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Marvel's Title Ruse Revealed For CAPTAIN AMERICA: THE WINTER SOLDIER

Scheduled for temporary use during the sequel's production, the working title for Captain America: The Winter Soldier has been revealed + a word on the screen test of a recent cast addition.

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By DCMarvelFreshman - 10/30/2012


Marvel Studios made the announcement last month that they're returning to Cleveland, Ohio, to commence principal photography for their forthcoming Captain America: The Winter Soldier movie. While also expected to shoot partly in Washington, DC and New Mexico, don't expect to the actual movie title to be used once filming does actually start next year, in March.

And like all major productions, and Marvel's past flicks, a temporary name or production title will be used to disguise The Winter Soldier's development. And according to Feature Film Casting, whose legitimacy seems dependable only when it comes to new productions starting out, “Freezerburn” has been decided for the Captain America sequel's working title. Special thanks to @Jasper_UTF.

Seemingly an offhand nod to the film's subtitle, “Freezerburn” follows title ruses like Thor: The Dark World's “Thursday Mourning,” Iron Man 3's “Caged Heat,” Marvel's The Avengers's “Group Hug,” and the original Captain America movie's “Frostbite.” Anyhow, the film's cast was recently rounded out by End of Watch actor Frank Grillo, whose screen test “made the other actors look like extras,” according to ‘a friend of a friend’ of The A-Team director, Joe Carnahan.



Described as a political thriller, Marvel Studios’ “Captain America: The Winter Soldier” will pick-up where the highly anticipated film “Marvel’s The Avengers” leaves off, as Steve Rogers continues his affiliation with Nick Fury and the peacekeeping organization S.H.I.E.L.D, and struggles to embrace his role in the modern world. Starring Chris Evans, Sebastian Stan, Anthony Mackie, Frank Grillo, Cobie Smulders with Scarlett Johansson and Samuel L. Jackson, “Captain America: The Winter Soldier” is directed by Anthony Russo and Joe Russo from a screenplay by Christopher Markus and Stephen McFeely and is based on Marvel's classic Super Hero Captain America, who first appeared on the pages of “Captain America Comics” (#1) in March, 1941. “Captain America: The Winter Soldier” is presented by Marvel Studios. Marvel Studios’ President Kevin Feige is producing & Louis D’Esposito, Victoria Alonso & Stan Lee are executive producers. The film releases August 1, 2014, & is distributed by Walt Disney Studios Motion Pictures.
Source: Feature Film Casting
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Killuminatic - 10/30/2012, 7:07 AM
Man this guy's gonna be great as Crossbones... I saw End of Watch last week and wow; I'll be honest, I'm not familiar with Frank's work so I didn't know he was playing Sarge till I saw the credits/imdb. Some solid piece of acting there, he put a sense of realism and extended what the movie already had.
KaneVonDoom - 10/30/2012, 7:08 AM
This Cap movie has a lot going for it. Hope the Russo Bros nail it with all the potential this has.
ClaireLannister2016 - 10/30/2012, 7:14 AM
Can't wait. Now...bring on more casting news and some concept art :)
Hulksmash77 - 10/30/2012, 7:16 AM
I've been waiting for a present-day cap movie for a long time. I really hope this pulls through...if so, it could be the best of Phase 2
Mercwitham0uth - 10/30/2012, 7:22 AM
@Gambit89

I have a strong feeling the Clint will be involved in this sequel. Seems like S.H.I.E.L.D. is going to play a major role in this anyway.
IgnurRant - 10/30/2012, 7:23 AM
This Movie sounds like a convoluted mess aka the next IM2. Bucky’s importance to Cap’s psyche was already underplayed and the impact of his death as well as the scene glossed over, you think they would keep the focus on him w/o all this unnecessary sub plots. We are in store for an under developed Falcon. An under developed An underdeveloped Sharon Carter. An under developed CrossBones. And under developed Main Antagonist.

It would be wiser to save Bucky’s return for Cap 3 and develop a strong relationship between Falcon and Cap first. Then have Bucky return in full anger in vengeance mode. Or we can throw everything in the pot at once and call it gumbo.
Hulksmash77 - 10/30/2012, 7:26 AM
I like gumbo
Pretty much anything a Cajun cook puts his hands too is good.
Gambit would know.
Avengers52 - 10/30/2012, 7:27 AM
I don't think it's accurate to say that he ROUNDED OUT the cast. Far from it. They still haven't cast Sharon Carter and there's still a villain role up for grabs between Josh Holloway and Nikolaj Coster-Waldau with Waldau the frontrunner and the role is rumored to be Baron Zemo. And considering Crossbones has been cast its logical to say Sin might get cast soon as we'll.
fettastic - 10/30/2012, 7:31 AM
When I applied to be an extra on Batman Begins in Chicago, it was shooting under "The Intimidation Game", which I still think is a badass title.

I didn't get the gig though, possibly because when they asked how I heard about the cattle call, I said "Batman on film dot com", and the casting agent was visibly irritated by that. More likely it was because I live in Madison, WI.

They did call me back 3 years later though and I ended up being an extra in The Express with Dennis Quade (though I was only there for 2nd unit shooting).

I was actually scheduled for 5 days of shooting but after 2 days I was exhausted and broke so I returned home. Possibly if I had stayed the full 5 days I could have been invited back as an extra on TDK because at that point they had shot the car park scenes and were returning like a month later to shoot the rest, starting with Joker's bank robbery.
johnblake - 10/30/2012, 7:40 AM
someone tell me how im2 sucked. oh you cant cause it didnt. i dont know why people complain about im2 it was great
1ncredibleJ0C - 10/30/2012, 7:55 AM
i wanna see Wonder Man have ties into Phase 2 Tigra too Hawkeye should be in this film CA Trained Most of the Avengers how to fight
Killuminatic - 10/30/2012, 8:00 AM
I for one, actually enjoyed IM 2. But I can understand why some of you didn't think fond of it... I can go with that. But with Phase 2, seeing as Marvel's going all out, you know they'll be upping there game.

The problem with some of the Phase 1 movies were basically the character development, which was imo affected by the run time, and you could all agree with me. Also, the action sequences felt alright but we were left wanting more! They were so anti-climactic. I hope to to be seeing some spectacular action sequences in this and the rest of the Phase 2 movies, please don't dissapoint Marvel.

We're so lucky to be getting this storyline up on the big screen, although I also kinda agree that it should've been hinted through this but fully unravelled in the third movie. But hey, this is gonna be an epic ride. You can't imagine how excited I am. Hopefully we'll have a longer run-time, a very strong script; and I mean VERY... You know this is gonna be full of twists and turns, oh and with flashback sequences - we'll get a more fleshed out Steve/Bucky relationship. Oh and did I mention action sequences??? This is Captain America for God's sake.
Killuminatic - 10/30/2012, 8:02 AM
If Hawkeye isn't in this, they'll probably resolve the issue with a tie in comic, just like the War Machine issue between The Avengers and IM 3.
fettastic - 10/30/2012, 8:10 AM
Nope, IM2 sucked. First off, the villain is weak as shit. Somehow Whiplash turns evil engineering genius....because he's pissed? What was the deal with the parrot? Why did he want the parrot? Was it his parrot or not? Why was he walking around without shoes on? How the hell did he know Stark was going to spontaneously decide to drive in the race? Stark's best friend just ups and STEALS his suit? Yeah, that's not a violation of character! Then the movie becomes out SHEILD instead of Iron Man! Then Stark Sr. figured out perpetual energy, but decided to hide it inside an obscure model and hope that someday Tony would grow up and be looking at it and figure it out. And this happens precisely when if he doesn't get another power supply he's going to die! Oh and it culminates with Iron Man yet again fighting a guy in a version of his armor and he somehow locates Pepper just as the building's about to explode.
IgnurRant - 10/30/2012, 8:17 AM
HulkSmash77

Gumbo is awesome. I was born in Louisiana. Gambit is my favorite character. Imagine my horror upon seeing Wolverine Origins. lol. THE HORROR!!
Maxi91291 - 10/30/2012, 8:19 AM
im with you johnblake
mattattack - 10/30/2012, 8:20 AM
@fettastic

Yeah IM2 was balls. IM3 looks stellar though!!!
teabag - 10/30/2012, 8:24 AM
I love herpes..gives me another excuse to play with my junk

Love Cap this one is shaping up nicely :P
IgnurRant - 10/30/2012, 8:31 AM
Lol. IM2 didn't suck? Half baked ideas not fully fleshed out. Clichè friend vs friend fight. Forced SHIELD sub-plot. One note villains. Boring villains. Another robot fight.

I can go on but you can read any of many reviews or one ofthe apologies Faverau, Feige and RDJ have made concerning that film.
mattattack - 10/30/2012, 8:31 AM
Other reasons IM2 sucked;

1. Corny ass jokes. For example: At the end when Tony and Pepper kiss on the roof and then they see war machine sitting next to them looking super unintimidating- they tell him to go find another roof and he says "i got here first" and they all laugh. SHITTY.

2. It gets boring in the 2nd act!! Tony gets sad and buys strawberries? Seriously? He stares at Natasha when hes in Peppers office with an AH-HA! You are black widow! look on his face. BEATING A DEAD HORSE. He then conveniently creates a new element just in time to go stop Hammer and Whiplash.

3. Black Widow. She sucked in this. Joss made her much more multi dimensional and actually KICK ASS in Avengers. In this, she had stupid curly hair and her fight moves werent impressive and was poorly shot as well.

4. The movie should have been called IM2: We are really trying to just set up The Avengers.
mattattack - 10/30/2012, 8:32 AM
@Ignurant

hitting the nail on the head my friend.
Otter2269 - 10/30/2012, 8:35 AM
IM2 was definitely lacking and poorly put together, but I thought it was on the same level as Cap. The first Cap was lame.
Maxi91291 - 10/30/2012, 8:49 AM
IM2 was cool and Cap2 will also be
fettastic - 10/30/2012, 8:51 AM
WOAH! They just changed the icon on the header. The guy in the cape above "comicbookmovie.com" is gone!
KaneVonDoom - 10/30/2012, 8:52 AM
One of Cap's main characteristics is that he's a master strategist and a strong strong leader, and people are complaining that there's other characters in the movie for him to lead? Complain after we've seen something from it.

IM2 was still good but there was definitely areas where it was very much lacking and other parts that were kinda forced. I'm sure Marvel has learned from it's mistakes and will improve.
UniBeam11 - 10/30/2012, 8:53 AM
ManOfSuperguy is just a DC fanboy looking to parade behind a Superman movie that has virtually no details yet. Get off the thread dude. We're all looking forward to watching 45 mins of a Superman movie where nothing happens and then a 5 minute showdown that hopefully makes up for the extremely static movie. Christ, if you didnt like the movies then thats fine, but dont come on here bagging on a movie that isnt even fully cast yet.

Anyways, I am truly looking forward to this film because the Winter Soldier arc was extremely well done and it really made me appreciate the character of Steve Rogers on a whole new level. This movie will hopefully be the definitive Cap movie.

@Fettastic
I am going to attempt to answer your questions about IM2 seeing as how you must need everything completely spelled out for you...Whiplash was an engineer, they established that. He knew physics and chemistry, they attempted to make him the antithesis of Tony Stark, "the other side of the coin" it transcended from father to son. So that is explained. The Parrot was all he had left, it was a sentimental possession that gave the character a certain "likeability" factor to help relate and humanize the character. Not many people want to watch a villain they cant somehow empathize with. And who cares about being barefoot? Why is that an issue? Why not ask why Stark doesnt always wear a suit? Are you always wearing shoes? Jesus, talk about nitpicking. He didnt know stark was going to enter the race, he just knew that his company was sponsoring their own racecar and knew that Stark would be there to watch, as was in the press release. And yeah, when Rhodey became war Machine, he first stole Stark's suit because Stark was too drunk to be IronMan and RHodey took over as IronMan before Stark made him his own armor. So that was actually pretty accurate if you know your comics. The movie did not become about SHIELD over IronMan either. They were attempting to expand the universe and seeing how IronMan was their most successful outing by that point it was only the logical progression of story to incorporate more of SHIELD into it in the foreground so people wouldnt be wondering what the hell was up with this global taskforce that just appeared all of a sudden, it was given depth. Yeah, the overall story may have suffered in part due to this but it was also necessary unless they had made an individual SHIELD film. Which at that point didnt have enough gravitas to do well at all, it would have been a failure, sometimes sacrifices have to be made. What you dipshits who complain all the time dont think about is how bad would the Avengers have been without the set up in IM2? Yeah, it would have made no sense and had needless exposition added to an already staggering 2 and a half hour film. No one would have sat through that. So it was a necessary evil in order to set up the ultimate dream for us Fans, GET OVER IT! Howard also didnt "hide" perpetual energy, he said he was limited by the technology of his time. He couldnt do anything with it and instead of someone else figuring it out he left it up to his son who he knew was a genius. The kid graduated from MIT at 17. So, that makes sense to me...yeah it took some investigating but Howard Starks files were all SHIELD property and so if he had just spelled it out it would have been someone else to discover it and with the whole Arc reactor and talk of the energy race dwarfing the arms race, it had its place in the film. And since the new element was already rooted in the Arc Reactor technology, it seems appropriate that it would save Tony's life because he used that tech once already to save his life. Kind of the whole theme behind Tony/IronMan being a hero. Also, i will refer you back to the comics to see how often people are trying to rip off stark's inventions to best him at his own game, again, a very prominent theme in the IronMan lore. The saving Pepper thing cant be fully explained but its cinematic conventions dude, get over it. Nit pick all you want, tell me your favorite film and i can just as easily rip it apart, any film can be ripped apart when someone like you needs everything spoonfed to them in order to understand a movie. [frick]ing whiners.


Crossbones - 10/30/2012, 8:54 AM
Captain America: The First Avenger and Iron Man 2 are the two under rated comicbook movies in Phase One. While Iron Man 2 is the weakest of the movies Marvel Studios has made so far, it's still pretty damn good. Captain America was and still is my favorite Phase One solo film. While the final battle wasn't all that great, I thought the rest of the movie was fricking amazing. I really enjoyed it. Alot of people thought it was bland, I honestly don't see how. You had strong performances, a solid script, a good villain and a good story. Alot of people probably were expecting more spectacle or something. I like how it wasn't full of spectacle. It had the romance, the battle scenes and the origin of Captain America. I thought it was really good.

Captain America: The Winter Soldier, Iron Man 3 and The Avengers 2 are my most anticipted movies that Marvel has announced. If you put them in order, it goes: The Avengers 2, Captain America: The Winter Soldier and Iron Man 3. I think they'll do a good job with Cap 2. No one was expecting The Incredible Hulk and Iron Man to be as good as they were because of who they had directing them. The director of Elf for Iron Man? Yea, Iron Man surprised alot of people and Louis Leterrier with Hulk, I felt was another surprise. Transporter director for Hulk? Interesting choice but not sure if he fits. Proved wrong again. I think the Russo bros. will do a good job with the film.

Crossbones is my favorite Captain America villain, can't wait to see him kick major ass.
UniBeam11 - 10/30/2012, 9:03 AM
@Lizard
I can see why some people, mainly comicbook enthusiasts, didnt enjoy Cap as much as they hoped to. I Loved the movie, dont get me wrong, but i wasnt satisfied with the Red Skull. The one thing that always takes a CBM from Good to Great is the villain. Depending on how well done the villain is it ups the ante for the Hero. While Cap was spot on (although i would have liked to see maybe a few more moves and fight combos to really express the super soldier in him, how he moves faster, stronger and more agile than any other human) but Red Skull was flat. He was too easily bested for one of the greatest masterminds in the Marvel Universe. Skull is calculating, a genius and always two steps ahead with his back pocket full of contingency plans. He was just a little 2 dimensional and imo i think that is the reason Weaving doesnt want to come back. He didnt make Cap a better hero, Cap was a great hero but he didnt do what guys like Magic Johnson and Larry Bird did in basketball. They made the people around them play better! They made everyone around them step up their game! That's what a villain needs to do for a hero. Especially in an origin story, to test the will and limits of a hero.
StrangerX - 10/30/2012, 9:07 AM
So far I'm liking the cast
UniBeam11 - 10/30/2012, 9:17 AM
@Cipher
Good to see you as always! And thank you for understanding where i am coming from with Skull. I love the Skull's comicbook counterpart, but the movie version just didnt land for me. I loved him in the winter soldier, red menace and death of Cap stories, he was amazing! I never knew where he was going with it. So the whole time in the movie i was waiting to seem some master plan unravel and it never did. Also, idk if you read my comment to fettastic but i hope it didnt put anyone else off, just cant stand people who rip apart movies, especially for bogus reasons.
PhetVanBurton - 10/30/2012, 9:19 AM
just an observation, the film opens Apr/4/2014, not Aug/1 :)
toco89 - 10/30/2012, 9:21 AM
Red Skull wasn't bad at all compared to Evans's Cap. All of you are supporting Cap which I understand cuz he's a great character, but all of you know that Evans was miscast. Even if he IS putting effort into it, he's just not Cap.

He doesn't even remind me of him. Thankfully it was in the title and he was wearing the suit. Perfect Storm though.
Maxi91291 - 10/30/2012, 9:23 AM
@Cipher

Hi, Im good,thanks fot asking :) my semester started so I dont come here as often as I used to. How about you ? anything new ?
toco89 - 10/30/2012, 9:24 AM
@unibeam

Does he say superior tactics or superior tech?
Crossbones - 10/30/2012, 9:26 AM
@toco89: I don't find Evans to be miscast as Cap. I thought he was really good as the character. People will always have an opinion on who they feel could've done it better. While I was skeptical at first about the casting, the movie showed his ability to act in dramatic type of roles and I think he did really good in the role. Hopefully, he will show more emotion in the character in Captain America: The Winter Soldier.
DioFoRio - 10/30/2012, 9:29 AM
I'm about as excited for the Captain America sequel as I am to get herpes. - ManofSuperguy



So you're super Stoked then right!?!?!? Cuz at least if you get herpes someone will finally believe you had sex...only thing is people will have an easier time believing you got into Captain America for free....but we all know you'll have a reciept for the sex .ha ha ha fuggin retard.LOL
DioFoRio - 10/30/2012, 9:32 AM
@toco..I think it's Tech he says
jimpinto24 - 10/30/2012, 9:33 AM
I'm pumped for CA:TWS!
UniBeam11 - 10/30/2012, 9:41 AM
@Taco
i dont know what you're referring to about the superior tech/tactics. Enlighten me? Dionysios seems to know. But as for Evans being cast as Cap; when i first heard it wasnt my first choice by far but it was a huge sigh of relief when i heard he was cast over [frick]ing channing tatum! i would have boycotted that movie. Signs and all! But he blew me away, he captured the character perfectly. I'm sorry to say that because i know we disagree but it took me less than a minute to buy into him as Steve Rogers and Cap is one of my favorite characters. So, although he doesnt remind me physically of Cap, he captured the spirit and essence of what makes up Cap/Steve Rogers perfectly. I mean they dont all need to look exactly like the comicbook counterparts. And I think it showed that Evans has a range none of us were aware of, i completely separated him from the Human Torch in my mind with his Cap performance, not even the same person lol But to each his own.
DioFoRio - 10/30/2012, 9:44 AM
@Uni...I think he means what Iron Man says in the video games..."Unibeam!Unibeam!Superior TECH!"...think thats what he's referring to
UniBeam11 - 10/30/2012, 9:44 AM
@Cipher
Yeah dude, no kidding! He is a bastard, he wanted a son so he decided to kill his daughter. So, the movie version did gloss over a lot, Red Skull and Doc Doom (my favorite villain if you cant tell from my fan fic lol) are very similar in their quest for power and the lengths they will go to obtain it, even if it means siding with a mortal enemy. Thats what makes them so dimensional and complex, they arent completely evil but theyre not good either. Hell Doom helped out heroes during the infinity gauntlet, but he always has his motives. And good to hear about you and your girlfriend(sorry, eavesdropped) but good luck man! I did that with my girl back in 2010 and it only lasted a semester, couldnt stand each other afterwards! Luckily we're still together but just didnt wanna do the live together thing again lol not for a while anyways ;)
UniBeam11 - 10/30/2012, 9:46 AM
@Dionysios
Bring me my wine! lol But ooooooh ok, you're talking like the MVC2 games and what not? Superior tech is what he says im pretty sure.
Maxi91291 - 10/30/2012, 9:46 AM
@Cipher
Im glad to hear that. Take care too :)



Man all these Cap news are making me wanna re-read the Vol. 5 comics all over again
DioFoRio - 10/30/2012, 9:48 AM
@Unibeam...I had no fear that Chris Evans could play a serious Cap. The guy is a great comedic actor but has range ex-SUNSHINE...my concern was that the writers would Capitalize on his funny side (pun intended) like the writers for Green Lantern did...Reynolds could've been serious but the writers sucked dick on that one.
dezdigi - 10/30/2012, 9:49 AM
While a lot of the Marvel movies were far from perfect, I believe the criticism is a little harsh. IM 2 is probably the weakest of the bunch but was still a fun movie. Cap 2 was lacking in certain areas, but as one commenter already said, they had to set these characters up and that took a lot of the running time.
I'm looking forward to Phase 2. This could be the best of the bunch. It definitely has the potential to be. Let's look to the future people!
DioFoRio - 10/30/2012, 9:49 AM
LOL@ Uni...I'll bring the wine you bring the revelry
DioFoRio - 10/30/2012, 9:50 AM
@Dez..yeah I don't get the outright hate for IM2...It wasn't a shitty movie by any means... I actually really like it(not as much as other marvel films) but I just consider it a weak "issue" if that.
dezdigi - 10/30/2012, 9:55 AM
Considering what they did to set up the Avengers in the amount of time they had, I think it was a success. And yeah, I realize each movie should be able to stand on its own and not just part of a greater series. I guess that's how I've come to view these films now that Phase 1 is complete. Sort of like a big collection of films rather than separate franchises.
DioFoRio - 10/30/2012, 9:55 AM
My only concern for this flick is the Russos
dezdigi - 10/30/2012, 9:58 AM
I'm trying not to dwell on that too much. I'm excited for the other directors though and I hope they find a way to connect Phase 2 without taking away from either film the way it did in IM 2.
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