EDITORIAL: Should Wolverine Become a Member of The Fantastic Four in The Film Reboot?

The Fantastic Four film reboot is on the rise and many rumors and concerns have been strongly hit by fans. For this film to be successful I have an idea about placing another familiar character within the franchise, read on fans.

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By PsychoManiacJacky - 12/25/2013


Hello everyone, as known right now Fox is desperately struggling to get the Fantastic Four reboot off the ground. It seems a rumored plot description has come out which has upset many fans. Not only that but the casting of much younger actors as they also want to try to get a sense of appeal towards another generation. It's just a mess right now. With the last two Fantastic Four films considered a comic book failure, we have to wonder who's fault is it really. Is the Fantastic Four just becoming too much of an old fashioned concept people don't care about anymore? Are characters like Reed Richards and The Invisible Woman just a product of their times when they first graced the comic book world, did writers have trouble adapting these characters for the modern times? There are many questions you could ask regarding the matter. It doesn't excuse the matter of where to look directly at.



Let's look at the original the Fantastic Four concept in mind. Terrible cosmic radiation accident happens and five people get superpowers. One of them vows to use their powers for evil and tyranny while the other four vow to use their powers in the name of good and protecting the Earth, while also being extremely famous. Does this sound like an entirely good concept you to? Where is the punch in it and where is the real drama that takes place in the middle. Which is why the 2005 Fantastic Four film was flawed, there is no real meaty portions to divulge from the middle so they had to create their own unique representation to try and fit the film. Then after the typical plot line of them being famous and learning to use their powers while many hi-jinks ensues they come at clash ends with Dr.Doom then that's it. Then in Rise of The Silver Surfer cosmic beings like aliens suddenly exist in the universe without any rhyme or reason. Yes the Fantastic Four's own powers were cosmic related but it didn't take mention of cosmic being within the universe in the first film. So basically we all know the story of The Silver Surfer and him being the herald of...Galactus Cloud? Then Dr.Doom is back in the story yet again, yay? Well that sure ended those films. Now it's the reboot which fans are worrying and I see why.

I believe successfully bring in a concept like Fantastic Four which has had a previous failure towards the audience needs a recognizable character. As we currently speak right now Fox is trying to figure out those answers. Which is why I would strongly suggest for them to slightly start over but not by to much. Josh Trank would be a perfect director for this film, well even though he didn't really direct all of Chronicle and most of it was done by the actors. I could see potential in Trank to make this a great film, if it was in found footage style which I wouldn't mind at all. What I am really trying to suggest is for them to replace one of the Fantastic Four with another character that is more well known. Hence the title of the article. I would say Spider-Man since he was a member of the Fantastic Four a few times but unfortunately Sony has the rights. Which is where I suggest, Wolverine.



Wolverine was a member of a short lived team called The New Fantastic Four during the 90s which consisted of not only him but Spider-Man, Hulk, and Ghost Rider. Also on top of that Fox has the rights to Wolverine. They have made him a well known comic book character in film already with there amazing efforts. Recently he held his own once again in The Wolverine and with the success of that film a sequel is underway. One question many fans have in mind, is there such thing as too much Wolverine? Well non sense there is no such thing but maybe in portions. He was a popular character way before the first X-Men film. Everyone loves this character and he is well known. Which is what I believe the Fantastic Four needs. I know some fans would be upset at such a decision but lets face it, last two films sunk and failed. Add Wolverine and you have your character power that would drive the audiences and general audiences to actually see and want the film. Fans could argue nearly every single X-Men revolved around him, but it's important to know he was never the main character.

If they were to add in Wolverine on the team what characters would they keep? Importantly you would still need Reed Richards as the team leader and the main scientific mind of the group, without him there wouldn't be a Fantastic Four. Yes you would need Sue Storm on the team who represents the kind and gentle heart. Then you would need Johnny Storm the wisecracker and funny guy who also does have interesting dynamics with Sue Storm. Ben Grimm better known as The Thing on the other hand. He is the main strong guy or brute of the team better known for his phrase, "It's Clobberin' Time!". He often comes at wits end with Johnny Storm as they constantly make fun of each other. He is a great character and he was one of the best parts of the previous Fantastic Four films played by Michael Chiklis. Although all of that he would be the one I would choose for Wolverine to replace. They do both have similar qualities but one just outweighs the other which I will explain.

How would Wolverine exactly work on the team? Another concern would be is that if does it need to directly be in canon with the X-Men films to work or can it fit within within separate universe. That would depend on the exact timeline the film would be placed in. Even though "X-Men Origins Wolverine" was supposed to be technically placed in canon with the other X-Men films, it is not anymore due to the timeline shifts. So there is a film with Wolverine which has been placed in it's own universe if you look at it in that stand point. Meaning the Fantastic Four wouldn't exactly need to start in their universe but rather branch off from a specific verse similar to that. Then the issue of how mutation and how cosmic derived mutation could both coexist in the same relevant pattern. How are the Fantastic Four living the life of celebrity stardom and the rest of the people in the world with similar powers are just living down under? That is a theme it could take notice of within the film.

A theme about life in general. A struggle between the "rich and the poor" type message meaning the rest of them on the other end. How has humanity not come in terms with understanding them. Many of those messages could be conveyed through Wolverine being apart of the team. Then there you have it, the intense dramatic element it needs to keep it's momentum going. You could still make it true to the spirit of Fantastic Four, all it needs is just another later added on to it. This would be the layer it needs to hold it together. As interesting as The Thing was his issues were more self focused towards himself and his appearance on how he could never be normal again. If you add the Wolverine element there is no longer a self focus but now a multi focus since Wolverine is in fact an actual mutant and he was never really normal. Then the element of other mutants out there like him who are feared by humanity as I mentioned while people such as Reed Richards are not. It doesn't need to have that drama which was presented in the X-Men films but a layer of it to add on the story itself. For the story to be more self reflective or aware of times at hand and not just anything else.

The family and friendship dynamic between the Fantastic Four was fun but I think it's time to put a stray of those themes aside and drive more into serious territory. Not exactly darker grounds as nearly every single comic book film is trying in these days but more so a mixed element. It doesn't need to have facts based on realism or origins based on realism. The true realism it only needs is the world they are in and the people that are within the world. The Fantastic Four still needs to be fantastic.

Well that about ends this editorial. I am 100% serious towards my thoughts and opinions on this. What would you think of this idea if it was going to happen? Would you agree on the fact of adding the strong issue of humanity would hold the story together? Voice out your thoughts and opinions in the comments below. Thank you for reading!



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LEEE777 - 12/25/2013, 1:31 PM
He's got no time being in the FF, he's gotta keep all the X-MEN movies alive coz FOX thinks without Logan, their films will blow.

I got a better idea, FOX lets them all go and maybe Hugh can do that Avengers thing in the future at Marvel Studios!

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PrinceOfCrime - 12/25/2013, 1:35 PM
for [frick]s sake.. NOO!! WOlverine should just go. Let the F4 just be like the comics, is it really that hard to leave something like it is [frick]ing bryan singer
pesmerga44 - 12/25/2013, 1:51 PM
Sorry but this idea is so stupid and insulting to the FF team they can star in their own movie and they have tons of lore to pull from. Fox just needs to find a competent writer and director to make this movie work.
DEVLIN712 - 12/25/2013, 1:52 PM
It's impossible to hate a Jacky article
DEVLIN712 - 12/25/2013, 1:55 PM
Everyone saying this is stupid
Calm down people, Jacky is only rights about the most important topics in the current CBM world, he's the most serious writer on this website, I don't think he's ever wrote anything that wouldn't improve CBMs 100%, He's totally and utterly serious
DEVLIN712 - 12/25/2013, 1:56 PM
*Jacky only writes
PsychoManiacJacky - 12/25/2013, 2:18 PM
God bless you too, Fangz :)
BenjiWest - 12/25/2013, 2:44 PM
Can they add him to the Avengers? Sinister Six? Guardians of the Galaxy? Justice League??
DrDoom - 12/25/2013, 3:02 PM
The Fantastic Four should be Wolverine and three clones of Wolverine

A team of Wolverines

How do you lose?
NovaCorpsFan - 12/25/2013, 3:34 PM
I love how all of you comic book nerds haven't realised Jacky's mistake.

Doom had nothing to do with the space mission on which they gained powers.
NovaCorpsFan - 12/25/2013, 3:35 PM
AND

Wolverine has been in the FF.
GliderMan - 12/25/2013, 3:58 PM
cars age has
QuestiontheAnswer - 12/25/2013, 4:10 PM
Nothing can save the F4 movie.
BANE5000 - 12/25/2013, 6:17 PM
Without even reading the article i can say no...No...NOOOO :]
pesmerga44 - 12/25/2013, 9:00 PM
Sorry I still disagree completely on shoehorning in Wolverine. The reason the first FF films failed were for a number of reasons directing was bad, writing was bad, and most of the actors will bad picks for their roles. Michael Chiklis and Chris Evans were the only good parts of those movies. They really got the dynamic of the two characters and of their relationship those two were great. Jessica Alba, Ioan Gruffudd, and Julian McMahon really didn't fit their roles and really brought nothing to their characters.

Sure Wolverine was on a short lived FF team but I say so what. He really doesn't fit the dynamic of the FF and this would scream to the world as nothing more then a publicity stunt to get more money for FF. Like I said earlier the FF have a great mythos to work off of that can go so many places and best of all they have one of Marvel's greatest villains as their arch nemesis. Fox needs to just find a competent writer and director to make this movie.
ManCalledSting - 12/26/2013, 4:03 AM
Do people edit, or proof read their shit before they post it? I dropped out after the fourth mistake, which was early.
LEEE777 - 12/26/2013, 4:09 AM
I did read it?

And a big no... FANTASTIC FOUR needs to be at MARVEL STUDIOS where it belongs ;)
HOTSHOT - 12/26/2013, 5:26 AM
LEEE777, like every Marvel hero.

Seriously though, bring Wolverine into the Avengers if anywhere. Do we need him? Not really, but it's a much better outing for him than the FF. If anything, Spidey should be teaming up with the Fantastic Four already.
NovaCorpsFan - 12/26/2013, 5:30 AM
The Amazing Bag-Man!

I read the editorial, Jacky. I seriously wouldn't mind them putting Wolvie on the team.
CorndogBurglar - 12/26/2013, 5:36 AM
I used to hate Jacky's articles with a passion. Mostly because they were just trying to be too edgy and it was easy to see.

Now, though? His articles make me laugh because they are just stupid ideas. I've slowly come around to liking him.

HOTSHOT - 12/26/2013, 8:11 AM
@ Nova, 'Bombastic' Bag Man actually, but yeah. The day I see that happen in the movies, I will be one happy Fanman.
GinjaNinja - 12/26/2013, 8:27 AM
jacky is so smart
thejon93rd - 12/26/2013, 10:34 AM
Fox needs to saddle up and make an R-rated Wolverine movie already. None of their X-Men films have earned more than $500,000,000 worldwide. Only four R-rated films are among the top 100 highest-grossing films of all-time, yet no X-Men movie appears among those top 100. So let's try out an R-rated Wolverine movie, let's see if it can earn as much as 300 did (I think it can earn more and it could be able to top The Matrix: Reloaded as the highest-grossing R-rated film worldwide with a good enough story and the right amount of carnage). If 3 hour PG-13 films can earn over a billion worldwide, I'm sure that a 2 hour, R-rated Wolverine film can earn at least half a billion, if not more.
Splenda - 12/26/2013, 12:28 PM
god i hate you…

NinjaBaby - 1/3/2014, 10:29 AM
I really like Wolverine but, I'd really like if he stuck to his the other 12 movies he's been apart of and left The Fantastic four alone!

If anything have Doctor Doom tie in to the X-men or Galactus a villain big enough for the 2 TEAMS to combine I'd be ok with that...Now with that said I'm going to read this article.
AvengersRock - 1/12/2014, 9:31 AM
So, we haven't heard any definite FF castings news. This seems really odd, since it's scheduled to be in theaters in March 2015, just 14 months from now.

I'm sure it will be postponed again. Does anyone know the deadline of when it will revert to Marvel?

While I understand the argument that Marvel makes money off these movies that other studios make, FF is too integral to the Marvel Universe, with many of its villains also villains for Avengers and others. It would be great to have FF (along with Galactus and Doom) back in the MCU.

Also, X-Men and FF in the same universe just doesn't make sense and seems forced. I'm sure they could make it work, but it's not ideal. X-Men could be a large enough universe by itself, with X-Men, X-Force, X-Factor, New Mutants, Wolverine, Deadpool, etc.

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