Agent Coulson's Death Scene Edited In European Home Release Of THE AVENGERS

There's currently no word on WHY, but the European release of The Avengers on DVD and Blu-ray has been edited to make Agent Coulson's death a little less definite. Hit the jump for details and a comparison image showing the alterations.

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By Josh Wilding - 9/17/2012
Could this be proof that Marvel Studios are indeed planning to bring back Clark Gregg's 'Agent Coulson'? Well, no. Bleeding Cool have spotted the following difference in the US and UK versions of Marvel's The Avengers on DVD and Blu-ray, and as you can see, Loki's spear is no longer shown protruding from his chest. Surely this means that they're going to retcon his death, thereby making it a little easier to bring the popular character back in a future movie? Well, the scene is still intact in the US version and several others already released across the world. The BBFC had no problem approving Avengers Assemble '12A' rating when it was released in cinemas earlier this year and the scene WAS included in that cut. So, why has it happened? If anything, it seems like some sort of mistake, and after watching the film earlier today, it REALLY lessens the impact of the scene. Regardless, hopefully we'll get an explanation sooner rather than later. With Joss Whedon's commentary AND more special features, UK fans might just be better off importing a copy of the film from the US!










Marvel Studios presents in association with Paramount Pictures Marvel’s The Avengers--the super hero team up of a lifetime, featuring iconic Marvel super heroes Iron Man, the Incredible Hulk, Thor, Captain America, Hawkeye and Black Widow. When an unexpected enemy emerges that threatens global safety and security, Nick Fury, Director of the international peacekeeping agency known as S.H.I.E.L.D., finds himself in need of a team to pull the world back from the brink of disaster. Spanning the globe, a daring recruitment effort begins.

STARRING:

Chris Evans as Steve Rogers/Captain America
Robert Downey Jr. as Tony Stark/Iron Man
Chris Hemsworth as Thor
Jeremy Renner as Clint Barton/Hawkeye
Scarlett Johansson as Natasha Ramanoff/Black Widow
Mark Ruffalo as Bruce Banner/Hulk
Samuel L. Jackson as Nick Fury
Clark Gregg as Agent Coulson
Cobie Smulders as Maria Hill
Tom Hiddleston as Loki

RELEASE DATE: September 17th, 2012 (UK) September 25th, 2012 (US)


Source: Bleeding Cool
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Daken - 9/17/2012, 7:44 AM
Of course it's edited here. What else. Especially Germany LOVES to cut and edit........... >:(
SpiderHyphenMan - 9/17/2012, 7:45 AM
-_-
RorMachine - 9/17/2012, 7:46 AM
I read the whole thing about this being done to make his death seem more ambiguous earlier on..it's not that at all. If they still have the scene include din which he stops breathing..and dies! Then he's still dead! This was most likely a cut made by European distributors who thought the shot of the spear protruding from his chest was a little too gruesome for a 12's movie.
xeno - 9/17/2012, 7:46 AM
It was probably just edited for content. There's no real reason to change it from the version shown in theaters other than the concern that someone, somewhere will find the scene too graphic. The edit does make the wound seem less lethal, however, though I don't think that was the intent.
MrChuff - 9/17/2012, 7:48 AM
The US bluray is region free... Balls to the UK version.
gregmeister - 9/17/2012, 7:49 AM
What they need to do is make Coulson the model for The LDM,s.
Think of that, there could be dozens of him walking around.
MrChuff - 9/17/2012, 7:49 AM
If they've gone this far is the scene where Thor says Loki is adopted still in?
Idiots went mental over that when the film was released so maybe that's gotten the chop too?

I am, of course, being sarcastic but seriously - WTF?
OhGawDuhhh - 9/17/2012, 7:53 AM
That was possibly the most graphic violence I've seen in a Marvel Studios film, other than that Hydra soldier who was shredded into red mist in 'Captain America: The First Avenger'.

When watching the film, it kind of shocked me, the simple brutality of it. It let me know that there were real stakes involved. Editing it out lessens that impact.
ComradeGrey - 9/17/2012, 7:55 AM
It's because it's graphic violence. The funny thing is, european films have titties galore, but apparently American kids seeing thousands of hours of brutal violence is cool and one nipple will drive them all insane.
Paulley - 9/17/2012, 7:56 AM
For [frick] sake... first no commentary and now this... let alone the collecters edition screw up. Seems like Disney have really f'ed up the home realease of this film.
jj2112 - 9/17/2012, 8:00 AM
Of course, we Europeans are very sensitive. And it's a Disney movie...
Bucht - 9/17/2012, 8:05 AM
Just checked my version of the DVD, (I'm Belgian) and you can see Coulson getting pierced just as in the first picture shown in this article.

Maybe it's only in the UK version...
Fogs - 9/17/2012, 8:07 AM
That's because of the violence. Does anybody really has some doubt about it?

To say this is "less definite" is bullshit and sensationalist.

@ComradeGrey <<-- this.
jessepostal - 9/17/2012, 8:08 AM
region free wont change anything. Region status has nothing to do with NTSC/PAL. u won't be able to properly play an NTSC dvd in a PAL player, unless your player is capable of playing NTSC. Tv's in the uk cant convert the image either.
Super12 - 9/17/2012, 8:13 AM
Oh man, I can't wait to hear why this is PROOF Coulson's coming back lol
OdinsBeard - 9/17/2012, 8:18 AM
gregmeister@

lol that LMD idea is my favorite Coulson idea so far.
superotherside - 9/17/2012, 8:30 AM
Heh, that's not very violent. People seem to complain about everything now days. LOL.
BlackMax88 - 9/17/2012, 8:34 AM
In Germany existed two versions of the movie, one cut one unrated and for the bluray-release, they decided to take the cut version, the italian version is unrated
DetBullock - 9/17/2012, 8:37 AM
@BlackMax88: And I live in Italy, wheee!
OhGawDuhhh - 9/17/2012, 8:50 AM
LEVITIKUZ

Marvel Studio's films have violence.

Iron Man knocks people out with his repulsor rays.

The Incredible Hulk smashes soldiers and brawls with monsters.

Thor clubs frost giants into submission with his mighty hammer Mjolnir.

Captain America spends 3 years in WW2 knocking out Hydra goons with his amazing shield.

Black Widow non-lethally neutralizes Hammer Industries guards with martial arts.

Hawkeye shoots security guards in Germany with his trick arrows.

This is violence.

Loki stabbing Agent Coulson from behind with a giant scepter/spear through the heart, the tip protruding from his chest, covered in blood and killing him is graphic violence.

This one moment stood out from the previous films with the graphic-ness of it. It was intentionally more intense to make a statement regarding the character of Loki, the courage of Agent Coulson and the life or death stakes of the film's conflict. It let kids know he was DEAD.

Editing this out is stupid. I hate censorship. If Joss Whedon wants me to see that as part of the story he's telling, then that's what I want to watch, not what censors have decided I should be exposed to.

Hope I clarified my statement.
nowtheresaBATman - 9/17/2012, 8:50 AM
indeed...nipples do drive me insane

anyways Coulson's death scene was terrible- right up there w/ Talia's.
billytwohats - 9/17/2012, 8:51 AM
Teacup storm.
nowtheresaBATman - 9/17/2012, 8:54 AM
@overtappeal
Dude shut the hell up the only thing spoiled here was probably your pants.
GUNSMITH - 9/17/2012, 9:02 AM
..."WAIT A MINUTE..."



...."LETS..



....MAKE....


....SURE.....



...YOU....



...DIE!...."

Darantino - 9/17/2012, 9:02 AM
@ Josh

The thing is, Disney reacted to questions from germany why the end of the spear was cut. Disney said, there were two versions in in the process of making the movie. One for the US and one for the european market and that the version we got on Disk, is the same as in cinemas. But that is just a lie cause the scene was not altered in the cinema cut. So I guess, the uk and german authorities thought of forcing the editing for the movie to a home release, to keep the +12 rating.

It's a strange situation and a clear statement would be nice. Maybe CBM could arrange that?
Angelus - 9/17/2012, 9:06 AM
Whatevasss
spidey1994 - 9/17/2012, 9:12 AM
@Angelus What is that gif from?
TheDARKestKNIGHT - 9/17/2012, 9:14 AM
Look at Favreau's eyes automatically go down to "dat ass" in the above gif. Lol classic.
GoILL - 9/17/2012, 9:15 AM
@Angelus

Thank you for that gif.
marvel72 - 9/17/2012, 9:19 AM
i've got a steel case copy of the avengers,its a got a big "A" on the cover,very nice.

not too worried by this edit(as long as he don't comeback as the vision),i'll the brief case edition & it should be uncut.

@ OhGawDuhhh

in thor heimdall cuts the head off a frost giant as well,when he defrosts.

captain america red skull test fires new hydra weapons on nazi's.
OhGawDuhhh - 9/17/2012, 9:30 AM
Marvel72

I guess everyone's idea of graphic violence is different. Personally, I'm not a prude and as long as it fits the story, I don't care.

The Thor decaptiation scene and the nazi agents getting vaporized didn't have the same effect on me as the Loki scene. It had more impact. Does that make sense? Kind of like in 'Poseidon'?

The whole movie, people are getting wiped out in horrible ways but the scene in the elevator shaft was just more 'intense' and carried an emotional heft to it. Does that make sense?

Also, I just Google'd that steelbook case you mentioned. Looks great! You're a lucky guy.

I hope we get it here in the states. Also, I noticed that the cover for Captain America: The First Avenger in other countries doesn't have the American flag flying majestically in the background. Funny little changes made to fit different markets always interest me.
CampBlood - 9/17/2012, 9:33 AM
European film board must be pussies about violence to deny the citizens the original cut

i feel bad for you guys but Europe is more liberal about nudity so its a trade off
LAWLZY96 - 9/17/2012, 9:35 AM
lolwut
CampBlood - 9/17/2012, 9:38 AM
i agree ELgUaSoN marvel does its violence just graphic enough to keep it in the kid friendly zone because they understand that kids can handle it
JDUKE25 - 9/17/2012, 9:39 AM
Meh...didn't care for his death anyway. Just felt forced.
AC1 - 9/17/2012, 10:16 AM
Maybe the EU was given an incomplete print by mistake? I doubt Disney are stupid enough to edit it before home release and not check with the film classification authorities in all the countries effected.

In that case, we actually got a collectible :)
Bucht - 9/17/2012, 10:19 AM
Like I said before: I'm from the EU, I've had the DVD for 4 weeks, and THAT is not in it.
WinterSoldier24 - 9/17/2012, 10:24 AM
Maybe they're just secretly punishing everyone throughout Europe because you bastards get it before us Americans get get. Just a guess.

;P
AC1 - 9/17/2012, 10:26 AM
Oh and for you guys arguing about what constitutes graphic violence: graphic violence is a scene or shot that explicitly shows blood, injury, distress and brutal violence.

So the scene of Coulson being stabbed with the blade protruding is graphic violence, while this new version might not be (although it probably still is).

As for the scene in Captain America: TFA involving the HYDRA agent and the propeller, I'm not sure that counts because it happens very fast, is somewhat backgrounded, and you never really see anything explicitly gruesome because it happens so fast. It's like, one second he's there, next he's blood.

The scenes in Thor involving the different ways Frost Giants are killed might not count either, as there isn't any blood, they shatter like ice rather than being wounded in a gruesome way, and the camera never lingers on them when they're being killed.
WinterSoldier24 - 9/17/2012, 10:31 AM
@cipher - Or how about when the Shredder gets crushed by the trash-compactor in the first "Turtles" flick? Or when Gaston stabs The Beast in the side?--

Oh, wait, what are we talking about?

;P
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