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NinnesMBC
NinnesMBC - 6/28/2019, 12:01 PM
Just as planned. 🧐
MyCoolYoung
MyCoolYoung - 6/28/2019, 12:02 PM
I follow Ror on Twitter and he's really lukewarm to it. I'm hoping it delivers. Homecoming is my favorite spider-man film
bkmeijer2
bkmeijer2 - 6/28/2019, 12:05 PM
I'm too lazy to look it up, but is there even an MCU movie that isn't? Anyway, this doesn't surprise me
MUTO123
MUTO123 - 6/28/2019, 12:06 PM
@MalseMarcel - Thor 2 and Incredible Hulk.
Forthas
Forthas - 6/28/2019, 12:06 PM
Booo...





to Rotten Tomatoes
OmegaDaGrodd
OmegaDaGrodd - 6/28/2019, 12:20 PM
@Forthas -

Forthas
Forthas - 6/28/2019, 12:40 PM
@OmegaDaGrodd - So it is a Star Trek dance off


lordSTALE
lordSTALE - 6/28/2019, 1:22 PM
@Forthas - Metacritic doesn't help with your Dark Phoenix crisis either so...

Forthas
Forthas - 6/28/2019, 1:33 PM
@lordSTALE - I just don't get it...

lordSTALE
lordSTALE - 6/28/2019, 1:38 PM
@Forthas - You not understanding something extremely simple doesn't shock me at all

lordSTALE
lordSTALE - 6/28/2019, 1:56 PM
@PeterCipher - Dammit I noticed that and was saving that joke for when he responded, but you beat me to it

LongMayHeReign
LongMayHeReign - 6/28/2019, 4:33 PM
@Forthas - Wait isn't the RT audience score your go to when arguing whether people like a film or not, yet now you Boo them?


Interesting!
Forthas
Forthas - 6/28/2019, 4:59 PM
@LongMayHeReign - I actually generally have no problem with the audience score BUT it is now well known that the audience score can be manipulated. I used to believe in the critic score also, but i think that studios are influencing the scores in subtle ways and now the critic scores are more often out of touch with the audience. So I am throwing the baby out with the bath water and saying...Hello Metacritic!!
LongMayHeReign
LongMayHeReign - 6/28/2019, 5:22 PM
@Forthas - How interesting that just NOW you say the audience score can be manipulated, yet when Dark Phoenix came out a mere 3 weeks ago it was 100% a factual and reliable way to document how the fans/audience truly felt about the FOX-Men franchise.

Forthas
Forthas - 6/28/2019, 5:59 PM
@LongMayHeReign -



I did say that when Dark Phoenix came out the audience score was a more accurate refection of the quality...BECAUSE THERE IS NO REASON TO BELIEVE that specific audience score was affected negatively. In fact if anything it would probably be depressed by crazy Marvel trolls who depressed the box office and cost Marvel millions. But there is no evidence for that. We know that the audience score COULD be manipulated because there are two instances where there is evidence that it could have happened not to mention that Rotten Tomatoes changed the way to vote because of a fear of manipulation.
LongMayHeReign
LongMayHeReign - 6/28/2019, 6:36 PM
@Forthas - Last time I checked RT changed the way the audience score is counted well before DP's release, so A) The only way "Marvel trolls" could depress the score was to have actually seen it first and even then they can only do it once, and B) In what instances since this change has the audience score shown evidence of possible manipulation? On multiple occasions you have expressed that the audience score is proof that the critics out of touch so now it can't be trusted on whim?

You make no sense!
Forthas
Forthas - 6/28/2019, 6:51 PM
@LongMayHeReign -


A) You obviously are not reading what I wrote...

"BECAUSE THERE IS NO REASON TO BELIEVE that specific audience score was affected negatively"

That was a reference to Dark Phoenix. I am stating that there is no reason for me to think it was affected. IF....it was it would have been lowered from where it should be.

B) I am not saying there has been an instance where the audience score has been manipulated since Rotten Tomatoes changed the way they can score a film. In fact since they changed it the disparity between the critic score and the audience score has been more pronounced. I am now using Metacritic because the CRITIC score is the issue. that score is the one that seems out of touch with audiences and I tend to agree with the audience score more often than not. Since Rotten Tomatoes uses the critic score to determine what is fresh or rotten then it is useless.
LongMayHeReign
LongMayHeReign - 6/28/2019, 7:11 PM
@Forthas - You do realize that the Metascore is in essence just the average rating on RT right?

Dark Phoenix's RT average score is 4.6/10 and it's Metascore is 43/100. How does that equate to RT critics being out of touch?
Forthas
Forthas - 6/28/2019, 7:28 PM
@LongMayHeReign - Rotten Tomatoes does not use the "average" score to determine the Fresh or Rotten rating, if they did I would be more receptive to it. The critics are out of touch because they are asked if a film should be seen or not...a binary choice...yes or no...and the "critics" in many cases (especially in the case of Dark Phoenix) DON'T give the film the benefit of the doubt and the result is a disparity between what the critics say is good and what the audience says. The critical score stressed by Metacritic is what Rotten Tomatoes should be using (its average score) and stressing to determine Fresh and Rotten ratings.
LongMayHeReign
LongMayHeReign - 6/28/2019, 7:40 PM
@Forthas - See that's not true. I have seen Mark Ellis for instance who is an approved RT critic say many times that he does not get to choose whether or not a review of his is deemed fresh or rotten if it is borderline, RT makes that call. What the criteria for how RT makes that borderline call is unknown but they make that call nonetheless.
Tonic24k
Tonic24k - 6/28/2019, 7:57 PM
@Forthas - Classic cherry picking to whatever serves your miserable outlook. Knock it off already.
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