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Russell Crowe Hints At A Jor-El/General Zod Scrap In Man Of Steel

It seems this version of Jor-El might have a more physical role than some other incarnations of the character we have seen, as Russell Crowe Tweets about a prolonged battle with Michael Shannon's villainous General Zod..

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By Mark "RorMachine" Cassidy - 10/19/2011
Any previous screen versions of Superman's Daddy Jor-El have always taken a more passive, mentor type role and pretty much served the plot by doling out advice to Supes and some exposition to the audience. Well that may change with Zack Snyder's upcoming take on the mythology. Russell Crowe, who will play Jor-El, certainly suggests that we will see some fisticuffs from the character as he goes toe to toe with Michael Sheen's General Zod..



Here are the Tweets from Crowe..

15km bike ride,umpteen hours fighting Michael Shannon. He's very hard to put down.

Hard to tell who wins, we are still fighting tomorrow


In most versions of Superman's origin story Jor-El sends his infant son off to Earth and then dies along with the rest of the Kryptonians when their planet is destroyed. Judging by this I'm guessing Snyder will be tweaking that slightly and have Jor-El go down swinging. But who knows. There have been some very strange developments with Man Of Steel recently with a bearded, aproned Clark Kent along with most of the cast snapped on set in Vancouver-doubling for Alaska. One thing is for sure, I can't wait to see how all of this pans out.



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RunDTC - 10/19/2011, 8:19 AM
might save this crapfest of a movie
ComicBuzz - 10/19/2011, 8:20 AM
Hell yes, please let it be on Krypton!
RorMachine - 10/19/2011, 8:45 AM
I was trying to find a picture of Jor-El and Zod fighting for the article, there isn't one! Snyder is certainly making this movie his own.
SpiderManofHouseStark - 10/19/2011, 8:53 AM
Jor-el vs Zod ... epic
and i hope he lays that mother [frick]er out ... Jor-El is the real man of steel
MassExecutions - 10/19/2011, 8:58 AM
Gotta be on Krypton, so no superpowers then, right?

Hey have the comics ever done a play on words in the comics and featured the planet CRYPTon? Shouldn't they have done that for Blackest Night? If not, there you go DC. You can have that one for free. Don't say I never gave ya' noth'n.
rbfn04 - 10/19/2011, 9:01 AM
So "Jor-El" will throw a phone at Zod?

Man, this movie's gonna suckhard...
RorMachine - 10/19/2011, 9:03 AM
Goddamn, yes, obviously Goyer too..but the director does have some control over what stays and what doesn't in the script. Snyder will be bringing that vision to the screen.
rbfn04 - 10/19/2011, 9:07 AM
@Superguy Im against changing the whole [frick]ing background of the character.

Why make a Superman movie if you gonna change everything? Come up with your own character ifthat's the case.
shadow314 - 10/19/2011, 9:18 AM
so um, this is basically going to be a fight between two humans, no? They have no powers on krypton.

So this does not excite me. Zod is just going to whoop dat ass
bhattib - 10/19/2011, 9:21 AM
boring epic fail yet agin. no one is interested in seeing superman dad fighting. most people will be desparate to see Superman. ppl will be in sitting waiting and waiting till he finally appears
SuperSomething616 - 10/19/2011, 9:24 AM
It'll be on Krypton...Jor-El has always been responsible for imprisoning Zod and his followers...why not have him take him down too!!!
rbfn04 - 10/19/2011, 9:27 AM
@Superguy Returns was a rehash on Donner's take. I'm not talking about the movies. I'm talking about the character.

@MrEko I just think they arechanging everything about Superman. So Jor-El is an armyman now? CHange for the sake of changing, to be his take. Than come up with a character of your own...
marvel72 - 10/19/2011, 9:39 AM
would be cool to see them fight,bring it on.
rbfn04 - 10/19/2011, 9:43 AM
A scientist versus a general. Yeah, fair fight...
incrediblesuperbatspider - 10/19/2011, 9:46 AM
That picture of Michael Shannon is uncanny,yet it's exactly how I see Zod in the film
naterator - 10/19/2011, 9:47 AM
@intruder.....a rape scene would definitely get Superman a R rated film....i doubt WB is feeling would be the smartest move since Watchmen.
Trapdinsteel - 10/19/2011, 10:03 AM
I'm going to say this with full expectation of getting flamed for it but since they are changing things about the character, one thing that always made me scratch my head is that all of a sudden a yellow sun gives Kal-el all of these new powers that were not inherent in his alien physiology. It would be interesting to see these abilities present on krypton on a much SMALLER scale.

So under the red sun you could pretty much heat up your dinner with your heat vision instead of the intensity of Superman's normal optical blasts on earth. Perhaps instead of the freeze breath on earth the Krypton equivalent would be a fan blowing on the high setting, Kryptonians having the ability to hover for short periods instead of flying, having increased strength and durability but not be impervious to injury (kinda like kryptonians being at captain america strength level compared to humans) and so on.

While not impervious to extinction as their planet explodes, I would like to see an advanced civilization not only with intelligence but also in regards to how much more they are physically advanced on the evolutionary scale compared to mortal humans.
Rothwilder - 10/19/2011, 10:04 AM
Fightin Round the World......
ckal - 10/19/2011, 10:12 AM
I can bet you that Jor-El loses.
DarkKnight4ever - 10/19/2011, 10:13 AM
Jorel fighting Zod. Bring it on. I am ready for a reboot of Superman that brings it. The main problem with Superman Returns was that it was not very original and more of a tribute to Donner/Reeves. Hell, Routh even looked like Reeves as Clark Kent.

I am really looking forward to this flick and not second guessing every plot twist they insert. My only wish is respect for the original source material be kept in context. Superman is Kalel, he comes to Earth due to the destruction of Krypton, grew up in Smallville, and moved on to Metropolis as an adult. Costume alterations, whether Martha and or Jonathan are still around, or Lois has red or black hair are minor issues. I am looking for a great story with plenty of action and Superman delivering some knock out blows instead of the wimpy stuff we saw in Superman Returns.
DarkKnight4ever - 10/19/2011, 10:15 AM
Correction ..Reeve...I'm and old guy and still get the last names of Chris and George twisted on occasion.
Shaman - 10/19/2011, 10:16 AM
Trapdinsteel- I entirely second that motion!!! ALL IN FAVOR???
KalEl84 - 10/19/2011, 10:48 AM
Actually, in some incarnations, Krypton was a very hostile planet embroiled in wars, so it's no great surprise to me that Jor-El would fight. In fact, Kal-El is always said to have very Kryptonian instincts, so he'd have to have the mantle of hero passed down. Jor-El died trying to save Krypton just as Superman would die saving Earth.
Trapdinsteel - 10/19/2011, 10:58 AM
@Shaman & MrEko - glad to hear that others would be open to it, I will be sure to send Snyder a memo detailing my idea!

@Scorpion - I wasn't thinking along the lines of making scientific sense just more logical. The yellow sun would certainly be the reason why he becomes so powerful as it amplifies his kryptonian physiology, I just think it would make a better story with a more solid background is all.

I respect those who prefer the traditional approach to the powers manifesting under the yellow sun and at the day I have never had a real problem with it...just throwing this alternative out there for discussion.
Trapdinsteel - 10/19/2011, 10:59 AM
*at the end of the day.
Emjeed - 10/19/2011, 11:04 AM
This makes total sense and will still remain in canon.. From the comments, Jor el discovered/created the phantom zone. Meaning he would have to have had a big part in putting Zod in there.. And this time, a physical part at that. Why would Zod hate his heirs if all the guy did was build the prison that the council put Zod in ? I think that at the end of the fight Jor el locks Zod up in the Zone hence his vendetta against Jor el.. And since Jor el is dead Zod goes after the next best thing.. His son Kal El
Emjeed - 10/19/2011, 11:05 AM
From the comics **
l0rdleg0las - 10/19/2011, 11:10 AM
dye that bitches hair! i don't want a red head Lois.
Emjeed - 10/19/2011, 11:13 AM
But then again we don't even know if Zod will be put in the phantom zone.. And if he is , what catalyst helps his escape.. And why does he happen to be on earth.. So many questions man.. This movie needs to come out ASAP
catman - 10/19/2011, 11:17 AM
This is sooo great!! God bless you Snyder! That is gonna be awesome!
mainstream05 - 10/19/2011, 11:24 AM
Am I the only one who took it literally and thinks Russell Crowe is ACTUALLY fighting Michael Shannon? Seems just as likely to me.
Nubase - 10/19/2011, 11:25 AM
doubters are expecting this to be a complete copy of donners superman and superman returns.....it won't, this movie will make everyone forget about the donner movies and syders crapfest

donners movies were correct for its time and superman 2 is still upthere among the greats, even nolan used superman 1 and 2 are inspiration for batman begins but superman in the comic books since those movies have moved on.

This movie will be amazing to watch, l have no doubts, if it was made by someone else and the script by unknowns instead of goyer and nolan l would be doubting it myself.
blue18 - 10/19/2011, 11:31 AM
YES!!! That is all.
Akercocke - 10/19/2011, 11:36 AM
Kryptonian pumpkin pie eating contest!!! Jor-El wins by a mile!!!
Emjeed - 10/19/2011, 11:38 AM
@mainstream ROTFL you make a valid point
Greengo - 10/19/2011, 11:39 AM
15km! What a wus!

That's like 3 miles.
revloveR - 10/19/2011, 12:08 PM
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revloveR - 10/19/2011, 12:09 PM
XD

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-DblXaqQMk
Neek2086 - 10/19/2011, 12:10 PM
@darkknight4ever I couldn't agree with u more. Your second paragraph hit it right on the money!
JaySin420 - 10/19/2011, 12:40 PM
Casting Crowe as Jor-El was genius, Shannon as Zod was even better...but having them fight each other would be literally the greatest thing ever.

I'm just worried that they might make Cavill look bad cause they're such amazing actors.
KNIGHT3000 - 10/19/2011, 1:04 PM
NightWingNut - 10/19/2011, 1:07 PM
*SPOILER ALERT* Jor-El DIES! :-P
soaponapope - 10/19/2011, 1:41 PM
if they're still on krypton though, wouldn't they not be super powered and just be two guys fighting?
ShadowlordSavage - 10/19/2011, 3:16 PM
As I recall Jor-el wasn't a push over in Superman the animated series. He also had a personal hand in taking down the animated version of Jax-ur (who in true had of Zod's origin or story arc).

So there could be a good a likely reason why Jor-el would fight Zod. Plus a Krypton Scientist and a genius level one at that could have something up his sleeve.

It's not a truly unbelievable thing to happen and as I recall Krypton has gone through different reasons for it's destruction, couple of them did involve war so armor could make sense and is not necessarily out comics in those cases. Besides and I hate to say this, but Donner version of Krypton was exactly in comics at the time either, it was something that was made up on film then later introduced into comics. I don't recall Lex Luther having any real-estate plans (like the one in Superman the movie)in comics either.

Changes and departures can happen in Superhero films it just depends how well it's executed in the final product. As I've said before just because certain things are different in this film doesn't mean the core of those characters aren't still intact. It doesn't mean the actors will be poor, or the story will be poor, the visuals, action and effects will be poor. All it means is that the way they are going about the story will be a bit different and that does not necessarily mean that the film will suck.

Batman Begins,The Dark Knight, The Dark Knight Rises, even The Amazing Spider-man, the same did or is happening with them too.
rbfn04 - 10/19/2011, 3:57 PM
Really? Now you guys want kryptonians to have Superpowers while in Krypton? WHy not make them look like Martian Manhunter also? Why not make them all be able to save Krypton? Maybe Krypton didn1't need to blow up and we could have a world of kryptonians running around.... sigh...
ShadowlordSavage - 10/19/2011, 4:09 PM
@rbfn04 Lighten up man they're just coming up with "what if" ideas etc.
ShadowlordSavage - 10/19/2011, 5:11 PM
@TheGODDAMNSUPERGUY I agree, it wouldn't be a plain fist fight, I have no doubt of that.
One2ephu - 10/19/2011, 5:40 PM
So pumped for this movie now. Only snyder could bring us
real superman action sequences that all prior directors
failed to deliver.
maskman0 - 10/19/2011, 8:45 PM
I get the feeling Goyer made had thrown us a curve ball with Zod. What if Russel Crowe is playing two roles? Jor'el and Brainiac in the form of Jor'el. Probably takes over fortress of solitude and it's AI, and used the phantom zone projector to let out the baddies. He is wearing the same dark armor like the rest of them. This is just speculation.
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