JUSTICE LEAGUE On ARROW? Producers Appear To Be Taking A Softer Stance

"We're imagining a DC universe without super-powered characters but that doesn't mean that in our parallel universe that there isn't a Metropolis or a Gotham City." --Executive Producer Marc Guggenheim

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By Mark Julian - 10/17/2012


Just yesterday, I brought news about the appearance of Batman villain Firefly at the tail-end of the first season of Arrow and today, we're talking about Batman himself....as well as Superman and Wonder Woman. Before the pilot episode of Arrow aired, the producing team behind Arrow; Greg Berlanti, Guggenheim, and Andrew Kriesberg were pretty adamant about Superman, Batman, Wonder Woman and other fantastical DC characters not appearing on the show. Well, as we begin to 'dip our toes' into the first season of Arrow, it looks as if they make be taking a softer stance on DC's Trinity in perhaps a trend that could continue to unfold as the season progresses? Below, we're already getting acknowledgement of a larger Arrow universe that contains some staples and locales familiar to fans of DC's preeminent superhero trio.



"We're open to anything and everything; I'm not entirely sure you'll be seeing characters like Superman, Batman, Green Lantern and Wonder Woman because they're much more fantastical and right now we're focusing on Oliver Queen as being the only hero. That being said, we're looking forward to bringing on other DC Comics characters and characters that people have never really seen before or lesser-known characters. That's what's been fun for us; Superman will always get his due." --- Andrew Kreisberg

"We've got a lot of different characters and then there are characters you may not recognize unless you're a diehard comic book fans. One of the things we've done, mainly because we're fans, is we've thrown in a lot of Easter eggs for the hardcore fans. If you're a big fan of the DC Comics universe, you'll see a lot of familiar names and places: Big Belly Burger, which is a hamburger chain from the Superman comic books makes a regular appearance on our show and we have a Big Belly Burger franchise as one of our standing sets. You'll still hear about characters from those worlds and from [Gotham and Metropolis]. We're imagining a DC universe without super-powered characters but that doesn't mean that in our parallel universe that there isn't a Metropolis or a Gotham City. There are references to places like Corto Maltese (a wartorn island) and Markovia. I would listen and watch carefully if you're a comic book fan because some of the references are really subtle and will go past a lot of people." ---Marc Guggenheim

"When we bring characters from the DC universe into the show, we're careful about doing it right and having a reason to and not just doing it to say because we can bring in a specific character. As time goes on, hopefully we'll do some of the biggies." ---Greg Berlanti


"I want to see General Zod, or at the very least Terrence Stamp in some way shape or form. People have speculated that maybe Hal Jordan would show up in Starling City before he gets the ring. There are a ton of people that we could see." --- Stephen Amell

SYNOPSIS: After a violent shipwreck, billionaire playboy Oliver Queen was missing and presumed dead for five years before being discovered alive on a remote island in the Pacific. When he returns home to Starling City, his devoted mother Moira, much-beloved sister Thea, and best friend Tommy welcome him home, but they sense Oliver has been changed by his ordeal on the island. While Oliver hides the truth about the man he's become, he desperately wants to make amends for the actions he took as the boy he was. Most particularly, he seeks reconciliation with his former girlfriend, Laurel Lance. As Oliver reconnects with those closest to him, he secretly creates the persona of Arrow - a vigilante to right the wrongs of his family, fight the ills of society, and restore Starling City to its former glory. By day, Oliver plays the role of a wealthy, carefree and careless philanderer he used to be - flanked by his devoted chauffeur/bodyguard, John Diggle - while carefully concealing the secret identity he turns to under cover of darkness. However, Laurel's father, Detective Quentin Lance, is determined to arrest the vigilante operating in his city. Meanwhile, Oliver's own mother, Moira, knows much more about the deadly shipwreck than she has let on and is more ruthless than he could ever imagine.



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Running Time: 60 min
Release Date: October 10, 2012
MPAA Rating: Unknown
Starring: Katie Cassidy, Stephen Amell and Willa Holland
Directed by: David Nutter
Written by: Greg Berlanti (story/writer), Marc Guggenheim (story/writer), Andrew Kreisberg (writer), George Papp (character) and Mort Weisinger (character)

Source: THR
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superotherside - 10/17/2012, 10:42 AM
Really cool. I'd like this, will continue watching this show.
TayDee - 10/17/2012, 10:43 AM
Yeah, the show should try to get past a few seasons first for this to even be considered.
SuperDude001 - 10/17/2012, 10:45 AM
Haven't watched this yet due to so many mixed reviews, although from this I'm more worried it's just turning into Smallville :/
PsyGuy - 10/17/2012, 10:53 AM
BLACK CANARY
DCjohnny - 10/17/2012, 10:55 AM
hal jordan before he got the ring..... that would be interesting..... but i dont want any of that to happen atleast in the 1st season....
MarkJulian - 10/17/2012, 10:57 AM
@Alex Guggenehim stated that they could show up off camera over on the original article.
MarkJulian - 10/17/2012, 10:58 AM
But due to the inevitable backlash that would occur here I didn't go there.
Extremis - 10/17/2012, 11:15 AM
@SuperDude001

just watch it.not bad as i had thought.looks promising.enjoyed the pilot.
jimpinto24 - 10/17/2012, 11:25 AM
I would like to see members of the Jl, but it will probably be before they get their super powers. As far as comic book villians. I would like to see The Riddler, Harvey Dent, Harley Quinn, or Lex Luthor. I would also like to see Green Arrow team up with Nightwing.
nowtheresaBATman - 10/17/2012, 11:25 AM
can't wait for Marvel's SHIELD show now just to show WB/CW how it's done.

OtakuPapi - 10/17/2012, 11:35 AM
This series is really well written i can't stress how excellently written it is! It was a joy to watch the first episode!
mr2324jgf - 10/17/2012, 11:40 AM
@SuperDude001

same man, I'd hate for it to go 10 seasons also and be totes awesome in the process...

smallville haters are shit.
ArtisticErotic - 10/17/2012, 11:50 AM
@nowtheresaBATman

They're making a show about Shield? Why? Shield is like the most least interesting thing about the Marvel universe.
mr2324jgf - 10/17/2012, 11:53 AM
^^^^^^^^^^ Found the one person who is unaware of the S.H.I.E.L.D show already!
Super12 - 10/17/2012, 12:03 PM
Can't wait to see it again tonight. I think they're handling the property very very well
jondoe297 - 10/17/2012, 12:15 PM
I'm not saying I want other superheroes but I wouldn't mind seeing alter egos like Bruce Wayne and not Batman
mowood28 - 10/17/2012, 12:16 PM
what drives me crazy about this site is that people complain that there isn't enough superhero/ comic based movies or shows available for those who love the genre to watch, then everytime one is announced, people spend all their time complaining about it before it is shown or even made.

That is how you kill the genre. why can't we just enjoy the fact that these show animated/live action , films, and projects are being made.

at least wait until they are aired or screened before bashing them.

to say sht show, before one has ever seen it is kinda idiotic to me. and if a show, like arrow (which I think shows promise) is premiered, lets remember that it is not going to be an exact copy of the source material. It needs to be fresh and made for a general audience, while giving the comic fanbase enough nods to satisfy them. remember, if enough people don't watch it it will be canceled. some shows need to find their legs. give it time. support it. give constructive criticism since the writers, producers, and studios read these site. bashing only makes the suits who don't understand the genre just want to pass and move, like Beyonce says, "On to the next one"
DarkArts - 10/17/2012, 12:21 PM
If the show or Arrow were done well then Arrow's producers would not be desperately looking for popular DC characters for cameos.
This is the same as Spider-Man appearing in Moon Knight or Superman in Booster Gold.
And it will end the same. Cancellation.
DarkArts - 10/17/2012, 12:29 PM
@SuperDude001 Dont worry about it turning into Smallville.
It does not have 2 great producers such as Gough and Millar.
It does not have a cast of young talent combined with exceptional experienced actors.
It does not feature an original and fresh take on a great superhero icon.
It has no heart or wit about it.

It will not last 10 years.

It is however very similar to the unaired Wonder Woman Pilot in many ways.
vermillion - 10/17/2012, 12:37 PM
Cool news. Can't wait for tonight's episode.
thewonderer - 10/17/2012, 12:40 PM
Maybe Supes is still growing and Bruce isn't Batman yet
Suzanne - 10/17/2012, 1:18 PM
This is why they should not have done a Arrow show and why they should have done a Gotham City and a Wonder Woman show because they spent the last 10 years developing the Justice League with the exception of the 3 characters that weren't allowed to use which they are now allowed to use Green Lantern, Batman, and Wonder Woman. So now they have to start from scratch with all the characters which makes no sense.
AnditsOn1 - 10/17/2012, 1:46 PM
I'm all for more DC characters on the show, but I do think bring trinity to the show would be a pretty bad idea.
DC4everLantern - 10/17/2012, 1:53 PM
Im for HAL JORDAN !!!
MJPETTY7 - 10/17/2012, 1:58 PM
I'm game. I personally think they'll do super-powers eventually (like Season 2 or 3) so I can see them bringing in a Justice League team. That would rock. Loved Smallville's JLA & JSA & Legion, so I'm hoping they do something cool like that on Arrow, but only in time, not yet.
hybridk1 - 10/17/2012, 1:59 PM
Enjoyed the pilot, and looking forward to the next episode. In response to the post - I can't stand when producers talk about "how we're going to mention other places and names, yet not show them". That's what we in Australia call "Half a root" (Look it up at Urban Dictionary).

@mowood28 Totally agree. As a CBM fan with little knowledge, I scroll down to read the posts to pick up a few points here and there. Yet, all I read is negative bashing towards either the post, or to person stating their own opinion.
SuperDude001 - 10/17/2012, 3:39 PM
Just watched the pilot...it was okay. Oliver himself is very well done. The rest is a bit meh. Kinda interesting might watch the next episode, although I fear it still might grow into a big disappointment.
A bit like Smallville as I predicted, but not that it's a bad thing at the moment (Smallville did have it's highs and lows).
KingMarvel - 10/17/2012, 3:49 PM
WTF i dont understand so now you have a Show based on a SUPER hero comicbook, but in this show nobody has SUPER powers???? I dont Understand why would they do that Isnt the hole deal of a super hero book to be about the FACT THAT HE OR SHE IS SUPER!!! so now they are talking about possebly bringin cameo's but with out super power so how the F#ck are they gonna do that with superman, Ohh i get it just man. Im sorry i have not seen this show but it allready feels sh!tty to me If i wanted to se hero's i could watch bones or CSI NY I wanna see SUPERHERO!!!! not just hero's!! How the Fr#ck are you gonna leave the SUPER out!!!! DC F#ckt up AGAIN!!!!!!
Tevii - 10/17/2012, 4:08 PM
Warner Bros. is so stupid. Its full of the stupidest execs in film right now..
The answer to all of DCs TV and film woes is for WB to clean house and get all new execs.
Execs with vision and not just corporate blow hards who jump on whats hot..but too late
SCREW WB
siggisuperman - 10/17/2012, 5:21 PM
bring on the shield show
storyteller - 10/17/2012, 6:46 PM
Smallville is a special case in that it went on for so long that it was kinda pointless to be so anal about that rule. Though i think it ultimately came down to money(except everybody else got a costume and got to fly).

But honestly they need to get past season 1 first.
REDSTORM - 10/17/2012, 6:53 PM
Hal Jordan could make the most sense. He's not necessarily super powered and has a comic background with Green Arrow.
mgeoff88 - 10/17/2012, 7:22 PM
Sounds great to me! Whatever they can do to make it so A-List superpowered characters can appear on the show.
JoseTheKingOfTheNorth - 10/17/2012, 7:35 PM
Haters gonna hate...
lonewolf1981 - 10/17/2012, 9:20 PM
smallville with arrows
magicman01 - 10/17/2012, 9:31 PM
I am enjoing Arrow! I do think that the characters need to be fleshed out a little more. Do you guys remember a show called the Equilizer? That show did a good job of depicting the mean powerful villians and the satisfaction there was at the end of each episode when things were made right by the protaganist. We really need to see what angers Arrow, we need to feel the injustices that are occuring in Star City (I refuse to call it Starling City that is just silly in my book).
I think they made Oliver look like a douchbag too much, maybe they can reighn that in a bit? I am loving the island flashbacks and the fact that DC characters will be the show.
I would like the producers to consider super powers with respect to the characters in the comics that do have those characteristics. But lets be smart about it. After the first season, slowly introduce the super power concept but make it seem rational or perhaps evolutionary. Look at Lance Armstrong, that guy seems like he has some superpower, did you hear his lungs have double the oxygen compacity campared to the average human. Super powers should be in--but lets be smart about it!
magicman01 - 10/17/2012, 9:39 PM
Also, I'm a DC guy but Marvel does a wonderful job of tying all their properties together.....DC needs to catch up. Oliver Queen, the Arrow, will need to touch the world of Batman, SUperman, ect. The super power thang can be thought out, not cheesy. SUperman is an alien from a planet (a higher density planet) which means he is a Dense being-stronger from us. Superman doesn't get his energy from carbohydrates-No, he gets it from the sun--because he is an alien. I like the Brynes revision of superman-a more realistic superman depowered slight but still having superpowers.
I'm adovocated that the writers be open minded to super powers--just be smart about it not cheesy.....please..
jingorot - 10/17/2012, 11:54 PM
it's cool if you like the show. i don't diss someone for their aesthetics.

but in my opinion, it's a poorly written mess, and am not exactly thrilled by the possibility of seeing other superheroes manhandled by these guys.
HachibiTheMC - 10/18/2012, 12:01 PM
if its pulled off in a slick way it might work. He could meet Bruce at a charity event in Gotham. Or he could be interviewed by Clark about his company.
Including Hal and maybe Barry would be believeable (all pre-powerup).

But they would have to be those "two ships crossing paths in the night" type of thing. like "hey, I wonder if that guy could be...naaaah".

I've never been a fan of Robin Hood so, yeah, not too high on DC's version of em either.
Bread - 11/24/2012, 6:55 PM
Don't show any big heroes. I don't want anymore Smallvile.

Make references but don't make a team up.
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