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Will Hulk & Loki Face The Avengers After All?

Recent claims for Marvel's highly-anticipated Avengers movie, has villains in common with Stan Lee's first original 'Avengers' comic. Check it Out!

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By DCMarvelFreshman - 12/9/2010
While the big question regarding Joss Whedon's highly-anticipated Avengers film, is what villain would cause earth's mightiest heroes to assemble, various rumors and speculations had the original God of Mischief & Jade Giant in mind. Well a more-recent allegation has made the rumor more of a possibility.



Gregory Littley, who revealed that the first official THOR teaser would debut via Yahoo, says verbatim:
The Hulk will be a villain in #Avengers... but the main baddie is Loki.


As mentioned, theres been heavy speculation of the two villainizing, simply because they did so in the original "Avengers' comic. However, most of that speculation originated from the devious replies in the actors behind Loki and Hulk, Tom Hiddleston and Mark Ruffalo when questioned whether it was true.

While Gregory states theres more details to come, for now, take this with a grain of salt. I can definitely see them respecting the first comic using the original plot of Loki taking over Hulk in some form or way in the film, though not as the main threat. If true, I'm sure theres a twist, or simply more villains involved. Though that's quite a lot to deal with, what do you think?

Starring Robert Downey Jr., Samuel l. Jackson, Chris Evans, Scarlett Johansson, Chris Hemsworth, Jeremy Renner, and Clark Gregg, The Avengers assembles May 4, summer 2012 in 3D. And filming is set to commence early next year.
Source: Gregory Littley
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HarryKolmer - 12/9/2010, 6:42 PM
Check, what out?
WolvieCBM - 12/9/2010, 6:43 PM
@Harry: Freshman is editing the story, it will be done in a few...
StuckInPanels - 12/9/2010, 6:49 PM
Sweet. so they going with the classic story of how they formed the Team....with Captain America Included...Maybe a combination of Ultimates and the 616
Ibz - 12/9/2010, 6:51 PM
i certainly dont mind this but i thought it would be better to fight whole group and HOPEFULLY hulk breaks free of control from loki and fight along side the avengers that would be pretty good
LucasMend - 12/9/2010, 6:54 PM
God damn, I hope so. LOKI and Mind Control HULK are a must on the movie. and the Enchantress too of course.
Nice find man!
BrotherStarkofMABMindz - 12/9/2010, 6:58 PM
I wanted to see the Avengers face Loki, Hulk, Baron Helmut Zemo, Absorbing Man and the Mandroids
marvel72 - 12/9/2010, 6:59 PM
loki & the enchantress using mind to take control of the hulk would be a fantastic idea & a nice homage to the classic avengers 1.
TheDarkHornerIsRising - 12/9/2010, 8:24 PM
im very happy with this :)
Zombie137 - 12/9/2010, 8:37 PM
Seeing a live action punch from Hulk into Caps Shield would be amazing.
TheDarkHornerIsRising - 12/9/2010, 8:40 PM
i wonder if there will be a hint at the hulk at the end of thor :P
GUNSMITH - 12/9/2010, 8:46 PM
LIKE THE ANIMATED MOVIE??? CMON MAN BE ORIGINAL. OH MAN CMON.
elcaballerooscuro92 - 12/9/2010, 8:48 PM
im sure its classic that story, but that doesn't make sense, i mean nick fury is forming the avengers for a reason, i thought they were going with some kind of global threat, not one of loki's evil plots against thor
ViperXX79 - 12/9/2010, 8:57 PM
Loki is a global threat.
Ironbat95 - 12/9/2010, 8:59 PM
Can Hulk dent Captain's Shield?
elcaballerooscuro92 - 12/9/2010, 9:02 PM
i know he is a glbal thrat, but i meant a more obvious glbal threat, one that shield would knew about, like an upcoming alien invasion or an hydra related plot, after all there are rumors of baron zemo's son being the villain
TheMyth - 12/9/2010, 9:03 PM
drknight, I have a feeling it's the Hulk SHIELD wants to bring down not knowing Loki is pulling the strings on his latest rampage.

Hulk Buster Armor would be Epic! Cap vs Hulk = greatest shit ever! Thor vs Hulk = just topped greatest shit ever! I hope this has truth.
CaptainOtter - 12/9/2010, 9:06 PM
I want to see Hulk fight the rest of the team at least a little bit, but he is still an avengers. and while loki will be A villain, I get the impression he wont be THE villain.
Scion - 12/9/2010, 9:09 PM
I know it does not go with the timeline but is there any chance we'll see the Hulk Buster Armor?
elcaballerooscuro92 - 12/9/2010, 9:14 PM
well i don't know who the villain is gonna be, and it doesn't matter if its MODOK or Loki or Hydra or the masters of evil or a kree invasion, i'm still gonna go watch the movie and enjoy it as much as the man of steel, the spidey reboot, the dark knight rises, and kung fu panda 2.
Scion - 12/9/2010, 9:19 PM
@Ironbat95 Hulk can definitely dent the shield. It's durable not indestructible. Adamantium has been broken numerous times throughout MCU's timeline.
contrast - 12/9/2010, 9:52 PM
@Scion & @Ironbat95-- but Cap's shield isn't made of adamantium... If I'm not mistaken, adamantium was created when a scientist tried to duplicate the metal Cap's shield is made of... His shield is unique in that it's not "durable", it is indestructable (well, nearly, anyway). The more force applied to the shield, the stronger the bond between the shield's molecules become, thus making the shield become more durable with each hit. The only times it was broken were when the Beyonder screwed around with the molecular alignment; by Molecule Man, who broke it apart on a molecular level; Thor, when powered by the Odinforce, and Thanos, when he was wielding the divine power of the Infinity Gauntlet.

So, no -- The Hulk couldn't put a dent in it.
Scion - 12/9/2010, 9:53 PM
What's it made out of? Adamantium. Not Vibranium anymore right? So if Adamantium has been broken in the past Adamantium will break/bend again. Unless it's special Adamantium.
Scion - 12/9/2010, 9:55 PM
I was always under the impression the constituent element was changed at one time or another.
TheHierophant - 12/9/2010, 9:59 PM
This movie is already teeming with great characters, which is a risky thing to attempt in Hollywood. If they add too many more, the movie could be doomed. But, we'll all know in 2012...
contrast - 12/9/2010, 9:59 PM
@Intruder-- I could buy that Hulk could possibly become angry enough to dent it, because that's all Odenforce-Thor was able to do...
Reasonnnn - 12/9/2010, 10:09 PM
Sweet. Save the Skrulls for future sequels.
CapFanLex005 - 12/9/2010, 10:12 PM
If they can some how pull that off and make it as epic as it sounds, i dont care if it is the $h!tiest movie ever it will be the best thing i have ever seen. and with JW at the helm it will be very very very great
UltimateAvenger - 12/9/2010, 10:13 PM
I would like to see a Ruffalo cameo as Bruce Banner at the end of Thor. And at the End of Cap, Hawkeye and Black Widow should find Cap in the ice. And when the team gets together in the Avengers and Fury is about to tell them why he brought them together, he gets cut off by a sheild agent telling him that the hulk is loose. and once they defeat hulk and loki. Fury says something along the lines of, "This isn't why I brought you together... there is something coming..." and the 2nd avengers movie be a kree/skrull invasion.
IronicMan - 12/9/2010, 10:35 PM
Doesn't sound like much. I'm assuming Thor can take down Loki solo... I was hoping for more of a skrull-based alien invasion plot.
AlexDeLarge87 - 12/9/2010, 10:42 PM
Red Skull and Hydra or Baron Zemo with his group would have been my choice, but this is fine, if its true?

Who would you prefer
Hugo Weaving as Red Skull or Tom Hiddleston as Loki?
jjmeylar - 12/9/2010, 10:46 PM
Who the hell is Gregory Littley?
SkylerMystwood - 12/9/2010, 11:05 PM
I think this is a no-brainer. Notonly does it pay homage to the original Avengers comic, but it eliminates one "good guy," Hulk, and one "bad guy," Loki, from needing origin stories.

Introducing The Skree or any other alien race is best left for the sequel, after all the previous multitudes of characters, good and bad, have already been firmly established.

(Hank, Janet, the building of Ultron, and perhaps even Agent Carlson being revealed as a Skrull secret agent.)
Flop123 - 12/9/2010, 11:22 PM
@skyler - totally agree

Hulk, Loki, and Enchantress = Avengers

Skrull alien invasion = Avengers 2
Paulley - 12/9/2010, 11:43 PM
The recent cartoon series is good at adapting the old series in a more modern setting.. however will the people making the movie want to pretty much copy something that was a cartoon a few years before?
Jeri - 12/10/2010, 12:08 AM
1. Loki/Hulk


2. Clandestine Skrull Invasion


3. The Masters of Evil (Lead by Baron Zemo)

Wild Card: Ultron

Of course The Skrull's could just as easily be exchanged in place of T.M.O.E for a third film, Ultron could take the place of either (The Skrull's or The Masters of Evil) as well; ...or not. However, two of those three are bound to be used in a trilogy, witch two is impossible to know at this point.


Marvel may use Ultron to introduce Hank and Janet (or Hank and Janet to introduce Ultron) in the second film. I have a strange theory when it comes to Hank Pym. Its that he will make his first appearance via a hefty cameo in the third Iron-man film being involved in something to do with the Mandarins alien tech, somehow leading into the construction of Ultron. That could just as easily happen after IM3 in the second "The Avengers" film, but I'm just sayin'.

My fan boy dream is for The Vision to be introduced eventually; if there is indeed a Skrull invasion film. I don't care if he appears without Scarlett Witch, he needs to be a part of The Avengers. Plus, there are plenty of other characters that can take her place to play up the synthetic love angle if they really wanted to (Whedon would be all over that).


Sharon Carter and Mar-Vell would also have to be introduced in the Skrull film being that they're Kree, witch might help expand the cosmic aspect of the Cinematic Universe at that point. Could be interesting, seeing how this whole Cinematic Universe pans out is probably the most entertaining thing about it for me personally.
AVEN - 12/10/2010, 12:48 AM
Good news, as everyone think the twist in this movie will the introduction of the Skrull Invasion that's will be the real reason of the avengers reunion =/
RorMachine - 12/10/2010, 2:59 AM
They probably will be the villains, and I certainly hope they are, but how this dude would know for certain is anyone's guess. I think its more along the lines of a Mark Millar Batman villain tweet!
DarthSpireite - 12/10/2010, 3:22 AM
I like this. If they're planning on going with Loki as the 'main' villain, they must have been really impressed with Hiddlestone's work as the Mischievious One on Thor. Maybe it might make the film easier to deal with for those that only have a passing interest too. If they've got to spend all this time building the team and their relationships, they don't want to be taking half the film to introduce an entirely new bad guy(s), such as Kang or the Skrulls. That would cause a bit of a mess. The comics get issues to plaan that sort of thing and slowly introduce people. Movies don't really have that luxury. Loving the way all this is progressing.
DarthSpireite - 12/10/2010, 3:38 AM
Isn't Caps shield some sort of vibranium alloy?
Seejay - 12/10/2010, 3:50 AM
Thor denting Caps shield :
http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q265/rychehitman/thor/LORD%20THOR/thorvscap01.jpg
http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q265/rychehitman/thor/LORD%20THOR/thorvscap02.jpg

King Thor kills Wolverine and The Hulk
http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/6/69308/1486887-how_thor_lost_his_arm_1_super.png
http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/6/69308/1486889-how_thor_lost_his_arm_3_super.png

A nice tribute thread to Thor
http://forum.newsarama.com/showthread.php?t=101248
DarthSpireite - 12/10/2010, 3:54 AM
@Seejay
I have no scans I'm afraid and not the time to find one but during the King Thor arc there is a great panel where Thor is standing around and on the archway above his head is Caps shield, or, more specifically, what is left of Caps shield as it has a big chunk missing.
Godzillafart - 12/10/2010, 4:07 AM
Nothing would make me happier than a Loki controlled rampaging Hulk battling the Avengers. Bring it on!!!
Godzillafart - 12/10/2010, 4:10 AM
Hey Seejay, what comics are those from?
Rexgabe - 12/10/2010, 4:13 AM
I hope this is true because I would love to see a Thor vs Hulk scene in a high quality live action movie. That would rock.
DarthSpireite - 12/10/2010, 4:17 AM
@Godzillafart
That King Thor stuff runs through 'The Reigning' arc, which goes through Thor (v2) #68-74.
marvel72 - 12/10/2010, 4:24 AM
thor vs hulk would be wicked.
LEEE777 - 12/10/2010, 4:33 AM
This is the only choice for AVENGERS =



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LEEE777 - 12/10/2010, 4:34 AM
No brainer and good to know the guys at AVENGERS have brains!
astromerc - 12/10/2010, 4:35 AM
Well this would fit perfectly. I suspect this is what they where going to do anyway. Because the last seen in the Edward Norton Incredible Hulk is him (supposedly) changing in to the hulk with out any provocation and a very devious smile, which I in turn believed was Loki's possession of the Hulk. I believe leaving that point hanging would be against what Marvel is trying to establish with the continuity.
Darkseidis - 12/10/2010, 5:22 AM
Nice, nice, nice. The whole smirky smile that Banner gave off at the end fits well with this. Not to assume that is what was originally intended, but as previous posters have pointed out, it works well with where things are heading. Godspeed Marvel cinematic universe, good luck.
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