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Smallville Producer on the Justice League and Plans For Season 10

Executive Producer Brian Peterson has revealed plans for the return of the Justice League and hints at more Superman in Season 10!
In a recent interview with TV Guide, Smallville executive producer Brian Peterson said:

"I would say we will see members of the future Justice League who we haven’t seen in a while. They will appear in the Justice Society episode and in the back section of the season. I can’t confirm who you will see, a lot of it is cast dependent. But we do have plans to have a few more members of the future JLA back on the show."

Peterson also spoke about the direction that the potential 10th season of 'Smallville' would take.

"I think our plan right now is a reflection over the 9 years and taking him out of the darkness that we’ve had, with him in the black suit and where he went after Jimmy’s death, and taking him to a place of balancing his Kryptonian side and his human side,"

"It would be him learning how to be Clark Kent and the entity that will be known as Superman.

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54 Comments

First and o yea im psyched
IronMarvel - 11/25/2009, 9:58 AM
love this show but if they go with a season10 he needs to be a legit Superman not the blur! he is what? 24 in the show now? he needs to be superman! before him and lois get anymore serious
THABATMAN - 11/25/2009, 11:03 AM
This news is good.
6of13 - 11/25/2009, 11:04 AM
"It will basically be what we've been doing for five seasons. Slower it is the more we can cash this cow."
antz1104 - 11/25/2009, 11:06 AM
Josh: Why did you have to put in that image of Welling as Supes? I think I'm going to be sick...
InTylerWeTrust82 - 11/25/2009, 12:04 PM
MisterUnderhill: Yeah, I almost stopped watching the show after last season but Season 9 has for the most part been excellent! Still wish they'd kill off Chloe though... :P

TYLER: LMAO! C'mon man, its not that bad! ;D Wouldnt you at least like to see him as a small screen Superman?
JoshW - 11/25/2009, 12:11 PM
What a sh1t picture i cringe him ever being SUPERMAN!!

Well for the movies anyway lol! : D

ROUTH all the way!!!
LEEE777 - 11/25/2009, 12:16 PM
Hey wait a [frick]ing minute, i posted this same article THREE days ago an i didn't make main??????

http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/SuperGamer/news/?a=12096

And i [frick]ed about with lots of JSA PICS etc for the damn article lol.


Still kudos yours went up @ JOSH. ; )
LEEE777 - 11/25/2009, 12:19 PM
Josh: It's a good manip, but he shouldn't ever even touch the cape.

The only thing Superman he should wear are Superman pajamas, and even THAT'S a stretch!
InTylerWeTrust82 - 11/25/2009, 12:19 PM
The second part of this season is going to be sick. He will make a good Superman on the show but i think id have to see him with some better lines before i would wanna see him as Supes in a movie.
drizzle123 - 11/25/2009, 12:43 PM
In responce to Brian Peterson's comment

"I would say we will see members of the future Justice League who we haven’t seen in a while. They will appear in the Justice Society episode and in the back section of the season. I can’t confirm who you will see, a lot of it is cast dependent. But we do have plans to have a few more members of the future JLA back on the show."

Ok, riddle me this, he says "we will see members of the future Justice League who we haven’t seen in a while" which suggests people like Impuse and Cyborg who were already on the show, but then he says

"But we do have plans to have a few more members of the future JLA back on the show."

Isnt this redundant? I think what he MEANT to say was

"I would say we will see members of the future Justice League who we haven’t seen in any prior episodes. They will appear in the Justice Society episode and in the back section of the season. I can’t confirm who you will see, a lot of it is cast dependent. But we do have plans to have a few more members of the future JLA back on the show."

This would then mean that you will see JLA characters you havent seen before as well as those who have appeared in the past.

So, my question for you fine outstanding people is this, who havent we seen yet that will finally make an appearence? This is the list of JLA characters from the JLA Unlimited TV series thanks to wikipedia and who did the voices for the characters.

Check out who did the voice for Wally West, Captain Atom, Hawk, Metamorpho, Mister Miracle, Orion, Vigilante, Vixen, Crimson Avenger.

After looking over the list of those who have not already appeared on the show, this is who I THINK will most likely make an appearence (in no particular order)

John Stewart/Green Lantern
Bruce Wayne/Batman
Princess Diana/Wonder Woman
Shayera Hol/Hawkgirl
Captain Marvel
Huntress
Red Tornado

After that its up in the air. We already know of the list below that Stargirl, Hawkman, and Dr. Fate are coming. Black Canary, Cyborg, Aquaman, Zatanna, Impulse/Flash and Supergirl will definitly be back.

Founding members
George Newbern - Clark Kent / Kal El / Superman
Kevin Conroy - Bruce Wayne / Batman
Susan Eisenberg - Princess Diana / Wonder Woman
Michael Rosenbaum - Wally West / The Flash
Carl Lumbly - J'onn Jonnz / Martian Manhunter
Phil LaMarr - John Stewart/Green Lantern
Maria Canals Barrera - Shayera Hol / Hawkgirl

Expanded League Members
Scott Rummell - Arthur Curry / Aquaman
John C. McGinley - Ray Palmer / The Atom
Scott Patterson - Aztek
Farrah Forke - Big Barda
Morena Baccarin - Black Canary
Lex Lang - Blue Devil
Tom Everett Scott - Booster Gold
Peter Onorati - B'wana Beast
George Eads/Chris Cox - Nathaniel Adam / Captain Atom
Jerry O'Connell - Captain Marvel
Oded Fehr - Doctor Fate
Lauren Tom - Doctor Light
Jason Hervey - Dove
Jeremy Piven - Ralph Dibny/Elongated Man
Michael T. Weiss - Etrigan the Demon/Jason Blood
Maria Canals Barrera - Fire
Kin Shriner - Oliver Queen/Green Arrow
Fred Savage - Hawk
James Remar - Carter Hall/Hawkman
Amy Acker - Huntress
Gregg Rainwater - Long Shadow
Tom Sizemore - Metamorpho
Ioan Gruffudd - Mister Miracle
Michael Beach - Mister Terrific
Ron Perlman - Orion
Jeffrey Combs - The Question
Powers Boothe - Red Tornado
Chris Cox - Shining Knight
Billy West - Skeets
Giselle Loren - Stargirl
Phil LaMarr- Virgil Hawkins/Static, Steel, and S.T.R.I.P.E.
Nicholle Tom - Kara Zor-El/Kara Kent/Supergirl
Nathan Fillion (Michael Rosenbaum in "Task Force X") - Vigilante
Gina Torres - Vixen
Dennis Farina - Ted Grant / Wildcat
Jennifer Hale - Zatanna
Kevin Conroy - Crimson Avenger

So, who you think will make an appearence. let me know I'd love to know what you all think. thanks

Brian
brianj22 - 11/25/2009, 1:02 PM
i feel like ive heard this same exact bullshit for the past 3 years of this show
Duhdaduh - 11/25/2009, 1:27 PM
I think this season is great and should have happened 4 years ago. Talk about WHOLE SEASONS of b.s. Seriously the characters don't need 10 seasons of development. I'm starting to think Clark is REALLY slow in the head.
antz1104 - 11/25/2009, 1:30 PM
brianj22 - That listing is accurate for the JLA cartoon, but I STRONGLY recommend that you check out the old JL of A issues from 1960 - 1984, even if they're reprints! It will give you a stronger sense of the TRUE flavor of the Justice League; the Identity Crisis maxi-series did a good job of capturing it!

BTW, I'm not sure that Supergirl will be coming back, as the actress that plays her is now on ABC's "V", which is doing well in the ratings. Also, I don't think Zatanna or Martian Manhunter have officially joined the group yet, and I believe Warner Bros. is STILL restricting the show's producers from using Batman and WW! And Black Canary badly needs to be recast!!
JonF - 11/25/2009, 1:52 PM
BLack Lightning would work :]
Set2Fallfirst - 11/25/2009, 2:44 PM
Bring in Batman and I'll be happy. Seeing that I'm probably one of the few female viewers
Diamond1995 - 11/25/2009, 2:48 PM
more cyborg...but we need wonder woman in smallville
Anil Rickly - 11/25/2009, 2:57 PM
MisterUnderhill: I have, and you know who else played a gay character? Heath Ledger.

Dude, the role was a 5 minute (not even) one in a comedy about two people making a porno, and you're judging him on that?

Routh got a bad script, with a less than competent Superman director. He got a raw deal, and was told to do a Reeves impression by Singer.

And also, we get it already. Every post related to Superman has your new slogan all over it. WE GET THE POINT!
InTylerWeTrust82 - 11/25/2009, 3:19 PM
MisterUnderhill: Thats a great movie but I have to agree - Routh's acting was as wooden as when he played Superman!

I dont think I want to see Welling as a BIG screen Superman but I'd love to see him don the costume in a follow up TV show to Smallville (Metropolis maybe?)

I think they need to cut all ties with the abomination that was Superman Returns and cast a whole new actor - Im yet to see Routh in any movie that Im actually impresed by his performance in!
JoshW - 11/25/2009, 3:22 PM
HOLY SH1T @ Brianj !!!! ; D

UNDERHILL @ Yeah ive got the DVD cool comedy!!

JOSH @ Im sorry man but BRANDON ROUTH is ten times the actor of JENSEN ACKLES and you know it!! ; D

Bwahahhahhahahhahha!!

LEEE777 - 11/25/2009, 3:30 PM
LEE: What the hell has Jensen Ackles got to do with anything!?!
JoshW - 11/25/2009, 3:42 PM
Well, the only thing (I assume) you've seen Routh in Josh is Returns, where he had a bad script and a bad director to work with, and Zack and Miri, where he had a cameo.

Personally, Routh was great in Returns. The script/Singer called for a Reeves impression, and Routh did what they asked. He was great as both Clark and Superman, even though he didn't have enough solid scenes to work with, and he was written/directed to be a Superman that we didn't want.

And don't give me the "he would have shone through the bad script if he was a good actor!" thing. So, by that logic, Christian Bale is a bad actor for Equilibrium, Malcolm McDowell is a bad actor for Tank Girl, and yes, CHRISTOPHER REEVES is a bad actor for Superman 4.

We didn't want another Reeves performance, but we got one because of Singer and the script. If he was given a solid script and a good director (JJ Abrams) then he would do even better than in Returns.

Welling is the definition of wooden acting, and has not only managed to make Clark unlikeable as f*ck, but annoying as f*ck to match that. Also, he's not even enthusiastic about the role either, he's never talking about how great the role is, hell, it only took him about 8 years to take the trip to Comic-Con for the fans of his show. Routh, whenever asked about returning (pun intended) as Supes, always gives an enthusiastic response and says he would love to come back.

Until anyone can give me a better choice than Routh, I stand by him as my choice for Superman. So yeah.
InTylerWeTrust82 - 11/25/2009, 3:47 PM
In responce to the following comments from JonF

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"That listing is accurate for the JLA cartoon, but I STRONGLY recommend that you check out the old JL of A issues from 1960 - 1984, even if they're reprints! It will give you a stronger sense of the TRUE flavor of the Justice League; the Identity Crisis maxi-series did a good job of capturing it!"

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I did check it out but JLA page on Wiki and according to them it says:

First appearing in The Brave and the Bold #28 (1960), the League originally appeared with a line-up that included Superman, Batman, Wonder Woman, Flash, Green Lantern, Aquaman, and the Martian Manhunter. However, the team roster has been rotated throughout the years with characters such as Green Arrow, Atom, Hawkman, Black Canary, Captain Marvel, Zatanna, Plastic Man, and dozens of others. Throughout the years, various incarnations or subsections of the team have also operated as Justice League America, Justice League Europe, Justice League International, Justice League Task Force, Justice League Elite, and Extreme Justice.

Based on that most of those characters are convered on the list from JLU. Because the JLA universe is a massive as it is my theory is theyd only bring someone on board that late into the season unless it was a major character. Besides we dont know if Smallville will use the Identity Crisis maxi-series as source material. To me my money is on Wonder Woman or Green Lantern.

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"BTW, I'm not sure that Supergirl will be coming back, as the actress that plays her is now on ABC's "V", which is doing well in the ratings. Also, I don't think Zatanna or Martian Manhunter have officially joined the group yet"

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Supergirl is DEFINITY coming back even if Laura Vandervoort doesnt reprise her role. It happens all the time in the industry that someone from one show shows up in another. In fact Cassidy Freeman just showed up on an episode on CSI for one episode. Laura isnt comeing back for an entire season. just one or two so trust me, if they want here back and its doable scheduling wise, she has alreayd said she will do it.

Also you must have missed the annoucements that Zatanna and Martian Manhunter will be coming back. They were announced a couple of weeks ago.

Also, since ive brought this up on severel occasions, the Smallville Season 9 trailor shows all of the JLA characters that have been on Smallville before are back this season. Here is the trailor for it.

http://www.comicbookmovie.com/superman_movies/smallville/news/?a=8842

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"I believe Warner Bros. is STILL restricting the show's producers from using Batman and WW! And Black Canary badly needs to be recast!!"

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Batman will probably not be on so my guess is it will be someone more like WW or GL, but who knows. If you saw the promo for the JSA 2 hr episode than you saw someone wearing the Green Lantern Ring so my guess is GL will make an appearence in one of his incarnations.

According to Wiki he has been
Alan Scott
Hal Jordan
Guy Gardner
John Stewart
Kyle Rayner
Jade (comics)

Im thinking it is either John Stewart or Guy Gardner bu who knows and who cares its GREEN FRICKEN LANTERN!!

:)

There is no movie in production for WW so she can be used, batman is the tough one to get one and Nolan hasnt even said hes doing another batman just yet so they could use Bruce Wayne and not batman per say. But who knows this is smallville.

I agred with you on Black Canary. I have no fricken idea why when she is listed as a "blonde Bombshell; You dont cast someone who is. No offense to the chic who players her but she was poorly cast in the role.
brianj22 - 11/25/2009, 3:55 PM
TYLER: I dont think that Welling would be a better choice than Routh and you're completely right with pretty much every point you make! Despite that I still think a new actor is needed if the franchise is going to have a fresh start! Im not sure WHO exactly at the moment but once I've finished working on my Punisher Fan Cast I'll start my Superman one, lol!
JoshW - 11/25/2009, 4:09 PM
I've thought for 7-8 years that Bruce Wayne (if not Batman) should guest on the show... I think a rivalry leading to friendship between Bruce and Clark would make a great episode. But what do I know? My collection of comics only dates back to the 1940's so I am really not familiar with any of this.
batfan39 - 11/25/2009, 4:37 PM
I think you are right batfan. I think once smallville comes to a close and has a spin off series for JLA(?) and nolan does his next batman flick (he will, trust me) then all bets are off. Eventually it will happen.

Just not now.
brianj22 - 11/25/2009, 4:47 PM
DON'T BE TALKING ABOUT MY WELLING! Tom Welling as Clark Kent in SMALLVILLE is great. just because you don't like the show does not mean that he is a bad actor in it.
you just think that cause you don't like him/smallville
and thats OK. I love smallville and still I don't want to see tom welling on the big screen as superman. cause he would be not right for the role. He doesn't like to talk about the role, because he is MODEST and not BIG-HEADED. Welling doesn't need to be in the spot light, or he doesn't need to BEG to have the role back. Tom is just Tom, let him be.
peterparker420 - 11/25/2009, 4:55 PM
i think green lantern will appear after seeing the ring in the trailer. if wonder woman shows up it will just 'another person who can fly, just because clark can't'. batman won't. i don't think they have ever even mentioned gotham city in nine seasons.

i can't remember what happened to zatanna in the show, i thought she disappeared somehow. smallville is pretty terrible when it comes to magic heroes and villains though, they make them REALLY campy!

martian manhunter may appear, but they made him lose his powers flying clark to the sun to heal him in a previous season, didn't they?
samd577 - 11/25/2009, 5:12 PM
peterparker: Did I ever say I didn't like the show? No, I didn't even talk about the show itself. Don't pass off my criticism of Welling as "you just don't like the show."

The show is okay, it has been abysmal at times, but this year it's really good.
Routh isn't begging to have the role back, he's stating that he still loves the character, and would be glad to come back. By your logic, Kevin Spacey is begging to come back, since he's said he would gladly and happily return.


So not talking about the role you've been connected to for almost a decade or showing enthusiasm about it is being totally modest? That doesn't make sense.
InTylerWeTrust82 - 11/25/2009, 5:14 PM
samd577, There was an episode that involved Oliver, Lex and a few other richies. One unidentified rich boy got into a limo and said he had to get back to Gotham... (At this point I was on the edge of my seat saying is that Bruce Wayne? Is that Bruce Wayne???)Then the car blew up and I decided that it in fact was not Bruce wayne.
batfan39 - 11/25/2009, 5:23 PM
MisterUnderhill: So, if you think Welling is as wooden as you say Routh is, why is it that you have that manip of Welling as Superman as your avatar?

Regarding the "welcome to your world thing", I'm not the one saying the same exact thing every post about Routh/Superman. You are. I am not defending teabag or Lee, and you make a valid point by mentioning them, even though I never mentioned them or was defending them. It gets pretty redundant to see the same line repeated over and over again, in the same article no less.

I already explained to you about Routh's performance, how he was TOLD to act like Reeves, and how you're judging him on a cameo in a comedy about pornos.

You seemed to have totally ignored that, so I'll say it again:

The script/Singer called for a Reeves impression, and Routh did what they asked. He was great as both Clark and Superman, even though he didn't have enough solid scenes to work with, and he was written/directed to be a Superman that we didn't want.

And don't give me the "he would have shone through the bad script if he was a good actor!" thing. So, by that logic, Christian Bale is a bad actor for Equilibrium, Malcolm McDowell is a bad actor for Tank Girl, and yes, CHRISTOPHER REEVES is a bad actor for Superman 4.

We didn't want another Reeves performance, but we got one because of Singer and the script. If he was given a solid script and a good director (JJ Abrams) then he would do even better than in Returns.

Welling is the definition of wooden acting, and has not only managed to make Clark unlikeable as f*ck, but annoying as f*ck to match that. Also, he's not even enthusiastic about the role either, he's never talking about how great the role is, hell, it only took him about 8 years to take the trip to Comic-Con for the fans of his show. Routh, whenever asked about returning (pun intended) as Supes, always gives an enthusiastic response and says he would love to come back.

Until anyone can give me a better choice than Routh, I stand by him as my choice for Superman. So yeah.
InTylerWeTrust82 - 11/25/2009, 5:39 PM
Its a great pity that Routh was forced into imitating Reeves - he never got a chance to show us what he could actually do with the character! My main reason for not wanting Routh back would be the fact I want to distance any future Superman movies as far away as possible from Returns!

I definitely think that a director affect an actors performance which could be why I was so unimpressed by Rouths perfromance! For example, Daniel Craig is excellent in Casino Royale but dreadful in The Invasion - a bad director/bad script vs. a good director/good script is bound to make a difference!

I guess thats why I was so desperate to be impressed by Routh in Zack and Miri - unfortunately I wasnt!

As for Tom Welling I've never actually disliked him as an actor. He seems to vary - I sometimes watch an episode of Smallville and see that same old angst ridden expression on his face and want to punch him in the jaw...the next minute, Im sitting back and thinking, "Wow, that guy is an awesome Superman" - could he pull off the character on the big screen? I dont think so. The small screen? Definitely.
JoshW - 11/25/2009, 5:58 PM
I don't understand how Welling is "wooden"?, Welling portrayed/portrayes Clark the way it was ment to be, ORIGINAL. The way he see's clark. Welling gave clark A new freah take on a very old character, routh brought nothing original to the character. What you are saying is just a cop out "The script/Singer called for a Reeves impression", SO why use Routh again in a new superman movie? we are going to get the same lame performance he gave in superman returns. now if there is a new director with maybe a ORIGANAL story (for once) there may be slight chance of Routh doing a good job.
we might get something different from him (routh)and
not a copy of Reeves.

*yes I cast routh in my Identity Crisis fan-cast but that is because I didn't want welling as superman neither of them are right for a new superman movie*
peterparker420 - 11/25/2009, 6:04 PM
peterparker: He is wooden because he sucks at portraying emotion, has the same blank stare on his face every scene, same monotone, boring voice, uninteresting, need I go on? His take is fresh all right. No Clark before has ever been so unlikeable or annoying.

A cop out? It's a cop out to put blame where it obviously belongs? With a poor script and poor direction, almost any actor would be hard-pressed to generate a good performance.

Why use Routh again? Because the script would be DIFFERENT and the director would be DIFFERENT. That was the problem with Returns. The script/Singer made Routh impersonate Reeves, which we as fans did not want, therefore, obviously we would think that he was lame.

MisterUnderhill: Excuses? A bad script and a bad director are excuses? See my explanation to "cop-outs" above.

You do know Welling's had 8 1/2 seasons worth of writing to show that he isn't as good an actor as cardboard. The writing has been pretty good lately, yet Welling continues to give us weekly bad performances. Routh's had one lousy script to work with, and he still managed to do a great job.
InTylerWeTrust82 - 11/25/2009, 6:19 PM
MisterUnderhill-Thanks! It seems like everyone has the same excuse, Routh was bad because of the script/directer, know one want to addmit it was just a POOR CASTING CHOICE, from the word go he was wrong for the character. And Singer was just a moron telling Routh to "do you're best REEVES impression"
I can see Welling being SUPERMAN on the small screen
or as superman in a JSA/JLA spin-off. But I think we need a WAY BETTER ACTOR to portray supes in a new movie
IF THERE IS EVER A NEW MOVIE!! LOL

peterparker420 - 11/25/2009, 6:25 PM
InTylerWeTrust- If he sucks so bad why do you keep watching? I'll tell you..because he IS a good actor/director, and he gives a great performance every week.
"Routh's had one lousy script to work with, and he still managed to do a great job."
That is what you call a good job! wow I would hate to see him do a bad job..wait I think he did it was in a movie called SUPERMAN RETURNS.

yes Welling had 8 1/2 great seasons! and I wonder why he is still there?, maybe because he is a good actor/director who like to breath new life in a character, that has been played out over and over on the big screen.
peterparker420 - 11/25/2009, 6:36 PM
8 1/2 great seasons? You call the crap known as Smallville seasons 4,6, and 7 and half of 8 great? Are you serious?

So you call the mushy, melodramatic, boring, convoluted, cliched, cringe-worthy teen drama of those seasons great?

Welling isn't the only part of Smallville you know. I enjoy the other performances, and the plotlines have been interesting this season. Durance, Hartley, etc. all keep me entertained despite Welling's suckage. And the DC comic book character cameos also keep me watching.

Welling's portrayal sucks. He makes Clark so annoying and unlikeable, I want to punch him in the face half the time.

Anyway, I'm really tired of this. It's been about 2 hours, and we've gotten nowhere, so I'm just going to stop.
InTylerWeTrust82 - 11/25/2009, 6:51 PM
YES..like i said before 8 1/2 GREAT SEASONS!

all throughout the mushy, melodramatic, teen drama stuff
which never bothered me..because IT MADE SENSE! they were teenagers..being teeneagers through out those seasons.
but anyway all throughout that they had great stories and and even better cliffhangers so ya great seasons!

and how can you not like those seasons, when LEX was still involved in the storyline?

come on you can't stop know! LOL..ohhh well.
talk to you tomarrow!
peterparker420 - 11/25/2009, 7:01 PM
Welling's got no chance at all. Not only has he said on SEVERAL occasions that he'll never wear the tights, but he's way too tied to Smallville. Smallville is it's own continuity, WB won't put Welling in there, I guarantee it. That truly is believing what you're writing if you think Welling has any shot at being Supes, let alone more of a shot than Routh, who is less tied to Returns than Smallville and has publicly stated his enthusiasm to come back numerous times. Living with Routh-colored glasses, you're living with Welling-covered glasses on, or in other words, sh*t covered glasses ;)

I know I said I was off, but that comment caught my eye :)
InTylerWeTrust82 - 11/25/2009, 8:21 PM
@ ITWT you didn't like Equilibrium? WTF? That movie was incredible action and story.

Other than that I agree with you.
juggy4711 - 11/25/2009, 11:26 PM
****Y'know it's funny, when I talk to some people about topics like James Bond for instance, they will CLAIM certain Bonds as "theirs". For instance, many older folks say about Sean Connery, "That's my James Bond" as HE was the one who they felt did the most justice to the character. And THAT is how I feel about Tom Welling/Smallville. To me, despite the crappy writing and so-so acting, the show has HEART, something Superman has lacked in most mediums for YEARS. With that atrocious shitfest called Superman Returns disgracing the Supes name back in '06, Smallville kept chugging along and doing it's own thing. Sure it ignores continuity, but it also gave us the chance to watch Clark go from awkard kid, to Superman. Welling has stuck it out on the show, season after season, with no on-set drama reported. Writers TRY to give us what we'd love to see, even though it's not perfect, even far from it. But they try. I don't care what anyone says anymore, Smallville is a good show, and as far as live-action Superman, that's what I think of****
TheDurkinKnight - 11/26/2009, 12:33 AM
Biggest mistake Smallville made was Doomsday, Clark survived that which doesnt make sense. After that there is no hope in hell of Welling becoming Superman, but its encouraging to hear that the current season is good, as soon as I get the chance I'll pick it up.

I've got to agree with Tyler though Routh got a bad script and direction, worse still is the fact that Rouths performance was decent and the movie was spoilt by the baby issue. Kevin Spacey wasnt good in Returns either. Miscasting was only evident with Kate Bosworth. The bad direction theory is true look at Pierce Brosnan in Golden Eye then look at Die Another Day, or Johnny Depp in Pirates then in Secret Window or Sean Connery in LXG.

I watch Smallville only missed part of Season 2 but the past few seasons have been slow and anticlimatic. Clarke is bland and just keeps doing the same song and dance. It is very possible for someone to watch a series and dislike the main actor I used to enjoy Prison Break but hated Michael Scofield. The main draw was the supporting cast just as Michael Rosenbaum and John Glover were for Smallville
breakUbatman - 11/26/2009, 12:39 AM
Whoa, gettin a little tense on this topic Haha, Everybody needs to understand that Routh & Welling shouldnt be compared. THE POINT IS THEY ARE BASICALLY PLAYING 2 DIFF CHARACTERS!! for the simple fact they are playing the same Character at DIFFERENT TIMES IN THE CHARACTERS LIFE!! IT ISNT THE SAME, SO STOP COMPARING.

Routh didnt have much to work with w/ Singer.Superman Returns was poo from the getgo. Everything from the Carbon Copy performance of Reeves that Singer wanted, to Kate Bosworth's horrble Lois, to what is the UGLIEST VERSION OF THE SUPERMAN COSTUME! In a way, I feel for the guy because he wont get a 2nd chance if WB goes Reboot.

Welling on the other hand will NEVER wear the suit because it simply states that everywhere you look on Smallville's Synopsis & that is what makes Smallville great:ITS A CHANCE TO SEE SUPERMAN/DC CHARACTERS BEFORE THEYRE THE CHARACTERS WE ARE FAMILIAR W/!! Every cast/crew on Smallville lets you know "IN OUR WORLD, SUPERMAN DOESNT EXIST!" Thats the point of Smallville.

Yall are comparing Apples to Oranges, nobody on here compares Chris Reeve to Dean Cain(ALSO CUZ WE KNOW WHO THE REAL SUPERMAN IS)

Superman needs a whole new cast w/ an unknown(LIKE THEY DO EVERY TIME THEY MAKE A NEW VERSION OF SUPES) good Supporting Cast, an entertaining story w/ a Villian Clark can fight(ala The Incredible Hulk) & we'll have Good Superman.

JonathanisMagnum1985 - 11/26/2009, 1:58 AM
BTW, Been seeing all these Fantasy Cast I figured I'd throw my hat in to what I think is the Perfect cast for a Superman film & why...Granted, I know this will never happen but hey, guy can dream cant he? So here goes,

Superman/Clark Kent/Kal-El.........CHRISTOPHER REEVE
Need I say more? The guy looked like he popped right off the Pages...His acting as Big Blue is STELLAR! With a New Supe'd up Suit, more modern Superman Hair-Do, the new S logo(which happens to be my Avatar) This guy IS,WAS,& ALWAYS WILL BE Superman!!

Lois Lane..............................MARGOT KIDDER
To make Lois & Clark work you gotta have chemistry, & I don't think there was any more chemistry than Margot & Christopher. She nailed it in the movies, if we were to travel back & bring a young Margot back for a new movie, she would kill it!

Lex Luthor...............................GENE HACKMAN
The only thing I hated about Donner's version was his LEX. BUT, given the Corporate Tycoon, No wig wearing, no joking, sinister Profit Monger Luthor, Hackman has it in those crazy eyes to be an awesome LEX

Perry White...................RAY WISE(from CW's Reaper)
This guy voiced Perry in the Superman/Doomsday animated movie, his voice was awesome, his look is even better, when he talks you gotta feel this guy's in charge of a Great Newspaper, also in his voice deep down you can tell he loves/cares for his Daily Planet Staff. he's the right age, all you need is a Cigar in his hand & Great Caesars Ghost, You got Perry!

Jimmy Olsen............AARON ASHMORE(Smallville's Jimmy)
Since somehow we were fooled for 2 seasons that this was Jimmy, he did do a great job @ it. Jimmy has to be secretly confident but not to where he comes off as cocky. Plus,I just think that he would act great off of Ray Wise as Perry & the whole Father/Son Relationship Perry & Jimmy have.

Jor-El...............JAMES CAVIEZEL(JC from The Passion)
If the new art of Jor-El w/ a beard doesn't look like White haired Jesus idk what does! This guy would be great, saw that he does audio library as Jesus as well so he has that Shakespearean tone to his voice, perfect for a Jor-El that needs to let his son know he must save mankind!

Lara...................LENA HEADEY(Queen Gorgo from 300)
Face it, she has the same Shakespeare tone in 300, plus Superman's gotta have a hot mom

Ma Kent.......SWOOZIE KURTZ(Liar Liar, Cruel Intentions)
Coincidentally, she voiced Ma Kent in Superman Doomsday & I was impressed! She sounds like she has that reason in her voice & she would give our hero someone to confide in & give Motherly advice! Put a Granny wig on her & You have Ma Kent!

Pa Kent.......JAMES GARNER(The Notebook, 8 Simple Rules)
In this film, I'd have Pa Kent passed away but awesome flashback Cameos by James Garner as Jonathan. He has that Fatherly look but also that stubborn old man look where he wants to do Farm chores but cant due to health?? it would work, I know it!

Young Clark Kent....WILL REEVE (Christopher Reeve's son)
Ok, I know this kids not an actor, but HE LOOKS LIKE HIS DAD & HIS DAD LOOKS LIKE SUPERMAN, SO WHY NOT?!? Seriously, image google him, you'll see. Plus, not to get queer but it'd be pretty heartwarming to see this 17 yr old in flashbacks of the role his father made famous. It'd be quite the homage.

Brainiac......DOUG JONES(Silver Surfer in FF2, Hellboy) Voice by.................COREY BURTON(Superman Animated)
So if Braniac isn't gonna be CGI it'll have to be an actor who wont mind putting on so much prosthetic makeup you cant recognize him(see Silver Surfer,Hellboy) Everybody knows Doug Jones does great acting as alien beings so yea need I say more? Give him the GEOFF JOHN'S BRAINIAC look & he'll work! As for Brainiac's Voice, Corey Burton voiced him EXCELLENTLY in the 90's STAS, that robotic, mono-tone voice would be awesome for this Brainiac, For sho!


Now put in GREAT CGI effects, a story/script by GEOFF JOHNS based on his SUPERMAN/BRAINIAC story arc, w/ either RICHARD DONNER or JJ ABRAMS in the Director's Chair....DAMN, WHAT A MOVIE!!

Well, that's MY Opinion of what Great Superman Movie should be. If you don't know any of the latter actor's, Google em, they're all Veteran actors w/ Nice resumes & for the most part have the look of their comic counterparts.

If you got any feedback, criticism, or opinions let me know, nothing negative. Like I said, I know this wouldn't work cause My Superman's passed away & the supporting cast is passed their prime & age limit for the characters, but like I said, guy can dream, cant he?

JonathanisMagnum1985 - 11/26/2009, 3:05 AM
Smallville is a good show and it's possible to not really care for the main character but like the show. No one in my house likes Welling he's as annoying as Lois and Chloe. Lana was o.k., they need to bring Lex back ,Green Arrow\Ollie is good,and now ZOD.

As far as Im concerned Im still waiting on a Superman movie done right. Routh in my opinion is Superman now get him a good supporting cast and storyline. Get rid of Spacey and the female that played Lois. I say re-do the whole franchise skip the origin story most people know it already. Start off with Clark at the Daily Planet do few flashbacks to catch everyone up to speed.

Lex needs to be in the movie but not the main character just his presence so to speak. Bring a heavy hitter like Darkseid or Mongul as the villian give us some action.I know thats just wishful thinking I just think it's time for a REAL SUPERMAN MOVIE.
BLADE4040 - 11/26/2009, 7:59 PM
brainj22 - Sorry for the late response, had computer trouble for a few days!

First off, wikipedia is a site that anyone can contribute to, so the information there is not bonafide fact! You really need to go back and actually read the books to understand what I'm talking about! There were FIVE founding JL of A members: WW, Aquaman, GL, The Flash and Martian Manhunter! Superman and Batman joined later on!




The JL of A from the pre-crisis era had a much different feel than anything associated with the property since, with the exception of the "Identity Crisis" series! I was not suggesting that IC be used as a storyline in Smallville! IDK where you got that from!

The last I read, Laura Vandervoort did not want to come back to Smallville unless she would be spun off into her own series! And trust me, Warners has prohibited the use of Batman or WW on Smallville!!

I own most of the comics you sited; I've been collecting for three decades!! I know what I'm talking about!

JonF - 12/1/2009, 3:34 PM

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