i used to be a big fan :-(

@knightinarham1

too true, too true

This Ra's seems tired and weary, like he's seen too much of life to care anymore and just kills whoever makes him pissy

CROYDON!!!

Arrow is a sinking ship and it's taking Flash with it.

I still like Arrow better than Gotham or Agents of Shield. I've pretty much stopped watching those two. IF Arrow doesn't get better in the first 3 episodes of season 4, I may quit watching that as well. Felicity has pretty much killed this season with her constant bitching and crying. A lot of the stuff with Oliver is completely unbelievable this season. He was 5 feet away from guys shooting at him with automatic guns, while he was climbing out and onto the top of a car and not one single bullet came even close to hitting him! No one needs the reminder of the shooting the arrow into space escape he pulled. They turned Lance into a complete ass in one episode. Diggle is STILL pointless to the show, other than his weekly speech to Oliver about morals and what not. Wildcat went MIA after the big street fight and hasn't been heard from again. As soon as I start liking Roy, he leaves the show. The whole Ra's story line belongs to Batman. Atom is okay, but I think will be better suited for the spin off show. I really hope next season is better.

I know Flash and Daredevil are only in their first seasons, which makes them much better than this season of Arrow, but hopefully they will continue to get better each season and not have a full season of boredom like the current season of Arrow.

Here's to next season getting better.

I don't see myself ever going back and watching Gotham or AOS. The had their chance and bored me to no end. I can't stand stale Coulson and the kids on Gotham irk my nerves. It should be the Penguin show because the was the only thing carrying it while I watched it. Not sure if that has changed yet, but I doubt it.

Arrow was always bad it just wasn't this bad. Somehow it's getting worse instead of better. The first season was bad but it had a coherent story, the second one started coherent but fell apart and this one is garbage with nothing good in it. The only reason i still watch it is just to see how bad it can actually get, it's the Room of TV shows...

The only problem I have with the whole "Joining the LoA" thing is that they keep saying how Oliver will start killing again and have to go away forever. Unless I missed something that clarifies everything, why can't he lead the League with less lethal techniques. Also, he's the freaking leader. He can stay in Star City if he wants to, and we've seen Ra's leave Nanda Parbat a couple of times. What do y'all think?

Glad to see the end of Ollie's identity crisis, but I wonder what was Ra's al Ghul's "master plan" all along.

@knightinarkham1

"Not that it matters, because time travel shit will be undoing Arrow S3 and Flash S1."

Well....that's incorrect.

Let's not kid ourselves with semantics. Everyone on this site who went out of their way to make an account, simply to comment on these shows that we're obviously all watching, is a fanboy on some level.

Ra's character is a badass, but is also a master behind-the-curtain villain, indirectly responsible for countless deaths. And since he's been alive for centuries, I'm willing to bet his kill count significantly outnumbers everyone on the show.

1)Daredevil
2)The Flash (my weekly fav)
3)Peggy Carter
4)Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.
5)Arrow
6)Constantine
7)Grimm
8)Gotham (shit is bad)

@robinhood

is that Thea at the end? it sounds like her