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TelaVizion
TelaVizion - 8/11/2013, 10:25 AM
So is WWZ worth seeing? I've only heard negative reviews from ppl I know, yet the ticket sales keep rising
thewonderer
thewonderer - 8/11/2013, 10:31 AM
The third act of WWZ is one of the best sequences this year in a film imo. Worth seeing for that alone. The other two acts are meh. It's a decent film. I haven't seen Elysium yet but that will probably be better.

As for Wolverine, [frick] yeah
SimonM7
SimonM7 - 8/11/2013, 10:33 AM
Or better yet, have no "boss fights" in a The Wolverine 2. The Wolverine was at its best when you didn't have hulking CG monsters stomping around -- it was at its best when it felt like an introspective mutant Bourne.

I hope a sequel has the confidence to skip cartoony shenanigans altogether, because unlike a lot of properties movie studios have tried to turn into brooding, navel gazing dramas, Wolverine actually has the emotional depth and intensity to support such transformation.

Leave the mutant-paloozas to the main line of X-Men movies and X-Force, which Wolverine is likely to star in anyway, and have The Wolverine be a more sober affair with meaningful character interactions and an increased focus on emotional pay-offs.

Or don't, I guess. It's not like they need to listen to me. :D
GUNSMITH
GUNSMITH - 8/11/2013, 10:36 AM
jcfrommars9
jcfrommars9 - 8/11/2013, 10:37 AM
Good for both movies.
GUNSMITH
GUNSMITH - 8/11/2013, 10:38 AM
YEARS OF ASKING HIM TO WEAR THE SUIT HE'S NEVER GONNA WEAR THE SUIT...SINGER CURSED HIM WITH THE "WHY HIDE?" THING....HOW MANY DANG X FILMS AND 2 WOLVERINE MOVIES LATER...STILL NO SUIT.
whoa123
whoa123 - 8/11/2013, 10:40 AM
WWZ was f*cking awesome
ekrolo2
ekrolo2 - 8/11/2013, 10:40 AM
Never put the yellow Wolverine costume in the movies... Ever, X-Force costume if you really need a costume from the comics or just do your own thing.
kadetra
kadetra - 8/11/2013, 10:40 AM
The wolverine is my favourite CBM this year.I don't think wolverine needs another solo movie.
thewonderer
thewonderer - 8/11/2013, 10:41 AM
For the love of god, it's confirmed Wolverine will have a version of the suit in DOFP. Does no one keep up with this?

There was that picture. Then Hugh said at the comic-con panel: "I wore the suit while roaming the halls and got two comments "Too Tall" and "Not Bad""

Obviously, if it wasn't a comic accurate suit, no one would even think it'd be Wolverine.
wcwpoet
wcwpoet - 8/11/2013, 10:41 AM
Really happy for World War Z. If you had told me before the summer that World War Z would stand as my favorite from the Summer of 2013 I would called you an Certifiable madman. But lo and behold after another disappointment with Elysium, World War Z stands as my favorite. Pacific Rim was close, but I'll be honest I only love that more so from the nostalgia because it definitely has it's warts.
JoJo1982
JoJo1982 - 8/11/2013, 10:43 AM
This for all the people that said Wolverine was a big flop it's opening weekend!!! Lmao

It should reach its budget($120 mil.) by next weekend(domestically though)

I smell a sequel soon, hopefully they bring Omega Red as the villain

ekrolo2
ekrolo2 - 8/11/2013, 10:45 AM
@MrSundayNight

No yellow suit, if I had a screaming lunatic with claws in a huge yellow and blue suit on the big screen I would laugh my ass off, it would look just as bad as Captain America in Avengers and Green Goblin in Spider-Man 1. He would look like a freaking Power Ranger like the two guys I mentioned before looked like Power Rangers.

Either X-Force suit, the Ultimate suit or MAYBE the new one from Inhumanity but tone down the yellow parts. Those are the only suits I would be fine with. The classic costume must never be put in a big film, ever.
SimonM7
SimonM7 - 8/11/2013, 10:53 AM
@TheWolverineAllRight

After all these years I think comic book movies still have trouble shaking the "villain plot" trope. I remember seeing The Dark Knight, and the friend I went with complained afterwards that there was no "fight" between the Joker and Batman. There *totally* is a fight between Joker and Batman, it just isn't about punching things.

And I think that's a real issue these movies are dealing with. I think a lot of people watch the entire thing and only really latch on to the surface level narrative. Ergo; the final battle has to be a visible, physical FINAL BATTLE.

It's odd that The Wolverine manages to be so reserved for so long, and then doesn't commit to that at the end. People who found it boring won't be jolted back to life by a stomping chrome robot at the end - coming out from the theater cheering.

I WILL SAY, though, despite what was playing out on screen, that the movie was still thematically somewhat on the ball through that final battle. I think the sentiment Yashida utters, about an eternal life being the only one that can have meaning, highlights their different philosophies - and one of the themes of the movie - pretty beautifully. His cheating death ties back to his inability/unwillingness to kill himself in the opening of the movie. His empire is contrasted against Logan's idea of "wealth" and purpose. It's just too bad that's set against CG wrestling, and not delivered in a more poignant way.
SimonM7
SimonM7 - 8/11/2013, 10:55 AM
@kadetra

"The wolverine is my favourite CBM this year.I don't think wolverine needs another solo movie."

I actually agree with this as well. I woulnd't mind one, but it's a very satisfying standalone story that sets out to say stuff and gets it said.
ekrolo2
ekrolo2 - 8/11/2013, 10:56 AM
@SimonM7

Thats exactly my problem with a lot of comic book movies of the past few years, the set themselves up for these great character driven movies where the action should be side lined and the focus should be on character development instead, but theres a certain structure to CBMs and they all must go with it no matter how detrimental it is to the film overall (All the Iron Man movies, Thor,...)
THEDARKKNIGHT1939
THEDARKKNIGHT1939 - 8/11/2013, 10:58 AM
"It is an honor to see the Wolverine"
thetrojan
thetrojan - 8/11/2013, 11:01 AM
both of these movie were pish!

seriously .
AsgardianHobo
AsgardianHobo - 8/11/2013, 11:20 AM
Saw Wolverine twice. Good movie.

manro
manro - 8/11/2013, 11:21 AM
LOL...I remember when a lot of folks here were saying WWZ is gonna flop without even seeing the movie and those SAME folks who didn't see Man of Steel yet said would be the greatest CBM ever and that it would make 2 billion. See this is what happens when you HYPE the $hit out of a movie or $hit on a movie you have NOT seen yet. You just look like a BIG A-HOLE because ya talking diarrhea.

Hey A-Holes just wait until you SEE the movie before you come to a conclusion.
TheWolverine08
TheWolverine08 - 8/11/2013, 11:26 AM
@AsgardianHobo LMAO!
SimonM7
SimonM7 - 8/11/2013, 11:31 AM
@ekrolo2

Yeah, it's unfortunate. I'll admit I've developed an ability to just sort of view that final stretch as a bone thrown to the parts of the audience that don't invest as much in the emotional side. I'd even go so far as to say it doesn't really play into my assessment of some of them, unless they do a particularly good job.

I like Batman Begins more than most, and I suspect it's because I pretty much switch into ho-hum filter mode after the mansion burns down. I mean there are still good bits that I extract, but I'm pretty much done at that point. The fascinating construction of Batman is complete, and now we're cuing crazy gas villain plot flown in from Batman 1988.

To me, the most you can usually hope for is that it's either brief and painless, or that it at least somewhat ties into the overall arc of the movie. I think the Destroyer part of Thor is an incredibly heavy handed way to show Thor's "growth" as a character - minding other people's lives instead of diving into a fight - but at least it makes a half-hearted attempt to infuse that boring sequence with a semblance of meaning. It's visually drab, communicating little but the disinterest from the movie maker in such a scene, but it's a beat in Thor's journey at the very least.

The return to Asgard and confrontation with Loki makes a lot more sense, and here I think the movie rights its ship. Overall I think it's one of the better displays of a final conflict having been properly established throughout, and there's a sense of inevitability to it that is refreshing.

I don't want to get crucified, but I also thought Iron Man 3 handled the final conflict pretty commendably.

But yeah, the out-of-nowhere Jeff Bridges fight in 1, the pouring on of CG robots in 2, the here's a montage of Cap fighting various things so we can skip to a final battle out of nowhere-tastic third act of Captain America, the and now Tim Roth turns into a monster just in time for a final "here's where the budget went" wanton destruction of Harlem of The Incredible Hulk.

It's certainly rarely elegant.
ekrolo2
ekrolo2 - 8/11/2013, 11:37 AM
@SimonM7

I agree with you on the ending of Batman Begins even though I still really like it, I always felt like Ras should have come back for the third movie as the bad guy and just leave Scarecrow as the villain of BB but they had no clue how people would respond to BB because Batman had been dead in film for close to a decade at that point so they felt they had to tie everything up at the end.

Yea I like the final conflict between Loki and Thor but the rest of the movie was complete garbage, the unbearable romance coupled with the most rushed character arc in the history of the universe and some exceptionally asinine character choice killed any and all enjoyment of Thor for me, it being a quasi precursor to the LETS MAKE EVERY CBM A COMEDY STARRING A SUPERHERO
mentality that Disney employed with IM3 also annoys me.

I cant really comment on Captain America because thats easily one of the most boring and uninteresting movies Ive ever seen, Captain America DOES NOT NEED A MOTHER [frick]ING ORIGIN MOVIE!!! HE GOT DIPPED INTO A SERUM THAT MADE HIM A BADASS!!! THATS ALL YOU NEED!!! NOT SPEND AN HOUR OF THE [frick]ING MOVIE SETTING THAT SHUT UP THEN WASTING ANOTHER WITH THE IDIOTIC PROPAGANDA CAP BS/End rant.
marvel72
marvel72 - 8/11/2013, 11:37 AM
well deserved,the wolverine was the best comic book movie of 2013,thus far.
JoJo1982
JoJo1982 - 8/11/2013, 12:00 PM
Yeah this is my 2nd fave movie of the yr too. Man of Steel is number 1 favorite though
AsgardianHobo
AsgardianHobo - 8/11/2013, 12:08 PM
Can't wait to see what the unrated version looks like. Hope they step it up with the blood.


tonytony
tonytony - 8/11/2013, 12:10 PM
good to see wolverine doing well I loved that movie. not a fan of the snore fest that was wwz. turning into another great year for cbms. loved MOS also loved wolverine, now cant wait for Thor the dark world too.
JettJagguarrr
JettJagguarrr - 8/11/2013, 12:12 PM
I must admit as much as I hate FOX.....The Wolverine was a good movie. And I thought World War Z was another winner for sure. If you like movies for pure entertainment instead of taking sides due to the name of the studio or the comic book? These were both 2 damn good movies....Period.
Brainiac13
Brainiac13 - 8/11/2013, 12:23 PM
Happy for Wolverine!

ekrolo2
ekrolo2 - 8/11/2013, 12:24 PM
@kevberg

When the hell did I ever compare it to World War Z? I was responding to Simons mention of Captain America not compare it to World War Z, how about YOU read my posts right before calling me a dumbass over something I didn't do.

Plus get a [frick]ing clue about people having different opinions than you, I thought First Avengers was boring as piss, you liked it, we don't agree, end of story.
supermarioworldE
supermarioworldE - 8/11/2013, 12:28 PM
Such a bummer summer for movies. Haven't seen the Wolverine, it looks so by-the-numbers. And World War Z was like a half-assed Roland Emmerich film or something.

I can only hope next year is an improvement.
DEATHWIZARD
DEATHWIZARD - 8/11/2013, 12:42 PM
People a funny. The Wolverine was negatively viewed as boring or had a bad ending because of a CgI robot. Movies like Pacific rim Rim are ether viewed as bad because it is cgi robots or viewed positively because it is not boring. Ironic.
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