Joe Carnahan Reflects On Planned DAREDEVIL Trilogy And How NEMESIS "F*cks With The Genre"

Before the rights to Daredevil reverted back to Marvel Studios, The Grey director Joe Carnahan was attached to direct a reboot for Twentieth Century Fox. Here, he discusses both that, and his take on Mark Millar and Steve McNiven's Nemesis. Is it still happening? Read on for details!

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After refusing to trade Fantastic Four characters Silver Surfer and Galactus to Marvel for Daredevil, Twentieth Century Fox had to let the rights revert for the Man Without Fear back in 2012. Just before that happened, Joe Carnahan was attached to direct a reboot of the franchise, and as we already known from the sizzle reel which found its way online shortly after, his take on the iconic Marvel character would have been very unique and clearly Frank Miller inspired. As it turns out, the filmmaker had plans for Daredevil across three movies in three different time periods.

"What people don’t realize about the DD project is that the producers of the film, got to me very late. They had a script that I read and I thought that while the action was wonderful, the story didn’t really have any additional bite. There was nothing I suggested a trilogy as follows. ‘Daredevil ‘73’ ‘Daredevil ‘79’ and ‘Daredevil ‘85’ where I was going to do a kind of ‘cultural libretto’ and make the music of those eras a kind of thematic arc . So the first one would be Classic Rock, the second one would be Punk Rock and the third film would be ‘New Wave.’ The problem was, the option was almost set to lapse so we made an eleventh hour bid to Marvel to retain the rights for a bit longer so I could rework the script. Unfortunately, it just didn’t happen. Marvel wanted the rights back. I don’t blame them."


Daredevil has of course now found a home at Netflix with The Cabin in the Woods and Sinister Six writer and director attached. As for another comic book movie which may be in Carnahan's future, he provided an update on Nemesis which doesn't exactly clear up whether or not we'll see the violent Mark Millar and Steve McNiven series brought to the big screen.

"I think the biggest challenge with Nemesis is that it’s just a motherf***er of screenplay in that it pushes a lot of buttons and does things that both expand and violate the traditional mores of the ‘comic book adaptation’ and that’s a scary conceit when The Dark Knight is considered the socio-political lynchpin of that particular universe. I think Nemesis f**ks with the genre in such a thumb-in-the-eye fashion that it might simply be something for another time and place. It’s incredibly topical and remains infuriatingly so. I chalk it up to another really wonderful script that my brother and I wrote that simply may be too smart-assed for its own good. My brother and I took our real inspiration from Nemesis in the fact that only one character, the bad guy, wore a costume. From their it deviates from the source material in a number of ways but what remains alive and well is Millar’s simmering disdain for the status quo and the relentless violence that characterizes the graphic novel."


So, while the screenplay is indeed completed, it doesn't sound as if we're going to see it anytime soon. The comic book series was incredibly popular, and with Carnahan seemingly conforming that the villain does wear the suit in his take, it's extremely frustrating to think Nemesis hasn't been given the green light based on these comments! What do you guys think?
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Pasto - 5/6/2014, 3:40 PM

SpiderFraud - 5/6/2014, 3:43 PM
I really wish we could have gotten to see this vision of DD on the big screen. Everything Carnahan has said, sounds great.
JamesMan - 5/6/2014, 3:44 PM
I would have preferred Carnahan got to do his trilogy. He really proved how much of a fantastic director he is and I would much rather have seen his spin on Daredevil than a Netflix series. Oh well. Here's hoping that Netflix series is awesome.
DrDoom - 5/6/2014, 3:47 PM
I don't blame Carnahan. It's not his fault he got courted by Fox.
DrDoom - 5/6/2014, 3:49 PM
But still, the less third party Marvel movies, the better.
ezio619 - 5/6/2014, 3:49 PM
a 70s daredevil movie, that would have been awesome,i hope they carnahan to direct one of the netflix episode,i like his style,he has directed and written episodes of the Blacklist and they were great imo
Omarvls - 5/6/2014, 3:52 PM
FOX could of kept Daredevil

all they had to do is give up Silver Surfer and Galactus
MrBlackjack - 5/6/2014, 3:53 PM
Damn, that sounded pretty badass!
JamesMan - 5/6/2014, 3:53 PM
Seriously, Carnahan is such a great director I hope he gets selected to do another comic book movie.
thebearjew - 5/6/2014, 3:53 PM
well one things for sure the dd netflix series will atleast feature dare devil

not like that fox gotham garbage prequel series to the movies or wait to ....nothing?!
yep nothing [frick]ing retread rehashed bullsh*t franchise milking
thebearjew - 5/6/2014, 3:53 PM
marvel studios whould speak with carnahan
McGee - 5/6/2014, 3:53 PM
DrDoom - 5/6/2014, 3:53 PM
Granted, I also would have loved to see Silver Surfer and Galactus in GOTG, which might have just been the coolest thing ever.
MrNiklander - 5/6/2014, 3:56 PM
Nemesis where is it?! Where is my movie dammit? A Nemesis movie adaptation would make TDK look like shit.More importantly where is Nemesis 2 Millar!?





Give it to me! (Stephen Colbert)
IM53 - 5/6/2014, 3:56 PM
I was good either way but I love me some Surfer.
MantiniuMan - 5/6/2014, 3:58 PM
DD Trilogy would have been sick with Carnaham.....

TDK trilogy of Marvel lure was a high possibility.....

BUT NO NEMESIS,WTF!!!!!!!!!!

Well atleast we get Millar World SECRET SERVICE this year....

But NEMESIS is like the Elseworld BATMAN/JOKER as one character in film...

A must see CBM IMO......

DrDoom - 5/6/2014, 3:59 PM
I wonder why Carnahan didn't just ask Marvel Studios if he could direct his trilogy under their supervision and banner. Granted, they probably want to set it in the current day, but it's not like he couldn't have had the job.
MrNiklander - 5/6/2014, 3:59 PM
Carnahan after The Grey can do anything he wants I don't think that Marvel would let him do his thing hell that's why Nemesis takes forever
McGee - 5/6/2014, 3:59 PM
@Pasto

JamesMan - 5/6/2014, 4:00 PM
@DrDoom

Probably because they didn't want to do films, hence the Netflix series. It's a shame to me because I would prefer a trilogy of films.
MrMartinMarvel - 5/6/2014, 4:01 PM
I'm sure Carnahan's Daredevil movies probably would have been pretty good, but I honestly can't say I'm even slightly disappointed Ol' Horn Head went back to Marvel before they could become a reality. Bring on the Netflix series!
MrBlackjack - 5/6/2014, 4:01 PM
@JamesMan Preach! I loved The Grey!
DrDoom - 5/6/2014, 4:03 PM
@JamesMan

So would I. I'll always prefer films over shows. I wonder if they made the decision about Daredevil being a show before or after they got the rights back.
ezio619 - 5/6/2014, 4:06 PM
i think daredevil makes sense as a tv show,i think comics can work as television due to the serialized and continous nature of both
TheCaptain - 5/6/2014, 4:07 PM
You guys that prefer Daredevil in a movie to a show?
6 hours vs 13 HOURS OF STORIES. Don't see how a trilogy (over the span of at least 7 years) is preferable to a show. Plus Netflix shows are top notch Daredevil is in good hands.
TheAbaryMan369 - 5/6/2014, 4:08 PM
This should have been made. It's not that FOX wrecked F4 and X-Men, it's that they hired idiots to do them. This could have been AMAZING.
DrDoom - 5/6/2014, 4:09 PM
@TheCaptain

I never said that Daredevil's show wasn't going to be good. I prefer movies to shows, but Netflix is also doing shows in a unique way, so it'll be interesting to see what happens. I'm just wondering why Carnahan didn't ask Marvel if he could direct Daredevil movies for them after the rights reverted. The guy is talented and clearly has a love for the material.
0megaDaGod - 5/6/2014, 4:09 PM
It would've been great to see his trilogy AND get Silver Surfer with Galaktus in the MCU

Unfortunately, Fox was more determined to jump on the shared universe bandwagon and make a new set of Fantastic Failures
jmartinez986 - 5/6/2014, 4:09 PM
if carnahan wouldve gotten the chance to do the trilogy and set it it in the years span he wanted, fox couldve used that to have daredevil make a small cameo on first class or vice-versa and that would help hint at a shared cinematic universe..
MrBlackjack - 5/6/2014, 4:10 PM
A DD trilogy set in the '70's-'80's in the MCU would have been great.
JamesMan - 5/6/2014, 4:15 PM
I would take 6 hours of the highest quality of filmmaking, and overarching well written 2 hour story, with a sizable $100+ million budgets to make the film actually look respectable, with a large audience, than 13 hours of mediocre filmmaking (that only looks better with a grey filter), with fragmented stories, and MAYBE a $5 million budget, that MIGHT reach 2 million viewers.

That's usually why I prefer films over tv (especially when it comes to CBM's). I'm not saying there aren't fantastic tv shows but I think film is a much better and way more lucrative business than tv.
TheCaptain - 5/6/2014, 4:15 PM
And to me Daredevil in the 70s sounds cool on paper but I'm glad the shows gonna be modern day.

@DrDoom
Maybe Carnahan might direct a few episodes of the show. Idk.
Inhuman - 5/6/2014, 4:28 PM
Im so glad Marvel Studios told them to go F themselves
CombatWombat - 5/6/2014, 4:29 PM
and now it looks like Marvel might do that exact idea. good on Carnahan for his vision. really
MantiniuMan - 5/6/2014, 4:32 PM
@Inhuman

I'm not.......Carnaham NARC/The Grey DD Trilogy in the 70's Hell's Kitchen would have been special like almost perfect...

You think Carnaham after seeing TDK trilogy would have made some crap....
NoPhucksGiven - 5/6/2014, 4:39 PM
Ive never read a daredevil comic before. might have to give him a look.
Nick56 - 5/6/2014, 4:41 PM
I have no interest in Disney's Daredevil, Carnahan's vision sounds great
m0th3r - 5/6/2014, 4:52 PM
lets have the same fate for FF....

Although his take is great, have DD in a larger universe and part of a "marvel knights" style thing they are doing is better..Remember he did Smoking Aces and A-Team...i enjoyed both but i hear a lot of people who really hated both films. He does a good bit of TV too...
seamuskeaneart - 5/6/2014, 5:02 PM
70's Daredevil!
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OdinsMissingEye - 5/6/2014, 5:08 PM
I would love to see Marvel studios version of Daredevil, I think this movie would be great if they use it to incorporate the Punisher into it as all stand alone Punisher movies just seem to be the regular generic action shoot em up kind of thing. If Punisher is going to stand out on the screen he needs to be along side a costumed heroes with superpowers/mutant abilities and Daredevil is the perfect hero to have him team up with.

So my line up for a Daredevil movie would be Daredevil, Punisher, Electra and Kingpin as the main antagonist, in my opinion these are the perfect players for this kind of movie.
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