Joss Whedon Vaguely On Prepping For S.H.I.E.L.D. Pilot And THE AVENGERS Sequel

Mostly rehashing on the record-shattering box office success of The Avengers grand assembly, writer-director Joss Whedon offers fairly brief updates on the 2015 sequel & Marvel's S.H.I.E.L.D. pilot.

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By DCMarvelFreshman - 12/26/2012
Chatting exclusively with The Playlist about his acclaimed cinematic take on Shakespeare's Much Ado About Nothing, Joss Whedon barely discussed his highly-anticipated Marvel endeavors. While comparing Much Ado to The Avengers and sharing thoughts on the superhero assembly's success, the filmmaker did offer vague, but promising, updates for the 2015 sequel and S.H.I.E.L.D. pilot.

“There's been enormous progress. We are trundling along, I can't share much. And by much I mean anything. I can say that "S.H.I.E.L.D" came together in a very organic way. And part of my taking "Avengers 2" was that I'd have the opportunity to work in the Marvel universe. I didn't exactly know I'd be running a TV show five minutes later. Yeah, but it's something I really believe in. Although, "Avengers" is the top of my list of exciting new things, "S.H.I.E.L.D." is really talking to me.”

“You know, [The Avengers' success] is lovely. I like a big round number. For years I've only said, "Look, trust me and I will make you money." I have respect for the business, for the fact that these people have made a great investment in me. But sometimes people make a great investment in you, and still not give you that trust. And then you can't, and then they cancel "Firefly." [laughs] And then for them to give me that much trust, and that much support, and for it to work for them and me and the audience -- for it to tap something because clearly it's greater than some of its parts.”

“You know, it's not a perfect film, but it seems to have tapped into a need, and that's more exciting then -- making a perfect little jewel. It's just hitting somebody in the gut, in a nice way. Kissing them in the gut? No, that sounds awful. But I have to say, there is not a number that can make me feel the way I felt during the screening of this, of "Much Ado," when the audience all got on their feet at the end. And I'm not saying I might have shed a tear, it's probably something I ate.”


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TheHawkWithin - 12/26/2012, 9:50 AM
first?
TheRedSkull - 12/26/2012, 10:38 AM
End of the day, the guy did a top notch job on the film and managed to pull off something people thought impossible without failure. Marvel has every right to trust in him for future projects
LEEE777 - 12/26/2012, 10:40 AM
Yup AVENGERS best movie of the year, nothing else came close!

Looking forward to the sequel and that S.H.I.L.D pilot... ya never know, might have a Punisher cameo or DD in it (the series) - hope so or characters never hit the screen!

Please HANK & JAN in the AVENGERS 2 yo :P
jazzman - 12/26/2012, 10:48 AM
@LEEE777

WTF where have u been bro. u had a good xmas
Fogs - 12/26/2012, 10:53 AM
hehe My "non comicbook" friends (and wife) got crazy when watching avengers and saw it multiple times (usually I'm the one who does that). No wonder it grossed so much.
Shamo - 12/26/2012, 11:05 AM
best movie of the year. bar none.
thewonderer - 12/26/2012, 11:12 AM
I was actually really disappointed with this one upon reflection.

I can't watch it anymore, the first hour is just boring.

But, the last hour is just brilliant. The final 30 mins being the best action set piece I've ever seen in a movie.

Overall, good job Whedon. But now that we know the concept is possible, try to make it a better movie along side comic character accuracy.

unknownfacts - 12/26/2012, 11:33 AM
So basically no new info just another wait and see what the future holds.Mr.Whedon next interview bring concept art of sheild agents gadgets and/or uniforms or a trailer tease of the show.
SageMode - 12/26/2012, 11:55 AM
That's why Whedon gets alotta respect from the CBC. He listens to the fans, instead of being dismissive to the source material all in order to tell the story how THEY want to tell it. He turned a concept that could've easily been a failure of a movie into arguably the most quintessential CBM ever.

THEWONDERER
"But now that we know the concept is possible, try to make it a better movie along side comic character accuracy."


You are one of the most dense people on this site. Try reading some Avengers comic books for a change. And what is so non-iconically inaccurate about the Avengers?
ATrueHero1987 - 12/26/2012, 11:57 AM
@Nomis If he was to ever do an X-Men film...maannn!! Makes we want to read his Astonishing X-Men fun again.lol Wasn't he close to doing X-Men: The Last Stand??
Egan - 12/26/2012, 12:20 PM
@Nomis and his run on The Runaways was dam good too!

If Joss would maybe do a short 6 episode season based on The Runaways, I would give me left nut for it.
ATrueHero1987 - 12/26/2012, 12:21 PM
@Nomis meant to say "run" not "fun".lol Anyway, yea he was offered The Last Stand but that was around the time when was trying to get Wonder Woman movie off the ground.

Here's a pic just for the heck of it.
ATrueHero1987 - 12/26/2012, 12:23 PM
@MARVELPSYCHO79 I wouldn't pay that too much attention. He must've been popping mollys or something to have made that statement,lol.
superotherside - 12/26/2012, 1:10 PM
Bring it on.
RamonSuarez - 12/26/2012, 2:54 PM
Whedon rules. The only CBM filmmaker to actually break new ground last year. The Amazing Spiderman was the most derivative origin story I've seen in a long time. Chronicle was just a rip off of previous overrated first person/POV gimmicks like Blair Witch Project and Cloverfield. The Dark Knight Rises, for all of its strengths, still obeyed the standard conventions of a typical Hollywood trilogy.

The Avengers actually did something no other producer than Kevin Fiege thought was possible - it combined separate franchises together into a coherent crossover film. Rather than retread old ground like TASM, bank upon POV gimmickry like Chronicle, or conclude its protagonist's story like TDKR the Avengers fleshed out an entire new universe for movie audiences to explore. Now Fox and DC-Warner are rushing to build upon the formula he pioneered. And this why Avengers is the best CBM of 2012.
thewonderer - 12/26/2012, 2:56 PM
@Sagemode
Admittingly, I have not read MANY Avengers comic books, but I've done enough research to know The Avengers, in terms of story, was only based LOOSELY on any actual comic story. Very loosely.

Why? Why loosely? Are those stories terrible now? Loki under Thanos never happened in the comics.

Whedon nails the characters alright, the comic story accuracy is nonexistent
thewonderer - 12/26/2012, 3:02 PM
@RamonSuarez

I agree with most of what you said about Avengers, aside from best CBM of 2012 (I think its TDKR), Chronicle, and all you said about TDKR.

TDKR broke new ground by actually ending a trilogy. No other CBM franchise closed upon every theme and set up it established beforehand. Its a narrative story from start to finish.

The tone set by Nolans Batman films is such an inspiration. Skyfall, Star Trek Into Darkness, Planet of the Apes, all are heavily inspired by Nolans Batman and the list keeps going.

The MCU, by the looks of it, will never have a proper conclusion. A shame, but the interlocking stories leaves way for another kind of brilliance.


Also, whats with the hate of Chronicle. I actually think Chronicle is the only CBM since Cloverfield to actually justify a cam view. I loved Chronicle, very serious movie about the consequences of having superpowers. Like Unbreakable.

While Avengers is pretty revolutionary, crossovers have been done before, terribly, mind you. Things like Freddy Vs. Jason or Alien Vs. Predator.

On this scale, Whedon achieved something magnificent though.
Jollem - 12/26/2012, 3:04 PM
the avengers was the funnest cbm of the year
SageMode - 12/26/2012, 3:46 PM
THEWONDERER
"@Sagemode
Admittingly, I have not read MANY Avengers comic books, but I've done enough research to know The Avengers, in terms of story, was only based LOOSELY on any actual comic story. Very loosely.

Why? Why loosely? Are those stories terrible now? Loki under Thanos never happened in the comics.

Whedon nails the characters alright, the comic story accuracy is nonexistent."


Oh yeah, like how Loki was the very first supervillain the Avengers fought as a team in their first incarnation? Or how Loki manipulated the situation to where the Hulk was on a rampage of fighting the Avengers? Or the Chitauri invasion from the Ultimates?

Just like ever director of a comic book movie, he used story plot elements from multiple stories in the comics and put them together to serve as the basis for the main plot of the movie, something that EVERY CBM has incorporated in it.

But unlike your god king Nolan, he embraced the comic book feel and tone of the franchise it's based on.
ATrueHero1987 - 12/26/2012, 3:51 PM
@thewonderer so I'm going to ask this question again: Do you use to read/collect comics or do you read/collect them now? I NEVER see you comment on the comic articles...

@MARVELPSYCHO79-Right.lmao

@RamonSuarez- What you said, all of what you said......Beautiful!
thewonderer - 12/26/2012, 4:25 PM
@Sage

Loki being the first supervillain fought is not quintessential movie comic accuracy.

And Loki did not use an illusion to trick Hulk, he used an illusion to trick Thor. He used this weird never explained power in his staff to heighten the tension, which is never in the comics.

Black Widow was never even there, and Hulk never fought Black Widow at that point.

Also I'm almost positive movie Loki wants revenge against Thor somewhat, but more importantly wants the power of the tesseract, which also in the comics was not important at that point.

Ant-Man is the one who suggests the team form in the comics.

The chitauri in the movie do not shapeshift as they do in the comics and are NEVER led by Loki nor under Thanos.

The Chitauri themselves also were involved in WW2 in the comics, yet in the movies its just the power of the tesseract.

Look frankly, I don't give a hoot about direct comic to film translation, but when someone says these movies are comic accurate, I call BS. NO MOVIE is completely comic accurate. I also call BS to people who say this is more comic accurate than Nolans Batman.

And Sage, you could not name more than 3 GENERAL, VERY general loose comparisons.

@Marvel87

Whats the point of commenting there, its not interesting, the discussions I mean. This is an active discussion right here.
ATrueHero1987 - 12/26/2012, 4:33 PM
I didn't say anything about commenting on a comic article NOW but you didn't answer my main question...

SageMode - 12/26/2012, 5:09 PM
THEWONDERER

You're missing the point (seems intentional for that matter)............

Every comic book movie borrows from stories from the source material while making an original story of their own for the film..........

And how is Loki being the first villain they fought in the comic not "accurate" to the movie?

So by your logic, lemme ask you this.......

Did Ra's Al Ghul train Bruce Wayne into becoming Batman?

Was Bruce ever a member of the League of Assassins whom the League of Shadows is based on?

Was Henri Ducard and Ra's Al Ghul ever the same person?

Was the Joker responsible for turning Harvey Dent into Two-Face?

Did Bane ever have a backstory with the the LOA/LOS early in his career as a criminal?

And I thought Bane released the criminals from Arkham Asylum and not Blackgate Prison.......and wasn't Batman supposed to be worn down from those criminals released from the Asylum and not by being double crossed by a Catwoman-less Selina Kyle prior to the first fight.......

Etc etc.

And yes, THEY ARE move accurate than Nolan's movie. It takes more than borrowing stories from the comics to be "faithful". It also constitutes from characterizations of the heroes, villains, and the environment they live in. It's funny how when a Nolanite tries to say that Nolan is faithful because he used stories from the source material.......smh.
elessarundomiel2382 - 12/26/2012, 6:04 PM
@thewonderer and @sage

remember shows like "Lois & Clark" and "Flash those were shows that werent comic accurate. They created characters for the show.

I think what is meant by comic accurate is that they borrow things from the comics. They are not saying that theyre adapting a specific issue or story. They are grabbing elements from the source material. Whether it be a name (Chitauri), or a character here and there. Thats whats good about comic movies these days whether its DC or Marvel. As fans we should all just enjoy that were getting these movies.

Enjoy them while they last. No need to fight over which one is better.
SteveIrwinFan96 - 12/26/2012, 6:53 PM
thewonderer, I did enjoy FvJ for what it was. I liked it better then AvP, which (I'm going to get hate for this), I liked. And thus far, I have to agree with everyone else.
peppy - 12/26/2012, 8:38 PM
Pure talent Mr. Whedon , this man made the best comic book movie to date .
Jollem - 12/26/2012, 8:53 PM
the characterization in all cbms take the same liberties

thewonderer actually gave good counter-points to the b.s. being thrown at tdkr for months and months now
dancingmonkey08 - 12/26/2012, 8:58 PM
I hope 2013 brings us a hell of a lot more news on SHIELD and Avengers 2 because I think we are getting no more new news this year

I utterly loved the Avengers, theres only been a handful of movies where I walked out overwhelmingly speechless and then when I did begin to talk about it, I went on for hours about it lol Avengers was one of these movies, Joss is the man

And to wrap up the year, Im gonna go back and watch the entire Phase 1 of the MCU, because its been one hell of a journey from Iron Man to the Avengers in the last 5 years!


BRING ON PHASE 2 ASAP!
CoulsonLives - 12/26/2012, 11:43 PM
Now if only he could mention the real names of the new recruits... Like Jan and Hank.
mgeoff88 - 12/27/2012, 12:30 AM
"Although, "Avengers" is the top of my list of exciting new things, "S.H.I.E.L.D." is really talking to me."

I can't wait to see what Joss Whedon has planned for the S.H.I.E.L.D. TV show and The Avengers 2!!!

@thewonderer You're wrong; a comic book crossover like The Avengers has never been done on the big screen before.

Solo films each connected and building to a bigger story for a team-up ensemble film. Not only that, but it was brilliantly executed! And you can't use Predator 2 as an argument, because that Xenomorph's skull was a merely a fun easter egg. At the time, it was not even a plan to do a crossover with the Predator and Aliens franchises.

That's even looking past the fact that the AVP films and Freddy vs. Jason were terrible, which you even admitted. Everything else is your opinion. I'm just telling you that you are incorrect in saying a movie like The Avengers has been done before. It hasn't, it's the first of its kind.
sikwon - 12/27/2012, 5:49 AM
As much as people argue and for all of the oscar consideration that its getting the Dark Knight Rises just wasnt a great movie. I watched it again over the weekend and for the 4th time im left underwhelmed. I can watch the Dark Knight over and over again, admittedly im just waiting for the Joker to come on screen, but still, it draws you in. Rises just never does that. Ever. Its just not a great movie. Yes it tied up themes and showed Batman in a way that was refreshing but it wasnt nearly as good as the first to. And to be clear i think Nolan is one of the best directors, hands down, that we have today. I also like Bale alot, American Psycho is watchable simply because Bale is friggen amazing in it. I truly believe that if left up to Nolan he wouldent have made a 3rd movie. I think he had plans for the Joker to be in the 3rd in some kind of way and when Ledger passed away they had to change everything. For all intents and purposes the league of shadows story line was wrapped up in begins. They could have never mentioned them again and no one would have noticed. They had to contrive a story from scratch for Rises. I really believe that, mostly because its the only explination I can come up with for how much worse rises is then the other 2 offerings. Especially when you consider that they already knew how it would end, what direction they wanted the 3 movies to go in.
pepe - 12/27/2012, 5:53 AM
Phase 2: My body is ready...
unknownfacts - 12/27/2012, 12:35 PM
Can't wait till people start calling Whedon a hack like Nolan give it afew years some time when Avengers 3 comes out.Like Nolan when he made Batman Begins we'll want him to make every comic book movie for the next year then after afew projects we'll start to see the simularity in he's work.Once we realize the pattern of his work it will lose it appeal to the fickle fanboys.

On another note both movies were comic book accurate. Read some Batman and Avengers titles before you talk about accuracy,because from what I read I can point out books were most of the scenes came from.
UltimateHunt - 12/27/2012, 8:45 PM
Overall Best Movie of the Year. Best reviews,Best BO Money. A Super succesful film, Mission Accomplished Whedon, Bring on phase 2
marvel72 - 12/28/2012, 5:06 AM
@ thewonderer

the avengers movie featured stuff straight from the comics

-loki being the first avenger villain

-chitauri being the first villain in the ultimates

-iron man vs thor happened in the pages of jms thor run

-hulk vs thor how many times has that happened in the comics

-hawkeye starting off as a villain before becoming an avenger,yes it was different but he was still a villain before he was an avenger.

-the line ups are pretty much the same from early avengers/the ultimates comics

@ sagemode

well said mate,your last comment seems to of scared thewonderer off.

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