ARROW'S Count Vertigo Inspired By Liam Neeson's Ra's al Ghul

While chatting about the show, Arrow Executive Producer Andrew Kreisberg talked about how Liam Neeson's performance in Batman Begins as Ra's Al Ghul inspired their version of Count Vertigo.

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By Jake "WaylonJones" Lester - 1/8/2013
Arrow is still a week away from its return, but the buzz over upcoming villains is still very high. The Dark Archer made his presence felt before the show's hiatus, and we have seen the new promo that shows Firefly. Another villain that is upcoming will be Count Vertigo. Fringe Actor Seth Gamble will step in to play Vertigo, which has been promised to be a completely different version than the comics.

The show has not hid from the fact that they are developing a world similar to Christopher Nolan's Dark Knight Trilogy, and Executtive producer Andrew Kreisberg reiterated that by saying they are drawing inspiration for Vertigo off of Liam Neeson's Ra's al Ghul. “The comic-book version of him, the Count Werner von Vertigo… when your last name is Vertigo of course you’re going to grow up to be a super villain who uses vertigo as a weapon. That concept just doesn’t exist in our world, and we’ve never been shy about saying that we’ve taken all of our cues from Chris Nolan’s Dark Knight trilogy, and how he took somebody like Ra’s al Ghul, played by Liam Neeson, who was immortal in the comics and presented a realistic take on how he could be immortal, by having a front man who could be killed and allowing him to survive," he told ScifiNow. Kreisberg went on to say that Vertigo will be the show's first complete over haul of a character, and that he is really excited about it.

Arrow returns with all new episodes January 16th on the CW. The show stars Stephen Amell as Oliver Queen, Colin Donnell as Tommy, Katie Cassidy as Laurel Lance, David Ramsey as John Diggle, Willa Holland as Thea Queen, Susanna Thompson as Moira Queen, and Paul Blackthorne as Detective Quentin Lance.


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Odin - 1/8/2013, 8:14 AM
Well that's not bad :)
dezdigi - 1/8/2013, 8:18 AM
Hmm ... we'll see. I'm not against updating a character but sometimes they take away too much.
ralfinader - 1/8/2013, 8:36 AM
Finally watched the Arrow 1st episode on OnDemand, and at no time did I feel like I was watching a superhero origin. It also left me with no desire or curiosity to see how the story will continue in the next episode. I hope if they do Amazon, they up their game, embrace super powers and costumes and DC history and don't change stupid shit (Starling City?) for no better reason than the TV creators think they know whats better for charactors that did just fine without them for decades or more.
HeadPool420 - 1/8/2013, 8:45 AM
Why don't they just call this show "Nolan's Copycat"?
jjk2814 - 1/8/2013, 9:13 AM
Nearly every word of that statement is upsetting to me.
ddrussianinja - 1/8/2013, 9:35 AM
You know, I have nothing against taking inspiration from Nolan, but in this case, it feels like they're going with "Nolan Realism" because it was popular, not because it makes sense.

In the case of the Nolan Batman movies, they grounded the characters and the mythology to make them MORE interesting. The movies were about a man becoming a symbol to save a dying city from the crime that ate away at it from within. A larger-than-life villain with superpowers wouldn't have felt credible in that context. Making the villains feel plausible served to make us care about what happened to Gotham (at least in the first two films). That's not to say they didn't go over-the-top. I mean, pretty much every Bat-vehicle in those movies is completely ridiculous. But they managed to make the action feel gritty in order to help flesh out the character of Gotham.

But in "Arrow", making the bad guys smaller and simpler generally only serves to make the story LESS interesting. When they turned Deadshot into just some weird, tattooed assassin that got killed in like two seconds, it may have been more "realistic", but it was way less interesting. I mean, what does making Deadshot more realistic accomplish? If he was a larger-than-life, suave super-assassin, it would have been fun and it would have fit the show's tone just fine. He could have been a recurring villain. Or what about the Royal Flush Gang and turning them into a poor family of bank robbers? Out of all the versions of the Royal Flush Gang they could have gone with, they went with that? I would have gone with the "Batman Beyond" version. The "Aristocrats of Crime" would fit in perfectly with Ollie's own family background and his mission to take out the white collar criminals that are killing his city. But no, that's not "realistic" or whatever.

I'm all for grounding things in some amount of realism if it makes the content more interesting, but in the case of "Arrow", it feels like they're just trying to copy the Nolan formula without making an effort to understand why it works.
SUPERSHADOWBAT - 1/8/2013, 9:40 AM
It's not going to be exactly like the comics, but so far Arrow has been well done and entertaining. Good to have a comic based show on tv.
johnblake - 1/8/2013, 9:41 AM
question. was the christmas episode the end of season1?
SupLezz - 1/8/2013, 10:55 AM
^ it was the mid-season finale, there's going to be 20+ episodes in this season
Kyos - 1/8/2013, 11:01 AM
An evil guy with these powers whose name happens to be Count Vertigo... I kinda have to agree that this might seem a little ridiculous. ;)
AnditsOn1 - 1/8/2013, 11:12 AM
And rip-off efforts go on....
Optimus83 - 1/8/2013, 11:25 AM
It's a joke???. ...right???
AMAZO1 - 1/8/2013, 11:36 AM
I love the show but I feel like there throwing everything out in one season. What going to happen next season, better year how many seasons will this show have?

I mean the one thing this show has over clark kents show is that so far theres ben a consistant level on action and none of those half assed valentines day christmas episodes that have nothing to do with the show.
TheCaptain - 1/8/2013, 12:45 PM
This show if [frick]ing lame...
TheCaptain - 1/8/2013, 12:46 PM
*is
TheCaptain - 1/8/2013, 12:50 PM
As soon as it came on CW I knew it was gonna be more Gossip Girl/tween shit and not a great superhero show.
TheCaptain - 1/8/2013, 8:04 PM
I can't get over how BAD this show is yet some people on this site still like it. They took out all of the elements that make it comic book-y. Making it realistic doesn't make it more interesting assholes. And Oliver is a [frick]ing dick in this show also.
mgeoff88 - 1/8/2013, 9:02 PM
The headline excited me, but hearing all that ruined my excitement.

I want Count Vertigo to be more original. I don't want him to be inspired by Ra's Al Ghul from Nolan's Batman trilogy.

Heh, I hope it turns out well.
TheDarkKryptonian - 1/9/2013, 6:59 AM
I...kind of like Arrow. A lot. My second favorite tv show, right after Person of Interest.
GodzillaKart - 1/9/2013, 8:55 AM
What a boring character to be inspired by. That was one time Neeson just showed up for a paycheck.

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