Geoff Johns Confirms DC's Lack Of Plans For A Justice League Movie!

Nice, Geoff.

Yeah, don't even try to win over the Marvel fans, just piss 'em off and limit your viewing audience.

As much as I'd like to see a JLA movie I'm glad DC aren't going to try and rush it just to compete with Marvel. It'll happen in its own time if it happens and while we wait hopefully we get loads of decent movies to watch in the mean time

I very well agree. DC's heroes can hold on their own. Plus, though I love what Marvel is doing, to an extent, I'm glad DC is keeping things the way they were. Sometimes we need a good sold solo-movie. Great Stuff Josh!

Damn, Johns.You never hear a creator, especially a higher up, make a statement like that regarding another company's characters.

I agree they (well, some of them...) CAN hold their own, but that shouldn't preclude DC from doing Justice League.

Besides, I really can't see Hawkman/Girl, Aquaman, or Martian Manhunter carrying their own Solo films, and a JL movie might just be the only way a lot of people would ever bother with them.

Horray for superman punching stuff! :D

@Josh...I agree with your disagreement...both companies are on equal terms when it comes to characters and story telling. One can't exist without the other. The Problem is that WB has this mine to excavate but they are digging in the dangerous tunnels like Jonah Hex, Constantine, RED(which looks good), and these limited series that people don't know about...except that they have Superman, Wonder Woman, Green Arrow, Martian Manhunter, Teen Titans, and LOTS of other characters that deserve the live action treatment, but since Harry Potter is ending will may soon see them mining in the right areas soon.

@Taz....Johns worked with Marvel b4 on a few projects when he was younger..so him saying that, makes him kinda of a douche....the Comic Industry has tremendous respect for one another and they never call each other out. Joe Quesada wished the new DC EiC the best of luck, so Johns should watch his tongue

I can't wait to see the trailer for GL and while a JL movie would be awesome, the only problem is they haven't made a connective universe for these characters...so for now, its not gonna happen

Gosh Geoff, in April you were hinting that a JLA film was in development! Apparently Diane Nelson has worked the Jedi mind trick on him...

GJ: People would really like to see a JLA film...
DN: (waves hand) They don't need to see a JLA film.
GJ: ...they don't need to see a JLA film...

Carry that weight, boy!

Wasn't the whole point of adding Angela Bassett as Dr. Waller (who is behind several DC organizations) to add continuity? Yeah, when they started Green Lantern, they were clearly trying to have a connected universe. Then they find out Nolan won't tie in Batman, and also wants to do Superman alone and are calling it off. Because if you can't have those two, I guess there's no point.

and to mention they should have done a JL movie years ago.....DC has always had their rights to the characters, Marvel is just getting them back sooo I think DC is capitalizing off of the success Marvel had with Iron Man and The Incredible Hulk by making their own movies

"I'm going to speak frankly: I think our characters are bigger than Marvel's." He said that he'd rather spend time building each character on his or her own rather than "smashing them together."

And he is damn right about it.
I'm worried about the Flash movie though...

I think that seperate films is a very smart thing to do and it helps people who aren't familiar with the characters get to know them better. And johns is right there characters are much more iconic than marvels heck john jonnz could beat 85% of the avengers by himself. Nice work dc and I can't wait for a zach snyder directed supes fight scene priceless

I hope people can stop begging for a JLA movie now. It is getting annoying reading how there needs to be one when there is no need. People also seem to think it means that Marvel is winning some contest about superhero movies when aside from comic book fans the mass public doesn't care which character is a Marvel or DC. And yes thank God for the Marvel movies I mean Brands.

@Deadpool
Well you can argue which company has the most "iconic" superheroes. Superman and Batman are only rivald by Marvels Spider-Man.
That being said... THERE'S NO REASON THERE SHOULDN'T BE A JLA MOVIE.

@ dynamo

what about captain america ?

i honestly think Johns was talkin in terms of films. DC still has overriding control over the films involving their characters. Superman, Batman, Green Lantern, Flash, Wonder Woman etc cannot have any film that is not overseen by DC as a company. Marvel have sold the rights to some of their most well-known characters...Spiderman, X-Men, Fantastic 4 etc. Iron Man (before the films) and Thor are not as well known around the world as Spiderman n X-Men. Captain America as well is not as well known around the world as the Fantastic 4. A lot of this is to do with animated series that air across the world. Hulk is the most well known of the Avengers film but certainly won't be the main focus. I think that is Johns point. Marvel don't have the film rights to their most celebrated and well known character whereas DC do. Don't think that's a diss.

N.B I am from Manchester, England and am more of a DC fan but like Marvel, especially Captain America (my favourite Marvel character) but trust me on this when talking about the most well known characters. Also my point is about the general public NOT you people on here.

"smashing them together."

Smashing them together? All the decades of Team comics were just smashing them together?

I violently disagree.

I love Johns but this news is just tragic. This attitude is just begging to be... what is the proper word here? Adjusted that is the word I want.




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I disagree with Johns.

As far as comparing quality of Movies, I’m a fan of both Marvel and DC but right now I REALLY think Marvel is overall doing it right, and by Marvel I mean Marvel Studios. I am not throwing in the stuff done by Fox and Sony in there cause good or bad, Marvel did not have the control on those movies (all Spider-mans, X-men, Fantastic Four, Daredevil, etc) as they do with the ones under the Marvel Studios banner.

That’s why when I hear some one say “I raise your Jonah Hex one Elektra.” In my mind that doesn’t count against Marvel Studios because they didn’t have the same amount of control over it. Yeah it’s a MARVEL movie, but all it REALLY means is FOX can make a crappy movie about a MARVEL character. When its not under Marvel Studios, the fact it was either Good (Spider-man) or Bad (Elektra) is/was because factors outside of Marvels control.

You wanna judge Marvel Movies from Marvel Studios, you have a pretty short list, but I will still take that over 75% of the stuff DC has out there. Why you ask? Because DC/Warners has had control over their stuff for the git-go, and they have only a(relative) handful of successes. Just look at the list of DC/Warner movies that have come out in my lifetime…(I may have missed a couple)

Superman
Superman II
Superman III
Superman IV: The Quest for Peace
Supergirl
Swamp Thing
The Return of Swamp Thing
Batman
Batman Returns
Batman Forever
Batman & Robin
Steel
Catwoman
Batman Begins
The Dark Knight
Superman Returns
Watchmen
The Losers
Jonah Hex

Only six or seven of those I would consider really good or even passable, definitely not "quality over quantity". All of these were done on DC/Warners watch, so that although the good ones are 100% theirs, it also means means all of the crappy ones (a big chunk of the majority) are 100% their fault.

Ironman 2 gets some grief on this site, but its miles over the majority of what DC has put out. Of course Marvel Studios has only put out 3 movies so far, but from their start, they show they have a plan, maybe a few hiccups, but they have a plan. DC does not. Focusing on one character is nothing new, Hell, its what they have been doing from the start, and 75% of the time it sucks.

I will be one of the first people to see the new Green Lantern movie (I LOVE the character, and I’m a huge Hal Jordan fanboy), so again, I don’t hate DC. But people who point to the Dark Knight and Batman Begins have a VERY short memory as basically, those flicks are two shiny great examples on top of a huge ass manure pile.

So to sum it up, yeah, I think they were stupid to NOT consider a JLA movie, but then I’m not surprised, they ALMOST didn’t make the JL toon (you know, the one from Bruce Timm, which is the super-toon others are compared to) and when you look back and read things of how close that didn’t happen, you see how something SO GREAT almost passed us by.

IMO, its happening again, this time with movies.

Where is this war?

Iron man 2 was not as good as the first but "god awful" is seriously your opinion, a valid opinion, but seriously, YOURS dude. Nobody bitches about it more than fanboys especially on THIS site. The average movie fan thought it was allright and the DVD/Blueray sales prove that.

Hulk is also your opinion.

And the fact is I would still take BOTH Iron man 2 and Hulk over most of that crap out there that DC is throwing out (IE Jonah Hex)

And this aint about a war dude, its about DC overall not getting it right with the movies.

In the area of the toons? They freaking ROCK. As I said the JLU toon is THE Gold standard.

This is my personal opinion of how they are handling the movies, and I feel its more than valid.

If you feel my comments are about "imaginary DC/Marvel movie war", I don't know what to tell you, maybe for some folks that applies, but not to me.

@deadpool72 alright fella?

i know what people are sayin...marvel studios has a better record BUT the point is the point Johns was making was NOW Marvel are wackin together the Avengers and the films preceding that are made to build to that film. That COULD take the focus away from the solo film. Not saying it will but it COULD. Now with Batman, DC have a HUGE success, with GL next year it looks good, although you never know, and then Superman looks in good hands. And they are at least the biggest 2 characters of DC and GL is in contention with Flash n Wonder Woman as next most well known. Marvel's most well known are Spiderman and X-Men throughout the world and even though i applaud Marvel and love the fact they're doing the Avengers, Johns is right. IF Marvel had the film right to Spiderman n Xmen they wouldn't be doing Avengers BUT I am glad they are and it is a HUGE risk to do it but a GREAT risk. Johns was just stating that they don't have to put they're best 4 together to make loads of money. TDK did it and I think MOS will do it. GL, IMO will beat Iron Man, Thor and even though I LOVE Captain America i think Gl will beat its Box Office. Only my opinion.

Just my opinion that Johns dint mean it as a diss just that DC can use all it's most popular characters n Marvel can't at the moment. I do love the risk Marvel is taking with the Avengers n using each solo film to lead into it which inevitably takes away from the character as a solo film.

Safe

@ q nolan

Although I disagree with Johns, I know he's a overall comic fan and its hard to "hear" context on a screen. I agree with you and am willing to think he didn't mean to intentionally diss anyone.

I disagree they would not be doing Avengers as thats a hot book nowadays and Marvel was always big on the "shared Universe" concept generally speaking. I think their only regret know is that they don't have Spidey and X-man at the moment.

I'm also crossing my fingers for MOS. As to what movie does better next year...Guess we will have to wait and see huh? I myself just hope they all do WELL. It never really helps out us comic fans when these movies do badly.

Another thing he he said/didn't say that bummed me out was info/lack of info on the Flash movie...I heard a rumor a few years back Mpls/St Paul was possibly in the running to be Central City and although thats just a rumor, I would love a) for them to make a cool Flash movie and b) for it to be filmed here.

@ magic8

The reason I'm upset about some failed DC CBM (there is no supposedly in there, it can be generally admitted by 90% of the CBM fans most of those were dogs) is in my post.

Again to say it again, I do NOT think they (DC) are going about it the right way and thats my opinion.

How it applied to your post (again this is in my post) is I'm not all "about some imaginary DC/Marvel movie war".

I'm a comic fan who wants to see good comic movies, DC, Marvel, INDY, whatever. It is not about a war, its about my opinion on how I think DC is dropping the ball, and has been for some time.

To add to my above point, here is the thing...

A lot of times if a type of movie fails, a blanket statement goes out to Hollywood and whatever that "such and such" genre does not work for film.

I heard it for fantasy before LOTR (it will only do so well since its fantasy, some said), I heard it from Sci Fi when I was a kid (Yes, I'm old enough to have seen Star Wars the first time and remember how shocked everyone was that a SCI-FI film about space was doing so darn well).

The thing about bad CBM is they can and have put CBM on the back burner as material. It wasn't that the public was sick of them, it was because the majority of them sucked ass.

Today’s a little better though, The 2 Nolan Batman movies, Spiderman plus Ironman opened more eyes into seeing maybe this is a richer genre then previously thought, but then I will read an article about "will the public get sick of CBMs?" I shake my head and hope that sillyness doesn't spread. I agree with Stan the man himself, they will only get sick of them if they suck, but regardless, Hollywood is full of some crazy mother f***ers who come up with crazy ideas of what may or may not work.

I've always thought that DC was full of SuperHeroes and Marvel was full of Super Humans. and i'm not talking about origins either. DC's characters seem to be a little more grand and epic, almost untouchable in a sense, while marvels characters seem to deal with regular human issues on a regular basis. Sometimes you need a hero and sometimes you need to relate, its six in one half a dozen in the other. I'm not saying that you don't find both types in each of the companies, but thats just the feel i get from the comics. the best way for me to put it is; i'll never be Superman, but its possible i could one day be Spider-Man. ;0)

magic8@ I think people make way too big of deal out of IM2 just being a setup for the Avengers. Other than the Easter eggs, I didn't think the movie had that much Avengers setup to it, other than Nick Fury and the Shield involvement at parts, which should be expected. I don't see it the same way you did and I certainly thought the movie delivered and was entertaining enough. Nolan can keep delivering solo movies. No skin off my teeth, but I think it is a mistake pooh-poohing a JLA film.