GOTHAM TV Series To Kick Off With Gordan Investigating The Death Of Batman's Parents?

Some possible new details about Fox's Gotham pilot have emerged, and it sounds as if we should expect to see Detective Jim Gordon investigating the death of Thomas and Martha Wayne! The report also indicates that Solomon Grundy is indeed coming to Arrow...

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By Josh Wilding - 12/2/2013

According to Bleeding Cool, their source at Warner Bros. tells them that, "the pilot script for GOTHAM has Detective Jim Gordon trying to solve a very famous double homicide." For some reason, they go on to quote Gordon's line about The Joker and a double homicide from the end of Batman Begins, but that very much seems like a case of putting two and two together and coming up with five in this instance. It instead seems far more likely that the series will focus on a younger Gordon, starting the series with him investigating the death of Thomas and Martha Wayne. This would help keep Batman out of the equation and give the team behind the series a whole lot more freedom. A recent press release recently confirmed Cyrus Gold for Arrow, but the site also teases an actual appearance from Solomon Grundy too in the CW series!
Source: Bleeding Cool
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thejackwagon94 - 12/2/2013, 10:45 AM
Solomon Grundy? Shiieeet.
jamesbrando3 - 12/2/2013, 10:46 AM
And coming for Arrow, a teaser that starts with Solomon Grundy:

“Born on a Monday…”
Someone else survived the island.
Amanda makes an offer.
A better use for that clocktower.
What is the question you should have asked?
Ollie is not the first vigilante.
Not all hoods are green.
A blank expression.
“Archer”
“Rise”
charlie2094 - 12/2/2013, 10:46 AM
This sounds, interesting! Been a lot of news about DC's TV plans, imagine we'll hear some big news around comic-con, if not before, regarding new shows. Wonder if this will have the same Gordan we'll see alongside Afflecks Batman at some stage? With all this news, I imagine official confirmation regarding whether these are set in the DCCU or not must be soon

Great time to be a comic fan!
Nomis - 12/2/2013, 10:46 AM
I know this WON'T happen....but how GREAT would it be if it could. :)

charlie2094 - 12/2/2013, 10:49 AM
@Nomis

Why wouldn't it happen? Would love to see that! Already voiced him and is a brilliant actor, not too much of a stretch..though, I think I'd rather see him take on a more villainous or 'meaty' role but any role would be great
anthonyEstark - 12/2/2013, 10:49 AM
That... Would be cool. I agree @Nomis, That would be a great choice...
jamesbrando3 - 12/2/2013, 10:49 AM
And you're right josh, sounds more like the Wayne's to me too... Don't know why BC went with Joker , especially since their context comes from a trilogy that isn't going to be a part of the new continuity moving forwards...
bluedude - 12/2/2013, 10:52 AM
Nomis ya cryanston would be great for the older Gordon in the movies but this show is going to be about a young gordon
bluedude - 12/2/2013, 10:52 AM
n DAYUM it is DC day!
TheRealistStarLord - 12/2/2013, 10:58 AM
good start.
Gyasiman - 12/2/2013, 10:59 AM
GOOD GRACIOUS SO MUCH NEWS
TheDarkKnightofSteel - 12/2/2013, 11:00 AM
DC (and BC's source) is on fire today!...i wonder what will actually end up being true!
SuperCat - 12/2/2013, 11:01 AM
DC Delight Day
Battabing - 12/2/2013, 11:03 AM
They're trying to get it all in ahead of the Spider-man 2 trailer, I bet.
MrCBM56 - 12/2/2013, 11:05 AM
How many Dc shows we getting?
Greengo - 12/2/2013, 11:06 AM
OMG that shit cray.
Jhuntdaprodigy - 12/2/2013, 11:07 AM
This would be well before Bruce Wayne becomes Batman then. I honestly can't see this show having that many actual Batman characters in it. I'm sure Loeb, Flass, and the corrupted Gotham GCPD will play a part of the show. And they could also use members of the crime families like Falcone, Maroni, Thorne, Stromwell, maybe even Cobblepott, etc. This show could actually be pretty good even without Batman.
MPS2001 - 12/2/2013, 11:08 AM
And coming for Arrow, a teaser that starts with Solomon Grundy:

1. “Born on a Monday…”
2. Someone else survived the island.
3. Amanda makes an offer.
4. A better use for that clocktower.
5. What is the question you should have asked?
6. Ollie is not the first vigilante.
7. Not all hoods are green.
8. A blank expression.
9. “Archer”
10. “Rise”

Trying to decipher the teaser:
1. Solomon Grundy obviously.
2. Slade or Shado, but most likely Slade, as earlier this year Manu Bennett confirmed on Twitter that Slade would appear in modern day Starling City.
3. Amanda Waller offers Deadshot and/or Bronze Tiger a chance to join the Suicide Squad
4. Either Black Canary returns to the clock tower or the League of Assassins take sup residence
5. No clue, maybe Riddler?
6. Maybe Malcolm, since he trained and became a vigilante and member of the League of Assassins before Ollie did. Or maybe Sara.
7. Roy becomes Arsenal/Speedy/Red Arrow
8. IDK
9. Referring to Oliver and/or Roy and/or Malcolm
10. IDK
JoeMomma29 - 12/2/2013, 11:09 AM
DC Day!!!!!!!!!
IM53 - 12/2/2013, 11:10 AM
I dunno another Batman show without Batman? Remember Birds of Prey? I can see people getting stoked for this but I dunno
IM53 - 12/2/2013, 11:10 AM
How did Fox get this? Isn't DC under the WB umbrella?
MPS2001 - 12/2/2013, 11:12 AM
@Pasto It's from the website source.... http://www.bleedingcool.com/2013/12/02/a-joker-in-gothams-past-a-grundy-in-arrows-future/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
MPS2001 - 12/2/2013, 11:13 AM
@Gusto [frick] the po-lice.
Maestro - 12/2/2013, 11:13 AM
@Mrcbm

Too much in my opinion. They're oversaturating the comic book television landscape.

-Arrow

-Flash

-Gotham Central

-Constantine

-Hourman

-iZombie

- Lt. Gordon

- Young Justice

- The Avenger

These all seem to be done haphazardly. I think DC is beginning to just say "[frick] IT! In order to overcome marvel, we need to just have more shit than them. TV SHOWS FOR EVERYONE!" lol

And according to recent news

"According to Bleeding Cool, DC Entertainment's big news for 2014 may be that they are planning on prioritising, "A series of lower-prominence comic books being turned into relatively lower budget movies."Their release schedule would be on a TWO - A - YEAR basis in the Spring and Fall, giving Warner Bros."

DC also plans to have 2 lower budget films a year, in addition to the bigger budget ones.

My god, DC is going to kill comic book content on both tv and movies. They need to [frick]ing SLOW DOWN!
IM53 - 12/2/2013, 11:13 AM
Lmfao it's Gusto:Spirit of drunk sexy
IM53 - 12/2/2013, 11:14 AM
Pasto I wouldn't rat so I was in Jail. Your welcome Dio!
JoeMomma29 - 12/2/2013, 11:16 AM
@ Maestro

You need to take into account not every person is going to watch every single show. Some viewers will watch some over others. Also I am sure certain shows will run different seasons of the years and on different networks.

Actually this is very smart of DC/WB to do this.
WruceBayne - 12/2/2013, 11:17 AM
@MPS2001
8. "The blank expression", is referring to The Question. He wears a mask with no face on it.
rabid - 12/2/2013, 11:19 AM
This excites more than any other potential TV show. It's a brilliant idea and a great way to showcase all of the non-bat history and characters of Gotham. Let's see Jason Bard, maybe a few death cults, a criminal circus, maybe the Court of Owls inducting a young Oswald Cobblepot.
Maestro - 12/2/2013, 11:20 AM
- 9 dc television shows a year. lol NINE!
- 3 DC movies a year (at least, 2 smaller budget, one bigger budget. Could end up having 2 bigger budget shows as well also)

They need to relax. lol people think the general audience is going to get tired of marvel. How quick do you guys think they'll get tired of dc? They need to TAKE THEIR TIME. Over saturation could kill their universe before it even begins.

0bstreperous - 12/2/2013, 11:20 AM
i like it but its fox so if its any good it won't last
WruceBayne - 12/2/2013, 11:25 AM
I don't know about this Gotham show. We already had a show about Gotham that didn't have Batman in it, it was called "Birds of Prey". And we all know how that fiasco played out.
TheOneAboveAll - 12/2/2013, 11:26 AM
Bryan Cranston would make an amazing Gordon and already played in the Animated TDKR, parts 1 and 2
Maestro - 12/2/2013, 11:26 AM
I'll be watching EVERY one of these shows. But i'm telling you, if they don't do good on all or most of them. It'll be hard for them to recover. Simply because they'll have so many shows running.

Lol just imagine if 3 or 4 out of the nine get cancelled. marvel trolls will rip them to shreds for "always producing shit". I'm warning you now. Just look at Fox. They produced 2 bad films in the time span of 5 yrs (X3, Wolverine Origins). Only 2, and they STILL haven't fully recovered. The public doesn't have patience.

Marvel's agents of shield hasn't been great (even though I think it has been ok) for 9 episodes. And people have already labeled it shit. Lol now multiply that by a possibility of 9 for DC and their shows.

I'm warning you guys, this is veeeery risky.
jamesbrando3 - 12/2/2013, 11:32 AM
1-Solomon Grundy
2-Slade Wilson
3-Suicide Squad
4-Birds of Prey, new hideout
5-How did Malcolm survive? The Lazarus Pit
6-Batman or an already existing hero visits from another city or is mentioned
7-Roy Harper becoming Red Arrow
8-The Question
(These are in quotes so I think they will be actually dialogue spoken by someone in an upcoming episode)
9-Ra's Al Ghul speaking to Ollie
10-Zombie Cyrus Gold after his first death being told to get up again
UltimateWarrior - 12/2/2013, 11:33 AM
Nomis: He's perfect, and I'd be all for that. He'd also be great as Com. Gordan in a new Batman movie.
MPS2001 - 12/2/2013, 11:37 AM
My new predictions for the list:
1. “Born on a Monday…”
2. Someone else survived the island.
3. Amanda makes an offer.
4. A better use for that clocktower.
5. What is the question you should have asked?
6. Ollie is not the first vigilante.
7. Not all hoods are green.
8. A blank expression.
9. “Archer”
10. “Rise”

Trying to decipher the teaser:
1. Solomon Grundy obviously.
2. Slade or Shado, but most likely Slade, as earlier this year Manu Bennett confirmed on Twitter that Slade would appear in modern day Starling City.
3. Amanda Waller offers Deadshot and/or Bronze Tiger a chance to join the Suicide Squad
4. The League of Assassins takes up residence in the Clock Tower or Clock King appears.
5. Riddler
6. The Flash, Malcolm, or Sara
7. Roy becomes Arsenal/Speedy/Red Arrow
8. The Question
9. Referring to Oliver and/or Roy and/or Malcolm
10. Solomon Grundy being told to rise by Brother Blood/someone else/Ra's
WruceBayne - 12/2/2013, 11:38 AM
@OldGreg- Gordan is wearing the exact same trench coat from the Nolanverse. Lol
I'm just screwing with ya Bro.
WruceBayne - 12/2/2013, 11:42 AM
@MPS2001- I don't think #1 and #10 would both refer to Grundy. I think #10 is something that hasn't been eluded to yet.
dckizzle - 12/2/2013, 12:06 PM
Dc is coming baby
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