ZACK SNYDER'S JUSTICE LEAGUE Producer Deborah Snyder Explains Challenges Of Finishing The Movie During COVID

Zack Snyder's Justice League producer Deborah Snyder has revealed the challenges of finishing the movie in the midst of the pandemic, while also explaining why HBO Max was the best place for its debut...

By JoshWilding - Mar 15, 2021 03:03 AM EST

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While the #ReleaseTheSnyder Cut movement was certainly a vocal one, it actually paying off seemed beyond unlikely. However, Zack Snyder persisted in teasing his vision for Justice League on Vero, and WarnerMedia ultimately made the decision to have Zack Snyder's Justice League debut - in its finished state - on the HBO Max streaming service.

In production notes for the movie, producer Deborah Snyder admits that, "Never in our wildest imaginations did we think we would finish it. We just had this version for ourselves."

"We knew the money it was going to take to complete the production – there was no music done, over 2500 VFX shots needed to be finished," she continues. "So, we put together a big presentation: who’s the fan base, what numbers are we looking at, what are numbers in comparison to other hit films for streamers. We felt like if we could make the case that these numbers would translate into subscribers, it would make sense to do it."

The COVID-19 pandemic very nearly derailed plans for Zack Snyder's Justice League, but Deborah embraced the challenge.

"I said, now is the time to do this. Because lot of movies are shutting down. A lot of companies had capacity now, companies that maybe wouldn’t have been able to keep their doors open. It was great to be able to support vendors that we had worked with for a long time."

Even if theaters were open right now, releasing a four-hour movie would have been a challenge. Exhibitors wouldn't want their screens occupied for that long throughout the day, though Zack has previously said there are other versions of the "Snyder Cut" which are quite a bit shorter.

For Deborah, HBO Max was the best possible destination for this cut of Justice League.

"Working with HBO Max is the best possible situation, because you can really take a deep dive into the characters in a way you couldn’t do in a theatrical version of it," she adds. "There are hard core fans that are going to sit through the movie and people who will sit through a little at a time. It was important to us to make sure that people have options in how they want to view it."

We'll have more to share with you from Zack and Deborah soon, including some exclusive comments from the former later this week. For now, let us know your thoughts on this in the usual place.

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and rumoured characters in Zack Snyder's Justice League!

12. Ryan Choi

Ryan Choi's name might not ring a bell if you don't know your comics, but he's the current holder of the Atom moniker.

A gifted student of Ray Palmer on the page, he took over the role after his mentor vanished, and became one of the DC Universe's greatest superheroes in the process. Unfortunately, we're not banking on seeing the S.T.A.R. Labs scientist suit up at any point in Justice League.

His future as a superhero could still be teased, though.

On Vero, Snyder has said that Ryan is the "Director of nanotechnology [S.T.A.R. Labs]," and his involvement with the Mother Boxes could be what leads to his size-changing exploits. In Justice League, the character is set to be played by Orion Lee.

11. The Joker

One of the biggest surprises with Justice League's reshoots was the addition of Jared Leto's Joker. First reported by the trades, his role in the film was later confirmed by Snyder and the actor himself.

Everything that's been shared by the director has pointed to a Knightmare team-up, with Batman and The Joker forced to work alongside each other to combat Darkseid's forces. The Clown Prince of Crime has been described as "road-weary," and he'll likely be portrayed with long hair.

It's an intriguing addition, and could prove to be a highlight in the Snyder Cut.

Not everyone loved Leto's take on The Joker in 2016's Suicide Squad, so the actor has the chance to prove everyone wrong and exceed expectations with this project.

10. Mera

Amber Heard's very public legal battle with ex-husband Johnny Depp has seen fans turn against the actress, and demands for her to be fired from Aquaman 2 soon started going viral.

From what we know, that's not the plan for the DC Comics sequel, though there are claims she will have a limited role. Only time will tell whether that's true, but it has been confirmed that Heard was part of the reshoots for Snyder's Justice League last year.

We can only hope those cringe-worthy underwater bubble scenes have been removed, though we know from stills shared on Vero that Mera also appears on land at some point.

Not everyone will be happy about Mera being here, but it's happening, folks!

9. Martian Manhunter

You might remember Lois Lane meeting with Martha Kent in Justice League, mostly thanks to a ludicrous, "funny" news report playing in the background about a woman's husband going missing.

Snyder, however, had a very different idea for how this meeting would end.

As Martha got up to leave, she was to be shown transforming into Martian Manhunter on the other side of the door before becoming Man of Steel's General Swanwick. The idea was that Swanwick had always been a superhero in disguise, keeping an eye on Superman to make sure the Kryptonian wasn't a threat to the world at large.

Harry Lennix has confirmed he'll be in the Snyder Cut, but we have no clue whether the actor will have more to do than just this scene.

8. Black Suit Superman

Is a new suit a character? No, but seeing as all but a few seconds of Henry Cavill's scenes in Justice League were from reshoots, everything from the method of his resurrection to what state he's in upon returning is bound to be different in Snyder's film.

Whedon's goal was to deliver a Superman more in line with his hopeful, happy comic book counterpart. Snyder has his own ideas for the Man of Steel, however, and seemingly believes he needs to be put through a traumatic experience before becoming that Superman.

Not only will fans get to see the "Black Suit Superman" from the comics, but also a Man of Steel who potentially has a very different personality and outlook.

This is exciting, but might not resonate with every fan.

7. Cyborg's Mom

Whedon's Justice League made vague mention of a car crash which resulted in the death of Cyborg's mom, but Snyder's cut looks set to clear things up with Victor Stone's origin story.

In the comics, she was a S.T.A.R. Labs scientist who died while trying to save her son alongside her husband Silas (a scene fans caught a glimpse of in Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice).

We don't know how much of that will make it into the Snyder Cut, but images shared by Snyder have confirmed that Cyborg's mother will appear both in flashbacks and a dream sequence when the Mother Boxes combine, and Darkseid offers Vic the normal life he so desperately desires.

It'll be interesting to see how this pans out.

6. Vulko

We were introduced to Willem Dafoe's Vulko in Aquaman, but that wasn't always the first DC film he was supposed to appear in.

Instead, Snyder planned to introduce Arthur Curry's Atleantean advisor in Justice League, with Vulko presenting the trident to him (which would have greatly altered what we saw in 2019's Aquaman).

It's likely the film will now spend more time explaining why Arthur chose to help his fellow heroes defeat Steppenwolf, and after Vulko's introduction was rewritten for Aquaman, Snyder looks set to deliver a completely different interpretation of the Atlantean in his cut.

The photos shared to Vero have pointed to a new look for the character as well.

5. Darkseid

Uxas, Darkseid's earlier incarnation, will be part of the film's flashback scenes, but there are plans for Darkseid, too.

The much older version of the Apokolips ruler is only expected to play a relatively minor role in Justice League, but it's still something comic book fans are getting hugely excited about.

As well as appearing in a vision tempting Cyborg to come over to his side, he'll be shown standing in a Boom Tube staring down the team after they send Steppenwolf packing (minus his head). Those are the only two semi-confirmed sequences, though we'd be surprised if Darkseid doesn't also show up in any Knightmare scenes.

We just hope this lives up to the lofty expectations of fans.

4. Deathstroke

Joe Manganiello had a minor role in the theatrical cut of Justice League as Slade Wilson, and was portrayed as someone Lex Luthor hoped to recruit for his "Injustice League."

Snyder's plan, however, was to set up Ben Affleck's The Batman, with Luthor tasking Deathstroke with killing the Dark Knight (revenge for his time spent in Arkham Asylum). That film didn't happen, and it's now unclear how the filmmaker intends to deal with that in his HBO Max cut.

It's been strongly hinted that Deathstroke will be part of any Knightmare scenes, so perhaps he goes gunning for Batman in the distant future instead?

Whatever the case may be, we know Manganiello has shot additional footage for the Snyder Cut.

3. Robin

Snyder maintains that he'd like to tell the story of The Joker killing Robin one day, and has even hinted it might be in the form of a comic book pencilled by Jim Lee.

However, as Jared Leto was on set for Knightmare scenes, we can't help but wonder if the filmmaker took this opportunity to film that iconic moment for a flashback. It would be a major missed opportunity not to have done so, especially as fans are beyond desperate to see this in live-action.

Who could play Robin?

Once upon a time, it was rumored that Snyder's son had been cast as Dick Grayson for these scenes, so keep everything crossed that he got the chance to do so for this cut of Justice League.

2. Lex Luthor

In a deleted scene from Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice, Lex Luthor was shown communicating with Steppenwolf. The takeaway is that it was Luthor who told him of the Man of Steel's demise, convincing the alien to come to a defenceless Earth to retrieve the Mother Boxes.

It's illogical to think Luthor wouldn't have a role to play in Steppenwolf's invasion, so we're fully expecting him to have a much larger part than the vague Arkham Asylum escape in Whedon's cut.

This hasn't been confirmed, but it is strongly rumored, and we'd be shocked not to see more of Jesse Eisenberg's villain.

If nothing else, we can look forward to an extended version of his scenes with Deathstroke, and perhaps even an appearance in the film's Knightmare scenes.

1. Green Lantern

In the theatrical cut of Justice League, a Green Lantern is briefly seen being cut down by Steppenwolf before his ring flies away to find another host. That was Yalan Gur, a character it's been claimed will have a more significant role in the Snyder Cut.

So, there's a Green Lantern confirmed, but what about the rumored one?

There has been chatter online for years that Snyder intended to introduce a human member of the Green Lantern Corps, and it makes zero sense that one of Sector 2814's protectors wouldn't come to Earth when Steppenwolf and Darkseid attack in the present day.

It's possible Ryan Reynolds will return as Hal Jordan, though we'd expect a lesser known actor to play him if a cameo is in the cards.

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bkmeijer2 - 3/15/2021, 4:21 AM

"The COVID-19 pandemic very nearly derailed plans for Zack Snyder's Justice League"

I thought part of the reason was the pandemic that this was getting made. Could be wrong though.

Se4M4NSt4ine - 3/15/2021, 4:41 AM

@bkmeijer - I think she means in hindsight - that certain parties involved in finishing the VFX stuff maybe weren’t prepared to risk their staff’s safety.

bkmeijer2 - 3/15/2021, 4:52 AM

@Se4M4NSt4ine - yeah that makes sense

ElJefe - 3/15/2021, 4:36 AM

This might be the first time that fans on social media have created a movement to support a director in simply putting out his vision of something instead of trying to get him to change it to fit their idea of what it should be.

I could be wrong though...

roboticJohnson - 3/15/2021, 4:44 AM

@ElJefe - A comparison that's often brought up is the richard donner cut of superman II, though it was released in 2006, when social media wasn't exactly as important as today, and I never particularly followed that so I don't know how many fans were excited to hear about it or were asking for it. But if you're talking only about social media being used to get a director's movie out there, then yes, I also can't think of anything else (though he also changed some things for the fans obviously, like the general being martian manhunter).

GwenLantern - 3/15/2021, 5:12 AM

@ElJefe - Blade Runner maybe. It was a flop in in cinemas that became a cult hit amongst fans.
There was no internet, but there were conventions and comic shops and fan magazines. Soon enough people started to hear about the theatrical version not being the director's true vision and the existence of a "Unicorn Cut".

Just like the Snyder Cut, the fans wanted to see the Unicorn version and demand started to rise. Eventually we got the Director's Cut (the first time I remember ever seeing a director's cut of anything).

There was even a "workprint" version released on DVD years later (the original 'Unicorn Cut'). Would be neat to see a workprint of the original Snyder Cut at some point too.

ElJefe - 3/15/2021, 5:41 AM

@GwenLantern - I’ve never heard of that! I’ll have to look it up. Thanks!

I like the term “unicorn cut” lol

Se4M4NSt4ine - 3/15/2021, 4:47 AM

I wasn’t really feeling any excitement for this - my momentum was just swaying happily for those who wanted the film, and I was just gonna be happy to be along for the ride and enjoy a new CBM at the very least.

However, my buddy got to watch this early last night. This is a guy that thought MOS was mediocre and BVS was shit... So when he messaged me last night and told me he had a blast watching this - I’ll be lying if I’m not a little excited now.

Could just be he went in with low expectations and came out pleasantly surprised - but it’s definitely gonna be interesting to see more reactions come out!

JoJo1982 - 3/15/2021, 4:54 AM

@Se4M4NSt4ine - I was supposed to have a screener for this movie this past Saturday but I had to work nights.
But my friend saw that night and he told me, “Joe I know you love man of Steel, just like me. Well this movie is waaay better than that movie”

My friend also didn’t like BvS, other than Batman warehouse scene.

I’m hyped for this movie

vegetaray - 3/15/2021, 5:06 AM

@Se4M4NSt4ine - Can’t trust early screeners...Just can’t...There’s a hype factor there from being given the chance to watch a film early...Makes it feel like it’s more special than it would otherwise be...

Early reviews is another thing...In general over the most recent years of releases they almost always lean extra positive...Yet when the movie actually drops it turns out to be, well, not very good...This is why I’ve conditioned myself to absolutely temper my expectations when it comes to these things...

All that being said, if this movie ends up steering closer to MoS than BvS I’ll be perfectly happy with it...

Se4M4NSt4ine - 3/15/2021, 5:44 AM

@vegetaray - I totally understand that yeah, but my buddy is a journalist who reviews movies and books for a living.

He was one of the few early screeners that slated BVS when everyone was singing and dancing long before the inevitable happened... so I do trust his judgment to a degree - plus he’s one of the most miserable bastards I’ve ever met, so if he walked away satisfied I’m optimistic 😂

Se4M4NSt4ine - 3/15/2021, 5:45 AM

@JoJo1982 - I’m just wanting to get hold of it myself and see what’s what at this rate!

DarthNihilus - 3/15/2021, 4:57 AM

Never thought i'd finally see those Omega Beams in my lifetime.
Thank you Zack

WakandanQueen - 3/15/2021, 5:04 AM

OT I just got a pretty big spoiler for FATWS and I'm not in a good mood. Avoid social media.

Blergh - 3/15/2021, 5:08 AM

I figured without COVID this might not have happened at all

JoJo1982 - 3/15/2021, 6:51 AM

@Blergh - it mostly happened bc HBOMAX needed some more content to help compete with Disney plus and Netflix

TheMapleSyrup - 3/15/2021, 5:29 AM

The VFX company I work for worked on JL. Time really is the determining factor as to whether it looks good. The money usually finds itself, but you always run out of time.

SanFranLand - 3/15/2021, 6:40 AM

Sooooo....through Hulu there’s a 7 day free trial. And I have a 12 hour flight coming up.....guess I’m watching this on my phone!

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