Has Pre-Production On The Avengers Been Delayed Due To Budget Issues?

According to Bleeding Cool, Marvel are planning on giving the movie a relatively low budget resulting in pre-production being delayed by weeks or even months...

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By Josh Wilding - 11/3/2010
Here are some highlights from their report. No source is given for where this information came from, so it might be worth taking it with a pinch of salt for the time being!



"Marvel are demanding that it all get done on the relative cheap. For something not far off what Sony paid to make their first Spider-Man film back in 2004."

"And while some people have walked off, others are planning a longer game. Basically do the work, then when they run out of budget (which they believe they will) trust that Marvel Studios and their investors will pony up the extra necessary cash rather than leave the movie unfinished."

"As a result of such staff changes, pre-production has been delayed weeks – possibly months."


I don't think that we have too much to worry about as Marvel are bound to realise just how much potential for a huge box office this movie has. Are they going to risk losing that by cutting the budget and making a shoddy movie? With Disney's backing, I highly doubt it! Be sure to share your thoughts on this news in the usual place!




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Source: Bleeding Cool
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Shaman - 11/3/2010, 11:23 AM
Do it right. Period. The money will be there after Thor and Captain America.
DarthMarenghi - 11/3/2010, 11:24 AM
Yeah, dubious at best,
maxleresistant - 11/3/2010, 11:27 AM
are they kidding? this movie can't fail at the boxoffice
Ranger14 - 11/3/2010, 11:28 AM
Kind of like the rumors of people not getting along on the Thor set? We saw how skewed that was.
JaySchluffy - 11/3/2010, 11:29 AM
Oh yey another bleeding cool copy and paste.
the1egend1ives - 11/3/2010, 11:30 AM
I smell bullshit. Why would Marvel make The Avengers budget LESS than that of Cap or Thor? That's retarded. And with Disney backing it up? Come on....
Shaman - 11/3/2010, 11:31 AM
Lansdowne5- 300mil??? Not in a million years. 180mil would be more realistic. 220mil at the very most.
Growler - 11/3/2010, 11:37 AM
Hmmm... This seems a bit specious to me. I mean,, if they can't even get the year Spider-Man was released right (2002), who's to trust their researchers on something YET to happen.
Someone had a slow news day and had to write something to justify their pay-cheque.
Curmudgeon - 11/3/2010, 11:38 AM
God... when will websites stop posting "spy reports" from trolls?
tim3186 - 11/3/2010, 11:38 AM
I would not be surprised if Marvel has a lower budget for Avengers then they do for Cap and Thor. The reason behind this is that the movie is still a relatively big risk. While fan boys (and girls) might flock to this movie, that does not guarantee it as a commercial success. Look at Watchmen, for example. Watchmen had a budget of 130M according to BoxOfficeMojo.com, and pulled in 107M domestically and 78M internationally. While fans of the material and genre flocked to it, mainstream audiences passed it up as a whole, even though comic fans and non comic fans have given high praise for the movie. People who have only seen Iron Man or Hulk might pass on Avengers as it might seem too confusing without having seen Cap and Thor. I am sure this is what Marvel is thinking about, even if this is just a rumor.
gost - 11/3/2010, 11:38 AM
I'm calling the BS police on this, Marvel has been leading up to the Avengers for the last few years they're gonna want this movie done right so they're not gonna skimp on the budget.
KnightGambit - 11/3/2010, 11:41 AM
Wasnt the whole point of Disney taking over to pay for all these movies? lol FAIL-sauce
juggy4711 - 11/3/2010, 11:43 AM
I agree Shaman. No way the budget is 300mil. Iron man and Iron man 2 made just above that domestically. Which is probably ball park for what Avengers will do.
patriautism - 11/3/2010, 11:43 AM
"Marvel are demanding that it all get done on the relative cheap. For something not far off what Sony paid to make their first Spider-Man film back in 2004."

Pretty sure it was released 02 not 04

Spider-Man 2 was released in 04
Shaman - 11/3/2010, 11:53 AM
juggy4711- EXACTLY!!! People don't realise that most studios need to make DOUBLE their money back to be satisfied. Unless Avengers is released in 3D, i highly doubt their rakings surpass 350mil. At least domestically.
HULK2099 - 11/3/2010, 11:54 AM
noooooooooo (head exploded)
TheDarqueOne - 11/3/2010, 11:58 AM
Not really buying this one. Just does not make a lot of sense at this point.






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marvel72 - 11/3/2010, 12:12 PM
marvel & disney spend some money & reap the rewards.

$250 million should be enough,the film is gonna gross more than that.

i reckon it could take $750 million easily at the box office.
JackJNapier - 11/3/2010, 12:18 PM
this is dumb. Of course Marvel is going to fork out the money for this movie. This will smash the boxoffices.
Ryden - 11/3/2010, 12:32 PM
Spider-Man came out in 2002 not 2004, besides I'd imagine the budget for the first Spider-Man was relativley high. Avengers will be fine.
akthunder - 11/3/2010, 12:34 PM
Now if they had a Spiderman reboot budget, then I would worry.
AlReg - 11/3/2010, 12:35 PM
I expect some more news to come out like this the production is to big to not have problems.
Shaman - 11/3/2010, 12:41 PM
Ryden- I believe Spider-Man 1's budget was 140mil. But i could be wrong.

deadpool72- Um... i wish i shared your... dealer, but other than TDK & Spider-man 3's WORLD WIDE rakings, what CBM do you know that actually made those numbers? Why would Avengers be any different? Unless Thor and Cap are any different indication at all, i don't see Avengers eclipsing Ironman 1.
RorMachine - 11/3/2010, 12:41 PM
Yeah I doubt they will be finalizing budget until the numbers role in for Thor and Cap. Still, I understand them being apprehensive. If Thor or Cap fails to excite audiences they will take a serious knock to the momentum heading into Avengers.
Gmoney84 - 11/3/2010, 12:43 PM
This is BS.
marvel72 - 11/3/2010, 12:44 PM
spider-man 2002 (wikapedia,so it maybe right)

budget $140 million

world wide box office takings $821.71 million

x-men 3 had a budget of $210 million

marvel studios & disney spend about $250 million on the budget you tight f*ckers.

the avengers is something new take some risks.
ckal - 11/3/2010, 12:56 PM
Yeah I doubt they will be finalizing budget until the numbers role in for Thor and Cap. Still, I understand them being apprehensive. If Thor or Cap fails to excite audiences they will take a serious knock to the momentum heading into Avengers.

RorMachine - 11/3/2010, 12:41 PM

You pretty much said it. Although I think both movies will do well with audiences, you just don't know at this point. But most movies are a gamble anyways so I hope Marvel has as much confidence as possible in their films.
tazmaniak - 11/3/2010, 12:59 PM
"Do it right. Period. The money will be there after Thor and Captain America."

But that's not really a solution, as Avengers will go into production several months before those movies come out.

Anyway, I'm a little on the fence about this news.It has no source, so it could be BS.But, from what we know of the films, it could be true.

It could be BS because Marvel has been working up to this.They're not going to cheap out on this.

On the other hand, look at how much money they've already spent.

$170-200 million on Iron Man 2
$150 million on Thor.
$140 million on Captain America.
$200+? million on Avengers.
$115 million for the distribution rights(to be paid when Avengers/Iron Man 3 opens)

Iron Man 2 is the only one that's been released and it made $621 million.And don't they also have to pay that $500+ million they got from Merrill Lynch in 2013?

So outside of Iron Man 2 they've basically spent, or have committed to spending a total of about $547 million, before being able to see any return on those movies.That's a big risk.Spending half a billion dollars at once.And on top of that, there's the half a billion dollars they also have to pay back.
Shaman - 11/3/2010, 1:00 PM
deadpool72- Touché, 783 766 341$ world wide to be exact. But that was Spider-Man who is a lot more popular on his own than the Avengers. What does the Avengers have that would garantee those numbers? I say let's see how Cap does since he is the most popular avenger. It'll give us a better picture i think.
Hawksblueyes - 11/3/2010, 1:01 PM
I call CRAP! Marvel has given pretty damn good budgets to both IM movies The Huilk, THOR and Captain America. There is no way they would ever dream of bringing these heroes together on a small budget. Besides that, this movie was listed as one of the films with a budget at over $150,000,000 when the news broke (months ago)that Marvel was only planning on doing films with budgets over 150 mil or below 50 mil, nothing in between.

This is Bleeding Cool BS!
marvel72 - 11/3/2010, 1:10 PM
@ shaman

to be honest with you i personally prefer the avengers to spider-man.

as for most popular avenger to me its thor & the hulk.

so think its all to do with taste.

thor & captain america have got to pull off something special to beat robert downey jr's portrayal of tony stark/iron man.

his popular on the big screen with comic fans & non comic fans alike.
skullboy - 11/3/2010, 1:11 PM
This just gets better and better don't it?
JoshWilding - 11/3/2010, 1:14 PM
A movie like The Avengers has the potential to make a hell of a lot of money as I've said at the end of the article, and there is no way in hell I see Marvel/Disney risking a load of bad reviews by making it on the cheap. You have to spend money to make money and I'm confident that it'll be no less than epic. Bullshit sounds about right to me regarding this information.
Gunslinger - 11/3/2010, 1:37 PM
What a load of sh1t! Marvel is spending what they're spending on Thor and Cap, building up to The Avengers, getting ready to make movie history by crossing over characters on film... And they'll do it on a small budget? Makes no sense whatsoever! Sounds like DC is getting desperate and starting to spread rumours to undermine fans' confidence in Marvel who has been doing a great job so far.
DukeAcureds - 11/3/2010, 1:51 PM
Might be true. I've heard this before. Worst case scenario- Avengers is never made. Best case scenario- They keep asking for more money and make it a huge budget movie that comes out after Ant Man and as such has the pyms as part of the team. On the other hand all this talk could just be bullshit. But I've heard a lot about the Marvel movies not getting much help from Disney.
LEEE777 - 11/3/2010, 2:12 PM
BUDGET???

MARVEL STUDIOS got SH1T loads for an average movie like IRON MAN 2! (Got lucky)

(INCREDIBLE HULK = Twice as good!)

Damn MARVEL,,,, this is the biggest of big SUPERHERO MOVIES!

Don't talk budget on it lol!

You already got rid of ED NORTON damn you lol.

P.S. Anyways... THOR's gonna be MARVEL STUDIOS GEM movie!
herofreak15 - 11/3/2010, 2:38 PM
i don't know if to believe this or not...actually i kinda don't i excitment might be squashed by this:{ but i still smell BULL SH!t!!!!!!!!!!!!!! been wantin to do that for awhile now
Sturmpionier - 11/3/2010, 2:51 PM
Marvel has stated that Avengers is their big delivery vehicle. I'm sure they're trying to control costs, like every single movie producer who has a brain has ever tried to do. However, this article implies that the movie might be left unfinished.

L-O-L

Ryguy88 - 11/3/2010, 2:56 PM
Maybe they are just waiting to see the numbers from Thor and Cap. The first quote of the article said something about starting out with a modest Spiderman 1 esque budget and if more money is needed than they will see what they are willing to put up.

Makes sense to me, aim for $140 mil and try not to go too much over the $200 mil mark. Although it should be imposible to make this for anything less than $150 mil with the cast involved, I assume that is part of the reason why they went a little cheap on the director as well.
BetaRayB - 11/3/2010, 3:16 PM
Not only will this movie make back it's entire budget in North America alone, it's going to make a fortune at the worldwide box office. It's also going to clean up from additional revenue streams such as DVDs, Pay-TV, network broadcasts, syndication, product merchandising for a multitude of characters, games, comics and cartoons. Plus it's an investment into new character spinoffs.

It's a Sure Thing if I ever saw one! Marvel/Disney would be stupid to skimp on this at all. The budget should be $250-300 million, no questions asked.
Godzillafart - 11/3/2010, 3:40 PM
Oh, Man! This one can not be done right on the cheap!
souhunter - 11/3/2010, 3:45 PM
I smell BS but if so then this might be a bad thing. Or not
Hulk2008 - 11/3/2010, 4:02 PM
If the budget is around $150, then it will work. The production budget for 2007 Transformers movie was $151,000,000. Between $150-200 mil is not cheap but is to be expected. Avengers should rake in between $300-$400k in the box office if done right.
Acerimmer1 - 11/3/2010, 5:19 PM
Surely that can't be true.

A low budget Avengers movie will bring about the end of Marvels popularity in movie theaters. Especially because Captain America will suck.
jjmeylar - 11/3/2010, 5:57 PM
The money is there and more will come. DO THE DAMN MOVIE!
Ultron8872 - 11/3/2010, 7:35 PM
They need to make sure they spend the money and do this right.

This is the "franchise" for Marvel.

They need this to be huge.

They can live with Cap or Thor or even both laying an egg, but if the Avengers falls apart, then its over, not only for Marvel, but for Comic Book Movies in general.

Just my opinion.
hunterelf - 11/3/2010, 7:59 PM
really ?? avengers the biggest movie title for marvel and their gonna be cheap about that ? wtf ?!
Jimdlux - 11/3/2010, 9:02 PM
Here comes the train wreck! First Norton, now this.
Ronnie11 - 11/3/2010, 11:59 PM
i highly doubt this news source..considering the fact that they have spent roughly $150Mn on average for thor,CA & iron man...marvel will likely keep a higher buudget than this..otherwise they would have avoided all the stage shows for the characters & i seriously doubt that even the contracted actors would agree to it...i somehow do not believe this bit of news
jbender - 11/4/2010, 2:37 AM
No source = Incredible bullshit
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