Chris Evans Says Captain America "Gets Some Conflict" In The Avengers

Check out what Evans has to say about keeping a character like Cap from becoming bland, and how he will evolve by the time he thaws out and meets The Avengers..

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By Mark "RorMachine" Cassidy - 6/28/2011
There are those that don't think too much of Captain America as a character because really, where is the flaw? He is the perfect human being in every respect. Of course some great writers have managed to take that and make it work for the character and we have had some fantastic stories featuring Cap in the comics, but how does a movie that deals only with Steve Rogers' origin story and his first time strapping on the shield overcome that?

Speaking to SFX Chris Evans addresses this, and also reveals that come Joss Whedon's Avengers Cap will be dealing with a lot more internal struggles than he did in his first movie outing..

SFX: Marvel heroes are often distinguished by their flaws. What's Cap's?

Evans: That's the issue. When I first read the script I thought, "There's a risk of this being bland. I don't know what his internal struggle is. He starts out a great guy, he ends a great guy. Where's the conflict?" Everyone asks the question, "If someone killed your brother, would you want to murder that person or would you take them to jail?". There does come a time when Cap has to remember he's been given thsi power and not turn into an evil person.

SFX: Will he evolve further in The Avengers?

Evans: That's where he is gonna get some conflict. It's gonna be about not just adjusting to the fact that every human being he knows is dead, but adjusting to the evolution in society, and how modern values and morals have changed. But Cap's not a complainer. He doesn't whine. So it's gonna be a matter of finding conflict but without moaning. They do deal with that in The Avengers script.


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DaenerysTargaryen - 6/28/2011, 3:51 PM
I agree with evans over the whole "There's a risk of him being bland". I mean....Stevey really doesn't have that many flaws pre-Avengers but IDK. I still love him ;)
Ethic - 6/28/2011, 3:53 PM
Hopefully they don't go the route of the Ultimate Avengers animated films, cuz they were the most unlikable bunch of assholes I'd ever seen come from a comic.
I didn't give a crap whether they were all killed.
imnotahero - 6/28/2011, 3:58 PM
@ZeroEthic - totally agree. I saw the ultimate avengers movie before i read the ultimates and was completely blown away with how different the characters were.

Ethic - 6/28/2011, 4:01 PM
lol I actually hated them, especially Pym, jesus christ he's wrecked my head.
VanCityKid - 6/28/2011, 4:04 PM
Yeah Im still wondering whether its the honest and pure Cap from the 616 Universe or the douchebag, all american Cap from the Ultimates, that we'll get in TFA.
D117 - 6/28/2011, 4:05 PM
Pym was such a dick lol
WellDrawn - 6/28/2011, 4:05 PM
The one redeeming factor from Ultimate Avengers was the 'everybody vs Hulk' fight at the end. That scene better be replicated somehow in Avengers...

...although even that made no sense - none of their weapons have any affect on Hulk, yet a typical syringe was able to peirce his skin?!

Also, how stupid were the Chitauri (dumb Skrull knockoffs) with their pointy feet?
HelaGood - 6/28/2011, 4:06 PM
@TheBlackWidow agreed! Caps never was one of my faves, but i gotta tell you, from what ive seen so far on this film, i am totally stoked!
Cumulactus - 6/28/2011, 4:07 PM
@ Zeroethic & Imnotahero:

I agree.
BIGBMH - 6/28/2011, 4:08 PM
VanCityKid, I don' think you have to worry aout him being like Ultimate. To me, Ultimate Cap has kind of and ego. All their focus on skinny Steve suggests to me that he's going to be a very humble character.
Dechiriko - 6/28/2011, 4:10 PM
Cap doesn't whine. Learn fanboys.
VanCityKid - 6/28/2011, 4:13 PM
@BIGBMH yeah alot of the dialogue we've seen and especially the grenade scene suggests that we'll get a humble Steve but some like the "kid from brooklyn" parts comes off as cocky
Hellsing - 6/28/2011, 4:15 PM
wait what people are still wondering if were getting 616 cap or ultimate cap have you not seen the trailers, its pretty clear to me that its 616 cap. Marvel have pulled a lot from the Ultimate universe but the characters are 616, Hulks not a cannibal, Tony Starks been lifted straight from the comics and Thor isn't a hippy. So I don't see why that would change with Cap. Honestly I wanna see Cap taking charge of the team Slowly over the course of the movie and then hear him calling the rallying cry in the final battle epic!
Bodwulf - 6/28/2011, 4:20 PM
@Dechiriko good point.
Jennn - 6/28/2011, 4:23 PM
based on what we've seen so far it looks as if it'll be a mix of 616/Ultimates story lines with 616 based characterizations.
Coachella - 6/28/2011, 4:24 PM
Captain America is basicly marvel's superman.
Jennn - 6/28/2011, 4:28 PM
i mean, Joss wrote the script. and when he spoke about the Iron Man/Captain America dynamic he used Civil War as a reference point for their banter/arguing.
Lert - 6/28/2011, 4:36 PM
yawn
SageMode - 6/28/2011, 4:40 PM
@VanCityKid: i don't think that quote was cocky. Brash, but not cocky. There have been times where 616 Cap showed his brash side (most notably during Civil War, and during his run as Captain Steve Rogers) without it coming off as being a doucehead like the Ultimate version. But i think its already been confirmed that his 616 counterpart's personality is what you'll see in the Marvel Cinematic Universe.
nuck82 - 6/28/2011, 4:47 PM
man i cant wait till this movie comes out, i think its going to be so great
cable23 - 6/28/2011, 4:50 PM
I see what Evans is talking about, Cap is virtually the most likable superhero of all time. I mean who dont like the Cap? Everyone has some amount of respect for him even the villans. The only inner conflict I can see him having is maybe being responsible for Buckys death and having to adapt to a new world. Other than that Caps the man.

@Intruder What cover is that for? Is it a variant?
cable23 - 6/28/2011, 4:51 PM
Also Cap needs to be the leader not Tony. I hated the fact Tony practically won Civil War.
SageMode - 6/28/2011, 4:53 PM
@Nuck82 and Cable23: I second those.
cerrone6 - 6/28/2011, 4:57 PM
@Jennn i totally agree: Mix of 616 & Ultimates is what its looking like so far. No matter what version you like of C.A You all will agree that a boring bland movie is not what we want. Fans forget that theres a wider base of people who dont know who C.A is so the best way to have him on screen being a hero at the same time interesting is to have the 616/ Ultimate Mix. Just look at the Avengers cast Downey, Helmsworth, Hawkeye, Widow, Hulk. ...Yes you will need some firmness sometimes cockyness but allways well reserved attitude to deal with this bunch. What worked in comics must be made interesting, believable, & great especially to those that are alien to C.A. I think 616 /Ultimate Cap would make a good screen adaption.
SageMode - 6/28/2011, 5:12 PM
@Cable: actually, Captain America's side was winning, but Steve saw how the fighting really didnt solve anything at the end, so he reluctantly gave himself up. So, you can say that Iron Man's side won by forfeit. Lol
Zounds - 6/28/2011, 5:47 PM
Definitely see an opportunity to have Rogers (old America) and Stark(new America) conflict...leaving Thor as the voice of reason within the team?

Wonder if there will be a, "You're not my father!" moment between the two...?
Gab - 6/28/2011, 6:01 PM
CAPTAIN AMERICA THE BOY FROM NEW YORK CITY!
continuezero - 6/28/2011, 6:06 PM
Well clearly his struggle comes from coming to grips with the fact that he was frozen in ice for 50 years and when he awakes his entire world is pretty much gone. I think having to find something to fight for is his struggle. What is he trying to save? What is he trying to fight for? That quote from Dr. Manhattan where he says "Why would I save a world I no longer have any stake in?" (Or something along those lines) applies to Cap too. He has no stake in the new world he's in, so what is he fighing for?
cable23 - 6/28/2011, 6:09 PM
@Sagemode I know, Tony lost some cool points after that. lol
SentinelofLiberty - 6/28/2011, 6:11 PM
VanCity, I kind of hear what you're saying, but to me the "kid from Brooklyn" thing was a prime example of the humble Cap.

Skull: "What made you so special?"
Cap: "Nothin'. I'm just a kid from Brooklyn."

Cap saying once again that he is no better or more important than any other soldier, despite everyone else knowing he is the ONLY supersoldier....
SentinelofLiberty - 6/28/2011, 6:18 PM
@ Intruder, that cover and the Arlington scene are awesome! Is that scene also from Man Out of Time?

I can see how...even if he seems bland...Cap would come off as preachy, perhaps superior, and an antique to the younger generation. Particularly Stark.

As far as Ultimates/616, it seems obvious we will be getting 616 Steve (thank Odin!). However, I just finished watching the first two DVD sets of Earths' Mightiest Heroes, and I think that is going to be a HUGE material source for the Avengers movie.

Oh, and Tony basically won the Civil War, but only because Cap is Cap and ended up doing what was best for the people he was protecting, which was not destroying IM. ;-)
topcat10 - 6/28/2011, 6:50 PM
There should be plenty of CONFLICT in The Avengers mainly between themselves. Hawkeye should be constantly undermining Cap for his age and his old fashioned ways. Cap will be at odds with Stark's cavalier attitude. Hawkeye and Stark will both be hitting on Black Widow, who will secretly have a crush on Cap. Stark and Thor will have technology vs magic issues. Thor and Hulk will be quarrelling as who is stronger/better warrior etc.
Niuhll - 6/28/2011, 7:24 PM
I'd imagine his conflict will come with his power, being pushed around all his life and given the chance to push back or fight the good fight.

Though i'm looking forward to Cap more in Avengers, after how much he missed between WW2 and Now, to know Howard Stark and see who is son is. Cap will be the symbol of what America was or should be and Iron Man the image of America now.

A world on the brink of fighting wars with unmanned aircraft, near the point of putting Robots on the battlefield, where does a super soldier go?
TheMyth - 6/28/2011, 7:24 PM
All this anticipation building up for this film has caused me to rediscover just how great a character Cap is. I cannot wait for this film.
Geeksiah - 6/28/2011, 10:18 PM
1. I don't get the Ultimates/ Ultimate Avengers hate.
2. I like how Evans sees the character.


SentinelofLiberty - 6/28/2011, 10:45 PM
Nihull, slow clap in your direction. "A world on the brink of fighting wars with unmanned aircraft, near the point of putting Robots on the battlefield, where does a super soldier go?" VERY well said, my friend!

@TheMyth, ditto on the slow clap!
cable23 - 6/28/2011, 11:12 PM
@Niuhll That was sheer beauty. Bravo!
cable23 - 6/28/2011, 11:14 PM
@Geeksiah Read Ultimatum that was probally the biggest slap in the face to comicbook fans ever. ( Oh yeah its up there with Brand New Day) Ultimates had so much potential. And now they killed Spidey, who was the best Ultimate universe character. I loved that series. So now Im sticking with 616.
moneybanks - 6/29/2011, 1:48 AM
SuperArgo.....

THAT GIFF IS SOO DOPE!!
Orphix - 6/29/2011, 2:06 AM
At the risk of being boring one of the basics of screenwriting is how does your character develop and change.

In Batman, Iron Man and even Thor we see big dramatic growth on all these guys.

It's very hard to be empathetic and invest in a character if, as he takes on all the challenges and conflicts and obstacles of the story, he remains totally unchanged.

On a good film a lot of the reasons we feel satisfied with the ending is because we get a real sense that the 'hero' has been genuinely effected by the adventure they have been on.

So I can understand Evans' worries. And hence the reason you need a flaw. All human beings (no matter how heroic and good) need to fill that missing part of themselves to make themselves better.

I think with Cap his inner 'problem' will stem from the fact that he was weak and bullied and couldn't fight back. Thats gonna effect your head - even if you get super powers. And then when you do your mind is going to be all over the place trying to use them in the right way.
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