EDITORIAL: 10 Things I Want to See in the Superman/Batman 2015 Film

Recently, Zack Snyder has announced that the Man of Steel sequel will feature Batman as a character. In this Editorial, I share my thoughts on the upcoming movie and things I want to see.

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By RedHood13 - 7/21/2013

It has recently been announced that in 2015 (the same year as Avengers: Age of Ultron, Star Wars VII, and Fantastic Four ) there will be a Superman and Batman film. We currently now some of the producers (Including Nolan and his wife) and that David Goyer and Zack Snyder will be doing the story and Goyer will pen the script. These are my thought on the movie and what I think should happen in the film.

I Want to See Someone Other Than David S. Goyer Writing the Script!

Goyer is coming back for the script…NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO. Alright now that that’s out of the way, I’m really disappointed in Chris Nolan. Take same charge as Executive Producer, you kicked Goyer off after the first move too (Batman Begins) why can’t you do this with MOS. Just have him on story, but have your brother (The writer of TDK and TDKR) write the script and Goyer just be over story since MOS originally started in his brain.

I Want to See a New Crew!

There are too many people from the TDK Trilogy working on the crew of the movie which features Batman’s REBOOT !! Let’s count them off. Chris Nolan and Emma Thomas Executive Producers (2), David Goyer (3), Michael E. Uslan and Benjamin Melniker (5). Yes 5 people out of a whole crew is not a lot. But then we have Hans Zimmer who will most likely score this film, and other people that moved from TDKR to MOS. My point is all of the brains behind the TDK trilogy are now involved with Batman’s reboot. I feel that, that takes away from the reboot aspect and makes it seem more like a recast of a bunch of characters. Who knows, they might turn around and bring us Christian Bale…or JGL. That brings me to my next point.

I Want to See New Cast Members!

DO NOT BRING BACK ANY CAST MEMEBR FROM BATMAN BEGINS, THE DARK KNIGHT, OR THE DARK KNIGHT RISES!!!!!!. This is a reboot and we already have the whole creative from the last Batman installment coming back. It might be the perfect opportunity to continue the TDK trilogy, but we shouldn’t do that. We need a new person playing Bruce. I think someone fairly unknown like Christian Bale was at the time he was casted back in 2005. There’s 2 people I have in mind for the role, but the thing is one could play a great Batman, but not a great Bruce Wayne and vice versa. We just need someone who could be equally believable as both Bruce Wayne and Batman.

I Want to See Snyder’s Batman!

Out of all the news about the crew members I think this is my favorite one. Zack Snyder is returning. Snyder is a great director! His movies are always visually stunning and well crafted. He did great things for Superman and I think he would be the one to bring the freshness to the new Batman. He honestly would even be an ideal choice for a Batman solo film after the work he did with Rorschach in Watchmen.

I Want to See a Arkham Style Batman!

This has been said time and time again, but I want to see a new less realistic Batman, similar to the one in the Arkham games. One of the main points of making MOS was to put an unrealistic character in a realistic world and still keep the unrealism of the character there. A lot of people thought that Zack Snyder and Chris Nolan were making a realistic Superman. They weren’t they were putting an unrealistic character in the real world without changing the character. That’s what they need to do with Batman. Put all of the unrealistic stuff about Batman and put it on top of a realistic world.

I Want to See Batman Against Superman

Batman should almost be the villain for most of this movie. Bruce should partner with Luthor to make weapons powered by Kryptonite to tell Superman that he can and will be stopped if he doesn’t back down. Batman should instigate a fight between him and Superman so that he has the opportunity to use it on Superman. Batman should turn maybe halfway through the movie when Luthor decides to use the weapons that were supposed to warn Superman, to kill Superman.

I Want to See Kryptonite Used in a New Way!

Here’s my idea on how Kryptonite should be handled. In MOS we saw when Clark entered Zod’s ship which had the same atmosphere as Krypton he passed out. This happens in comics a lot when Superman is exposed to Kryptonite. In the comics when Superman is exposed to the Red Sun he just loses his powers. I feel that should be switched. Since the atmosphere affects Clark in the movie I think the red son should have the same affect. It makes logical sense. I think Kryptonite should only take his powers away. If Kryptonite is from Krypton and it makes Superman weak and pass out and sh*t, shouldn't that have happened to the Kryptonians when they were on Krypton.

I Wanna See Clark Kent!

I want to see Clark Kent, the bumbling clumsy reporter. Lois already knows his secret so that’s one person he doesn’t have to hide it from, but what about the rest of the world. The glasses don’t cut it. One thing I want to see in the movie is Lois telling Clark that he has to make his disguise better. She suggests that he slouches, wears baggy clothes that hide his muscle and his hair. While he is Superman he could change the tone of his voice as well since the public hasn’t heard him speak. Clark should go to a press conference held by Luthor and Bruce. Clark should ask Bruce a question that would make everyone go “OOOOOH, Burn!” in their head and Bruce should retort with a remark that makes Clark look stupid. Bruce should ask Clark his name and then say he admires him for not being the average reporter. Later on in the movie after a fight between Batman and Superman that Batman wins, Batman should acknowledge Clark Kent to Superman before leaving.

I Wanna See Bruce Wayne Done Right

Bruce Wayne, genius playboy billionaire philanthropist. I want to see that side of Bruce. I want to see Bruce pull up in a limo with 3 girls. That Bruce has not been shown in the movies. Almost like a less immature Tony Stark, who sneaks away sometimes to be Batman. That’s the Bruce Wayne I want to see.

I Want to see THE MOST BAD@$$ FIGHT TO EVER EXIST

I need the most badass fight on movie screens in the history of LIFE. This fight has the potential to be so much more than Superman kicking Batman’s ass, then Batman bringing in Kryptonite and then he kicks Supe’s ass. Watch the Superman vs. Batman fight from the Dark Knight Returns. Batman kicks Superman’s ass. Superman kicks Batman’s ass.

So that’s it! Tell me if you agree with my 10 things! DEUCES!!!
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gmoney0505 - 7/21/2013, 10:33 AM
Zack Snyder is over the movie so you're gonna get his version of the character and looking at his recent movies, you're gonna get a real fighting Batman that will probably fight like the watchmen fights but alot better. I like the way Zack cast his characters.

SO you're gonna get the best fight scenes in comics, a great cast for batman, Snyder's batman on screen. Great fight scenes for batman, and a epic fight for Supes and Batman. All the rest is just up in the air.

I want Batman to fight like got damn Ip man or at least somewhat close to him. Add in some gadgets and batarangs in between the punching and you have some great fight scenes against martial artists.

gmoney0505 - 7/21/2013, 10:38 AM
Let me add this I want Jay Olivia back on the story boards for the movie. He is the best story board artist in comic book animation and did very well in Man of Steel. Has delivered 3 of the best animated movies in The Dark Knight Returns 1&2 and Justice League: Flashpoint.

soda9 - 7/21/2013, 10:45 AM
Yes! This is a great write up! I agree with a lot of your points.

I didn't even remember that Zack directed Watchmen until you said it. Batman's fighting style should look amazing then. He would definitily be more like Rorschach.

@gmoney0505 Thumbs up!
bazinga85 - 7/21/2013, 10:46 AM
I agree with most of these points, especially the Goyer thing. I'm not gonna condemn this movie because of him and that's because I absolutely loved MoS, but I think they should have gone with another writer to compliment Snyder's fantastic directing. I disagree with you on the Bats working with Luthor point, I just don't see those two working together. Batman should be an amazing detective in this and should find out how to beat Supes on his own(kryptonite) without Luthor's help.
soda9 - 7/21/2013, 10:46 AM
Man...now I'm even more excited!!
soda9 - 7/21/2013, 10:48 AM
Another thing to add they should have a younger Batman that either the same age or two to three years older than Supes. It makes sense.

I also realized something. We'll probably see a new Alfred, Commissioner Gordon, etc. and possibly Robin! Holy crap.
bazinga85 - 7/21/2013, 10:55 AM
@gmoney
Ip man was boss
Irons - 7/21/2013, 11:19 AM
"Bruce Wayne, genius playboy billionaire philanthropist. I want to see that side of Bruce. I want to see Bruce pull up in a limo with 3 girls. That Bruce has not been shown in the movies. Almost like a less immature Tony Stark, who sneaks away sometimes to be Batman. That’s the Bruce Wayne I want to see."

You're right. We haven't seen that. The one we've seen prefers to show up with 3 girls by helicopter.


TheSonOfKrypton - 7/21/2013, 11:20 AM
@LinkavitchChumofsky 'It doesn't matter who's playing Batman, all we have to see is his chin'

Batman is a goddamn bad-ass and I'm pretty sure isn't solely defined by his chin. Thank god you're not a casting director.
TheSonOfKrypton - 7/21/2013, 11:25 AM
In other news, great write up. The only additional thing I'd like to address is that, as much as we need to see Clark Kent in all his humility and awkwardness, we really need to see Superman in this film, especially if he's going to share a screen with Batman.
In 'Man Of Steel' we saw Kal-El.
It's about high time we, and the Caped Crusader, come to terms with SUPERMAN.
TheSonOfKrypton - 7/21/2013, 11:26 AM
Anson Mount for Batman.
Minotauro - 7/21/2013, 11:46 AM
Goyer is penning this movie. Plain and simple. You'll get the fight scenes. And most diffidently think Batman will resemble the Arkham look knowing Snyder's flair for flashy costumes. Only thing I want to know now is who is the Villain? Luthor? A mixture of Batman's Rogues and Luthor? Joker and Luthor? Hmmmm...............
TheSonOfKrypton - 7/21/2013, 11:53 AM
@Minotauro I'd be hesitant if they used Joker with Ledger's portrayal so dear to both us and, more importantly, the general audience. I'm also struggling to think as to who they will choose, as it more or less either has to be Lex and another villain (since just Lex would be stupid given Superman faces him solo on multiple occasions and wins), or one villain so powerful it takes the full might of both heroes to defeat them, yet not too powerful or else the Justice League will be short changed.

In short, [frick].
gmoney0505 - 7/21/2013, 12:09 PM
The villains I want are Brainiac, Luthor, and Parasite. Brainiac being a villain behind the scenes till like the last 2 minutes while Luthor and Parasite being the main 2 baddies. Luthor and Brainiac have been working together to find a way to unlock the Metagene in humans (This gene was purposely blocked by the Martians with experiments on humans from 1000's of yrs ago. Great way to connect this to Manhunter). They find it in Parasite in which he can go toe to toe with Superman because he can suck in Supes powers and use them against him. The Meta gene gives a reason for Brainiac to come to Earth and not destroy it like he does his other planets. I wwould like for Brainiac or Luthor to release it on Earth and give Earth some Metahumans in the process. This gives Bruce a reason other than help rebuild Metropolis to come in MOS2 to investigate this findings.
TheSonOfKrypton - 7/21/2013, 1:01 PM
Scarecrow? Really?
TheYoungMan - 7/21/2013, 1:09 PM
I like your strategy, MAC. Tell yourself that 2015 will be a disappointment for you, to make sure that just incase it comes true, it won't hurt as much :)

Just remember that Goyer wrote Batman Begins, which I think is better than anything Whedon has come up with.
ForeverPowerful - 7/21/2013, 1:20 PM
If Snyder is creating this new version of Batman with the help of Goyer and a bit of Nolan flair, I can imagine the end product will be a bit of flash with a dark serious tone. Goyer is good with sticking with the source material but at the same time adding a bit of his own twist on it.

If he ends up being a mixture of Rorschach and Nite Owl from Watchmen, I could see it working. Batman fighting like Rorschach fighting the police, or Nite Owl in the prison, or Ozymandias at the end wouldn't be too bad I guess.
GageHarts - 7/21/2013, 1:27 PM
@irons I was about to post that
JULEZ13 - 7/21/2013, 1:32 PM
Great article. I agree with almost every little thing you said besides changing the Kryptonite and the whole bumbling reporter, CK.

Christopher Reeve invented the stupid, bumbling reporter. CK was not originally like that in the comics. Lets let that die with the Donner-verse. That is definitely not needed. Also, his muscles were pretty well hidden in the plaid shirt he wore at the end of MOS when he arrived at the DP. The glasses and the messy hair also helped hide his appearance well enough. You would have to get a real, closeup look at both Superman and Clark, then imagine Clark with slicked back hair and no glasses to really see that they are one and the same.

Everything else though, you are spot on.

I am also weary about bringing Nolan's TDK production group. I don't want this to be another take on their Batman - just with a younger actor. But Snyder likes the more fantastical things, so I am sure he will give us a new, more badass Batman so I'm not worried to much about it.
JULEZ13 - 7/21/2013, 1:42 PM
Not having Lex and Joker combine forces in the first every World's Finest film is a tragedy.

I say, we move on from Heath's Joker. As amazing as it was, we can't never use the best villain in comic book history all because the last guy who portrayed him better than anyone before him died?!? Heath Ledger does not own the Joker. We need to move on from that. Batman will suffer without a Joker. Its a ying and yang thing.

I hope they surprise everyone and choose Joker to make a surprise appearance. Don't tell anyone until the film actually debuts.

It'll be a HUGE Easter Egg/Cameo. I don't see how people will disapprove, especially if it's a great performance.

A thought just came to me! How about Bradley Cooper for the Joker!?! People love him!! And he looks the part and he's a pretty damn good actor!! Give him the role; people will be interested!!
marvel72 - 7/21/2013, 1:45 PM
i want to see NO F*CKIN SHAKY CAM!
MrCBM56 - 7/21/2013, 1:45 PM
"I want to see the most bad ass fight"

No. It should not be bad ass. Super-man should be able to fight batman with ease. I wouldn't mind if Batman beat him intellectually though.
fishybashi - 7/21/2013, 1:50 PM
Jonathan Nolan needs to help here. I don't trust Goyer alone. Snyder is a great visuals director, but as a story writer? I don't want a Sucker Punch all over again. Hope this doesn't become disastrous.
fishybashi - 7/21/2013, 2:16 PM
Bale/Cavill - billion dollar movie. 2015 way too soon after TDKR to reboot Batman. 95% of the movie going public will be utterly confused if this Batman is 1) not Bale or 2) not semi-retired. Rebooting Batman throws away the world that has already been beautifully created in The Dark Knight Trilogy.
JULEZ13 - 7/21/2013, 2:21 PM
@fishybashi - The TDK trilogy is over. It's done! It doesn't fit into the DCCU that is being built. Bale doesn't want to come back anyway. It's time to let go and look forward to the future!
Morbius - 7/21/2013, 2:48 PM
I agree with everythink u just typed!!!!!!
EdgyOutsider - 7/21/2013, 3:47 PM
Zack Snyder a great director? Quit hogging up the green. Seriously, he has made a brilliant movie (Watchmen), a great movie (Dawn of the Dead) and an enjoyable movie (Man of Steel). The rest are shit. The fact.he is doing more than directing already tells me this is going to be Suckerpunch 2.
Chaplin - 7/21/2013, 4:00 PM
"If Kryptonite is from Krypton and it makes Superman weak and pass out and sh*t, shouldn't that have happened to the Kryptonians when they were on Krypton."

The reason Supes passed out on the ship was because his body was not used to the Kryptonian atmosphere. Furthermore, Kryptonite is nothing but a crystal on Krypton. On earth, boosted by our yellow sun, it becomes lethal. And about the whole Bruce Wayne playboy thing, in the first one he entered a five star hotel with 2 hot european women, dissed The Batman, swam with them in a fish tank/pool in the hotel restaurant and subsequently purchased said hotel. In TDK he crashed his own fundraiser for Dent by litterally swooping in in a helicopter with three women........ So yeah...
SkullFace616 - 7/21/2013, 4:40 PM
I'm really liking the idea of Deathstroke and Deadshot. If they DO re-cast Joker though, I want Christian Camargo

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MrDonut - 7/21/2013, 5:09 PM
I agree with most of your points, and in turn leave you (all) something 2 mull over; Jack Huston as Batman!


He's pretty unknown but is a clearly talented, soon to be powerhouse of an actor- his work on Boardwalk Empire qualifies him 4 the Bat!
Marxman12 - 7/21/2013, 5:54 PM
I'm really thinking Superman/Batman: Apocolypse might be a good framework for the movie but instead of Darkseid manipulating Kara its Lex Luthor. Kara was mentioned in the prequel and Kal-el believes he is responsible for killing the last Kryptonian, it makes a lot of sense for Kara to be in the film.
Aiolia - 7/21/2013, 7:16 PM
If it's not Nolan's Batman, it'll be a total mess. We need Bale back!
SpunGun405 - 7/21/2013, 7:35 PM
So you are telling me you have not seen in the movies a Bruce Wayne that gets out od cars with 3 hot girls?? Have you even seen the Dark Knight Trilogy? What an epic fail since Batman Begins makes a point of that. The Dark Knight He gets out of a chopper at Dents fundraiser with 2 hot models. The whole point of the Trilogy was about Bruce Wayne! Get out of town. I do agree with the Arkum Asylum game version of Batman though if we dont get Bale back.
SpunGun405 - 7/21/2013, 7:37 PM
Luke Evans would be a good Batman by the way!
MBZ1993 - 7/21/2013, 7:40 PM
didnt synder say he will co write it with goyer this time?
InFamouslyCool - 7/21/2013, 7:50 PM
Bruce needs to be classy debonair playboy, not a disrespectful womanizing douchebag like Tony Stark. Nolan's Bruce was a bit too douchey.
broncodave83 - 7/21/2013, 9:26 PM
I'm sorry but I don't see how batman can beat up superman unless they introduce kryptonite somehow or batman has a suit like iron mans which would just be silly.
htijner - 7/21/2013, 10:31 PM
I agree with Marxman12, I think the movie will feature Kara with Lex or some other villain trying to manipulate her. Batman and superman fight and then team up to stop Kara. Wouldn't be surprised to see Wonderwoman thrown into it somehow.

I have a feeling that Bale will reprise the role as Batman...the studio will make him an offer similar to the one RDJ has with Disney/ marvel, that he won't be able to refuse.
TheMetzTheory - 7/22/2013, 8:04 AM
You do realize that Nolan never kicked Goyer off of the Dark Knight series, right? Goyer was involved in the story for all three. Even if you wanted to argue that Goyer shouldn't write the story alone after Man of Steel you wouldn't be accurate. He came up with the story with the same guy he did with the Dark Knight movies, Chris Nolan.

I do not get this Goyer hate, makes no sense.
Pitt - 7/22/2013, 8:56 AM
"If it's not Nolan's Batman, it'll be a total mess. We need Bale back!" - Aiolia

Bale's Batman would mean more butts in the theaters, and his Batman can work. Kryptionan Tech + Batsuit = The Animated Series Batman on film. Bring back Bale and it will compete for #3 highest grossing film.
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