut it for a JL movie in 2015. I agree a little with Millar but think, if done right, a JL movie is possible.
starkresilient - 2/6/2013, 6:11 AM
@PatriotsSuperguy

because there is nothing extreme to translate hawkeye to big screen? so why should people question it?
CavEl - 2/6/2013, 6:11 AM
Like, I literarily challenge someone to find me a worst suit in the original 7 of the JL than that abomination...

Go ahead, I'll wait.
CavEl - 2/6/2013, 6:13 AM
@ starkresilient - I'm talking about that turrible suit, jesus, that's hideous.

starkresilient - 2/6/2013, 6:15 AM
lol it's a just a suit. he also wear a black one and they go with it. it's not relevant to what mark miller say
CavEl - 2/6/2013, 6:17 AM
And again, I love it...

Flash's "doorknobs" make no sense, but Flash's suit is a red Captain America suit...






Gotta love Marvel trolls, when Marvel does it it's innovative and cool. When DC does it, it's straying from the source material, dated and lame. -_-...

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