Why, to me, X-Men: First Class will be good!

With the Singer's interview i have all the pieces to say: X-Men: First Class will be good. Why? Trust me, check it out!

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By Cyke89 - 8/21/2010
When u say X-Men: First Class, I think about the first mutants. Obviously in the comics are Cyclops, Jean, Iceman, Angel and Beast. I think at the first X-Men.

When Lauren Shuler Donner announces X-Men: First Class' movie and Josh Schwartz was set to written it, I think to comics. We have seen Cyclops and Jean falls in love and somethin' else. Schwartz is well know for O.C. and Gossip Girl, u know...

But when Bryan Singer come on board all the things changed litterally. Schwartz's script was throw away. Jamie Moss come on board and write a first draft, then Zack Stentz and Ashley Miller rewrite it. Jane Goldman come on board at the end and modified some things.

Singer has failed with Superman Returns but not with X-Men. X-Men: Last Stand was garbage, Wolverine was decent but X-Men 1 was good and X2 was superlative. Matthew Vaughn, the First Class' director, has made some good movies! Stardust was very good and Kick-Ass was awesome.

Vaughn is well know for being the "director who left projects". U know, Marvel set him as a Thor's director and he left. Why? First: Marvel won't pay him for a big budget movie. Second: to him, Mark Protosevich's script was garbage (after he left, Marvel has rewritten totally the script...). Fox set him as X-Men: Last Stand director but he left. Why? Fox said he left for personally causes but some years ago Vaughn's reveals: "script was garbage. If Fox give me more time i rewrite the script and make a movie with more heart and more good than X3". Yes, he left always project when there are bad. If he hasn't left X-Men: First Class...This will be good. I trust him.

Everyday i join CBM i see always the same post: "[FRICK] BORIGINS, ORIGINAL FIVE, GO TO REBOOT". Ehm... -_-" It will be good if i jump to Spider-Man's topics and i will se the post "Yes, Reboot! Hurray!". But no: when i jump to Spidey's topics i read "[Frick] reboot, let Spider-Man 4 lives!". WTF???

The same people who wants X-men's reboot because they want the movie's faithful to comics (with original five), they don't want a Spidey's reboot with Gwen as first love, Peter who make jokes and all the other things and want a sequel to garbage's Spidey 3 (and u know, Raimi's Spider-Man was good but not faithful to comics). WTF?

THIS IS A PREQUEL!!!! Stop hating. In Raimi's Spider-Man i want Gwen as first love and not MJ, i want Venom to be the real Venom, doesn't want Sandman as the Uncle Ben's killer or Harry as somethin' masked in a fly surf. But the people likes the Raimi's trilogy (that it's full of wrongs), but hate a prequel that can be good. WTF?

This movie will be good (and i seriously thinks also Spidey's reboot will be, because i heard Vanderbilt's script is more faithful to comics than all three Raimi's movies). To enjoy it you must accept two things:
- IT'S a PREQUEL TO ORIGINAL THREE MOVIES;
- THE MOVIES HAVE A CONTINUITY THAT IT'S NOT THE SAME OF THE COMICS.

When they make "X-Men 1" Singer wants original five. But technology wasn't so good to make Beast and Angel, so they cut off the chars. And Iceman was de-aged to be Rogue's interested 'cause also Gambit was cut off.

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CONTINUITY
(Read and enjoy)

* In X1 Xavier said to Wolverine that "Cyclops, Jean and Storm are some of his first Mutants". Not the First, but some of the first. So i think Xavier will reclute some mutants before Cyke and the others.
* Cyclops, Jean and Storm are 30 yo or 35 yo in X1 so in a movie set in '70s they can't be here. They're still kids. Cyke, Jean and Storm will (hypotetically) join the team some years after.
* Xavier won't be in weelchair. In X3's opening and Wolverine's end we'll see him in not weelchair, so this movie is set before X3's opening and Wolverine's end. So this is faithful to their cinematic continuity.
* But Emma Frost was in Wolverine...Yes, this is Fox's fail. They want Emma Frost in Wolverine but...If u look at credits she's not Emma Frost but "Emma/Kayla's sister". At the end we can also thinks that mutant isn't Emma Frost, but a random mutant called "Emma". Real Emma Frost appears in First Class.
* Mystique will be in it. Isn't of the same age of Cyke, Jean and Storm? I bet no. When i saw the movies (the original three) i always thinks Mystique was more old than the others. So...
* But Beast is here as a teenager! Yes. In X3 Beast said he was part of the team several years ago, before X1. I also thinks that Beast was more old than Cyclops and the others member. In X3 Cyke, Jean and Storm are 35 and Beast was 50, surely. So this is make sense. Surely he was the first mutant to join X-Men.
* Azazel, Banshee, Darwin, Angel Salvadore...What are their roles? I read that Xavier and Magneto goes around the world saving mutants. I suppose some of these mutants are small parts. Maybe they explain Azazel's and Mystique's relationship (and future Nightcrawler's born). Angel Salvadore and Banshee i don't know. Darwin in comics is Moira MacTaggert's assistent.
* Moira is here! In X3 Xavier said Moira was an old friend. In fact Moira is in this movie.
* Villains: well, we'll see Sebastian Shaw and Hellfire Club (with Emma). I think will be good.
* Havok: yes Havok is in the movie. I thinks it's good because they explain why in the original trilogy Havok isn't there and Cyclops never mentioned it. And if i make two counts...If Havok is in the movie, i will not surprise if Cyclops appears in the movie at some points...Maybe a surprise u know.

Trust me. It will be good. Only u must learn they make a prequel about the cinematic continuity they create in first three X-Movies.

Enjoy it. If it will be garbage, we'll said it but after June, 2011. For now there is only hope.

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LEEE777 - 8/21/2010, 4:52 AM
Cyke89 @ LMAO!!!!

SUPERMAN RETURNS will look like the GODFATHER when this comes out! : P

Seriously dude, FOX can [frick] off... if we're not getting the REAL ORIGINAL X-MEN!

[frick] a crappy watered down version for non X-MEN fans and sell-outs! : D

Maybe ppl on CBM.com go on because they want GOLD not just watered down OKAY to passable and actually really care about their characters they have grown up with over the years!

FIRST CLASS should be more than a average forgettable popcorn movie, it should try and be the very best, what LOTR's and WATCHMEN are!

By the way bringing up X3 doesn't help your cause.

Good write up tho! ; )
marvel72 - 8/21/2010, 5:06 AM
@ cyke89

well written article,you made some good points.

well done.

@ leee777

i have to agree with you,should be the originals.

if actually pick up issues of the x-men first class comic,what do you think they would see.

the original five of course,this is insult to x-men fans.

@ cyke89

i'm up for a spider-man reboot,if its not set in the ultimate universe its crap,i personally don't like the changes they've made to certain charactors.

i'd rather see spider-man 4,just reboot the cast & director.
LEEE777 - 8/21/2010, 5:17 AM
deadpool72 @ Exactly a pure insult!

And unfortunately the SPIDEY reboot will be ULTI, WEBB pretty much has hinted all that and more! : (

I second your Spider-man 4!
THABATMAN - 8/21/2010, 6:46 AM
I agree with you on most of this, but it should be the original 5. ACTUALLY it should be rebooted by Marvel instead of FOX. I am definately with you on people already saying that the movie will suck. it gets very annoying.

Now on the Spider-man Reboot they should have it with him being in High School, But keep the characters how they were in the comics. If Spider-man is in college then ppl who dont pay attention to cbm movies like us on this site will think it is a sequel and not a reboot. Start him off in High school OR GIVE THE RIGHTS BACK TO MARVEL!
SurvivalBeard - 8/21/2010, 6:53 AM
Isn't Banshee in this movie also, so there's always that
sweetre15 - 8/21/2010, 9:40 AM
@LEE777: Webb said he was a fan of USM but judging from the news so far it looks more like it'll have the tone of USM but also pay tribute to the Spectacular Spider-Man,hence Gwen Stacy being the first love interest and MJ only being there as the friend and Lizard being one of the villain because he was a villain in SSM but not USM. So it'll probably pay tribute to both SSM and USM and not adapt them literally.

P.S. Keep in mind that The Spectacular Spider-Man cartoon was made by Sony Pictures.


As for First Class,I think it has potential but the sequel will probably have the real fist class but I'm VERY skeptical at the moment
Checkmate - 8/21/2010, 4:59 PM
I lol'd when all the hateful comments were pretty much quoted from LEEE777.
I'm not watching this movie.
adamcawa - 8/21/2010, 5:13 PM
I wish people would get out of the mindset that CBM makers are entitled to take them into account. Fox doesn't owe comic book fans anything. Marvel, sure, and they're appeasing their fanbase quite nicely with the Avengers movie line and the recent arcs in Hulk and X-Men.

But Fox doesn't care about comic book fans, nor do they have to. It's not like the X-Men franchise has made money because of comic book fans exclusively. The average joe, of which there are many more than comic book fans, are just as responsible for their success.

And remember, Fox doesn't owe Marvel for the characters and stories, Marvel owes Fox for digging them out of debt. If anything, you guys should be thanking Fox for bastardizing the characters you know and love so that the comics, where they ARE the characters you know and love, can continue.
adamcawa - 8/21/2010, 5:15 PM
@SurvivalBeard

THANK YOU!
UncleDrew - 8/21/2010, 5:20 PM
This film won't be worth it unless Cyclops and Jean Grey are in this movie because the audience wants them and it's called first class, c'mon now!!!
KeithM - 8/21/2010, 5:27 PM
[frick] Fox. [frick] Singer. [frick] X Men: First Class.

You act like you never make any pre-judgements before a movie comes out and that's a goddamned lie.

Do you see EVERY movie released? Every? Single? One?

Didn't think so.

So you too make judgement decisions on whether a movie is worth going to see before you see it, right?

Same here.

And for the bigger picture and from what we've heard so far, I'm not liking the sound of it and it WILL NOT get my money. One less ticket is one less ticket... they all add up.
adamcawa - 8/21/2010, 5:29 PM
@KeithM yeah but most people don't judge a movie before filming has even started!
GUNSMITH - 8/21/2010, 5:29 PM
OK FOR REAL...LETS JUST BE STRAIGHT WITH THIS THING. ALL THE PAST X-MEN MOVIES BESIDES THE 3RD,

WERE GOOD....HONEST TO GAWD I JUST WANTED TO SEE AN X-4...BETTER DIRECTOR...END OF STORY, THROW IN APOCOLYPSE THE 4 HORSEMEN HEY WERE GOLD.


... I HEAR "FIRST CLASS" AND THINK FIRST CLASS AND YOUVE ESTABLISHED WHOS YOUNG WHOS OLD IN ALL THE FILMS ALREADY...WHATIS IT A TOTAL REBOOT?..IM THINKING OH NO THEYRE GOING TO DO A TWIGHLIGHT THINGY..

BUT THEN SINGER RETURNS...OK HE DID WELL ON 2 THEN LEFT US TO CREATE SUPERCRAP RETURNS..

HEY IM NOT DOWN TO TAKE BACK THE EX BUT IF THE FIRST 2 WERE OK FINE LETS SEE WHAT YOU'LL DO FOR IT..REDEM YOURSELF(I ADMIT TO YOU I SLEPT THROUGH VALKYRIE)

KEVIN BACON MACAVOY?..WELL MAYBE SOMETHING WILL WORK AND THEN COMES THE "STUFFING" THIS IS POURING IN CHARACTERS..EITHER TO MAKE A BUCK OR TO PULL FANS OF THE CHARACTERS IN...DO IT RIGHT IM JUST SAYING DO IT RIGHT. COMIC FANDOM WILL CRUCIFY YOU IF YOU SCREW wITH THEIR BELOVED CHARACTERS

I WILL NOT BE A HATER AND TEAR YOU DOWN UNLESS YOU GIVE ME REASON TO, YET AGAIN..FOOTAGE...PICTURES..... IMPRESS US.
KeithM - 8/21/2010, 5:35 PM
@adamcawa: Marvel owes Fox? Now that's bullshit.

Yeah they had to sell to survive back in 2000, but Fox got one hell of a bargain for what they paid (how much have the Marvel movies alone made them since then?), far less than the proper 'market value' had Marvel not been in such difficulties, and so they've had their money's worth a gazillion times over.

Fox owes Marvel for making a shit load of dosh from the characters they created - and how do they repay their good fortune? By making shitty movies that damage the 'image' of Marvel's bread and butter characters which may affect their future bottom line for a long time to come.

Yeah. That's gratitude for ya.

And of course people start to make judgements about a movie before it's started filming, especially these days when information is drip fed on a regular basis across the internet. It isn't like the old days when you actually had to wait for a review or a trailer at the cinema. Studios actually RELY on us making a judgement beforehand - to generate 'buzz' - just as Iron Man did at comic con a few years ago. And now that's become the norm. Sometimes it works in their favour... sometimes it doesn't. Like now.
Sortis - 8/21/2010, 5:49 PM
In X1 Xavier said to Wolverine that "Cyclops, Jean and Storm are some of his first Mutants". Not the First, but some of the first. So i think Xavier will reclute some mutants before Cyke and the others. Also Emma Frost in the comics has the diamond skin ability, so what we just ignore that? Yes great idea lets make 2 character in the same continuum that look the same and have the same name but take away half of her powers...what a f'n load dude, I wouldn't buy that with monopoly money! lmao

So what, when he says his first he means mutants he taught 10-15 years after his actual first? That isn't even passable logic on even a rudimentary level.

All you're doing is putting duct tape over a f**kin' hole and saying "All good!". The hole is still there. lmao
adamcawa - 8/21/2010, 5:53 PM
@Sortis

then don't go watch the movie, and it will still be a box office smash because it's an X-Men movie
adamcawa - 8/21/2010, 5:55 PM
@KeithM

So it's Fox's fault Marvel was desperate?
dancingmonkey08 - 8/21/2010, 6:08 PM
Good article but enough with these X-Men articles, this site is starting to lose its appeal with all this Fox and X-Men bitching
rukzimages - 8/21/2010, 6:46 PM
the hole point of x-movie is to see age of apocalypse
BrotherStarkofMABMindz - 8/21/2010, 7:34 PM
maybe it'll be good, but Fox studios is going to get theirs, they don't listen to us but they'll learn, OH YEAH THEY GONE LEARN
Ranger14 - 8/21/2010, 7:58 PM
I will lay money on it that this is not going to end up a prequel. They will use it to reboot the whole X-Men universe over again. We will not see the same actors as in the original films again. No matter how you look at it, that is a reboot. It's start over time.

"KeithM yeah but most people don't judge a movie before filming has even started!"

If the storyline/plot and script are not appealing, why can't one judge it? If we don't like the storyline...we don't like the storyline. Not much onscreen is going to change that.
Kapoleon - 8/21/2010, 9:38 PM
This movie is gonna suck sorry guys give the rights back to Marvel f@%k Fox...
ghostpudding - 8/22/2010, 1:01 AM
xmen:first class=fox's attempt to keep the rights
@integrity the only one i think was ok was xmen but i was 7 soooo...my view is probably skewed
KeithM - 8/22/2010, 2:59 AM
@adamcawa: How the hell did you make that logic jump?

It was not their 'fault' - I never even hinted at that, but there's no denying that they had a bargain and took advantage of the situation. But you'd think that having acquired the rights for such a low price and the potential for gaining a huge profit off of them, that they'd at least have some respect for the source material and treat the characters with a degree of respect...

If someone acquires the rights to make a movie of, oh I don't know, Lord of the Rings say, you'd think they'd have some respect for the extremely popular and loved source material and not intentionally go out of their way to piss off the fans of that material who made it so popular and valuable in the first place. You'd think?

Peter Jackson/Fran Cotton have some decency and brains. Fox/Rothman/Singer apparently don't.
adamcawa - 8/22/2010, 5:55 AM
@KeithM

The difference is that Lord of the Rings, like Watchmen, had a finite source. The X-Men universe has literally thousands of stories they could borrow from. How can they be expected to just pick some out of a hat? It's probably easier to just make it their own.

The biggest irony to me here is that the X-Men comics themselves are so diverse with tons of varying, retconned and conflicting storylines. Every single writer has a different vision and it's typically celebrated, but God knows it's a mighty sin if a movie writer and producer also have a different vision they want to share.
RorMachine - 8/22/2010, 6:52 AM
^^^ What this guy says. Nerd rage causes extreme lapses in logic and high levels of hypocrisy across the board. Keith, your usually pretty level headed..if pedantic about these things, but are you telling me you don't see the difference in seeing a clip for a film about 2 sisters going on holiday to Paris and not thinking its my cup of tea, and claiming for sure that a film about the X-Men will suck before a lens cap has even come off a camera because they didn't make it how I THINK it should have been made? I'm done with this argument now anyway, like i said this stuff brings out incredible stubbornness in fanboys and its impossible to argue with someone with one eye...speaking of which, I think Cyclops is a [frick]ing douchebag and I'm glad he's not in teh movie!..WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT? I must not be areal fan and hate the source material right? Nope, whatever happens in this film my comics will still be sitting on my shelf..as they always will be. No movie will change them. They are different mediums, different realities. I watch movies because I'm a fan of film. I watch directors and actors I like. If they make a film based on something I enjoy reading, I'll be exited to see it...until I'm PROVEN wrong and when the frakking movie is released, I see it, and then make my mind up.
adamcawa - 8/22/2010, 7:31 AM
dude Cyclops is so rediculously awesome in the comics right now it's not even funny
RorMachine - 8/22/2010, 8:00 AM
I haven't read X Men in ages. Since Whedon's run on Astonishing actually! He may very well be awesome now..but if your definition of awesome is that he;s a great leader and a great tactician and shots stuff out of his eyes...I'll pass;) Ah no, I have enjoyed SOME writers takes on him. I do like him in X Force because they basically just totally embraced how much of a c#nt he is in that and it works.
BManBWG89 - 8/22/2010, 8:29 AM
Can someone please tell me why articles like this make it passed the editors? I really think that if you can't write an article using proper grammar, you shouldn't be writing them in the first place.

And First Class is going to be awful.
KeithM - 8/22/2010, 9:08 AM
@adamcawa/Ror: Respecting the source does NOT mean a word for word exact translation and nobody is asking for that (apart from maybe one or two 'extremists').

Respecting the source and coming up with fresh new ways to tell stories are NOT mutually exclusive. Look at Dark Knight and Iron Man - better examples than Watchmen or LotR I agree (although the point remains the same) - because they too are adaptations of long running series which still respects the source and still tells the stories in exciting new ways.

All I ask for is both. Not too much to ask is it? :)

Look at the modern BBC adaptation of Sherlock Holmes. That picks stories out and adapts and updates them for the modern day, while still respecting the source (moreso than many 'traditional' interpretations), remaining true to the core and spirit of the characters and the stories yet still telling those stories in a fresh new way. It can be done.

That's NOT what we're seeing here and why I have a fundamental problem with what Fox are doing with these properties. No damn respect.

The idea that these people - who don't understand, care or respect what made these characters so popular and loved - can write 'better' stories than the writers who created or wrote for them for years and know them inside out is arrogance of the highest order.

Even the Nolans and Goyer did their homework and actually read some comics (and it isn't difficult to see where they got some of their inspiration from)...

Once again. Not looking for a direct translation - just some respect for what made these characters and stories so popular and loved in the first place.
KeithM - 8/22/2010, 9:34 AM
@BMan: I agree with you in principle, but one of the good things about this site is that is that it 'democracises' opinion. Anybody can write an article and while they're not always (or even often) very professionally written, the raw honesty, immediacy and degree of freedom of expression the site allows is overall a good thing imo.

However, I agree that the editors could be a bit more on the ball with correcting the more obvious and blatant errors often left in these articles (and perhaps holding them off the front page until they meet a reasonable standard?)
KeithM - 8/22/2010, 10:06 AM
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xinstituto - 8/22/2010, 11:13 AM
But Bryan S said its going to showed how Xavier will end up to wheelchair, but e the opening x3 and Wolverines end Xavier was walking and those moments are years earlier then X1 and years later First Class.. No sense :(
breakUbatman - 8/22/2010, 12:31 PM
Hmm hopefully Fox won't mess up Xavierseeing as their going to show how he ends up in the wheel chair. It has to occur after the events of Wolverine otherwise .........FAIL
NewBlackRobin1 - 8/22/2010, 2:42 PM
SPELL Check much??? WOW dude what are the credential standards to be a JOURALIST on this site. Writing ability with grammer would be nice.
Oh and my take, I'm obviously a DC guy so I want this thing to fail lol. Marvel is FLOODing the market, and any one who disagrees with me just consider the fact that they are doing another Ghost Rider I mean come ON!! Stick to Your key characters and teams. The build toward the Avengers is pretty genius you dont need 'FX original' quality made 4 TV movies like a Ghost Rider who nobody really cares about! Instead of doing that, give these Marvel cats a DECENT Punisher flick, actually I didn't have a prob with the one before the last they should have stuck with it
Conaan - 8/22/2010, 2:57 PM
personally I think the movie continuity is a little effed up.

That doesn't mean the movie will be bad, but it's just one strike against it among MANY.
ComradeGrey - 8/22/2010, 7:10 PM
It's not about whether or not it will be a good film. All the elements are set up for it to be a vast improvement over the last two shit-shows.

It's about having a marginal level of respect for the source material, and the continuity therein. Personally, I think that when you [frick] up as badly as X3 did (let alone the shitcherry on top that was Wolverine), you should be required to start over. Instead, you can dig yourself in deeper, and give people hollowed out shells that only remotely resemble their favorite characters.

The movie will be good, as a film.

The movie will be insulting as an adaptation,

and by continuing on in a flawed continuity, you validate the shittiness of the previous two films. Imagine if Chris Nolan had been forced to keep his Batman in line with the Schumacher aberrations.

At least FUX had enough sense to start over with FF and maybe Daredevil (any news on that?)
thetrubatman14 - 8/22/2010, 9:17 PM
STFUP IDIOT! YOU MAKE NO SCENCE ONCE SO EVER!!!
xmen first class is gonna blow!!! any true comic book fan would know that
ROBBEATZZZ - 8/23/2010, 8:34 AM
@xinstituto...wow before your comment about prof x walking...i was seeing peoples veiws on how the coninuity could work..but that just killed it 4 me i think..good observation
lalosuper3001 - 8/23/2010, 10:42 AM
@thetrubatman14: I'm guessing you meant to say "YOU MAKE NO SENSE WHATSOEVER". But I agree with you! Cyke89 makes no sense. He seems to love X-men so much he is blinded from the truth: Bryan singer sucks. When Marvel is able to make its own X-men movie, its gonna rock!
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