Jon Favreau Wants The Mandarin for the Main Villain in Iron Man 3

This is why he would be no good for The Avengers. As good as he has been with the IM movies he just has no clue when it comes to anything but tech based powers. None.

Either way, I'll see it.

@teabag: Ha! I don't think I've ever seen that version of the Mandarin, but even as a little kid I used to wonder why the great and powerful Galactus had a "G" on his chest.



@teabag: I agree. There was enough armor to go around in IM2.

i knew eventually that the mandarin was going to be used

brent@ lol man

tea@ good point, something a little different from the same old would keep things fresh :)

GUNSMITH @ Yeah, he'd be killer for the role!

iron man 3 might get a bit repetative if he battles yet another armored villian. Introducing the Mandarin in an Alien or supernatural way is the way to go, then you can squeeze a sequal or trilogy w/ that story alone.
fing fang foom.

Didn't they end up retconing the origin of Mandarin's rings and saying they were artifacts form a crashed alien space ship - and that they were tech-based in origin?

Hi @ Gunsmith :-)Definitely agree with the idea of Cary Tagawa playing the Mandarin (its got my vote anyway;-)

If they go with the view of "allowing" magic into the Iron-Man's film reality then it COULD turn out a really good story of Technology vs Magic :-D .

If they can ultimatly accept Thor being introduced and all the mystic elements that go with it, then they really will have opened the door for anything to translate successfully to film from Marvel.

And that would mean no more lazy "Galactus should be a big cloud" not a big alien-planet-eating-humonoid translations to film.

Either way, I'll be excited (I loved Iron man 2) :-D :-D

"If they created the earth then they are not from it... Alien simply means "u aint from here". Dont look at it as lil green martians...

Most of these different Gods comes from somewhere other then Earth which makes then "aliens""

No it doesn't, when people say aliens in a sci-fi movie that tends to mean extra-terrestrial...Thor isn't an Alien, he's a God.

looks good well done :)

Can a film with the Mandarin really be done in just a couple of hours? It just seems like there's too much there to be squeezed into 90-120 minutes. Maybe a 3 hour Iron Man 3 is needed!!!

@Multi
about that vibranium comment......
maybe it's because vibranium can retconned in the MCU that it is so EXPENSIVE to create that all of the governments in the world do not see the point of trying to manufacture it while another country has a hundred lifetimes supply of it.
and then there is the fact that Tony created it from a hint that his father couldn't crack. and the fact that Stark wouldn't give this information or the How To Guide for vibranium to the government pretty much makes it unmakeable by any man.
food for thought.
btw Midgard in Norse mythology is said to have been formed from the flesh and blood of Ymir who in Marvel continuity is a Frost Giant which is a completley separate race of beings from the "Gods." or Aesir.
so it is highly plausible to call the Aesir "aliens" seeing as how they did not create Earth.
i mean we call any foreigner an alien. even if they have more power than us. why not an Asgardian?

how about ken watanabe for the mandarin.
also i wouldn't mind seeing any of the following villains.
1.the mandarin
2.the living laser
3.the collector
4.a.i.m
5.hydra
6.the ghost
7.blizzard
8.whirlwind
9.the armour wars story

@TELAVISION: "and they can pull off sum sort of supernatural in Human Torch's movie"

--------- hehehe, man, give Evans a shot! lol! i know, i see him STILL as Human Torch.. (on a side note, it is kind of stupid that Marvel Studios want to make the movies as REAL as possible...and they an actor whom IN THE REAL LIFE played ANOTHER Marvel Character.. weel anyway)

@WADEY:"in the MCU that it is so EXPENSIVE to create that all of the governments in the world do not see the point of trying to manufacture it while another country has a hundred lifetimes supply of it."..

-----------I think Wakanda comes to mind! I mean, it may sound too AVATAR, but if someone like The Red Skull or something, would invade Wakanda for their Vibranium supplies..enter the Avengers (yeah, too Ultimate Avengers 2 dvd, i know)

I'd LOVE to see the Mandarin show up in the third Iron Man film. The rings don't have to be "tech". Alien technology or supernatural elements at work (creating that "tech v. magic" thing some have brought up here) do a fine job of explaining how the rings work. Tell it right and the audience will accept that. You have to have a certain amount of suspension of disbelief to believe that Stark can cram all the tech into his armor that he does, what's a little more to show ten powerful rings at work?

SirJediFrank- "I think Wakanda comes to mind! I mean, it may sound too AVATAR, but if someone like The Red Skull or something, would invade Wakanda for their Vibranium supplies..enter the Avengers (yeah, too Ultimate Avengers 2 dvd, i know)"

Actually, it's not too "Avatar" or "UA2". Its a brilliant storyline that was averagely executed but could be improved upon should they choose to do it right. And i think Favreau's the man for the job hands down! Its just highly logical to use and solves many problems IMO.

And as for Cap, you don't need Zemo. It could all be done through Red Skull. Sure its a liberty, but i really don't give a shit for that detail.

yeah, like Multi said, this is first time i've heard Favs say something wrong. Mandarin's wrings are taken froma crashed alien shipe. his rings ARE tech-based...

also, i REALLY hope they don't make that middle eastern guy from the first one the Mandarin. Favs mentioned that a while back, and i really hope he doesn't do that.

Hey Everyone!!!
Here's some food for thought.....What if the Mandarin were the main baddie in the Avengers movie. I mean, I know he isn't an Avengers villain, per se, however, he DOES have the power to warrant a team up of earth's mightiest heroes to put him down. And, factor in the notion that Iron Man WAS the leader of the Avengers originally (if recollection serves) and that he's the first "hero" that is approached by Nick Fury in the film universe, hence he could feasibly be the leader, or at least the field leader, of the Avengers. That would make the Mandarin a more sensible choice for the villain choice.
As for the whole "magic" thing, those who have accurately pointed out that the rings are alien tech have basically rendered the whole "magic-not-fitting-in" issue moot. They could sell it as magic, where the people of the countries that are under his thumb BELIEVE that he is magic. But that could quickly and easily be explained away. Simple, yet effective, solution.

Here's my very rough outline of a suitable storyline for Mandarin and his long awaited appearance:

He's presented as a conquering dictator (origins unknown) who has the potential to threaten worldwide stability on the same level as Hitler. (A great selling point to bring in Cap. Hint, hint.) The Avengers are finally assembled for the first time in order to prevent World War Three from coming to fruition. Iron Man is deemed field leader, and inevitably is the one who seems ultimately responsible for bringing about the Mandarin's defeat. This leads into a more personal vendetta that brings him squarely into Iron Man 3 as the main villain, where his origins can be explored a bit further.

I don't know. It's just an idea. Let me know what you think.

Peace everyone. I'm out for now.