Joss Whedon Weighs In On THE AVENGERS Spider-Man Rumor, HULK Insight, And Easter Eggs

Further dismissing Webhead's appearance in Marvel's superhero assembly, Whedon now discusses The Avengers movie influences, its new take on the Hulk, and avoiding excessive references!

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By DCMarvelFreshman - 3/13/2012


Following earlier coverage, the May 2012 issue of Total Film magazine offered up even more from Marvel's The Avengers helmer Joss Whedon. Now discussing movies that had an influence on the script, potential Easter eggs, and the film's Mark Ruffalo-inspired Incredible Hulk, Whedon also weighs in on the Spidey rumor.

"The first movie I referenced when Marvel asked me what I'd do if they gave me the script was 'The Dirty Dozen," Whedon reveals. "People forgot, but that movie is an hour-and-a-half of training and 20 minutes of Nazi fighting. It helped me to say, you can have time to let these people get to know each other; their conflict can be as interesting as their conflict with the villain." But it was Ridley Scott's 'Black Hawk Down' that really "unlocked" The Avengers. "That's when I realised we needed a war movie. With this many heroes, the only way you can really earn them - earn the idea that they are heroes - is that you put them through a meat grinder."

"This isn't the kind of movie where we're going to wink at the audience," promises Whedon. "There's a great deal of humor and there are a couple of things where people will go, 'Oh!' if they're very into Marvel. Here and there I've thrown references, tiny things I remember [from the comics], but it's not one of those things where you look at and go, 'Oh, that guy and that guy! It's not Where's Waldo?"

"Do I think this is the ultimate Hulk movie? I'm going to tell you I do," says Whedon. "I think what we've done with him is unprecedented and will blow people away." Speaking on Jade Giant's previous outings, Whedon says, "Those are not films I would have made. In the second one he got a [bit] of a ripped surfer look that didn't make sense to me"

Drawing the line on the rumor, sparked by English actress Jenny Agutter, that said Spider-Man will cameo, "There is no Spider-Man in this movie!" declares Joss Whedon. "I feel so bad for Jenny," sighs Whedon. "I think she just slipped on a name and the reporter ran with it. It's not like she goes to Comic-Con every year..."

Special thanks to Megan, just your friendly neighborhood teenage, of Tumblr.


Marvel Studios presents in association with Paramount Pictures “Marvel’s The Avengers”--the super hero team up of a lifetime, featuring iconic Marvel super heroes Iron Man, the Incredible Hulk, Thor, Captain America, Hawkeye and Black Widow. When an unexpected enemy emerges that threatens global safety and security, Nick Fury, Director of the international peacekeeping agency known as S.H.I.E.L.D., finds himself in need of a team to pull the world back from the brink of disaster. Spanning the globe, a daring recruitment effort begins.

Starring Robert Downey, Jr., Chris Evans, Mark Ruffalo, Chris Hemsworth, Scarlett Johansson, Jeremy Renner and Samuel L. Jackson, & directed by Joss Whedon from a screenplay by Joss Whedon, “Marvel’s The Avengers” is based on the ever-popular Marvel comic book series “The Avengers,” first published in 1963 and a comics institution ever since. Prepare yourself for an exciting event movie, packed with action and spectacular special effects, when “Marvel’s The Avengers” assemble on May 4, 2012. The film is distributed by Walt Disney Studios Motion Pictures. In addition to "Marvel's The Avengers," Marvel Studios will release a slate of films based on the Marvel characters including "Iron Man 3" on May 3, 2013!; and “Thor 2” on November 15, 2013.


Source: Total Film
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bbarber2323 - 3/13/2012, 3:17 PM
Sweet!!
Boyle360 - 3/13/2012, 3:18 PM
I agree. The Hulk looked great in The Incredible Hulk, but he has a ridiculous surfer body. Still, it was better than the 2003 movie Hulk.
marvelstudios - 3/13/2012, 3:20 PM
i hope they explain the change in appearance of the hulk from TIH to the avengers
SageMode - 3/13/2012, 3:20 PM
Those are not films I would have made. In the second one he got a [big] of a ripped surfer look that didn't make sense to me"

Hahaha. Agreed.

Everything this guy says make me even more psyched than before.
95 - 3/13/2012, 3:20 PM
This movie will be good. This article cements it.
Benjamitesandwich - 3/13/2012, 3:21 PM
I hope there are Easter eggs like: Ant Man's helmet sitting on a table, a hint at Atlantis, a news report going in the background during a scene showing a blown up car and a dead family (a reference to Drax, Moondragon, and Thanos), and other ones like that.
RunDTC - 3/13/2012, 3:21 PM
Black Hawk Down is a good movie to get inspiration from.
MrRogers - 3/13/2012, 3:22 PM
Sooooo anyone else involved with the avengers wanna do an interview?
Mrcool210 - 3/13/2012, 3:24 PM
when will people get it? spider-man isnt in the movie, joss and andrew garfield have said this several times
HelaGood - 3/13/2012, 3:25 PM
cant wait to be blown away!
KaneVonDoom - 3/13/2012, 3:26 PM
If this movie is even half as good as it's sounding, I hope they keep Joss
QuietStorm - 3/13/2012, 3:27 PM
Black Hawk Down was a great movie. Read the book twice while at West Point. Great movie and even great book!
MoodyMonkey - 3/13/2012, 3:27 PM
For me the only credible hulk is still Lou, the others just looked like video game characters (in a bad way). but i have faith in Whedon.
MoodyMonkey - 3/13/2012, 3:29 PM
@Tea

LMFAO!
JazzBebopHero - 3/13/2012, 3:31 PM
Hulk was awesome in "The Incredible Hulk." I liked the ripped look. But I also like this new look that Hulk has in The Avengers. I'm glad to hear that this will be the ultimate Hulk movie. Excellent news!!!
ralfinader - 3/13/2012, 3:43 PM
Ang Lee's Hulk sucked (I do not think the man actually ever read a Hulk comic or even saw a cartoon or the great Bixby/Ferrigno series). I actually threw the DVD away when I got The Incredible Hulk. But from what I have seen so far of The Avengers, I am digging the new look (but will not throw away the Ed Norton Hulk when Avengers get released to DVD/BluRay).

Also, I will not need any explanation for why he appears different than he did in 2008, the same way I didn't need an explanation for why Roger Moore didn't look like Sean Connery.
TheGambitFreakIsBatmanOfCBM - 3/13/2012, 3:45 PM
^ Nice Ultimates cover hint.



And this as inspiration?



Win Much?
marvel72 - 3/13/2012, 3:49 PM
i liked the incredible hulk,so far its had the best action of any marvel studio's film.

whedon will be taking the hulk to the next level in the avengers.
marvel72 - 3/13/2012, 3:50 PM
@ dudeguyman

that is a great poster,abit like the ultimates cover.

i like it.
SageMode - 3/13/2012, 3:51 PM
DRAX94

I really hate how he direspect TIH, it was a great movie imo, probably my favorite Marvel movie...I I really like the design of the Hulk in this movie, and I find weird how he seem to say that it's a bad movie (specially because he is in the same continuity that The Avengers and done by the same studio)...I'm really disappointed by this Whedon comment.


He wasn't dissing the movie, he's just saying the way the Hulk was in INCREDIBLE HULK was not the way he would've done it, he didn't say that movie sucked.
TheGambitFreakIsBatmanOfCBM - 3/13/2012, 3:53 PM
ralfinader That wasn't Lee's fault, that was Marvel's. Ang Lee is a drama/suspense director, his movies are psychological and emotional, then Marvel realized that and falsely marketed the Hulk as a action movie, which pertained to the movie's downfall. But as an emotional movie, it was awesome, very character driven story.
TheGambitFreakIsBatmanOfCBM - 3/13/2012, 4:00 PM
tea And by rape, you mean like a big, heavy breathing one right.....


;)
Hawksblueyes - 3/13/2012, 4:00 PM
As much as I hate to toot my own horn (not that horn tea), I remember way back when this film was announced, eeeeeverybody complaining that you couldn't have this many big actors and characters in one movie and have it worth watching. Of course I was the first one to mention The Dirty Dozen and Magnificent Seven as proof and inspiration that it could be done very well.

Maybe I should be making more money. ;P
headlopper - 3/13/2012, 4:05 PM
THE MONEY QUOTE:

"Do I think this is the ultimate Hulk movie? I'm going to tell you I do," says Whedon. "I think what we've done with him is unprecedented and will blow people away."-Joss Whedon

My anticipation for this movie has just went to A.WHOLE.NUTHA'.LEVEL!
Giraffehead - 3/13/2012, 4:06 PM
I'm really confused as to how you saw The Incredible Hulk as a better movie Than Captain America and Thor. There were many elements of TIH that just made me groan. Mostly when the Hulk was on the screen, which is when you should be most excited. I felt like the movie flowed well enough but was never truly interesting.
Optimus83 - 3/13/2012, 4:06 PM
more Easter Eeggs. ...¿¿¿Miss Marvel, Spider-Man, Who???
headlopper - 3/13/2012, 4:08 PM
...btw, does the "blow people away" have anything to do with Scarjo? Such pretty lips.
RidiculousFanBoyDemands - 3/13/2012, 4:09 PM
This guy apparently doesn't like any comic book movies that have come before. He has yet to say anything positive about the previous Marvel movies, or comic book movies in general. It just seems every interview he is taking little digs at comic book movies that have proceeded this one. I dig his confidence, but I hope it doesn't come back to bite him in the ass.
GUNSMITH - 3/13/2012, 4:09 PM
IT DID SEE A BIT TOO MUCH RIPPLE, AND HE DIDN'T REALLY DO AS MUCH SUPER LEAPS..IT WAS LIKE PARKOUR MORE THAN LEAPS..


MUCH BETTER JOSS..
mgeoff88 - 3/13/2012, 4:09 PM
Ultimate Hulk movie? That's sounds [frick]ing awesome.

I thought TIH was very good. I really liked Edward Norton as Bruce Banner. I was disappointed we never got a sequel.

@DudeGuyMan I said your poster was just "pretty cool" before. I think it's much better than that. It's awesome! :)

@teabag I did notice his looks changed in every scene.

I also found it kind of weird that they tried to make Hulk look handsome. Did those guys ever read a Hulk comic?

I don't agree with the movie needing a revamp. But I like that the Hulk looks more like the comic book version now. :)
Giraffehead - 3/13/2012, 4:11 PM
@TheGambitFreak

I have to admit, though the movie was jumpy and the multiple camera angles didn't work as often as he employed them, I enjoyed Ang Lee's Hulk more than The Incredible Hulk.
GUNSMITH - 3/13/2012, 4:12 PM

GUNSMITH - 3/13/2012, 4:16 PM
MY KIDS FELL ASLEEP IN THE ANG LEE HULK..
GUNSMITH - 3/13/2012, 4:19 PM
THE APPEAL OF RDJ'S TONY STARK...
Giraffehead - 3/13/2012, 4:19 PM
@Tea

I understand the different perspectives, I'm not trying to argue which is better, just understand what people liked about it.

Thor had much better emotion in my opinion. Loki, Odin, and Thor all really seemed to be larger than life. The movie didn't flow very well, but I enjoyed it for the power of those characters.

Captain America brought a much better flow and another great villain. I really fell for little Steve and the humor was right on, again in my opinion.

The Incredible Hulk seemed like a watered down Iron Man movie. They hit all the right marks but I was never invested in Banner(and I really like Edward Norton). The beginning was interesting but like I said the Hulk scenes didn't make sense to me (especially him growling at lightning.)
luffycapri - 3/13/2012, 4:21 PM
no spiderman but what about petter parker or the black spiderman miles
GUNSMITH - 3/13/2012, 4:26 PM
JOSS IS GOOD WITH CHARACTERS, HE IS A GEEK LIKE US SO I'M VERY PSYCHED ABOUT WHAT HIS TAKE ON THE HULK IS...

Devastator335 - 3/13/2012, 4:26 PM
It would be cool if Spidey was in it; I'm really impressed on how they made Hulk. I liked how he looked in the Incredible Hulk, but I believe he'll do just fine in the Avengers.
Giraffehead - 3/13/2012, 4:41 PM
@Teabag

I also disliked Roth's character, along with William Hurt's. I guess that doesn't make a villain for me. The whole standing in front of the Hulk while the Hulk kicks him into a tree 50 yards away doesn't really scream great villain.
marvel72 - 3/13/2012, 4:46 PM
@ Azazel1

its william hurt not john hurt.
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