Spider-Man 4 Delay Rumors Are The Real Deal

I agree, the fans want another great Spidey film like the second one. I hope that happens and I like the Vulture but I would love to see the Lizard, I think its time we get him.

As long as those God awful Vulture/Vulteress rumors aren't true, fine with me if they take more time on the movie :)

Thank God, take the time to make it right.

it's hard to take a side here. i applaud sam for sticking to his guns and wanting to do a great story. but i side with the studio on not wanting the vulture in the movie. he is terribly uninteresting imo.

kraven and the lizard. how hard is that?

tea@ can't argue with you there! (not even sure if you were addressing just me anyway) but SM has such a rich gallery of rogues that if sam wants to use one thrid teir and make another one up... that just seems a little odd to me.
i'll start it now - REBOOT! haha

ive pointed this out before, when listening to the director commentary on 3, raimi said he wanted the vulture for number 3 but was overruled by the studio. he will not let that happen again. he has a hard on for the character for some reason. mark my words its will be vulture.

I'm sorry, I know a lot of you may not like hearing this but it's not [frick]ing rocket science. They CRANKED out the first sequel in two years, then we waited three for a shit film. I don't see why this flick is so complicated to make. Hire some BRAND NEW writers and start from scratch. Ditch Maguire cause he's getting old and it isn't the man BEHIND the mask, as in the case with IRON MAN, for these movies it's just been THE MASK.

And Anne Hathaway's price tag being too high? Really? I don't think she's that special, why not get an unknown. You could do this movie with a bunch of talented college thespians and it would still make a killing. C'mon Rami show some nuts, tell Sony to kiss off, and make this damn movie!

I hope to God they're not doing the "Vulture/Vulturess" story. That sounds incredibly lame. That could be even worse than that godawful "young Vulture" they brought in back in the 90s. God, how I hated that character! Leave him old! That's what makes the Vulture interesting. And please! Let's not see him dating Aunt May. It's been done.

The idea that they're pushing the shoot date back to work on the script is NOT a good sign, regardless of the villain. That usually indicates serious story problems when it happens, and we need a great story after that last POS.

EVERYONE WANTS THE DAMN LIZARD, WHATS THE DEAL? I MEAN, THATS WHAT EVERYONE WANTS YAKNOW?..MAJORITY.

i think marvel need to take the rights to all their properties and make them all great films.

i hope they use lizard and, for inspiration, turn to some of the old stories of batman and killer croc. back in the day some of those battles down in the sewers and in other dark places were absolutely epic, with batman physically pushed to the brink and outmatched and having to outsmart the killer croc. a dark, gritty spiderman 4 with a ravenous, deadly, wild portrayal of lizard would be the bomb (imho). vulture would be cool for fans, but the old bald guy with a pudgy belly would be a joke for most people (while fans would be up in arms over a newer, sleeker, tech-savvy version).

so there it is - turn to some of the old school batman-killer croc stories for some inspiration! lizard could be a really awesome foe on film

hey give singer a break he did a great job on the x-men and i think after he does x-first class 1 ,and 2 he should do x-4,and 5 back to back so the original cast get more story. then marvel gets the rights back and does the films closer to how they were.

Bring in James Cameron. He wants to do it. This would be the best news ever.

It's for the best. Nobody wants another Spidey 3 mistake. Nobody wants an incompetent story and the actors are too old. It should not be rushed and I think it's time to put it on the back burner. Besides, there's gonna be alotta blockbusters by 2011. Green Lantern, Thor, Capt America, and Ghost Busters 3 with the possibilities of Transformers 3, GI Joe 2 and Star Trek 2. We'll do just fine without another Raimi approved Spidey film.

NO THE VULTURE JUST PLAIN SUCKS I DONT WANNA SEE AN OLD DUDE TRYING TO DROP SPIDEY FROM HIGH ALTITUDES...LOL! STUDIO [frick]ED UP LAST TIME AND NOW THEY ARE TOO PARANOID TO LET RAIMI BRING HIS OLD DUDE TO THE SCREEN, WHICH IS NOT AN UNFOUNDED CONCERN. I MEAN IS THE VULTURE IN ANYONES TOP 5 SPIDEY ROGUES?

Maybe yours dellamorte

I don't want Vulture, BUT I do have a certain amount of faith in Raimi so Im gonna give him the benifit of the doubt until we have solid reasons not to.

I saw Drag Me To Hell for the first time this week on blu-ray (awesome movie!) and to me, that movie showed that Raimi is still on top form as a director! Personally, I balme a bad script for why Spider-Man 3 was so awful - if Raimi is given full creative control with the fourth movie then I have faith that even if he does use a fairly lame villain like Vulture, we'll end up with a movie as good as Spider-Man 2!

I still hope Raimi decides to go with Lizard and Kraven, fingers crossed.

GI Joe sucks.

I just hope they find a way of making the Peter/Aunt May relationship more interesting...

well if it turns out to be another sp3 they wont be getting money again, emo parker left me with nightmares lol

could all be misinformation. i think i recall sam saying he was kind of mad for the last one because all of the leaks during production.

vulture wouldnt be bad as a secondary villain. not the main one. that should be scorpion, lizard, or electro

Its not that Venom SHOULDNT have been in SM3 its that he was used IMPROPERLY! Raimi doesnt know a damn thing about the comic book Spider-Man and Tobey doesnt know a damn thing about Peter Parker. I agree with Tyler about the "Vulture/Vulturess" script. TERRIBLE IDEA! And if that was one of Raimis ideas than that just further proves my point. He doesnt know anything about the characters in these stories. I have a feeling if ANY ONE of us wrote a script for SM3 that included Venom it would have been an awesome film with no dance numbers. Raimi probably thought emo Tobey dancing around was so cool. This whole thing just makes me depressed.

i have kind of had enough of Rami's vison of spider-man. the first spider-man movie was what got me into comics (my shop is literally 200 ft from the movie theatre, wasn't a far trip) and the more spider-man comics i go back and read form any era the more i realize while rami did a good job, as did the actors, theres just too much missing from it for me to really pine for another movie by the director.
Unless they do another tirlogy, something like this

SM4: Lizard and Kraven. MJ moves away. peter and gwen begin relationship. cliffhanger- Norman osborn is alive

SM5: Norman uses doc ocks tech no create a scorpion tail and hires gargan to kill spider-man. Peter is out to prove spider-man is the real deal when mysterio claims he's phony. ending- goblin drops gwen off of bridge.

SM'SIX': spider-man takes revenge on goblin but has to fight sinister six: scorpion, mysterio, goblin, sandman, kraven, lizard. MJ comes back into his life. they get married.

Then you open the door wide open for a symbiote trilogy. and you have yourself nine movies and 3 billion dollars.

im not saying Rami's bad. he's very very good! but i just think if this is the way things are going maybe it's time to count your 1.3 billion blessings and call it a day.