The Timeline of The Avengers Lead Up Films

CookiePussProduction outlines the road to The Avengers!

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By cookiepussproduction - 12/19/2009

It is pretty obvious to everyone now that "The Avengers" is being turned into a film adaption and before that happens the members of the team are getting films based on them to set them up for "The Avengers."

As im sure everyone is aware of as well, is that the lead up films are "Iron Man", "The Incredible Hulk", "Iron Man 2", "Thor", and "The First Avenger: Captain America".

Now, a big topic of conversation is sometimes what exact order they all are in before "The Avengers" takes place. Not the order of release of the films, but the chronological order of the stories leading up to "The Avengers." Here's what I think:

1. The First Avenger: Captain America - Obviously Cap's big screen adaption would happen first since the story takes place in 1942 and we all know that the others dont come until much later. The only thing from the Cap film that will take place right before "The Avengers" is the ending.

2. Iron Man - This would be the obvious next chapter considering Nick Fury creates "The Avenger Initiative" in this.

3. Iron Man 2 - Iron Man 2 takes place only 6 months after the first film, and we all know The Incredible Hulk does not happen before or after the two Iron Man films.

4. Thor - Thor would seem to make most sense to happen right after Iron Man 2, just generally because it just does.

5. The Incredible Hulk - Because Tony Stark apparently says no to "The Avenger Initiative" in Iron Man 2, but is all the sudden forming it in The Incredible Hulk definantly gives away the fact that Hulk MUST take place after Iron Man 2, and it has been stated that the ending of The Incredible Hulk with Bruce Banner meditating into The Hulk, is meant to lead right into The Avengers. Some even say it may be revealed that Loki is controlling him in that scene which would make it seem like The Incredible Hulk is, in fact, the final lead up film.

6. The Avengers!

What do you guys think?
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flames809 - 12/19/2009, 9:38 PM
it make sense but loki controlling hulk before a thor movie dont think that one is good
DCMarvelFreshman - 12/19/2009, 9:52 PM
Have to disagree. Thor is cast down to earth after the events of The Incredible Hulk. Because each Avenger has a reference in The Incredible Hulk, except Thor.

DCMarvelFreshman - 12/19/2009, 9:54 PM
I may be wrong, if in the Thor film, he isn't publicly known but, I doubt it.
jok3rsc0usin - 12/19/2009, 10:12 PM
on a side note that pic up top is awesome, imagine the three of them standing like that, in those same suits in a film!!!
caltraz - 12/19/2009, 11:21 PM
I absolutely love this site-- long time lurker, this is my first post.

I have no idea how accurate this is.

But I recently sent the following to a friend when we were discussing the whole Avengers time line. If you see any "holes" in this I'm all ears.

Maybe they don't even have this too planned out?

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There was a brief shot of Captain America frozen in the ice in the deleted scenes of TIH, but I don't know if they are going to make that "official" or not. Was kind of a lame gimmick, especially since we saw Cap's shield in Tony Stark's workshop in Iron Man. Of course, see #2 below which might explain that. Since Bruce could have tried the suicide that caused that scene and then Stark Industries found Cap's frozen body and gave Stark the shield to work on.

My guess?

1. Thor takes place first (since Samuel says, "You think you're the only superhero...?", that implies there are others already found and recruited by SHIELD).

2. Then the opening flashback scenes of TIH (which takes place 5 years before the rest of the movie -- and you see Stark mentioned on the weapons and and Nick Fury mentioned in the memos in the opening?)

3. Then the events of Iron Man

4. Iron Man 2

5. Maybe Iron Man 3

The rest of TIH takes place after either IM 1 or IM 2 (Stark tells Ross they are putting a team together, and, as far as we know so far, Stark has not been recruited yet as of the end of IM1 or before IM2).

6. Then Captain America (present day)

7. Then Avengers

I am also guessing Loki will be the main villain in Avengers (since he was the villain who got them together in the comics) by manipulating the Hulk to cause mass damage and thereby assembling the Avengers to deal with the menace.

Also, Abomination will be in it, too, I think.

I say this since Tim Roth signed up for 3 more Marvel films. Even if he's in TIH 2 (assuming there is a TIH2) that still leaves an opening for two movies. One of which will likely be Avengers (my guess) and either TIH 3 (assuming there is one) or Thor.

He may even make an appearance in IM3 (although somehow I doubt that).

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That's my best guess.

Cal
leik777 - 12/20/2009, 1:15 AM
Well Freshman,i have to disagree, since there is a small reference of Thor in the Incredible Hulk. Its one of the thing i love from Louis Letterier, he likes to put as many little easter eggs as he can. In the scene where hulk is in a cave on the rain, and throws a rock at the sky screaming, if you freeze the screen and play it frame by frame, you can see Thor's Hammer falling down with the lighting on the corner of the screen. Its very small and very very quick, but it is there (look online, you'll find it faster).
This can mean Thor's banishmnt to the mortal world, happening at the smae time as the incredible hulk...which makes sense, if you conside the ambiguos ending was a month or so more after the fight with the abomination (more than enough time for the Thor movie to take place). So im inclined to agree that Banner's evil smile at the end could be Loki's taking control.
As for the shield in the deleted "suicide" scene of Cap...well im inclined to agree that Stark's is either a new model, or they simply got confused and used the new version of the costume and shield, instead of the early one he wore on WWII. Then again, maybe there's a reason why the scene got deleted in the first place. Either way, i do believe the Incredible Hulk was intended as the last on of the bunch before Aengers.
Rsquared - 12/20/2009, 5:38 AM
the shield scene never got deleted its in the movie when he's taking off or putting on his armor i can't remember which one but it's right there in the movie not deleted scene and the hammer thing is way up for debit cause he never said anything referencing thor in the hulk movie...yes cap, but no thor that all rumor
StrangerX - 12/20/2009, 6:40 AM
Does this have to do with my comment from yesterday about the Tony showing up in TIH. Anyway It's a great topic. IMO think that it will be in this order

Thor's story would make better sense to begin the Marvel timeline. Basically because they are Gods, and being eternal have been around forever. As far as the Avenger's go Thor will probably enter last. If Hulk is in the movie his presence like Stan Lee intended will either be to take the Hulk down or something that has come along much stronger.

Captain America would be the next story for the marvel timeline. It is becaue of the Arian race thing that got people into eugenics, and Hitler wanting to create something of a Thor like nordic man. The good ol'USA thanks to Jack Kirby and Joe Simon came up with the Legend Captain America to counter attack the Nazi's with their own weapon. Cap will most likely be the reason Stark will enter the Avenger's, and bring the Team together, after SHEILD trying to recruit the Hulk but fail.


As far as recent movies go I believe it is

Iron Man I
I believe Nick Fury's cameo, and there being other heroes statement, was to show that he is aware of Captain America's presence and notices Tony's potential to start something bigger.

Iron Man 2

Nick Fury is still trying to scout Tony for his Super Secret Boy band so he probably needs Tony's tech in order to find Captain America.

The Incredible Hulk

Here we see what happens when Ross tries to create his own version of the Super soldier project and it all goes wrong with the abomination. We see some little tidbits of proof the Cap was the first and only successful subject. Tony's cameo comes into play when after the events of Iron Man 2 Fury has him convinced that the world does need more from him, and decides to offer his help with the Avengers. Probably involving his tech to take bring in the Hulk or try to get him on the team. The Hulk will be the guy to root for in the Avengers movie. He's the guy that everyone takes for granted with his scienctific abilities, and will be the main person you don't want to piss off.
LEEE777 - 12/20/2009, 6:47 AM
UHHH???

THOR's gonna be set wayyyy even before CAPTAIN AMERICA, hopefully his first time on Earth is in the VIKING days when Gods were GODS!!!

Only makes sense! ; D
LEEE777 - 12/20/2009, 6:48 AM
Oh im sorry, i didn't read the top properly, this ain't official, just FAN FIC???

Should be:

1) MIGHTY THOR

2) CAPTAIN AMERICA: FIRST AVENGER
(WWII stuff anyway)

3) IRON MAN

4) INCREDIBLE HULK

5) IRON MAN 2
(Though i wish it was set after AVENGERS because of WARMACHINE but it ain't).

6) AVENGERS

7) ANT-MAN
StrangerX - 12/20/2009, 6:52 AM
Yea leee I said that already
LEEE777 - 12/20/2009, 6:55 AM
STRANGE said what lol?
LEEE777 - 12/20/2009, 6:57 AM
OKay no probs, just read ya comment dude!!

Cookies been eating too many cookies lol!
greenlanternsector2814 - 12/20/2009, 7:04 AM
Where did you get that awesom pic of the holy trinity of Avengers
jazzman - 12/20/2009, 7:17 AM
@leik777

you are wrong there was no Hammer in Incredible Hulk. but the movie had some debate about the the weather change with the storm in the movie some people think its a reference to Thor but it seems like its not anyway.

filmschoolrejects.com even had an article saying "Fanboys Now Seeing ‘Thor’ Clouds in The Incredible Hulk"



heres the article: http://www.filmschoolrejects.com/news/fanboys-now-seeing-thor-clouds-in-the-incredible-hulk.php
LEEE777 - 12/20/2009, 7:29 AM
GreenLanternSector2814 @ He got it off google images dude!!
LEEE777 - 12/20/2009, 7:32 AM
LEIK777 @ WTF with the name dude!!!?

Thought JAZZ was talking to me lol! : D
Hawksblueyes - 12/20/2009, 7:39 AM
I don't care what the timeline is between these movies. I want to know what is the matter with the damn timeline involved with the Captain America casting announcement.
CorndogBurglar - 12/20/2009, 7:45 AM
i agree with your timeline except for one thing...i think the captain america movie should end with steve being frozen in ice. they can do some dramatic camera work showing him in a block of ice, with some kind of sad music playing as the screen fades out and the credits roll.

i just think it would work better if they kept the cap movie ENTIRELY during WWII. then i think they should find him in the avengers.
CorndogBurglar - 12/20/2009, 7:47 AM
@ hawksblueyes

i don't think there is anything wrong with the casting time for cap. they said we would hear casting news for it in january.
StephenStrange - 12/20/2009, 7:49 AM
lol @ Hawksblueyes... yeah! Me too damnit!
flames809 - 12/20/2009, 7:49 AM
jazz- that is thor cloud if you look a lil closer
BrutalDuke - 12/20/2009, 8:00 AM
@Cal you mentioned the scene where Fury tells Stark he isnt the only hero. well by the picture that was posted yesterday of BlackWidow i would say he was refering to her possibly. also welcome to cbm.com
jazzman - 12/20/2009, 8:12 AM
@LEEE777

whats not talking to you but it seems that LEIK777 wants to be the famous LEEE777 LOL.

@flames809

i see what it looks like but there is no solid info that it was ment to be Thor cloud it could be just a cloud too.
jallanr - 12/20/2009, 8:12 AM
about tony having caps shield, that has already been explained. I cant remember if favreau said it, or if it was in the comic book based on the movie, but somewhere i heard that tonys dad helped create the shield, and the one tony has was an early prototype. Tony uses this prototype to help create the material of his own suit.

woo hoo!
Hawksblueyes - 12/20/2009, 8:13 AM
CDB: Where did you hear that? I haven't.

Darth: LMAO AAARGGGHH!!!!! They could throw us a frickin bone, don't ya think?
GUNSMITH - 12/20/2009, 8:35 AM
DUDE I JUST WANNA SEE THE AVENGERS MOVIE MADE.
LEEE777 - 12/20/2009, 8:38 AM
JAZZ @



Hey dude, luv ya LOBO AVATAR by the way, [frick]ing awesome pic!!

LOBO my fav DC character of all time, well him an GG lol!

If you don't have the first LOBO mini series by Keith Griffen & Alan Grant, you should get them or the trade, [frick]ing great stuff!!

; D
StrangerX - 12/20/2009, 8:45 AM
The timeline is very important. That way on the day all these movies get made. I can sit down and watch them all in a row with my comics. Eat a big ass bowl of Cocoa Krispies and then come on here to write you guys a full review of the greatest series to hit the movie screen.
1chris2 - 12/20/2009, 8:50 AM
well thats pretty cool. but i think the leader will be the one controlling the hulk and not loki. but im not saying loki will not be pulling strings.and i would like to see ultron fight ironman why doent jarvis download himself into a suit and thats ultrons origins?anyways i hope to see a hulk sequel or at least see him and leader in the avengers film and abomination. since there are a number of heros going to be in the avengers film they should do a all out battle with each ones villains. like ultron,loki,leader,abomination,red skull,or even baron zemo,and others.i cant wait to see what they do.
jazzman - 12/20/2009, 8:50 AM
@LEEE777

Lobo is great. i dont have Lobo mini series by Keith Griffen & Alan Grant i need to get that.

@jallanr

i dont know where you got that info but it was not explained why the shield was in Iron Man. it was just there as a easter egg.

ClintEastwood - 12/20/2009, 8:53 AM
IRON MAN, IRON MAN, DOES WHATEVER AN IRON CAN!
StrangerX - 12/20/2009, 8:58 AM
@brazilianbatman IDK about Thors movie being fully before the Hulk in fact I think his story can take place in a lot of timelines, and might eventually lead up to the Avengers with Loki
StephenStrange - 12/20/2009, 9:26 AM
LOL @ Hawlsblue.... SOMETHING! ANYTHING! ACK!
DogsOfWar - 12/20/2009, 9:33 AM
@Caltraz-Welcome aboard!

This is the 2nd time CookiePussProductions has taken someone's comment from another thread and turned it into a full blown article.

You sir, are going to make a fine journalist some day
GUNSMITH - 12/20/2009, 10:23 AM
EASTER EGGLETS...


DELETED SCENE IN INCREDIBLE HULK...


StrangerX - 12/20/2009, 11:05 AM
The Thor movies gonna set all this straight you'll see
mativ16 - 12/20/2009, 11:17 AM
I thought everything was fine, but "just generally because it just does" was the reason for the Thor movie. That's the reason our parents gave you when we were like what 12? I thought you needed to explain this part way better then that.
Hawksblueyes - 12/20/2009, 11:18 AM
I just read a very interesting article on newsarama. They were talking about Marvels direction for all their movies. They mentioned that there would be some sort of reference to, or appearance of Thor in the new Iron Man movie. I don't have time, or I would do an article here on it, but if anyone wants to read it or post an article here, this is where you can find it. http://www.newsarama.com/film/091216-avengers-reassembled-5-hollywood.html



rkeyes - 12/20/2009, 11:50 AM
I dont understand this post
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