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WorstUserNameEver
WorstUserNameEver - 3/29/2014, 9:38 AM
I heard a nasty rumour that Fox has the rights to Kang... I hope thats wrong though.
LEEE777
LEEE777 - 3/29/2014, 9:53 AM
I like KANG a lot!

Love to see him in the MCU... Not if he's at FOX though, thought he was an Avengers foe more than a F4 one?

QuestionDAnswer
QuestionDAnswer - 3/29/2014, 10:03 AM
ruadh
ruadh - 3/29/2014, 10:39 AM
I like Kang, and would be totally open to how the MCU interprets him. But what made me the most interested in your idea was the closing argument of how he could be used as a tool to reset the universe.

Since some of the stars are preparing to move on from these characters either due to age or simply weariness of being part of such a huge franchise, it's clear that a reboot, or a soft reboot even, is inevitable. Having an actual in-plot explanation for it would actually be amazing, and possibly unique.
WYLEEJAY
WYLEEJAY - 3/29/2014, 10:40 AM
Hes more of an Avengers villain, but hes a descendant of either Reed Richards or Doctor Doom. I cant remember who at the moment. Problem is Fox owns both of them. So Marvel would just have to tweak his backstory a bit. Im sure he falls into the same gray area as Scarlet Witch, Quicksilver and the Skrulls.
QuestionDAnswer
QuestionDAnswer - 3/29/2014, 10:43 AM
QuestionDAnswer
QuestionDAnswer - 3/29/2014, 10:44 AM
KAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANG!
BatmanHeisenberg
BatmanHeisenberg - 3/29/2014, 11:44 AM
Well laid out, fantastic argument. I doubt they'd do it though, it seems they are stopping with Avengers 3, and that would have Thanos, of course. But I'd love to see him, he'd be [frick]ing awesome.
WYLEEJAY
WYLEEJAY - 3/29/2014, 11:54 AM
@BatmanHeisenberg. Say what? What makes you think their done after Avengers 3?
HulkOnion
HulkOnion - 3/29/2014, 11:57 AM
New Avengers. Kang. Booyah.
WYLEEJAY
WYLEEJAY - 3/29/2014, 12:10 PM
Could Black Panther AND Ms Marvel show up in Avengers 3? Or would it be too early for that many characters? We know Scarlet Witch, Quicksilver, and Vision will show up in Avengers 2. So who will leave the roster to make room for new members?
Abary
Abary - 3/29/2014, 12:25 PM
No, no, no. Kang is a seriously overrated villain and should not be in any Avengers movie ever. They have so many amazing villains that they should use before Kang.

However I do respect your opinion and this is a nice well-written article. Thumbs up.
BatmanHeisenberg
BatmanHeisenberg - 3/29/2014, 12:27 PM
WYEEJAY

At least the original actors will be done. That's, what I think, when their contracts end.
BatmanHeisenberg
BatmanHeisenberg - 3/29/2014, 12:28 PM
Plus they may not do Avengers movie after the third one. It makes sense. Maybe do more unknown characters in Phase Four, lead to an alternate teamup or something.
WYLEEJAY
WYLEEJAY - 3/29/2014, 12:35 PM
Oh ok. I thought they announced something. They have a replacement for Cap lined up. Luke Cage is getting his own series. I guess New Avengers is entirely a possibility.
marvel72
marvel72 - 3/29/2014, 12:36 PM
@ leee777

rama tut 1st appeared in the fantastic four,kang appeared first in the avengers.

i believe fox can only use rama tut.
kong
kong - 3/29/2014, 12:37 PM
They should just do the MCU like they do James Bond. When the contracts over recast, but keep the past movies canon. That wouldn't confuse general audiences since they've experienced it with James Bond and I've met some that think that TASM is in the same world as the Raimi films.
ruadh
ruadh - 3/29/2014, 12:50 PM
"I doubt they'd do it though, it seems they are stopping with Avengers 3, and that would have Thanos, of course."

Also, and this is one the really smart things Whedon has done....where do you after Thanos? I get that Kang could be written to be an even more formidable villain, but it really seems like he had a complete plan for Loki, then Ultron, and finally Thanos.

It really seems like they will be doing a soft reboot after Avengers 3. Most, if not all, of the characters will be recast, and it's entirely possible that by then Spider-Man will be back in the fold. Maybe Fox will let go of the FF if their new version tanks as well... All of that happening around the same time really would make sense to lead into a total reboot.
ruadh
ruadh - 3/29/2014, 12:52 PM
"That wouldn't confuse general audiences"

There's truth to that, but it clearly doesn't matter. I knew a guy who swore to me that Batman Begins was a prequel to the Burton movies, since it set up Joker as far as he could remember. Of course it doesn't line up, and he figured it out by Dark Knight. Either way, he saw Begins and loved it.

So, confusion doesn't always prevent ticket sales.

Especially since there were plenty of non-nerds who didn't get why Batman didn't show up in Avengers.
WYLEEJAY
WYLEEJAY - 3/29/2014, 1:34 PM
A soft reboot.....with Spiderman as part of it? I could be down with that.

New Avengers it is!

Captain America. Bucky.
Iron Man.
Luke Cage.
Iron Fist.
Doctor Strange.
Spider Man.
Ms Marvel.
Falcon.
and if Wolverine comes back too. Cast a new actor, and just have him be a part of the team. Dont revolve the story around him. Thor is king of Asgard so hes not around.
WYLEEJAY
WYLEEJAY - 3/29/2014, 1:36 PM
With the way the MCUs playing out.....that would most likely be their roster in this universe. IF...they got Spider man and Wolverine back.
BubSnikt
BubSnikt - 3/29/2014, 1:53 PM
All 3 of my favorite villains are in a gray area: Kang, Super-Skrull, and Annihilus
WYLEEJAY
WYLEEJAY - 3/29/2014, 2:01 PM
Annihilus has primarily been a Fantastic Four villain since his creation. Only more recently have they used him in the huge crossover Annihilation. With Thanos. In Avengers EMH they used him as an Avenger villain but thats cause they can do whatever they want in the cartoons. Are there any early stories that used Annihilus in something besides a FF book, that could cause the MCU to have partial rights?
LEEE777
LEEE777 - 3/29/2014, 2:40 PM
MARV @ Cool man!

:PP

Coz there is no way in hell I'd pay or go and see the new FANTASTIC FOUR franchise (if it gets that far LOL) ever! :P

Its a damn shame we'll never see a X-FORCE MARVEL STUDIOS movie, man talking time travellers, CABLE would fit right in, in the MCU more so than the joke of the X-MEN FOX one!
LEEE777
LEEE777 - 3/29/2014, 2:40 PM
And ^5 @ MARV, good 2 see ya!
marvel72
marvel72 - 3/29/2014, 2:51 PM
@ leee777

yeah man you to,have you seen the winter soldier yet? its f*ckin awesome.
BatmanHeisenberg
BatmanHeisenberg - 3/29/2014, 3:18 PM
Yeah, agreed ruadh.
TucksFrom2015
TucksFrom2015 - 3/29/2014, 4:47 PM
will Kang be in Age of Ultron?
no.
will Thanos share the screen with Kang for Avengers 3?
no.
are they gonna do an Avengers 4?
no.
does the MCU have time travel?
no.
CorndogBurglar
CorndogBurglar - 3/29/2014, 5:43 PM
The only wag Kang should be used is to reboot the MCU, similar to Star Trek.

Although Feige and company have said numerous times that they would rather recast characters instead of reboot, and i totally agree with that.
WYLEEJAY
WYLEEJAY - 3/29/2014, 7:16 PM
Namor. Can you imagine the rights when Universal loses them?

Hes half Atlantean. Marvel Studios.
Hes half Mutant. Fox Studios.
Primarily used in Fantastic Four since the sixties. Fox Studios.
One of Marvels first super heroes since the before the forties. Marvel Studios.

I would have to assume he would be a gray area character. Hes also been a member of both The Avengers and the X men.
Tainted87
Tainted87 - 3/29/2014, 10:07 PM
I really like Kang, and hope he gets his time as an Avengers villain someday. We need a time-traveling adventure. The Doctor Who fan inside demands it.
BubSnikt
BubSnikt - 3/30/2014, 10:19 AM
@WYLEEJAY

I was thinking that it would be much easier to do Annihilation in Marvel than Fox. Can you imagine an Annihilators movie? Nova, Ronan, Quasar, Super-Skrull, Beta-Ray Bill, Star-Lord. Now THAT would be a good movie. The only one missing would be Surfer.
fortycals
fortycals - 4/1/2014, 6:57 AM
@bub
Annihilators would be great, but Fox probably owns half of them. Super skrull or star Lord shouldn't be on that team, that team was all about "alpha" level and above, and they were actually fighting a skrull related race. It just wouldn't be right to do that team without gladiator and surfer. Nova could be a good replacement, so would black bolt and maybe binary (ms. Marvel).
fortycals
fortycals - 4/1/2014, 7:02 AM
Love me some kang. He is in my top five favorite villains. He is probably a gray area character. He is a relative of reed, but he has a long history with the avengers. One problem arises though. He is a really complicated character (it's why I like him), and he might have to get dumbed down a bit.
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