Joss Whedon On The CAPTAIN AMERICA / IRON MAN Scene That Was Cut From THE AVENGERS

Joss Whedon discusses a scene that was ultimately pulled from the final edit of The Avengers which focused on the relationship between Steve Rogers, Tony Stark and his father, Howard Stark.

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By Mark Julian - 4/26/2012


QUESTION: As for CAPTAIN AMERICA, that film, with Stark’s father and his admiration for Steve Rogers… there’s an interesting potential for conflict there with Tony and Howard Stark’s hero worship of Cap. Was there ever anything more about that resentment?

Joss Whedon: There was a ton more. One of the problems we had early on was that I had way more Iron Man, and at some point I realized “This is turning into IRON MAN 3. That’s a mistake for them, that’s a mistake for me, and it’s putting too much responsibility on Robert’s shoulders. He needs to be the rock star who shows up and says ‘Oh, let me handle this, because I’m a rock star.’” That felt very right. But I had written endless scads of pages of him and Steve Rogers arguing, and a lot of it was about [Howard Stark]. Not so much, because his daddy issues had been the thing in the second movie, but enough because of that relationship. Actually the only time Chris and Robert were in the Quinjet, I had a little run about the father, and on the day they were like “We’re not so comfortable with this.” I went “Okay, let’s pull it,” so there’s really just the one comment. But I feel like you don’t necessarily need to say it. It’s there. I mean, Chris is such a father figure as Steve Rogers - even though he’s young and maybe just by virtue of the fact that he is a beautiful fuddy-duddy. Their relationship I think resonates without having to call it back too much. And when he says “And every time I would think ‘You know, your father would never say that’”, I wanted Tony to say “My Dominic Cooper father or my John Slattery father? Because they were very different guys.”

Interesting. Maybe that scene ends up on the Director's Cut Blu-Ray/DVD Combo Pack? The relationship between Cap and Tony Stark's father was an angle I was looking forward to seeing in The Avengers but it looks like that was scaled back a bit. I guess coming together for the first time, it's probably unrealistic that the two would discuss something so personal so maybe that's something that can be explored in future films as the two characters develop their friendship.

There's much more in the interview over at AICN, so be sure to click the source link below.




The Avengers is an upcoming American superhero film produced by Marvel Studios and distributed by Walt Disney Pictures, based on the Marvel Comics superhero team of the same name. It is the sixth installment in the Marvel Cinematic Universe. The film is written and directed by Joss Whedon and features an ensemble cast, which includes Robert Downey, Jr., Chris Evans, Mark Ruffalo, Chris Hemsworth, Scarlett Johansson, Jeremy Renner and Samuel L. Jackson. In The Avengers, Nick Fury, director of the peacekeeping organization S.H.I.E.L.D., recruits Iron Man, Hulk, Thor, and Captain America to save the world from destruction.

Development of The Avengers began when Marvel Studios received a grant from Merrill Lynch in April 2005. After the success of the film Iron Man in May 2008, Marvel announced that The Avengers would be released in July 2011. With the signing of Scarlett Johansson in March 2009, the film was pushed back for a 2012 release. Whedon was brought on board in April 2010 and rewrote the screenplay that was originally written by Zak Penn. Production began in April 2011 in Albuquerque, New Mexico, before moving to Cleveland, Ohio in August 2011 and New York City in September 2011. The film was converted to 3D in post-production.

The Avengers is scheduled for release on May 4, 2012 in the United States in 2D and 3D.









Running Time: 2 hrs 22 minutes
Release Date: May 4 2012 (USA)
MPAA Rating: PG 13 for for intense sequences of action and violence, some disturbing images, and language
Starring: Robert Downey Jr., Chris Evans, Chris Hemsworth, Samuel L. Jackson, Tom Hiddleston, Cobie Smulders, Jeremy Renner, Clark Gregg, Stellan Skarsgård, Mark Ruffalo, Amanda Righetti, Scarlett Johansson and Lou Ferrigno The Incredible Hulk (voice) .
Directed by: Joss Whedon
Written by: Zak Penn (initial screenplay), Joss Whedon (revised screenplay)



Source: AICN
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BlueMex - 4/26/2012, 7:42 AM
lucky for you guys^^ :( i have to wait till may 4th.... and its bearly here 7:43 AM in the morning here in california,usa
Gilby1989 - 4/26/2012, 7:48 AM
I'm seeing it in 5 hours :)
I know the dark knight rises trailer is supposed to be attatched to the movie is this in the UK also or just USA?
Deadpoolican - 4/26/2012, 7:49 AM
Same bluemex :/
jj2112 - 4/26/2012, 7:55 AM
It opens tomorrow in Spain... I can say that the expectation here is huge.
MisterJay - 4/26/2012, 7:55 AM
im watching it tonight!
Feedback - 4/26/2012, 7:59 AM
I'm in Cali too :(
And their not selling the IMAX tickets yet :(
TheAmazingSpiderMan47 - 4/26/2012, 8:00 AM
man ... you guys are so lucky, imma fly over watch the movie, and fly home ... anyone have a few grand to spare for my plane/movie ticket? dont worry popcorn is one me :P
Xeriath - 4/26/2012, 8:04 AM
@Gambit89 I feel your pain, but hang in there! Only ONE week away!
valeriesghost - 4/26/2012, 8:05 AM
Joss has said that there won't be a directors cut, but there will be 30 minutes of deleted scenes.
blackarrow123 - 4/26/2012, 8:07 AM
I saw it yesterday.
My mind is still blown.
Its' that good.
Kayo - 4/26/2012, 8:07 AM
6 DAYS TO GO
GingerBird - 4/26/2012, 8:12 AM
July 20 is so far away!
BRandom - 4/26/2012, 8:16 AM
I can't [frick]ing wait!!! There have been two bad reviews so far, and both twats just say they didn't like it....Some ppl don't like sex, Ice Cream, sex, great movies or sex....So I can't hate on them for being stupid.
MarvelousMarty - 4/26/2012, 8:17 AM
2 hours to go
Greengo - 4/26/2012, 8:21 AM
F'n foreigners.

I hate you.

Not really : )
BlazinTexan - 4/26/2012, 8:23 AM
i hate them gringo they are watching this bad ass mofo as we speak!!!!!
Greengo - 4/26/2012, 8:24 AM
I am seriously offended I have to wait till next week.

SuperAdaptoid - 4/26/2012, 8:25 AM
im in Japan and we dont get the movie until, i think, August.

So bite me. lol
MarvelousMarty - 4/26/2012, 8:27 AM
1 Hour, 50 minutes to go!
6guerin - 4/26/2012, 8:27 AM
helloo everybody, i saw it yesterday in Imax 3d in france.
the movie is amazing ( not as good as the dark knight but great in a different way). robert downey jr is great in it. the action sequences are blowminding. have a great time
starwalker1977 - 4/26/2012, 8:27 AM
Just back from the avengers..omg Words cannot explain how good this movie is.
Greengo - 4/26/2012, 8:28 AM


Greengo - 4/26/2012, 8:30 AM
I can't BELIEVE pussies kangaroos and santa get to see this shit before AMERICA.
hoodedjester - 4/26/2012, 8:41 AM
Friday please come faster
MattyPlant - 4/26/2012, 8:51 AM
I have just come back from this, and quite simply words cannot describe how awesome this film is.

Cap is the leader and role model you expect him to be.

Thor is a brute of a man, with lightning bolts, what more can you say.

Iron Man is as outstanding as his previous outings, but to the power of 10.

Black Widow, brilliant.

Hawkeye was a complete suprise, well impressed with him, for one moment do not think he is like that terrible Green Arrow sham off smallville.

And the best for last Hulk, ultimate destruction, pure rage, it moistened me lol

The film will not dissappoint, i have always loved DC, for its ability to be possible, and darker tones, Marvel has my heart with the big boys like Hulk, Thor etc, but this film was just non stop!

Humour, script, cgi. acting was all 9 out of 10, would even stretch to 10 to be fair.

The first Heli carrier scene deserves a mention, for the scale of it.

This film will not dissappoint, and stick around for the end credits, a certain one gloved being on a throne makes an appearance!

You just simply have to see it to believe it!
SebHope - 4/26/2012, 8:51 AM
Saw rhe film this morning and i need to see it again, But not because i loved it because im not sure how i felt about the film. Its deffinatly good but im not sure i Felt let down because of my own overhype or because it actually wasnt the amazing film its being made out to be...i think its the former.

I think ill love it more second time round when im not overthinking things, the hulk is amazing, theirs a little to much iron man even though hes on top form, didnt quite feel the heart of thor or capa solo efforts, but the actions amazing the films speeds like a frait train,

Main problem i found with the film is the chitauri, i was one who didnt care if they were undetailed creatures to be knocked about by the avengers but honestly, their leader who appears at the begining is just awfully cheesy a little like one of the vampires from buffy which is understandable but he made the film a little laughable. Also the lack of explanation around what happens with the chitauri is also a let down. The whole film is a weird mix of fun, funny, cheesy and at times dark and it didnt feel like a mix that entirely worked for me. It also ends to quickly. But as i said a second viewing could change my mind, except the chitauri leader hes just to poorly done,
Greengo - 4/26/2012, 8:54 AM
"SON, I AM DISAPPOINT"


MattyPlant - 4/26/2012, 8:57 AM
Proper mad Greengo lol, why a week later thats stupid lol

Its like they want you to download it
render - 4/26/2012, 9:00 AM
Just back from it, and WoW, But...... Didnt get any TDKR trailer :(
BlueMex - 4/26/2012, 9:05 AM
so i guess us US peeps get it with toppings of TDKR and Amazing Spiderman Trailer!
SebHope - 4/26/2012, 9:11 AM
No tdkr or amazing spiderman trailers attached to the movies in the uk apparently, it wasnt on my screening or several of my firneds around the country, and my friend who works at the cinema says theirs no copys of either trailers in yet.....so USA youve got one thing over us....But weve Seen the Avengers! Oh btw the 3D is actually good in the avengers but honestly it was a distraction, id go 2D....but if you want it to have a huge opening in the U.S. go 3D to give them extra money!
BRandom - 4/26/2012, 9:11 AM
Let's all drop in on @tea and go see this movie early!
SuperSomething616 - 4/26/2012, 9:18 AM
4 hours to go till i see this...it's almost too much to bare!!!!
IDKwhatToChoose - 4/26/2012, 9:28 AM
@greengo LMAO ROFL
PsyGuy - 4/26/2012, 9:30 AM
I'm so hoping all of this makes it into the director's cut
thetrojan - 4/26/2012, 9:46 AM
twenty-four hours from now i will be sitting in big comfy chair for this and I am really lookin forward to it.

dont look at the bootlegs ,just be patient.......

sorry.
gannicus - 4/26/2012, 10:09 AM
iam seeing it tomorrow night looks like us brits get the movie before the yanks but the yanks get the new trailers to make it up to them hmmm o well bring it got my tickets cant wait.
FoxForce5 - 4/26/2012, 10:19 AM
You guys do realize that it seems this particular scene was never shot. Jose said that on the day they were going to shoot the actors were uncomfortable with it so he pulled it then. I'm sure they'll be plenty of extra scenes on the Blu-Ray/DVD but from the sound of it, not this one.
HughJasol - 4/26/2012, 10:38 AM
That's the only thing that's better for us 'Mericans. We get TDKR and TASM with our Avengers. And I'm watching this in 2D. Hate 3D.
Vital - 4/26/2012, 11:07 AM
@Greengo, that map picture is dead on. Pretty funny.
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