New CAPTAIN AMERICA: THE WINTER SOLDIER Details On 'Steve Rogers'' Arc And S.H.I.E.L.D.

While the sequel's screenwriter explains how they plan to make Cap less boring, and give him more of an arc, Empire mag's spread on Captain America: The Winter Soldier reveals pivotal S.H.I.E.L.D. info.

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Compared to the quirkiness of Tony Stark or the otherworldly Thor, Steve Rogers' all around good guy values can apparently come off as “boring” on-screen. Speaking with Empire magazine, co-screenwriter Christopher Markus explained how Captain America: The Winter Soldier will give the Super Soldier depth.“What helps us get past the pious Boy Scout that he could turn into is that he doesn't really want to be this guy,” he says. “He would prefer to be Steve Rogers just walking down the street, helping people sometimes.. He felt the call when the War came. He's kind of the still centre and things happen around him and are influenced by him. It's interesting in this movie, for instance, to watch his relationship with Black Widow, who of course has a very different outlook. It can make it difficult with executives who often want arcs. It's very difficult not to sound lazy when you go, 'Well, he doesn't really have an arc'”

Though exact details as to what S.H.I.E.L.D. is up to in Captain America: The Winter Soldier have been kept to a minimum, the latest issue of Empire magazine also reveals that the defense organization will be using surveillance in the form of drones. They not only pose a problem for Steve Rogers - “this isn't freedom, it's fear” - the the development of the drones will have roots in current real-world controversies. “What made '70s thrillers interesting is that it was a very complicated time.We were peeling back the curtain with Watergate and realizing how corrupt the system was,” says co-director Anthony Russo. “Now, again with the proliferation of social media, you can blow the whistle on the NSA and it can be round the world in 30 seconds. And we have the morality of drones. It is right to preemptively use them to kill suspected terrorists prior to any sort of trial? So the times we're living in are even more complex.” What do you think?

Some time ago, Hasbro previewed their Captain America: The Winter Soldier toy line which included what appeared to be a S.H.I.E.L.D. drone. While it was said to have no connection to the film, with today's news, that's probably untrue and we may already know how the drones will look in the sequel. Hopefully they'll be more distinctive from those Hammer drones from Iron Man 2.




After the cataclysmic events in New York with The Avengers, “Captain America: The Winter Soldier” finds Steve Rogers, aka Captain America, living quietly in Washington, D.C. and trying to adjust to the modern world. But when a S.H.I.E.L.D. colleague comes under attack, Steve becomes embroiled in a web of intrigue that threatens to put the world at risk. Joining forces with the Black Widow, Captain America struggles to expose the ever-widening conspiracy while fighting off professional assassins sent to silence him at every turn. When the full scope of the villainous plot is revealed, Captain America and the Black Widow enlist the help of a new ally, the Falcon. However, they soon find themselves up against an unexpected and formidable enemy — the Winter Soldier. Starring Chris Evans, Scarlett Johansson, Sebastian Stan, Anthony Mackie, Cobie Smulders, Frank Grillo, Georges St-Pierre, Hayley Atwell, Toby Jones, Emily VanCamp and Maximiliano Hernández with Samuel L. Jackson and Robert Redford, “Captain America: The Winter Soldier” is directed by the team of Anthony & Joe Russo from a screenplay written by Christopher Markus & Stephen McFeely and is based on the ever-popular Marvel comic book series, first published in 1941. Marvel Studios’ President Kevin Feige is producing the film. Executive producers on the project include Alan Fine, Louis D’Esposito, Victoria Alonso, Michael Grillo and Stan Lee. The creative production team on the film includes director of photography Trent Opaloch, production designer Peter Wenham, editors Jeffrey Ford, A.C.E. and Mary Jo Markey, A.C.E. and three time Oscar®-nominated costume designer Judianna Makovsky. “Captain America: The Winter Soldier” is set for release on April 4, 2014.
Source: Empire Magazine
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TheOneAboveAll - 12/31/2013, 7:13 AM
“What made '70s thrillers interesting is that it was a very complicated time.We were peeling back the curtain with Watergate and realizing how corrupt the system was,”
hmm...
this gives me intrigue as well... the best thrillers from the 70's are very few. those that were good came to be some of the most memorable great movies ever but many fell very short.
Among the greats of that time
Taxi Driver (1976)
The Conversation (1974)
Chinatown (1974)
Dirty Harry (1971)
Jaws (1975)...
Get Carter (1971)
Straw Dogs (1971)
most of these movies captured the essence of the time but... most of them didn't really mention what was going on with the government... it just same a sense of the time which made them incredibly memorable.
TheOneAboveAll - 12/31/2013, 7:15 AM
"It can make it difficult with executives who often want arcs. And it's very difficult not to sound lazy when you go, 'Well, e doesn't really have an arc...'”
...wait... Cap doesn't have a character arc in the movie? This could go really bad really quickly...
Every other marvel movie has had a character arc for the main character, even the weakest one(IM2) had Tony go through a character arc.
AstonishingArachnid - 12/31/2013, 7:23 AM
That's what I like to see. The corruption of SHIELD is something I'm really looking forward to.
ezio619 - 12/31/2013, 7:24 AM
THEONEABOVEALL- if it wasnt cap,i would be worried about the charater arc thing but it is Cap and Cap in the comics doesnt really have character arcs, he remains the same good hearted strong willed soldier and the whole movie is about how his black and white view on the world clases with modern poilitics where the area is grey so its him resisting that and not accepting that
MrCBM56 - 12/31/2013, 7:24 AM
Wow. This all sound awesome!!!! I can't wait.

And yeah, The Government will create Ultron.

I bet in this movie phase 2 was initiated like hinted in The Avengers.

And I bet they receive hydra weapons from Baron VonStruker.
TheOneAboveAll - 12/31/2013, 7:27 AM
@ezio
interesting. But considering the source material for this adaptation, I would expect him to have some sort of learning or character arc by expanding his relationship with Bucky and Black Widow and Shield. I am pretty sure he is gonna learn a lot and evolve over the arc of the movie I think they were exaggerating by saying he doesn't have much of a character arc.
TheOneAboveAll - 12/31/2013, 7:27 AM
@Nomis
I never saw it...
Nomis - 12/31/2013, 7:28 AM
@ TheOneAboveAll - You're forgetting the most important one - 'ALL THE PRESIDENT MEN'

It took on the issue of Government Corpurtion, specifically Watergate, head on.

TheOneAboveAll - 12/31/2013, 7:30 AM
@Nomis...
I was also referencing the most memorable thrillers from the time... that is more of a political drama than thriller. It I think is a crime drama and not a thriller like what was being referenced in the article
Jollem - 12/31/2013, 7:32 AM
but will it be an overcrowded mess?
Nomis - 12/31/2013, 7:33 AM
@ TheOneAboveAll - Academy award winner staring Dustin Hoffman and Robert Redford.

And for those who are saying Cap never had a "character arc", in the comics after the Watergate scandal, Steve Engelhart,the writer of Cap's books at the time, had Steve Rogers decides to quit being Captain America because of his dissillusion with the government and become NOMAD for a while!


This could be the premise of the 3rd movie.
ezio619 - 12/31/2013, 7:33 AM
Theoneaboveall- im pretty sure his relationships with people will change such as bucky or shield etc, that will be the arc, but he himself will more or less remain the same
TheOneAboveAll - 12/31/2013, 7:34 AM
@ezio
I agree. I think it will work for the best like you pointed out cause the character doesn't have much to grow either. Good points
TheDarkLord - 12/31/2013, 7:34 AM
Can't wait to see this!!!!!
Tyrus - 12/31/2013, 7:34 AM
@MrCBM56

Honestly, I'm behind the idea of the Government creating Ultron because it'd be so easy to throw in/reveal that they've been working off Hank Pym's blueprints the entire time. You could say the same about Stark possibly copying Pym too.

Sorry but I don't believe that they moved Ant-Man's release date up to July to get away from Bond or steal 0.5% thunder from MoS 2; they want to keep Age of Ultron's and Ant-Man's stories close AS WELL AS the audiences interest in Hank Pym within a short time-frame (that is if he shows up in AOU, of course).
ezio619 - 12/31/2013, 7:34 AM
Nomis-oh man,i forgot about that, i think the arc will be how his relationship with shield or bucky changes but he wont have a singular character arc, he will more or less remain the same,maybe he will break off with shield at the end
TheOneAboveAll - 12/31/2013, 7:35 AM
@Nomis
I will check it out next month, thanks for pointing it out.
Nomis - 12/31/2013, 7:36 AM
@ ezio - I'm thinking the same thing, in that he will seperate all his connections with SHIELD.
ezio619 - 12/31/2013, 7:38 AM
batz-yeah man, i am excited for all 4 superhero films, well this year now, but i am gonna leave my excitement at the door and judge the film on its own merits, i really hope all 4 are atleast good if not great
Dinotron - 12/31/2013, 7:40 AM
Or Cap becomes Nomad at the end ditching his Stars and Stripes!
TheWolverine08 - 12/31/2013, 7:42 AM
This definitely looking good.
SuperCat - 12/31/2013, 7:43 AM
Sounds good to me.

kevberg - 12/31/2013, 7:44 AM
Nothing BORING about good guy values. Far more entertained by CAP:TFA than any predictable-obscene-crap by Taran-cocaine-o or the Wimp of wall street.


Evans was good in CA:TFA and Avengers. gimme more of that, im fine. ..and hot ass Haley Atwell.
Tyrus - 12/31/2013, 7:45 AM
@batz11

Damn that reminds me that Senator Stern is in this film... I'm calling right now that he'll probably mention Stark to Cap, Sitwell; whoever he's in a scene with and call him an asshole.
Dinotron - 12/31/2013, 7:47 AM
I forgot this article I seen in August but it says that this film will in fact be darker and that Cap will have multiple suits and that they were saving them to be seen on the film

Here's the link
http://m.joblo.com/joblo/news/49833
Jollem - 12/31/2013, 7:48 AM
sounds like a mess. i'm hoping for the best
BatManiac - 12/31/2013, 7:51 AM
This sounds and looks like its going to be the best Marvel Studio movie to date!
Tyrus - 12/31/2013, 7:53 AM
@Jollem

Crowded as [frick]. All hope is lost.

Please shoot me and send Kevin Feige and Ben Affleck my regards.
TheOneAboveAll - 12/31/2013, 7:54 AM
@Tyrus
The terrible Senator from IM2 is in this? Oh noes... Let's hope for a Justin Hammer Cameo
Nomis - 12/31/2013, 7:55 AM
One of the reason I really like Cap (my third favorite hero) is because he's a Stand-Up Guy in a world full of "anti-Heroes".
MightyZeus - 12/31/2013, 7:58 AM
Sounds amazing and intriguing.
Looking forward to CA:TWS.
GliderMan - 12/31/2013, 7:58 AM
Not to mention Fury getting framed!
Grimfoe - 12/31/2013, 7:58 AM
I like most of what I've heard. I'm a little nervous about a writer that feels the need to apologize for Cap being "boring." Just because he's an actual good guy doesn't mean he's boring. There are a LOT of really good story arcs over the years and Marvel was really a little lazy falling back on the Winter Soldier story so quickly. It may be very good, but there are some GREAT stories from the 70's and 80's. Stories where we can see that Cap embodies what our nation could and should be. His idealism is interesting because he NEVER strays from doing the right thing. In a world where nearly everyone strays and hides behind the "shades of grey" argument, Cap finds a way to win against the odds without compromising his ideals. It's made even better by the fact that he is one of the least "super" of all the heroes. Given all the controversy with the NSA and the TSA and the ever present encroachment on our civil rights, this could be a VERY interesting movie. I hope they do it well.
Archangel82 - 12/31/2013, 7:58 AM
We were peeling back the curtain with Watergate and realizing how corrupt the system was,”
It's funny that they say that because the system, the government, and our political leaders have never been so corrupt. Hopefully they show how far gone our political system is and Cap is still standing for the old guard of the American ways.
TheOneAboveAll - 12/31/2013, 8:01 AM
@Batz
I kinda want to see some more Justin Hammer Dancing again lol
TheOneAboveAll - 12/31/2013, 8:01 AM
SAM ROCKWELL DANCING GIFS TIME!
McNyagano - 12/31/2013, 8:02 AM
Yep, Shield creates Ultron no doubt. I can't wait for this flick!!
MegatronLP9 - 12/31/2013, 8:02 AM
The Drone thing makes sense for Age of Ultron.. Probably Ultron is a SHIELD drone created by Stark and Banner when they were consulting to each other after IM3?
Nomis - 12/31/2013, 8:04 AM
Luminus - 12/31/2013, 8:06 AM
"“What made '70s thrillers interesting is that it was a very complicated time.We were peeling back the curtain with Watergate and realizing how corrupt the system was.”

How does someone coming straight out of segregation need Watergate to demonstrate to them that the system is corrupt? There must have been something in the "whites only" water fountains.

ALL times are complicated.
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