Green Lantern was a better film than Superman Returns

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By LP4 - 7/11/2011
What prompted me to write up this editorial was that lately I've been hearing people on this site actually say that "Superman Returns" was a better film than "Green Lantern" and others simply compare them side-by-side to one another.

I'm here to say- Green Lantern (despite its flaws) was a much, much better film than "Stalkerman Returns" and down below I will explain why.

1) The Green Lantern film actually had ACTION. Hal Jordan fought.

Oh and get this...Hal actually- 'threw a punch' lol. As the picture below plainly shows...he REALLY punched. Superman didn't even throw a single punch in SR.



2) We had REAL villains in Green Lantern. Paralax and Hammond. The movie version of Paralax was lame but it was leaps and bounds beyond Spacey and Kumar in "Superman Returns"



As opposed to...

SPACEY AND [frick]ING KUMAR!!!!



I mean are you people going to seriously tell me Spacey and Kumar were somehow BETTER villains than Paralax and Hammond???!! Jesus on ice-skates on people, I don't know how much more blunt I must be. Spacey and Kumar were ridiculous in the movie. From that picture I could see them more as a comedy sitcom rather than "threatening" villains in a big budget Superman film.

3) Ryan Reynolds actually had more ACTUAL flying scenes whereas Brandon Routh was CGI'd through most of his flight sequences. He even complained himself in an interview that he wanted more actual flight scenes than the CGI ones.

The CGI was so painfully obvious



3) The lead actor- Ryan Reynolds actually ACTED in his film. As opposed to Routh who didn't even act...



Most importantly, at least the Green Lantern film was more faithfully adapted from the comicbooks than Superman Returns which was simply a Donner Superman 1 remake with even less action. Green Lantern was disappointing and faaar from perfect but at least it was entertaining. At least it kept me awake!

I was not happy with the Green Lantern film myself but to downgrade it to "Superman Returns" level is just petty and sad. I get that "Superman Returns" made big bank at the B.O but what people fail to realize is it only made lots of money because it was a SUPERMAN film. Superman is very marketable for Warner Bros. His "S" shield alone is marketed on shoes, shirts etc- So imagine the name/title- SUPERMAN. That is big bank. Plus adding in the fact that people had waited about 20 years for a new Superman film...so the anticipation was quite high from the start.

So people who keep claiming that Superman Returns was somehow "better" than Green Lantern...




Whatever you're smoking, PLEASE share. Because you guys must have seen a different movie than the one I saw.


One guy even said Superman Returns was equal to THOR. So to people making these odd claims...



Yeah that video above just about sums it up for me...
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LP4 - 7/11/2011, 4:43 PM
And I'm not giving up on my hatred for Superman Returns until I actually witness with my own eyes, a GOOD Superman film.

Until then...



At the time we already had 4 Superman films of pure character-development...6 years of Smallville with ALL character Clark-development and ZERO Superman. Then douchebag in the above picture, makes a Superman film of nothing but character-development and nostalgia for a 30 year old movie that is completely out of date.

Bryan Singer...you and your self-proclaimed-"Devil Wears Prada" CHICK FLICK [frick]ING FAIL!!!



golden123 - 7/11/2011, 5:25 PM
1)Superman Returns was not primarily an action film. It was a drama. Green Lantern was primarily an action film. That makes these hard to compare off the bat.
2)SR's Lex=an outdated bronze age villain
GL's Parallax= a less than eight year old villain
I seem to remember you love the modern age to the point the other age's hold no comparison. I think I solved that.
3) Just because someone has few lines doesn't mean they didn't act.

Superman Returns had both critical and financial success, by the way.
golden123 - 7/11/2011, 5:28 PM
@Oreos: Emerald Dawn was better. Secret Origins had the similar problems to X3. It didn't have a one certain plot. It had two. I don't know why Secret Origin is so loved. Maybey, it's because Geoff Johns has his name on it. I don't know.
LP4 - 7/11/2011, 5:42 PM
@Oreos- Fair enough, you are certainly entitled to your opinion. Btw- I'm not 10 yrs old. I'm 24.

@golden123- Dude then why make a SUPERMAN film as a "drama"? Superman is an ACTION hero in both the comics and cartoons. Making his film purely DRAMA was not a good idea. If Singer wanted to make a drama film he should have directed a "Dear John" film or something.

imnotahero - 7/11/2011, 5:58 PM
They're both bad, yes. But in completely different ways. Superman Returns was bad because it was boring and had too much emphasis on his bastard child. Green Lantern was bad because it felt like Fantastic Four 3. Superman Returns is definitely better, it's greatest fault is that it just has so much boring crap in between the cool moments.
JM4Superman - 7/11/2011, 6:00 PM
Brilliant article
THEDARKKNIGHT1939 - 7/11/2011, 6:01 PM
I liked Superman returns more. It was more dark.
naterator - 7/11/2011, 6:19 PM
SR was a better film...storywise but i enjoyed both. GL had action but very little story. Hard to compare.

Remember LP, SR wasnt supposed to be an action film. IT. WAS. NOT. DESIGNED. TO. BE. ONE. It was a re-introduction film, ya know since he had been absent for several years...right? So, SR served its function. Its just too bad that we never got to see the sequel which WOULD HAVE been a ACTION film becuase that was the plan. Anyhow, all these articles are sounding the same. BASH BASH BASH.
golden123 - 7/11/2011, 6:20 PM
@LP4: He's a superhero not an actionhero. Do all superhero flicks have to be primarily action flicks? I don't think so. If you remember, the most critically acclaimed comic book superhero movie was not primarily an action flick. Yes, I'm talking about The Dark Knight. It was primarily a crime drama. Have you noticed the difference between The Dark Knight, in terms of action, and other Superhero flicks. Besides, Superman has one of the most legendary love stories on the planet, and one of the most legendary non-fighting villain on the planet. It makes sense that a Superman movie would be a candidate for a superhero flick that isn't primarily an action movie.

@imnotahero: I'm glad to see I'm not the only one who noticed the resemblence between Fantastic Four: Rise of the Silver Surfer and Green Lantern. Besides the main villains being gases.
FriendlyNeighborhoodSpidey - 7/11/2011, 6:29 PM
I thought green lantern was better, but not much better.
Akercocke - 7/11/2011, 6:31 PM
Nope, GL is worse because:
a) the script was just plain stupid
b) It was nothing but a CGI mess with no structure (and the CGI sucked)
c) Chemistry between actors just wasn't there.

Good points:
-Ryan Reynolds wasn't bad, he did what he could.
naterator - 7/11/2011, 6:35 PM
@GOLDEN123...exactly he is a superhero, not a hardass that beats down criminals...thats Batman. In short ..i agree with your argument.
LP4 - 7/11/2011, 6:49 PM
@GDSUPERGUY- The casting was bad? Hardly. Mark Strong was an EPIC Sinestro. The casting of Hammond was also dead-on. The voice-actors did great too.

@golden- In the comics Superman fights a lot. He IS an action-hero. He's fought- Brainiac, Darkseid, Doomsday, Parasite, Zod etc heck even Lex when he wears his battle-armor from time to time. Superman DESERVES to fight in his movies.

btw- I would gladly take a gas villain over Spacey and Kumar any day of the week.

@naterator- You don't like my articles? DON'T [frick]ING READ THEM THEN. Commenting about your deep man-crush on routh, singer and their lame film isn't helping you.

incrediblesuperbatspider - 7/11/2011, 6:53 PM
I think your title should've read: "Green Lantern was a better comic book movie than Superman Returns"...When you compare the two films side by side purely as cinema, Superman Returns is a lot better, the story, characters and motivation was fleshed out, but as a comic book film then yes, Green Lantern was more faithful and action-packed.
golden123 - 7/11/2011, 7:06 PM
@LP4: Ok, I was wrong to say Superman isn't an action hero. What I should have said was, "Superman isn't primarily an action hero". Similar to the way Superman Returns wasn't primarily an action movie. Superman is primarily a superhero. SR portrayed him as being a superhero. He performed heroic feats after all. He was "super" because he was always there when he was needed.
halvor311 - 7/11/2011, 7:34 PM
Ok, what in the world was wrong with Green Lantern??? I don't understand it at all. Everything I've read from Green Lantern comic books is pretty good and the movie takes it pretty seriously. I just don't get it.
MarVell - 7/11/2011, 7:55 PM
@LP4 - I found something we agree on. I'd much rather watch Green Lantern, with all it flaws than Superman Returns.

From all I've read on this site, you really hate Superman Returns and the Richard Donner Superman movie with a passion and can't seem to take anyone elses opinion that isn't a kin to your own. Remember, hate and anger are paths to the dark side of the force.

I enjoyed reading your artical though.

BIGBMH - 7/11/2011, 8:20 PM
I completely disagree.
LP4 - 7/11/2011, 8:24 PM
@BIGBMH- Why exactly do you disagree? Mind elaborating?

@DROMEO- Yeah I could have expanded on the title a bit, you're right.

@Fitz- No I'm fine with people having different opinions than my own but the GL film gets way more shit thrown at it than it should. And I mean especially compared to SR. Just doesn't seem right. GL for the most part was better- had better villains, better action, even a better story! SR had a HORRIBLE story- Superman impregnated lois, ditched her and the kid for 5 years...that is horrible.
sonofsamadams - 7/11/2011, 8:27 PM
@LP4
You really do hate Superman Returns, don't you?
LP4 - 7/11/2011, 8:28 PM
@golden- "Similar to the way Superman Returns wasn't primarily an action movie"

What do you MEAN Superman Returns wasn't "primarily" an action movie? It wasn't an action movie AT ALL PERIOD. There was NO action. Superman lifting heavy objects doesn't count as action because it isn't fast-paced, edge of your seat crap. The entire movie seemed like it was in slow-motion. Dear god it was a "Grandma's film" give me a break people.
LP4 - 7/11/2011, 8:30 PM
@Justsomeawesomeguy- Yes I DO hate SR because I like many others had waited a long, long time for a new Superman film only to get- Superman impregnating a bitch, then ditching her for 5 years. THAT. AINT. SUPERMAN.

golden123 - 7/11/2011, 8:45 PM
@LP4: Action doesn't mean fighting.
LP4 - 7/11/2011, 8:51 PM
@golden- Typically yeah action does refer to fighting or at least something occurring that is exciting. Superman lifting something slowly isn't even exciting.

Face it- SR was devoid of any/all action.
superotherside - 7/11/2011, 9:06 PM
I agree... GL had its flaws but SR was stupid, I couldn't even watch it... lol the only good thing about it was it did have cool music... but that's the only thing...

still I hope that the new movie has it's own music... give a nod to the old music but not the exact same thing... lol
LP4 - 7/11/2011, 9:14 PM
@otherside- Thank you my friend. SR WAS very stupid. Good to meet like-minded people on here.

And I agree with you, hopefully MOS can make its own musical score. Snyder needs to set his own standard...he shouldn't HAVE to adhere to the Donner universe or the "Donner way"

Donner's time is DONE.
sonofsamadams - 7/11/2011, 9:50 PM
@LP4
You forgot... He's also a peeping Tom :P
LP4 - 7/11/2011, 9:58 PM
@Justsomeawesomeguy- Oh yeah I forgot, he peeped on Lois ;P

Not only that but if you rewatch that scene, it showed him descending from behind what i believe was either a bush or a tree while he spied on lois. It's one thing to spy on someone but to do it behind a tree or bush is just plain CREEPY. lol
MrSuperheromoviefan - 7/11/2011, 10:39 PM
Agree. Lantern is better
LP4 - 7/11/2011, 10:49 PM
@MrSuperheromoviefan- Thank you my friend. ^_^
JaySin420 - 7/11/2011, 11:40 PM
Well if you go by critics and box office results, it's not even close. But if you go by action scenes and potential, then maybe.
spider1489 - 7/11/2011, 11:41 PM
green lantern was waayyy better
spider1489 - 7/11/2011, 11:41 PM
green lantern was waayyy better
LP4 - 7/12/2011, 12:40 AM
@JM4Superman- Thank you my friend.

@JaySin420- I already said i'm not going by the box office numbers or critics. I'm going by fan-standards because in reality- fans are the best and truest and MOST REAL critics for these films.

@spider1489- Thank you!!
Berger45 - 7/12/2011, 12:44 AM
Green Lantern was waaaaay way better than Superman Returns. Superman Returns sounds epic but it was as epic as Sex in the City. However I always thought Routh could really become the new Superman but evidentely not.. Green Lantern was unlucky. I do not know how they could [frick] it up so much. It had so much potential but it was still a million times better and more engaging than Returns. Reynolds IS Hal Jordan!
blackcelebration - 7/12/2011, 3:28 AM
@jimyjam1991.

I agree allot with what you said.

My main problem with the movie wasn't the Superman-Lois relationship, it was the Clark-Lois relationship. Singer seemed to get the Superman-Lois relationship (Well kinda) but forgot about Clark and Lois.

Yes, we all know that Clark is Superman, but Lois doesn't. The charm of their relationship has always been them working together on a dangerous story and Clark having to turn into Superman to rescue her.

If Singer really wanted a Kid then when Superman returned Lois should have been a single mother and through Clark they form a relationship. Instead all we had was Lois bragging how much of a jerk Superman is to Jason whilst Clark mopes around in the background. This as well as Lois and Clark working on the story of Metropolis's newest villain (Lex, Metallo, Toyman...) should have been the main focus.

The biggest problem was that in this film Superman was a reactive character not proactive. Had he been proactive (Which he easily can be through Clark) then we would have seen far more awesome action than we did.

Hopefully The Man of Steel puts as much (If not more) Clark time as Superman time.

As far as this debate on Green Lantern and Superman Returns go, then it's Superman Returns, yes, Green Lantern had action but it had no characters I cared about, also, unless you're a comic buff you'd be lost on half of the plot.

Although, Superman Returns characters were flawed and their decisions questionable. They were more character like than Green Lantern (Although, the characters in Superman Returns are capable of much better).
LEEE777 - 7/12/2011, 3:34 AM
LP4 @ What the [frick] is wrong with you???

If your gonna hate on Superman hate on SHITSVILLE and WELLING... man thats the total insult of the Superman legacy right there!

An I like SUPERMAN RETURNS & GREEN LANTERN both cool DC movies!

Both could have been more epic tho but both still TRUE to the comic book characters!

One day we'll get that WATCHMEN again... one day!!!



Sturmpionier - 7/12/2011, 4:08 AM
Well, ok, but GL didn't impregnate some chick and just leaver high and dry with the kid for 5 years. That really adds a realistic edge that GL couldn't match.







Oooh, sorry, a forgot to hit the sarcasm button first.
eatmyhit - 7/12/2011, 4:54 AM
Firstly i hated both GL and Superman returns but if it came down to which one i had to watch again it would be GL. Superman is supposed to inspire i remember watching the donner films when i was a kid and although i don't like them now after watching them i was in awe and quickly tied a sheet around my neck and put my pants over my trousers and started to pretend i was flying round the house much to my parents annoyance. Now i took my nephew to see GL and made him Watch Superman returns as i thought if i don't like them maybe he will. Low and behold he loved GL and came out the cinema pretending he was flying but not even half way through Superman it was painfully obvious he was getting bored and it was sad to see that not even a 7 old can be inspired. After that though we watched T2 and he loved that lol.
davidking - 7/12/2011, 5:00 AM
They both flattered to deceive. They both needed to stick to the comic book script and they needed to tell stories worth telling in a good way. Superman told a story no one was interested in and Green Lantern told a good story badly. Check the review: http://rubadiri.blogspot.com/
YourMomNaked - 7/12/2011, 5:59 AM
I'll settle this with one simple question: which tastes worse, dog shit or cat shit?
BIGBMH - 7/12/2011, 7:37 AM
@LP4, I strongly disagree that GL is better than Returns and I feel that your points don't prove that GL is a better film.

1. GL had more action. Transformers has more action than TDK. Doesn't make it better. They're different kinds of movies. I actually think the plane rescue in Returns was quite good. It was more exciting than some of Gl's action scenes for me.

You claim that SR was completely devoid of action. Not true. Along with the airplane rescue, there's the bullet in the eye scene. It's not much, but it still qualifies and if it was part of a Superman movie that people loved, it would probably be a favorite scene amoung Superman fans.

2. Parallax is a real villain? He's a blob that just wants to destroy stuff. No personality or anything. Hammond was pretty crappy too. Lex's plan sucked, but Spacey acted the role well and he's easilly the best of the 3 villain for me.

3. Seems pretty inconsequential to me.

4. Routh didn't act? You may think that he didn't act well, but he acted. He's not really Superman. I anything, I think it's worth admitting that he did a good job with that version of Clark Kent even if you don't agree with the interpretation of the character.

5. More faithful to comics =/= better movie. It makes it a better adaptation, but not a better movie.

Note that I'm not saying "You're wrong." I'm saying I disagree with your opinion and the points you made aren't strong enough to make me consider changing my mind.

InfiniteJest - 7/12/2011, 7:55 AM
Superman Returns was a well-made film. It was fairly well-received by film critics, and it earned almost twice its production budget. I just don't understand when people say it was an "epic fail" or whatever. I guess it's just one of the over-repeated fanboy conjectures. It's the same thing over and over again: no action, stalker-man, super-kid, etc. I liked Green Lantern, but it didn't inspire me to get into GL comics like Superman Returns did.

No Action in SR?

This one can't possibly be supported, unless the only possible definition for the word action is "To throw a punch."

Eh... Nevermind.
manymade1 - 7/12/2011, 8:01 AM
@ Oreos I think most people completely forgot about the left out scene descriptions we got from the makers of the film, which tells me that wasn't Campbells cut of the film. I think were suppose to be getting a directors cut thats more like Secret Origin.

Great article LP4, I thought it was much more exciting and better than Superman Returns. At least we got to see some punches thrown.
Knightstalker - 7/12/2011, 8:20 AM
@Golden....Parellax has been around longer than eight years. I fisrt discovered him right before the Marvel/DC crossover event called Amalgam. I still have the comic books to prove it.
Knightstalker - 7/12/2011, 8:23 AM
@LP4.....You could put just about any CBM title in the title of your article and it would still work. The 1990 version of Captain America is better than Superman Returns!

BTW, were you aware that Kumar (Kal Penn) is now part of the Obama staff. Kumar friggin' works at the White House! One more nail in the coffin of Western civilization.
InfiniteJest - 7/12/2011, 8:31 AM


I'm pretty sure Hal's punch sent a guy through a brick wall. Unless the power ring preserved the guy's life (since the rings can't be used for killing in pre-Sinstro-Corps-War GL continuity), that guy probably died.
claybo4131 - 7/12/2011, 8:44 AM
Hector Hammond screamed like a whiny school girl, super villains do not do that. He is not even a 3rd rate villain, I had to open my DC Encyclopedia to look him up and he only has 1/4 of a page where Sinestro had a FULL page.
naterator - 7/12/2011, 10:00 AM
@LP4...Why is it everytime you make a comment to me its always about a supposed "man crush" on ROUTH and SINGER? Is it just becuase i dont agree with you? well you do realize that there are several people on these message boards in your articles that oppose you or in other words disagree with you....not only do they disagree with you they are constantly asking you what your age is. OK your 24...but your abrasive behavior reflects that of a 14 year old.
golden123 - 7/12/2011, 10:06 AM
@InfiniteJest: I'm with you, but in all fairness, you're going to be hearing the same arguments over and over again. What are they supposed to do? Come up with new reasons of why they hate Superman Returns every day? That is absurd.

@Knightstalker: Parallax first appeared by name in 1994. He was simply the evil version of Hal Jordan. In the miniseries, "Green Lantern: Rebirth", in 2004, was Parallax's first appearance as the demonic yellow creature we know him to be. It was retconned that the being known as Parallax took over the body of Hal Jordan. The version of Parallax on the big screen was not an evil Hal Jordan. It resembled the version published less than eight years ago. I would like to note that I was talking about versions of the characters. I mentioned the bronze age Lex, which is very different than the modern incarnation, and I infered the current version of Parallax, not the one that first graced the pages of a comic book in 1994.

@claybo4131: Sinestro is GL's arch-nemesis. Of course the arch-nemesis's are going to have a lot of space. GL's rogues gallery isn't as big as Superman's, Batman's, or The Flash's. Their villains are more recognizable and probably have more room. Besides, GL is an origin movie. Origin movies don't need to have A class villains. I don't know what yearr that encyclopedia is dated, but Hector Hammond has become a much greater villain in the past years. HH has done alot under Geoff Johns. Another thing you should consider is that not all villains are supposed to be these cool, sly, bad@$$ed villains. In real life alot of the so called infamous villains of the world were losers. I don't see why a villain can't be a loser. Did you know Hitler went to art school, but his teacher said he was no good. So he went and started his path to being the ruthless dictator we know today.
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