VIDEO: More From ANT-MAN Cast On Edgar Wright, Costumes, Characters And Comic-Con

Paul Rudd comments on his costume, working with Adam McKay on the script, and having to rethink the film after Edgar Wright's exit, as Michael Douglas, Evangeline Lilly and Corey Stoll talk Comic-Con

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By DCMarvelFreshman - 7/27/2014

Armed with the astonishing ability to shrink in scale but increase in strength, con-man Scott Lang must embrace his inner-hero and help his mentor, Dr. Hank Pym, protect the secret behind his spectacular Ant-Man suit from a new generation of towering threats. Against seemingly insurmountable obstacles, Pym and Lang must plan and pull off a heist that will save the world. Directed by Peyton Reed, Ant-Man stars Paul Rudd, Michael Douglas, Corey Stoll, Evangeline Lilly, David Dastmalchian, Michael Pena, and Patrick Wilson, and is set for release on July 17, 2015
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TheGambitFreak - 7/27/2014, 7:57 AM
That interview with Fiege where he said they removed Ant-Man and Wasp from the Avengers cause Edgar wanting to do this thing pretty much revealed Edgar had been holding the growth of the MCU back this whole time. I'm glad Reed is on board now. He is excited about it and that's what matters most.
EhMaybeSays - 7/27/2014, 8:02 AM
Meh as always.
AlexanderLykins - 7/27/2014, 8:07 AM
From what I understand, Pym and Janet will be superheroes in the 60's or 70's. So essentially Tales to Astonish. Janet dies in action and Pym retires from being Ant-Man. Thus, his hate for superheroes. Jump to present day and proceed with To Steal an Ant-Man with Scott Lang. Hope Pym will eventually become Wasp and both of them will become superheroes.
TheAmbassador - 7/27/2014, 8:14 AM

Sounds good and all, but I'm still bummed we're not getting the traditional Henry and Janet. I really grew to admire their characters while watching EMH and I really wanted to see those characters put into the MCU
ProfessorX - 7/27/2014, 8:17 AM
I love the idea of a superhero heist movie. Can't wait!
KurtWagner1225 - 7/27/2014, 8:21 AM
ProfessorX-yeah and peopel who saw said it had that heist feel to it
AlexanderLykins - 7/27/2014, 8:22 AM
You can thank Edgar Wright for that! True talk, not kidding. He [frick]ed Hank Pym and Janet Van Dyne over. Sure, Marvel let it happen, but it's Edgar's plan. No time to change things, only minor tweaks can be made.

I agree with you wholeheartedly, but I'm excited to see what Marvel does with the character because I'm not a big Hank Pym fan. I'm an Ant-Man fan. I'm a fan of the powers and the suit and the awesome action.
PAF - 7/27/2014, 8:35 AM
They better not make Corey Malekith 2.0. I want him to get his due!
XF14 - 7/27/2014, 8:39 AM
Wont be spending a penny on this movie. I'm sure the FX will be cool and that'll be the only reason I bootleg this when on BluRay.
TheAmbassador - 7/27/2014, 8:53 AM

I know that Wright is "to blame" for no real Pym or Van Dyne. I was never thrilled when he brought out "To Steal an Ant-Man" at CC a few years ago basically confirming that was his plan, but I could always look past it just because we would be getting Wright's style to go with it. Now it's kind of like getting a gigantic quarter pound burger you've been wanting for a long time, but it's served to you with no meat. Shitty analogy, I know, but it's the best I could come up with at this hour :)
AlexanderLykins - 7/27/2014, 8:59 AM
It made sense to me and I completely understand. I hate that it had to be this way.
PymParticle - 7/27/2014, 9:00 AM
Another Iron Man 3 incoming!
CroissantSpeedy - 7/27/2014, 9:05 AM
Darktower - 7/27/2014, 9:10 AM
enough of this Ant-man shit!! anit nobody happy about it.
DrKinsolving - 7/27/2014, 9:28 AM
A little worried about this but it sounds like the general public never knew about Pym and Ant-Man, so seems like Marvel is playing with secret identities.... I think Pym and Janet will play into the Agent Carter show
UltimateCookie - 7/27/2014, 9:29 AM
Interview with the cast? You mean what's left of the cast right?
TheBrotherhood - 7/27/2014, 9:39 AM
The problem with Edgar Wright is that he's been developing this film (yeah I know he's really passionate about it) way way too long, even before the first iron man, I mean, he's not blind and he can see that a CINEMATIC UNIVERSE is growing and developing rapidly right before his very eyes! He must be smart enough to know the ramifications of what Marvel is doing with their Cinematic Universe and his project that he's developing for years and years. Granted that the main reason that marvel is doing this is because of him BUT come on, at least have some decency to return back the favor by just being collaborative about this project, what he did somewhat for me is...took his balls with him and went home.
Ragnaroknroll - 7/27/2014, 9:45 AM
Edgar Wright on Ant-Man

One of the things I don't want to do is get into the whole Marvel history...

That character isn't one of [Marvel Studios'] biggest properties.

We [Wright and Feige] discussed whether he would be in The Avengers. The thing is, the script that I’ve written [...] the chronology of it or the way it works wouldn’t really fit in with what they do.

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Stubner - 7/27/2014, 9:45 AM
TheGambitFreakIsBatmanOfCBM - 7/27/2014, 7:57 AM

That interview with Fiege where he said they removed Ant-Man and Wasp from the Avengers cause Edgar wanting to do this thing pretty much revealed Edgar had been holding the growth of the MCU back this whole time. I'm glad Reed is on board now. He is excited about it and that's what matters most.

Ssshhhh! Stop making sense! People around here despise reasonable logic.
InfiniteMonkey - 7/27/2014, 9:46 AM
Tempest in a teapot!
Some of you need to meditate worrying about such trivial things and in the end, you will watch it much to your "refined" sensibilities.

Marvel is at the helm, they know what they're doing.

Can't wait to see what they make of this movie.
Ragnaroknroll - 7/27/2014, 9:46 AM
Kevin Feige - last year

Frankly, now we have to re-write [Ant-Man] to put it a little bit more into the [Marvel Cinematic Universe] because it was written before it existed
Ragnaroknroll - 7/27/2014, 9:46 AM
Kevin Feige

We changed, frankly some of the MCU to accommodate this version of Ant-Man. Knowing what we wanted to do with Edgar and with Ant-Man, going years and years back, helped to dictate what we did with the roster for Avengers the first time. It was a bit of both in terms of his idea for the Ant-Man story influencing the birth of the MCU in the early films leading up to Avengers.
Haltiamieli - 7/27/2014, 9:47 AM
DrKinsolving: Unless they make Hank Pym considerably older than Michael Douglas really is, I don't see how that could really happen. Douglas was born in 1944, the first season of Agent Carter will be set in 1946.

Evangeline Lilly has a tendency to take roles that (a vocal part of) the fans hate. Kate on Lost, Tauriel in The Hobbit trilogy, now this...
Stubner - 7/27/2014, 9:49 AM
Look if what Edgar Wright wanted to do didn't really fit into the MCU then he did the right thing by leaving.

That seems to be exactly what happened. He realized this wasn't going to work anymore. Therefor he wouldn't be satisfied with Ant-Man anymore, so he left. That simple.

Everyone around here makes it sounds like Kevin Fiege put a gun to his head and demand he do what he wants or else. It's incredible. If that were true why did Kevin let Edgar lead him on for years? I mean. THINK about it.
Ragnaroknroll - 7/27/2014, 9:50 AM
More from Feige on why Pym is not in the Avengers:

It was... A story Edgar wanted to tell that we'll see with Michael Douglas and Paul Rudd, and now we're 11 films in...
2gold - 7/27/2014, 9:52 AM
I think Edgar is very much one of those directors who feels his world is his world and he shouldn't need to worry about it being part of the real world. It's not a bad way for a creative mind or creative director to be, but it is NOT the type of mind that will work with a shared universe of DC or Marvel. Could Edgar do a DC television show on say CBS? Sure, the brand is different and not part of a shared universe so he could and it would likely be interesting to fantastic.

I think when Marvel was first starting and Edgar came to them with the idea, they could not have predicted shared universe would work. Then when it started working, I guess they figured 'ok, Edgar is creative, he'll get it' and well, Edgar didn't. It makes neither the bad guy, just two different approaches to the process. Marvel wants a shared universe, Edgar may have wanted an Ant-Man universe without the MCU implications. So really the only mistake the two sides made is they didn't bother to find this out from the start or even in the middle when they saw it was working. They each had an expectation and neither could meet that expectation anymore. It's a shame, it's sad but it is what it is and now Marvel is trying to make his idea work since they can't turn back now.
Ragnaroknroll - 7/27/2014, 9:55 AM
Edgar Wright on Ultron

It was never in my script. Because even just to sort of set up what Ant-Man does is enough for one movie.
dethpillow - 7/27/2014, 9:56 AM
@Brotherhood - that's a good point.

cuz Edgar Wright is not a dummy. to make movies like he does, the guy's not a dummy. how did he not see this coming?

he seems kinda passive. and that can work for a lot of situations.
but you can't be making movies with $200 million budgets and sit there and suck your thumb over it, and just hope it goes away and then act sad cuz you weren't allowed to be who you wanted to be.

which is kinda how i see it now. cuz if you look at James Gunn. He's also a person who is really entirely a weird fit for a big budget movie. you would think just superficially.

his movies have always come off a little purposefully awkward and contemptuous to me. like he hates people a little bit. which is something i totaly empathize with , i don't mean that in a nasty sense. but he has a healthy contempt for the world.

and confronted with a new situation, a new opportunity, he dove into it and we'll see soon if he made it work or not, but he invested himself entirely in doing it right. which as a director means making it work.

Edgar Wright obviously, did not make the situation work. you can't even argue against that, cuz if he had made it work, he would be filming the movie right now. and it doesn't reflect on him as a person or as a film maker even really. but he failed at his attempt at Ant-Man.

and he took a long ass time to do it.
and i think the lesson learned in some ways, is if your going at fail at something, just get in there and fail at it right off the bat. don't take eight [frick]ing years dicking around at failing at it.

and i don't mean that Edgar Wright is a failure becuz of this. Marvel failed too. but Edgar Wright failed too.

if you look at your own life, you mostly fail at things. this is just true, without exception. there is no person that mostly succeeds at things. in the entire world there isn't. so you fail at things. you aren't a bad person.

Edgar Wright's allowed to fail too. in fact way more than you are becuz of all the rad stuff he's not failed at. but it's technically a failure none the less.
TheBrotherhood - 7/27/2014, 10:18 AM
Now the real chips are falling down on edgar wright, we've been blinded at first sight....loving this thread!
SauronsBANE - 7/27/2014, 10:22 AM
I hate to be "that" guy, but I literally have no expectations or any investment in an Ant-Man movie (and even less so with Wright off the project). The whole mentor/mentee aspect and the "passing of the torch" thing is pretty intriguing...but I'm pretty meh on the whole concept of this thing. Safe to say I'll be watching this movie solely because of the afore-mentioned aspects, and the strong cast (mostly Rudd, Douglas, Stoll, and Evangeline Lilly). Other than that, I just couldn't care less about an Ant-Man movie.
TheBrotherhood - 7/27/2014, 10:23 AM
@dethpillow Glad to hear that Peyton Reed is a fan at heart, I mean the guy just had his 20th Anniversary of attending Comic-con, he's pumped up for this film and HE (with the rest of Marvel Team) knows that this film is Edgar Wright's Passion Project. They will still adapt the DNA of his and Joe Cornish's script and tone for this film. Reed is simply carrying Edgar Wright's work and he knows it and he's grateful for the opportunity and what the so called "FANS" did to him at comic con?

They boo the hell out of him then laugh at his expense after.

These things sickens me that these people are "FORTUNATE" that they are in HALL H and the least thing they could do is appreciate and support them in making this film.
SauronsBANE - 7/27/2014, 10:25 AM
I've been on the bandwagon of blaming Marvel for the whole situation, but I'm starting to believe that there's no side that's really at fault here. It's just two parties that drifted in different directions over the course of almost a decade. It happens.

Still, whatever the case may be, I'm MUCH more interested in seeing a behind-the-scenes documentary about the production of Ant-Man than I am in watching the movie itself.
RynerLute - 7/27/2014, 10:25 AM
Edgar Wright's very own Trilogy doesn't even have continuity with each-other aside from the returning core of actors and production Team.

That should tell you everything you need to know about Edgar's willingness to compromise for Marvel's plans.
KurtWagner1225 - 7/27/2014, 10:26 AM
the footage sounded great and it just being a heist film is the thing that has got me excited the mot..hopefully it is good!!!
SauronsBANE - 7/27/2014, 10:29 AM
I'm pretty sure no one booed Peyton Reed either. El Mayimbe, Devin Faraci, and others on twitter who were there claim that there was a subdued response to him, but no booing. I feel like more people would've reported that. It'd be ridiculously out of character for the fans who flock to Comic-Con anyway, where they cheer the crap out of EVERYTHING and EVERYONE.

Seriously, studios get "tricked" all the time because fans there cheer for everything (footage, trailers, casting decisions, etc), so studios just assume that the rest of the audience will like it too...and a lot of the time, they don't. Booing doesn't fit the profile of the stereotypical sycophantic fans that usually fill up Hall H.
dethpillow - 7/27/2014, 10:29 AM
@SauronsBANE - yes! that's what i would love to see most now too.
i'm excited about that Superman Lives thing that they are making, and would totally love to see one for Ant-Man and Spider-Man 4.

SauronsBANE - 7/27/2014, 10:31 AM
"Edgar Wright's very own Trilogy doesn't even have continuity with each-other aside from the returning core of actors and production Team."

The Cornetto Trilogy isn't SUPPOSED to have its own shared continuity. Its three separate movies, which happens to have the same director and same actors, all portraying vastly different characters altogether. Using that as a reason for why Wright wouldn't fit in with the MCU is...uninformed, at best.
SauronsBANE - 7/27/2014, 10:34 AM
@dethpillow, Absolutely! I'd even like to see ones for The Avengers, Iron Man 3, TASM 2 (purely out of morbid curiosity haha), and now Iron Man 1, with Jeff Bridges' recent comments about it. But Ant-Man is definitely at the top of my list!
RynerLute - 7/27/2014, 10:36 AM
"The Cornetto Trilogy isn't SUPPOSED to have its own shared continuity. Its three separate movies, which happens to have the same director and same actors, all portraying vastly different characters altogether. Using that as a reason for why Wright wouldn't fit in with the MCU is...uninformed, at best."

The point is Edgar is a creative integrity type of guy, he wants each of his projects to be completely different from the last aside from his tone. He likes his stories to grow organically that's why he didn't just completely adapt Hank Pym's story and not even Scott Lang for that matter.

I'm not saying it's bad, I'm saying the people who are surprised this relationship fell apart shouldn't be, because shared continuity isn't really Edgar's style to begin with.

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