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inky
inky - 7/12/2012, 12:23 PM
be honest its going to be tougn to beat Godzilla final wars, and that mathew broderick movie was realy bad to be fair.
Godzilla deserves something special and well made.
heres hoping.
kaijunexus
kaijunexus - 7/12/2012, 12:24 PM
As a massive Godzilla fan (The Big G remains my primary nerd passion above all else), I say to you...

PREACH IT BROTHA!
Oxbow
Oxbow - 7/12/2012, 12:25 PM
Pacific Rim is the first/best chance we'll get to have giant kaiju done right in front of an international audience....when I look at del toro's other creature creations, it gives me hope that it will be awesome, and change the paradigm around these kinds of movies. If that kind of shift happens, I don't think it would be too long before we get a godzilla movie done right
RaleighAntrobus
RaleighAntrobus - 7/12/2012, 12:31 PM
No film is ever necessary, so... no.
GUNSMITH
GUNSMITH - 7/12/2012, 12:34 PM
THAT GODZILLA FILM WITH BODERICK WAS SO BAD EVEN THE GUYS IN TOYO GAVE STINK FACE
superotherside
superotherside - 7/12/2012, 12:35 PM
Actually read this on your blog bro. Have been meaning to tell you what a great write up it is. So great write up! :)

Seriously need to get into Godzilla more. Trying to get to know Marvel ATM, but I'm still keeping a look out to snatch all the Godzilla stuff I can find. :)
JorLBola
JorLBola - 7/12/2012, 12:42 PM
Because is a giant monster that destroys everything!!!
the end :P
marantaz
marantaz - 7/12/2012, 12:47 PM
Necessary? Necessary for who? The merchandisers? That's what I got out of this. Hardly a reason. And Godzilla had heroic adventures? He's the monster of monsters, he's a giant lizard that kills people and destroys buildings... he's the monster, the people who stand united against him are the heroic ones. If Godzilla is the hero, then he's a mutated dinosaur/lizard superhero, not a monster.

I like me a Godzilla movie as much as the next guy, but gimme a break. No giant lizard can stand up to the military weaponry humans have now. One A-10 Warthog could decapitate Godzilla with a few well placed rounds. That's why Transformers, Gundam Wing, etc. replaced Godzilla.
Destroyer14
Destroyer14 - 7/12/2012, 1:05 PM
@marantaz To highlight: A new Godzilla film is necessary so that everyone here could see him more than just an old cheesy Japanese hero that flies using his atomic breath.

Godzilla isn't just a 'giant lizard.' You have him confused with a Tyrannosaurus Rex.
ralfinader
ralfinader - 7/12/2012, 1:23 PM
I have been a big fan of Godzilla back when there used to be only antennea TV and Saturday morning Creature Features. He was a destroyer that would become a defender if someone else messed with his stuff (his stuff being Tokyo or wherever he was at on Monster Isle at the time). I had high hopes for that Mattzilla movie when the three fishing boats snagged him. But after that, it was Jurassic Park 3.5.
MarkCassidy
MarkCassidy - 7/12/2012, 1:32 PM
Destroyer, ok so you're saying he's "more than just an old cheesy Japanese hero that flies using his atomic breath."...so, what more? You don't explain what else he is you just say he isn't that!
valmic
valmic - 7/12/2012, 2:22 PM
This was more of a fan boy rant than actually explaining why the world needs Godzilla. I used to watch as a kid and sure they were fun to watch, but like power rangers they were all the same. I dont see a reason why we need a godzilla now. And I dont think anyone has ever looked at him and thought he was a hero. He kills people! He kills other monsters! Who is he a hero to? That Broderick movie was stupid, but when you really think about it, it was the cast and story that sucked. Godzilla himself was exactly what he is, a giant lizard. He did exactly what he did in older movies, he destroyed shit and killed people.
Destroyer14
Destroyer14 - 7/12/2012, 2:30 PM
@Ror That's a whole 'nother editorial. In short, Godzilla is an allegory of what happens when we tamper with nuclear weapons. That is what he stands for. The general public seems not to know that. Godzilla is an unrelenting force, like a storm. You can't stop it, you just have to survive it and wait for it to pass.
Destroyer14
Destroyer14 - 7/12/2012, 2:36 PM
@micvalpro You then don't understand what Godzilla is if you think the American 'Zilla' and him are similar. That monster was something that the military could beat, it was just a pest, an overgrown pest, that was dealt with. Godzilla isn't a pest, they just have to watch him go through, hoping he doesn't destroy everything.

Anyone who has not seen Gojira really should check it out.
Spidey1996
Spidey1996 - 7/12/2012, 2:45 PM
Great article. :)
I have high hopes for the new Godzilla movie.
MadJakHatesSpinoffs
MadJakHatesSpinoffs - 7/12/2012, 2:57 PM
I heard a rumor that the new Godzilla was set to destroy San Fransisco this time. He was also supposed to fight another monster, I'm thinking Anguirus for some reason. Legendary Pictures (Underworld, The Town) was rumored to produce it. That's about all I know.
LOL
LOL - 7/12/2012, 3:13 PM


just sayin'...
bbarber2323
bbarber2323 - 7/12/2012, 4:35 PM
@Ror...we get it. Ur the best writer ever. Understood.
CoolantTech
CoolantTech - 7/12/2012, 4:42 PM
Loved the 98 movie when it came out, but I was like 20 plus the only other giant monster flicks we had was the jurassic park movies. They [frick]ed up Godzilla 'the character' because thats what Godzilla is 'a Character', and they treated him like a giant mindless dinosaur/animal not an intellegent problem solving creature.

Plus he was underpowered
Durf
Durf - 7/12/2012, 5:07 PM
As a lifelong Godzilla fan, I endorse this article. Nice write up bro
GhostZillaRider
GhostZillaRider - 7/12/2012, 6:03 PM
I, also, am a lifelong Godzilla fan, and am quite excited about the potential to view a new Godzilla film, especially after Final Wars was touted as THE FINAL GODZILLA FILM, EVER!

Decent write up, brother, but some other contributers have valid points about the lack of a solid reason WHY the world needs another Godzilla film. Allow me to add to your article a bit; Godzilla is, for all of you who are not intimitely familiar with him, a true force of nature. Nothing, not even modern technology (Marantaz, this is for you,) can kill him. He is nigh unstoppable, and the reason for this is because he was brought about in his current from by a nuclear bomb, the one thing that we, with all of our technology, have not figured out how to counter. Godzilla is like a tsunami, or a hurricane; When it hits, and it hits hard, it brings people together and reveals their humanity. In the face of mother nature's wrath, we are all, in the end, just human, regardless of where we're from. Disaster brings us together and reminds us that we're all in this together.

Now, the world may not NEED another Godzilla film, but if the filmmakers did it right, they could send Big-G on a worldwide rampage, destroying all sorts of well known locations, and bring together an elite strikeforce made up of people from all nations, illustrating 2 things: the first being that no one is safe from the forces of nature, and the second being that, in the face of disaster, (potentially species exterminating,) humans can come together as one people united against a common threat. The world may not need a film, but could definitely use more of the mindset.

And even though the original theme of not mucking around with nuclear weapons is almost outdated, it still doesn't hurt to revisit that particular topic, especially given all of the media attention that the middle east has been receiving in recent years due to their potential nuclear capabilites.

Whether the filmmakers make it serious or cheesy, it'll still be fun to see him on the big screen again, although this particular Godzilla fan's wish is that it is taken seriously. No more Deanzilla.

And, for those of you who don't think that Godzilla was ever considered a "hero", go watch any Godzilla film from "Ghidorah , the Three Headed Monster", to "Terror of Mecha-Godzilla". The former actually has Mothra, in her/his larval form, "talking" to Godzilla and Rodan, convincing them to put aside their differences to fight against Ghidorah to save the world. Since then, and up until the latter of the aforementioned films, he was portrayed, in one form or another, as a hero and savior. The Japanese people looked to him to defend them when a foreign (or extraterrestrial) threat reared it's head. It's kooky, and cheezy, but it's the real deal.

It's a lot, but that's all I have to say.

Peace out, ya'll.
BassMan
BassMan - 7/12/2012, 6:58 PM
@ ghostzillarider & destroyer14, the only people in here that truly know what godzilla symbolized. kudos :) life long fan, owned every vhs until 96 or so. unfortunately lost all of them, would love to see an authentic remake or reboot in the spirit of the originals or after 84. that was the good stuff :)
ThatOneDude
ThatOneDude - 7/12/2012, 7:11 PM
If it wasn't for Godzilla, I wouldn't even be on this site. Godzilla has been a huge part of my life since I was 2 years old.

I really hope that they just don't make this some dumbass action film that has no meaning behind because that would just show how badly the real reasoning behind the Big G.
monstermaniac
monstermaniac - 7/12/2012, 7:13 PM
As a lifelong Godzilla fan , preach the [frick] on man. I can't wait.
JazzBebopHero
JazzBebopHero - 7/12/2012, 7:46 PM
I'm really looking forward to a new Godzilla film. I own all of the films (except for G 98 which doesn't count as a G film).
I've been a life long fan. I'm 31 years old now. I've never been able to share my passion for Godzilla with anyone except for my dad. But he's too busy in life to really have a G-marathon. I agree with the author of this editorial. It's time for Godzilla to be reintroduced to a new generation. This way he will get the respect that he deserves.
ralfinader
ralfinader - 7/12/2012, 7:54 PM
@ghostzillarider - Well put. Best way I have heard Godzilla described in a long time.
WarnerBrother
WarnerBrother - 7/13/2012, 12:52 AM
@GhostZillaRider

Great comments,you really get it that Godzilla is in your words "A force of nature."

I would add that he is the Earths reaction to the arrogance of mankind.

As a kid of the 70's,I grew up on a steady diet of TOHO films on T.V. and I'm sure you would agree they were a big deal in America up until Star Wars changed the game.

Every kid in class would talk about the Godzilla movie that played that weekend.

Sure Godzilla was a superhero in the 70's but there was still an aura of menace about him due to his nuclear origins and the ongoing Cold War of the time.

Up until 1977,the biggest genre fare that appealed to kids was Godzilla,Planet of
the Apes and Star Trek. All franchises that had strong messages against nuclear weapons and tackled subjects like the environment (in Godzilla's case) racism (POTA) and the threat of man's technology out pacing his wisdom.(All the above)

In effect,Godzilla could be seen as punishment against Japan for her aggression during World War 2 and a warning to post war America that theres always someone bigger to come along if you push your weight around too much.

Point is,after Star Wars came out, the genre industry turned backwards to values of honor,duty and comradery. All great values, but they fail a franchise like Godzilla if the warning against hubris is removed.

Sure this "cautionary story" approach is still a big part of Sci- Fi films, but the point is, Sci-Fi is no longer the primary form of escapist entertainment.

Fantasy,in the form of the superhero film and fantasy epics, is.
loki668
loki668 - 7/13/2012, 3:04 AM
You had me at Godzilla.......

Lord Loki has spoken
comicb00kguy
comicb00kguy - 7/13/2012, 6:34 AM
I thought that a new Godzilla movie was being produced presently. I know I've seen articles detailing the monsters that will appear and the mindset of the director (He's a big fan of the character and it sounds like he wants to do it right).

A new Godzilla film may not be 'necessary', but if it's aimed mainstream enough, maybe it will undo some of the damage of the 1998 cinematic abortion. And hell, they're remaking everything else. Why not?
comicb00kguy
comicb00kguy - 7/13/2012, 6:39 AM
blkyank: As another kid of the '70s, I really enjoyed your post here and totally agree with your points. We also got monster movies every Sunday morning. Great fun!
plasticman
plasticman - 7/13/2012, 6:47 AM
The only thing that has held Godzilla back in the US and other parts of the world is the production levels. When we finally had a chance to see the Big G done in Hollywood all we got was a giant turd with scales and limbs that stunk of fire, fish, and sexual confusion. I am a proud fan of Godzilla and would love to share that pride with more people.
Who amongst you have endured a no sleep permitted, Godzilla back to back marathon including every single one of his movies? I think that speaks to devotion (and maybe insanity.)
GhostZillaRider
GhostZillaRider - 7/13/2012, 6:58 AM
@blkynk- Your points are solid, and disappointingly missing from my own personal rant. You filled in the missing pieces of my diatribe, just as I was attempting to do for the guy who posted this article, and I am grateful. It seems that the number of comments from people who genuinely don't understand Godzilla have ceased, hopefully due to the insight that we, as fans, have brought to the table.

Sadly, I was born in 1977 and, as such, was saturated with Star Wars from an early age. I didn't get to talk with the other kids at school about the latest monster movie because none of them had seen it, and they were all too wrapped up in the Star Wars phenomenon to really care. I, however, did watch those monster movie marathons as a kid, and even though I was a Star Wars junkie myself, I also developed a parallel appreciation for the greatest radioactive dinosaur ever imagined.

VIVA GODZILLA!!!!
SoulReaver
SoulReaver - 7/13/2012, 10:47 AM
I believe that these are some of the most passionate comments I have ever read on CBM.
zillaman60
zillaman60 - 8/8/2012, 8:25 PM
@ghostzillarider. you naild it. that's what many people don't understand about what and who is GODZILLA'. let's not forget about Godzilla vs. Smog Monster and how symbolic that movie was, if there was ever a doubt that Godzilla movies have no meaning or messeges. an Enemy rises from the results of nuclear weapons,a monster called "Gojira" with the bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki, and the Daigo [frick]uryu Mauru incident still fresh in the Japanese consciousness, Godzilla was conceved as a monster a metaphor for nuclear weapons in general. As the film series expanded, some stories took on less serious undertones portraying Godzilla as a hero, while other plots still portrayed him as destructive monster; sometimes the lesser of two threats who plays the defender by default but is still a danger to humanity, and because Godzilla is born from nuclear weapons it's why the need to increase weapons like laser tanks, and MECHAGODZILLA, armed with flight, flamethrower, optic cannons,Missile Claws, Electric Beam, Forcefield, Mega Buster, Plasma Granade Launcher, Maser Ray, Absolute Zero Cannon, Lightning Wrist Blade, Air Speed Mach 5, Height: 100-<9000 meters, weight: 40,000-150,482 tons. and this is just the older 70's 80's, MECHAGODZILLA,..it takes alot to take on Gojira..
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