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How does the Mandarin fit into Iron Man 2?

UPDATE! In what capacity will the villain be mentioned in the sequel? I'll give you a hint: it involves a ring and a weapons manufacturer. . .


I doubt there were any followers of Iron Man comics that didn't have a fangasm upon seeing the hero's greatest foe mentioned in his feature film debut. Not only was the Mandarin mentioned, but the limited backstory that was given made sense in the modernized telling.

Before I get into my hypothesis on how the ancient villain will appear in Iron Man 2, let me go over the details of what brought me to this point. First off, here are the three major mentions of the character from Iron Man:

1) The Ten Rings banner.



In the Marvel comics mythos, the Mandarin's personal weapons are his Ten Rings of Power that he wears simultaneously (one on each finger). Each ring has a different function (ice blasts, fire blasts, vortex control, etc.). Contrary to popular belief, the rings are not magical in nature but were created using alien technology. That's right, the Mandarin is a science-based villain through and through. The Mandarin's rings are the product of a dragon-like alien race from the planet Maklu-IV; whose technology surpasses Earth's exponentially. The rings’ functions cannot be explained or recreated by modern Earth science.

Marvel.com explains it a bit further: 'The Mandarin learned how to utilize the rings for own personal use and make them respond to his personal commands. Over the years, the Mandarin’s mind has actually come to inhabit the rings so that now no one else can make use of them. The Mandarin can also now control the rings over large distances.'

Did Jon Favreau change this story to make The Ten Rings simply an international terrorist organization? I highly doubt that and here's why:

2) Raza, leader of a Ten Rings cell



In the film's novelization, Raza (the man responsible for Tony Stark's captivity) mentions “…the man whose ring I wear.” This, of course, is a reference that the ring on his right ring finger belongs to the Mandarin. One ring down, nine to go. Which leads to the third revelation. . .

3) Jon Favreau's take on the Mandarin

It appears that the Iron Man director doesn't want to showcase the Mandarin as a solitary villain, but incorporate his into the story as the puppeteer behind all of Stark's opposition. He has stated that his version of the Mandarin in the movie series "allows us to incorporate the whole pantheon of villains." What does that mean to me? To put it simply, the Mandarin will have a connection to every villain Tony Stark faces.

Favreau also had this to say, "I look at Mandarin more like how in 'Star Wars' you had the Emperor, but Darth Vader is the guy you want to see fight. Then you work your way to the time when lightning bolts are shooting out of the fingers and all that stuff could happen. But you can't have what happened in 'Return of the Jedi' happen in 'A New Hope'. You just can't do it."

In regards to Iron Man 2, Favreau told the LA Times that 'The Mandarin is still in the background pulling the strings.'


Now, onto my belief of how the Mandarin is incorporated into this year's sequel. Two words: Justin Hammer.

Anyone who thinks that Whiplash is the central villain in the film hasn't been paying attention. Hammer is Stark's biggest industrial competitor. Hammer is willing to work with the government when Tony isn't. Hammer finds a way to free Ivan/Whiplash and have him finalize the 'new and improved' Iron Man-style robots. Hammer creates droves of robots and only he has the authority outside the government to send them after Iron Man and War Machine.

That being established, what would make me believe that Justin Hammer has anything to do with the Mandarin. It was just a little thing that has appeared in every video for Iron Man 2. Hammer is always shown wearing a bulky ring on this pinky finger:




Check out the trailers and Comic Con '09 clips for yourself; every scene that Hammer appears throughout the progression of the film shows him wearing the same ring.

Don't forget to take into account Jon Favreau's attention to detail with these films and his way of putting emphasis on something that is easily overlooked (i.e. the repetition of the Strategic Homeland Intervention, Enforcement and Logistics Division in the first film). Where Raza would handle the Mandarin's need for soldiers, Hammer would be his ally in the technological world. Of course, this could just be an example of a rich industrialist wearing his favorite overpriced jewelry.

But the association makes perfect sense. . . at least to me.



I'd like to know your thoughts on the matter. Am I over thinking this similarity or is it a realistic assumption that Justin Hammer is the second of the Mandarin's henchmen that we are introduced to?





UPDATE: A few users have brought up a solid point that I completely overlooked. In the Iron Man movie novelization, Obediah Stane removed Ten Rings cell leader Raza's bejeweled ring and wore it for the rest of the story. Though the ring Stane wears in the film looks different from the ring Raza wears, it's safe to assume that they look very similar for a reason. Why this was left out of the film has yet to be revealed. Remember that the Iron Man 2 novelization is due out in the beginning of April, so keep your eyes open for more hints on this theory.
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108 Comments

But great point! I never saw any of this in the movie or the trailers.

I really really think you are right! It makes perfect sense.

Bravo my friend. Bravo

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Fartman - 3/9/2010, 10:36 PM
Wow great insight Multi. Alot of points I never really thought about but now looking at them, I completely agree.
MidKnight35 - 3/9/2010, 10:38 PM
That is a well thought out theory and one hell of an observation. I hope you're right because its genius.
juggy4711 - 3/9/2010, 10:40 PM
Thanks guys, this is what happens when I get a night off of work, everyone in the house is sleeping and the fridge is full of beer.

At least it's a break from Cap casting rumors lol
Pietro Filipponi - 3/9/2010, 10:42 PM
Excellent analysis, can't say anything else, great details and stuff!! Cool stuff!!
JLAvenger23 - 3/9/2010, 10:43 PM
Well...Hammer could be in the mob. The made men where gaudy pinkie rings.

Yeah, he is a member of the robot mob! The bastard!!

Duh duh duuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhnnnnnnnnn
THEHAWK - 3/9/2010, 10:45 PM
But yeah, you idea sounds right to me.

HAWK out
THEHAWK - 3/9/2010, 10:45 PM
i like it
Kajun - 3/9/2010, 10:45 PM
Yeah great job bringing that to light.
chasesuperremey - 3/9/2010, 10:46 PM
Good point.
JJMeylar - 3/9/2010, 10:51 PM
Great Analysis. I diddn't catch the ring on Hammer's finger.

Cheers.
Lanceloco - 3/9/2010, 10:52 PM
yeah thats actually really cool...very well thought out!

i just looked up a picture of jeff bridges as Obadiah Stane in IM and hes got a ring on his right pinky as well...coincidence? maybe not!

13ulletpr00f17 - 3/9/2010, 10:53 PM
I still think it's interesting that in both trailers when Iron Man and War Machine are battling the Hammer Drones... they are in an Asian-style garden... COINCIDENCE? HMMMM????
Avenger53 - 3/9/2010, 10:54 PM
@13ulletpr00f17

You're right! Stane does have a ring on his right pinky... but so does Hammer... would the Mandarin's minions wear rings on the same fingers or would each wear their ring on a different finger a la the sketch above?
Avenger53 - 3/9/2010, 11:09 PM
Boy, I hope this is the story they use in the movie, or I am going to be disappointed now. Great idea, and well thought out and argured
STOOPUDR - 3/9/2010, 11:12 PM
Good catch on that, fascinating read
theartofoneness - 3/9/2010, 11:16 PM
Great Points! I really think that you are right on this....

Does any one remember hearing about Fin Fang Foom being in this movie?

It seems to me that Fin Fang Foom was rumored to be in the movie very early on and if that's true it will support your points.
TimJude72 - 3/9/2010, 11:21 PM
I remember seeing Raza's gigantic ring in the first movie and I figured the leader of each terrorist cell held a ring and that when the time came, the Mandarin would bring them together to put them on. I like your theory and it makes sense.

@Avenger53 - I think they each wear the ring on the finger the Mandarin would wear them on if he had all ten on.
Joker1Zero - 3/9/2010, 11:23 PM
@Tim - I bet Fin Fang Foom will be the Mandarin's secret weapon to fight against Tony.

@Poni - Damn, bro, if you're crazy, then I'm crazy too cause it all seems plausible. Great job.
BryEL - 3/9/2010, 11:24 PM
wow awesome article multi! seriously one of the best ive read on this site. im so excited for this movie!!!!!
Makiveli21 - 3/9/2010, 11:25 PM
I'll bite that...
Click4WebCash
01 - 3/9/2010, 11:25 PM
good observation multi
AvengingAngel1022 - 3/9/2010, 11:27 PM
Thanks again guys, I thought they'd be at least one naysayer by comment 10 lol

@BryEL: I know I'm crazy, so you're f*cked :) But even crazy people can be logical from time to time.

BTW, Fin Fang Foom WILL appear in Iron Man 2, in the form of a billboard for a museum exhibit:



Maybe come Iron Man 3, the Mandarin will 'awaken' him to use as a weapon
Pietro Filipponi - 3/9/2010, 11:27 PM
lets see how they butcher him like they did with whiplash.

the mandarin does not have a suitcase so his armor will unfold from his rings.
grif - 3/9/2010, 11:32 PM
That is quite the theory and plausible. That could leave it open to 10 movies.
Number21 - 3/9/2010, 11:32 PM
@grif: I'm kind of worried about how they will finally showcase Mandarin as well, he's definitely a hard character to translate aesthetically.

But. . . how did they butcher Whiplash? He looked like the Pulp Fiction gimp in the comics. I think he's definitely been improved upon for the film version:


Pietro Filipponi - 3/9/2010, 11:35 PM
JENSEN ACKLES FOR CAPTAIN CAVEMAN!!!
gtrman - 3/9/2010, 11:38 PM
multi there have been plenty of versions. why would they go with the lamest one?
grif - 3/9/2010, 11:39 PM
@gtrman: I'd buy that for a dollar

@grif: According to Marvel there were only two Whiplash comic book costumes that were around when Iron Man 2 was in production -




If you find another version let me know, maybe I'll change my mind. As of right now I think Mickey's version looks way better than the comic version (not counting the new Whiplash comics based on the film). If they put him in a full suit by the end of the film, all the better.
Pietro Filipponi - 3/9/2010, 11:42 PM
wow those are sum great points. Hope everything u said was correct cause that would make a great series of movies.
MercWitaMouth88 - 3/10/2010, 12:02 AM
So, going on your logic, is it going to take another 8 films to see the Mandarin?
thenumber12 - 3/10/2010, 12:12 AM
Excellent post MultiPurposePoni!

A great read indeed.
Internapse - 3/10/2010, 12:13 AM
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cfho83 - 3/10/2010, 12:14 AM
@thenumber12
Haha. I don't think it'll take another 8 films to see the Mandarin. The film where we do see the Mandarin will probably have him going around collecting the 10 rings for most of the movie with him getting all of them for the Big Climax. Meanwhile, they could throw another villain in to keep the action going.
Joker1Zero - 3/10/2010, 12:16 AM
@number12: My logical observation only covers the events in Iron Man 2, nothing afterward. Until the film is released I wouldn't even try to assume how they would introduce the rest of the eight rings (though Joker's comment seems spot on).

But, I wouldn't mind eight more films released back to back. That would make me a happy fan indeed :)

@Internapse/Merc: Thanks!

@cfho: Of course you can, just don't forget to cite your source lol
Pietro Filipponi - 3/10/2010, 12:19 AM
Oh, Justin Hammer, just like any real corporate tycoon is some silly little man who thinks he's the puppeteer when in reality is just another easily guided puppet. Be not fooled, my friend. Mr Hammer is most definitely one tool within The Mandarin's fist of deceit.
r0r5ch4ch84 - 3/10/2010, 12:20 AM
i swear Multi you are a flippin genius!
Wadey09 - 3/10/2010, 12:24 AM
@ Multi: I agree with 8 more films haha, but do you think Hammer is going to have any type of powers due to the ring?

I wouldnt mind this movie giving a little chirp to the Mandarin at the end of the movie, like having him say something to hammer about how nice his ring is
thenumber12 - 3/10/2010, 12:29 AM
@Wadey: Yeah, tell that to the missus

@number12: I doubt it. The Mandarin has complete control over his rings, which means that only he knows how to use them. The funny thing is several comics have shown that when another person wears one of the rings, the Mandarin has control of their actions/thoughts. He transferred part of his life 'essence' into each of them, so it guarantees that he is immortal as long as all the rings survive.
Pietro Filipponi - 3/10/2010, 12:34 AM
@Multi: Very cool, i never knew that. That would be pretty sweet if Mandarin was some how influencing Hammers actions
thenumber12 - 3/10/2010, 12:37 AM
Dude, I had close to these exact same thoughts. Honestly think its right on the money, couldn't agree more, your not over analyzing, your spot on.

Only I had thought he might be the main villain in the avengers, as opposed to IM3.

Suppose the use of Mandarin, Loki, Hulk and Fin Fang Foom in the avengers, as antagonists, with Mandarin, of course being, by far, the flag ship villain. Fin fang appearing something like:

http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k158/ponyboyzero/ironman-2-movie-easter-egg_224.jpg This version, as you had posted.

Fing Fang Foom, could, essentially be the same alien tech (as the rings), only fin fang is some kind of alien android/super weapon, hybrid tech, as you had said.

So, since the mix of crimson dynamo and whiplash has occurred in IM2, how about this, maybe a mix of Ultron (a main avengers villain) and that technological fin fang? I get giddy over the idea.

Ultron is one of the big avengers villains, connecting him to the mandarin by way of a morphing him with fin fang could lead into a sequel that, develops fin fang INTO Ultron, by way of Hank Pym, Aliens, W.E, its very open ended in all the right ways.

EDIT: Sorry, messed up the picture link.

Jarren Hunter - 3/10/2010, 12:42 AM
Good Stuff bro!
Str8OuttaKrypton - 3/10/2010, 12:51 AM
gr8 post man.. could someone check out on stane's ring??
mpk1988 - 3/10/2010, 1:34 AM
Here the Stane's ring:




Aztlan - 3/10/2010, 1:48 AM
Hmmm cool theory very similar to the Akatsuki from Naruto. It never occured to me at all but the Stane-Hammer ring does raise a few questions

"Akatsuki at any given time is composed of no more than ten primary members, all of whom were S-Class criminals of their own respective villages.

....Everyone also wears a ring with a kanji on different fingers depending on who the member is.

What seems to be most important, however, are their rings. In total, there are ten rings given to each of the ten main members of Akatsuki. The rings apparently signify one's membership and ring position, since when Orochimaru defected, he took his ring with him[9] and as such wasn't replaced.[10] The rings' exact purpose have not been revealed.
The ring positions of the members

The various rings are:[11]

* Right thumb: 零 (rei, "zero"); worn by Pain. Its color is dark gray
* Right index finger: 青 (Aoi, shō, "blue," "green"); worn by Deidara. Its color teal.
* Right middle finger: 白 (bya, "white"); worn by Konan. Its color is white.
* Right ring finger: 朱 (shu, "vermilion," "scarlet"); worn by Itachi Uchiha. Its color is red.
* Right little finger: 亥 (gai, "sign of the boar"); worn by Zetsu. Its color is green.
* Left little finger: 空 (kū, "sky," "void"); worn by Orochimaru. Its color is slate blue.
* Left ring finger: 南 (nan, "south"); worn by Kisame Hoshigaki. Its color is yellow.
* Left middle finger: 北 (hoku, "north"); worn by Kakuzu. Its color is dark green.
* Left index finger: 三 (san, "three"); worn by Hidan. Its color is orange. "

http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Akatsuki
breakUbatman - 3/10/2010, 1:56 AM
@Multi awesome article man really i would be shocked if you were wrong
Roscoe182 - 3/10/2010, 1:58 AM
Rhodey also wears a ring on his left hand in Iron-man. On two separate occasions it was on a different finger. It may just be a continuity error though. Its kind of similar to Stains.

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KiNGJohn472 - 3/10/2010, 2:14 AM
Also after re-watching Iron-man tonight I noticed the two planes that were chasing him were code-named whiplash 1 $ 2. I know it means nothing but i found it kinda ironic and humorous.
KiNGJohn472 - 3/10/2010, 2:16 AM
Manderine SHOULD be Chow Yun Fat

Chow Yun Fat Sig Pictures, Images and Photos

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TheSoulEater - 3/10/2010, 2:44 AM
Multi. u r absolutely right and like fav. said it seems that ur theory is perfect......
nice one hats off.....
T800 - 3/10/2010, 3:46 AM
great insight, so maybe jon is slowly incorporating Mandarin into the movie, with all the rings in each characters... its kinda hinting that Mandarin is gonna show up ;)
AngPandoy - 3/10/2010, 3:50 AM
Fartman@ no fisting lol

Multi@ Cool article, i was hoping there might be a little Manderin scene at the end of IM2 instead of an Avengers referance :)
teabag - 3/10/2010, 4:33 AM
i think it would be cool if the Mandarin was like the ring-leader (no pun intended) of these organizations all around the world. you can definately see Raza stroking his ring a couple times in IM. i think it will turn out that there are ten "fingers" (organzizations) around the world, and Mandarin is the leader of them. sounds cool.
CorndogBurglar - 3/10/2010, 5:21 AM
FARTMAN @ FISTER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!





; P

P.S. Great article!
LEEE777 - 3/10/2010, 5:26 AM
ringading ding ding dong.
A7 - 3/10/2010, 5:42 AM
Wow! Great call Multi! I would have NEVER come up with that on my own.
jusme6 - 3/10/2010, 5:46 AM
interesting. SO does that mean that Rhodey is working with the Mandarin as a sleeper agent?
Aki87 - 3/10/2010, 5:53 AM
Holy shit, Multi!!! You deserve a blowjob for this :))
Shaman - 3/10/2010, 5:55 AM
Great article Multi. All of it plausible and potentialy very cool.
Hawksblueyes - 3/10/2010, 6:04 AM
i personally think that John Krasinski would make a perfect Mandarin
bagman - 3/10/2010, 6:19 AM
Thanks again guys, I'm glad I made sense. Great observations as well, some of you are really thinking this through.

@BlackAirs: If Rhodey has something to do with the Mandarin it wouldn't have anything to do with his rings. The first one he wears is a standard military signet ring that has an Air Force logo in the top corner. You can find these rings everywhere and they are usually worn on the left ring finger (instead of a wedding band):



The second one is a US Air Force Academy ring, for officers who graduate from the school in Colorado Springs:





The Stane theory came to mind last night when I was writing this article. One big thing stops me from believing that he has anything to do with the Mandarin: He attacked Raza and killed a horde of Ten Ring soldiers. Besides that, though, it would be a good theory to add to the mix.
Pietro Filipponi - 3/10/2010, 6:21 AM
I guessed this last night on another thread.

"Watch for Hammer to be working on behalf of The Mandarin.
@bropous - 3/9/2010, 6:30 PM

I do believe Hammer is working for the Mandarin, and S.H.I.E.L.D. knows it.
bropous - 3/10/2010, 6:25 AM
So, they'll be a movie for every ring?
ElBicho - 3/10/2010, 6:33 AM
This seems to have the ring of truth if you'll forgive the pun. I like the idea alot. I think it's true that Mandarin translates into modern cinema best as Favreau describes.

Bearing this in mind then I think it's quite probable they did it this way. Though I believe that the Armour wars segment of Iron man is always going to be popular, it would be wise IMO to drag that out for another movie maybe throw in Titanium Man and The Crymson Dynamo in the 3rd movie.

I'd actually like to see this type of thing cross franchises more. Maybe an Avengers movie could pick up a plot from another CBM so while Ant Man/Ultron is the obvious way to do this it isn't the only one.
Acerimmer1 - 3/10/2010, 7:44 AM
If your right then you definitely know your Iron Man and if you are right then it just shows that Jon Favreau is the perfect man for the Iron Man series. That level of detail usually gets overlooked but it does add a feeling to the movies that you don’t get with other films. It gives you this feeling like this movie is better than what else is out there. I cannot wait to see what Favreau has in store for Iron Man 2. I haven’t been this excited to see a movie in a long time!
Brashlight - 3/10/2010, 7:51 AM
First off, bravo Multi...I do believe Jon Favreau would pay that much attention to detail regarding the rings and Mandarin...as for Stane, I could see him being part of the 10 Rings and as for him attacking Raza, since when are bad guys loyal to each other? He could've been trying to take him out to move up the ladder in the 10 Rings organization. That's just my opinion, but it will be interesting to see how this all plays out. Thanks for posting an article that is in no way related to a false Cap casting rumor...lol
Bohemiben - 3/10/2010, 8:14 AM
raza has one ring,justin hammer has another so their is eight more to find.
so,who's got them ?
1.frodo
2.the green lantern
3.the flash
4.sinestro
5.agent orange
6.batman(didn't he have a kryptonite ring)
7.kila wog
8.elton john(just a battered ring.)
deadpool72 - 3/10/2010, 8:22 AM
What I had not heard was Favreau's take on the Mandarin. Good find, poni.
bropous - 3/10/2010, 8:40 AM
mannn...ur sucha geek hahaha
mynnDAWG - 3/10/2010, 8:41 AM
That is some good findings Multi, but honestly i think directors put stuff like this in movies FOR people like you (not saying its a bad thing). Look at the HORRIBLE Origins: Wolverine, I can remember which CBM person it was but they did a WHOLE article about Dr. Sinister and how he was going to be in the movie, at least in human form. God forgive me, i went to see the movie in theaters and never once did i notice ANYTHING about Sinister. I'm not saying your assumption is wrong, but just to not look too deeply into things. IF it is true that will be amazing and the fact you found it first will be great, but I'm not gonna read too much into it and get my hopes up. I'm already gearing myself up for Deadpool and Green Lantern 2 of which are movies i have been DIEING to see in the big screen, and both of which star RR. so this should be interesting.
DTLSinger - 3/10/2010, 8:55 AM
@deadpool: Spot on. You're a rock star!

@mynn: Yup, but I can still kick your ass :)

@DTL: I think you're forgetting two very important things -

1) Wolverine was NOT made by Marvel Studios. Comparing the storytelling in Wolverine to Iron Man is like comparing 4th grade math to calculus. World's apart.

2) Favreau has already thrown plenty of Easter eggs into the first Iron Man film, including ones that will be built up further in the second.

I wouldn't keep your hopes up about Deadpool, btw, it's still in Fox's hands.
Pietro Filipponi - 3/10/2010, 9:01 AM
@mpp. thanks for that clarification.
Aki87 - 3/10/2010, 9:15 AM
Great find Multi i have been thinking similar things since i read the movie novelization and it reveals quite a bit more then the movie but i completely missed Hammers rings. oh and regarding Stanes ring in the novelization it says he takes the ring off of raza's crippled body but then almost right after that he fights Ironman with the ring on. so what happens to the ring because stane falls into the arc reactor with it still on his finger
crazyish - 3/10/2010, 9:29 AM
@BlackAirs: No problem, that's what I'm here for :)

@crazyish: Damn dude, I forgot about that! Stane DOES take the ring off of Raza in the book! Thanks for reminding me, I owe you one
Pietro Filipponi - 3/10/2010, 9:31 AM
SO THE PLOT THICKENS! lol no problem it just always bothered me that it was never explained
crazyish - 3/10/2010, 9:41 AM
From what I remember of a few interviews with JFav right after the release of IM, he said that the novelization would cover a plethora of plot points that he didn't have time to include in the film. I'm guessing that the IM2 novelization will follow the same trend.
Pietro Filipponi - 3/10/2010, 9:45 AM
the novelization of IM 2 is supposed to come out on the 1st of april so i guess we will see then.
crazyish - 3/10/2010, 10:22 AM
Rhodey's rings are graduation rings. One looks like from high school and I'm guessing the other's some kind of Air Force war college. Good eye but don't get ahead of yourself.
Joker1Zero - 3/10/2010, 10:51 AM
Great find.
I had see only Raza's ring.
This is really great.
superheromoviefan - 3/10/2010, 10:51 AM
I hope there's like a giant revelation in IM3 that explains it all like in Watchmen.
ClintEastwood - 3/10/2010, 11:47 AM
lol yeah yeah I get it now. sheesh
@ LEE777 & Teabag I fail


Fartman - 3/10/2010, 11:51 AM
Anybody that says the guy in the background of Fartman's vid looks anything like Captain America needs booze NOW.
Shaman - 3/10/2010, 11:59 AM
@Multi-

This is probably the most well-written insightful piece this sight has seen in two years, Bravo Sir. You have my respect. Not that you care. :)
TheGuillotine - 3/10/2010, 12:06 PM
@TheGuillotine: Oh, I care. I care so much I'm having nasty visions of dancing sugarplums right now.

Wow, Fartman, you even failed at posting an image. That takes talent.
Pietro Filipponi - 3/10/2010, 12:17 PM
Wow, this is absolutely brilliant Detective work, guys! Great job uncovering all this. I actually never put this together. Interesting. . .
JLanphear - 3/10/2010, 1:17 PM
Go ahead anytime you feel like reposting it, fartman. Just so my comment doesn't seem that retarded.
Shaman - 3/10/2010, 1:32 PM
I could go for a Iron Man/Thor team up against the Mandarin and Fin Fang Foom to bridge technology and magic.
JerusalemJr - 3/10/2010, 1:37 PM
Multi - Great, great article! I have a theory regarding your Stane comment. You say the thing stopping you from believing he is involved with Manderin is "he attacked Raza and killed a horde of Ten Ring soldiers". Maybe he was ordered to? If he was part of their group then it would have been the Manderin who ordered Stark to be captured. Raza then failed Manderin by allowing Tony to escape. Failure would most likely result in another "ring bearer" coming to take your life along with the ring you once wore.
Ron - 3/10/2010, 2:08 PM
If the Mandarin is involved with the ten ring from the first movie does that mean he will be middle eastern like the rest of them.
SUPERBATSPIDERMAN - 3/10/2010, 2:38 PM
but the only chararcter that hs referance to the mandarin is raza and i think he becomes the mandarin or helps him find the rings.
flames809 - 3/10/2010, 2:58 PM
Hellyeah, I can buy that. It took me a couple watches to catch this stuff but yeah, its cool too think about. I still watch it regularly, can't wait for the second film. I think Whiplash looks great.
ATOMbomb - 3/10/2010, 4:40 PM
wow...i cant say anything that hasnt already been said buddy so just wow.
ThePrince - 3/10/2010, 5:20 PM
Great job Multi! I like your style

Excellent points all around
DogsOfWar - 3/10/2010, 8:11 PM
Great insight I did catch the mandarian hints but who knows maybe if you fellthe mandarian another takes your place stane killing raza .
Sasquatch123 - 3/10/2010, 10:18 PM
Great article!
Kyos - 3/11/2010, 5:38 AM
It's funny cause on the Batman threads, everyone is screaming at each other and freaking out/talking shit and on here everyone is giving Multi the best internet orgasm he's ever had! lol. But seriously, this is one of the cooler threads I have read. I like stuff like this, even if it's super geeky, I like clever things. Good stuff Multi.
Chad Vital - 3/11/2010, 8:18 AM
Ron:

Good call.
bropous - 3/11/2010, 8:51 AM
Located my original post:

Watch for Hammer to be working on behalf of The Mandarin. @bropous - 3/9/2010, 6:30 PM.
bropous - 3/11/2010, 9:44 AM
Interesting. VERY interesting.
2010warmachine - 3/11/2010, 10:05 AM
in the movie novelization it is explained that members of the ten rings terrorist cell are middle eastern asian and other racial backgrounds
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spanky - 3/12/2010, 2:08 PM
Dear Multipurposeponi

Have read your article. Superb. You may be onto something really big. Took time off to watch Iron Man once more - carefully this time - after reading your article (and the relevant updations). In this regard, I have one question - regarding SHIELD Agent Coulson's interaction with Tony Stark at the Party (when Tony fixes the appointment with him). One of Agent Coulson's lines is "We have very little time..."

Now, I wonder what he means. Very little time? Little time before what happens? Does SHIELD know something that Tony does'nt? I know, maybe it could be irrelevant...but shall be most grateful if you could apply your fine brain...Thanks

IndianFan - 3/24/2010, 8:26 PM
These are some GREAT observations Poni! You've really thought this through! Kudos, my friend! You deserve some sort of medal if you're right about all this hahah.
Fabster360 - 4/26/2010, 5:59 PM
All these observations dont mean squat. Articles like these get people hopes up. Why the HELL would Rhodeys ring snd Hammers ring have anything to do with FIN FANG FOOM (who is from MAKLU) and Mandarin's rings? Why cant these incase jewels that are actually the INFINITY GEMS??? Now doesnt that sound just as outlandish. By the way, Obi's ring is NOT the same as the one Raza was wearing.
KillerOfSaints - 5/3/2010, 7:40 AM
Besides, the only connection is that they call themselves the Ten Rings. If they had the rings, dont you think you would have seen Mandarin.....
KillerOfSaints - 5/3/2010, 7:43 AM
Dunno if these observations are accurate but thumbs up for being an absolute comic maniac nut to notice all those details!
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