First GOTHAM Season Two Promos Tease New Villains, 'The Joker', And The Batcave

That cliffhanger still has me in suspense. What did Thomas use the cave for, and who alive knows about it?

I really hope this season is better than the last one. I stuck with it hoping it would be like Agents of Shield, but it didn't really get much better. The show has some great stuff in it like Riddler and Penguin, though the latter got a little over the top near the end. And the chemistry between Gordon and Bullock is good, but the writing needs to improve. Here's hoping this season corrects the mistakes of the first one.

Agreed Doc...Waaaaay to early for him to be creating the whole batman moniker. It'd be awesome if they flashed forward every season like 5 years.

Regardless ill still watch it..last season was kinda fun in many ways.

This is Batman's version of Smallville lol

I dig it.

Last season was pretty good, except for the stupid fiancee bullshit and that season finale.

But I like this show for how kitschy it is. In this universe, Batman didn't draw all the crazies to Gotham. They were already there. Gotham was so f.ucked up it created a Batman.

I enjoyed the first season more than most, mostly because I see all the untapped potential. They have top-rate actors, excellent production values and a lot of potentially excellent story threads -- but as the show was developed by the creator of The Mentalist, it has that show's same sort of repetitive, episodic format. And some of the villain characterizations are a bit too campy. The Penguin is a case in point. The actor's doing what he can with it, but it feels like he's struggling to restrain himself to the kind of character the showrunner wants as opposed to having the freedom to explore Oswald. Same goes for the Nicholsen-esque Joker character. While Nicholson's Joker was good for that particular Batman movie (itself a celebration of absurdity, like most Tim Burton flicks), it feels cheesy in a series which presents itself as being more "realistic."

But for everything it does wrong, it does an equal number of things right. Again I'll mention the actors - specifically Ben McKenzie, Sean Pertwee and Donal Logue, who bring something fresh and interesting to their characters. It's good to see a flawed Jim Gordon working alongside and having an effect on his more experienced and cynical partner, and Pertwee makes Alfred look like someone a young Bruce Wayne could learn a lot from -- not just in regards to morality and life lessons, but as a bit of a bad-ass himself.

I think this show would be a lot more successful if they halved the number of episodes per season, and spent the saved production money on better writers who could create tighter, more involved stories.

A lot of people didn't notice how much Bane set up there was in the first season. They've laid a ton of groundwork for the origin of both that character and his favorite drug.

Will this show get better now that JadaFish is gone?

Whatever, I'll catch up from where I left off. The show isn't that bad, Spirit of the Goat is still one of my fav superhero tv episodes.

Thomas Wayne's Fap theater is still there too 20 years later. With upgrades

Because everyone wants to see a 12 year old Batman :/

Nobody's making a 12 year old Batman. In the comic, Bruce was 10 when he found the cave, so he's actually behind schedule in the show.

This show is an abortion of the batman mythos.

@McGee

LMAO!

God damn McGee, hahahaha.

@rabid

He didn't first discover the cave as part of Wayne Manor.

Nomis...please tell me you saw it legally. I want them to make more of these damn it! LOL!

@MisterSuperior
He fell through a hole in the yard originally. But later he did find out that there was an access tunnel to the cave inside the mansion that was once used to hide fugitive slaves. Thomas Wayne just used this area as storage. So it's still close to how it went down.