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GhostDog
GhostDog - 4/6/2022, 12:11 PM
They should've either focused solely on the animated universe they are carving with SPideverse

OR

Created a live-action film verse for a different version of Spiderman such as Spider-Man 2099 and the characters, villains and whoever else inhabits that universe. Its Spider-Man with a different twist and it doesn't muddy what the MCU is doing and allows Sony to have a complete ownership on their own Webhead
DeadClunge
DeadClunge - 4/6/2022, 12:17 PM
@BlackBeltJones - why would they ever do that when they can just tie everything to the MCU and make ironman money. It's not good business sense to just do it on their own.
Fogs
Fogs - 4/6/2022, 12:21 PM
@BlackBeltJones - Totally! 2099 would be my go-to if I was in charge and only concerned with quality

But as @TheClungeMan said, the easy way is to milk the MCU. But this is a short-term vision only IMO.
GhostDog
GhostDog - 4/6/2022, 12:23 PM
@TheClungeMan - I understand the current status quo makes them money but this if they just wanted to ACTUALLY DO SOMETHING WORTHWHILE, divorced from how things are now because (yes it's making $$) the quality is shit.

Apply the same energy they gave to Spider-Verse.
DeadClunge
DeadClunge - 4/6/2022, 4:38 PM
@BlackBeltJones - I doubt they care, if the MCU stops making money then they'll go down that path.
DeadClunge
DeadClunge - 4/6/2022, 12:11 PM
My audience seemed to like it just fine and probably think it's an MCU movie.

I though it was entertaining just rushed. It was clear the script was as thin as Tory lanez' hair plugs 🤷🏿‍♂️
TheHumanSpider2
TheHumanSpider2 - 4/6/2022, 1:07 PM
@TheClungeMan - General audiences just know "Marvel", they have no idea what "MCU", "SMU", or "FMU" are.
DeadClunge
DeadClunge - 4/6/2022, 4:39 PM
@TheHumanSpider2 - yep, and now with the multiverse cameos it pretty much solidifies what they thought.
MrDandy
MrDandy - 4/6/2022, 12:13 PM
1. Don’t.

Let this sh*t die. Stick to video games, Marvel Studios making your movies or Lord and Miller producing them.
Ha1frican
Ha1frican - 4/6/2022, 12:17 PM
Just give it all to Fiege and let him print you money.
MovieMonster
MovieMonster - 4/6/2022, 1:03 PM
The villain spin-off universe was a stupid idea to begin with and I’m sure Feige doesn’t want these characters to cross over into the MCU. Sony should just let Marvel Studios make the live-action films and have Lord and Miller run the animated Spider-verse. If Kraven or Madame Web flop, I can see them putting this universe to rest.
TheHumanSpider2
TheHumanSpider2 - 4/6/2022, 1:06 PM
Avi Arad IS Spiderman, and that comment is disrespecting all he has done for the Marvel brand in movies (including giving a chance at producing to the guy who walked Dick Donner's dog, and was just serving coffee on the X-Men set).
On the other hand, Venom 1 and Venom 2 were massive hits, which means he still "has it".
Having said that, he is too old, and the message at the end of NWH felt like he was retiring, and I think is about time he passes the torch to Amy Pascal, someone who actually knows what she is doing (Spiderverse was 100% hers).

Anyway, how to save the SMU? simple, take Spiderman out of the MCU, and have him lead the freaking shared universe.
If you dont want to lose the "MCU boost" and/or dont have faith in the character carrying the movies on his own, then just leave him in the MCU, and discard the SMU idea, and just keep making Venom movies as long as Tom Hardy is willing to make them.

You CANT have a "Spiderman Cinematic Universe" without SPIDERMAN.

KindredMac
KindredMac - 4/6/2022, 1:12 PM
@TheHumanSpider2 - Are you really Amy Pascal in real life?
"Avi Arad IS Spiderman" and "...passes the torch to Amy Pascal, someone who actually knows what she is doing"?!?!?!?!
That has to be two of the dumbest things I have ever heard anyone say about Sony's Marvel IP's...

It has been proven time and time again that Kevin Feige IS MARVEL AND gets it. Time for Sony to sell the rights back or just be bought out on a corporate level by the Mouse. I'm not a fan of Disney owning everything under the sun but you have to admit that they have had a great run with Marvel.... Star Wars not so much, but Marvel yes.
TheHumanSpider2
TheHumanSpider2 - 4/6/2022, 1:24 PM
@KindredMac - NWH? her idea, $2B. Spiderverse? her idea, produced by her own company, Oscar for BEST PICTURE.

Sure, she is clueless about the character.
cjspade
cjspade - 4/6/2022, 5:03 PM
@TheHumanSpider2 - Now this is funny
leethario
leethario - 4/6/2022, 1:52 PM
Morbius was bad, but not as bad as I was expecting, still better than venom 2 though.
SaintCrow
SaintCrow - 4/6/2022, 2:47 PM
I agree with all of them, especially with #5. It's time to shake it up and get a new fresh mindset in there. Sony always comes close, then they have the idea 'we got this' and fumble.
bkmeijer1
bkmeijer1 - 4/6/2022, 4:55 PM
My take is they should just get a writer/director and give him or her full control. Bet there is someone out there who genuinely wants to make a movie about certain villains.
TheJester187
TheJester187 - 4/6/2022, 10:00 PM
Arad has made his fortune off Spider-Man no way he gives up his power or position. I don’t agree with their decisions on things. But that’s the world we live in.
SheepishOne
SheepishOne - 4/6/2022, 10:36 PM
I'm wasting my breath here, but...here's what I'd do:

Open the next Sony-verse movie with a flashback to No Way Home. Amidst the chaos of the final fight, we are taken to Toomes' prison cell. Scorpion approaches from the outside. He's free. Scorpion states "Peter Parker is Spider-Man" and watches for Toomes' reaction. Toomes turns away and walks back to his window. Scorpion gets louder: "Peter PARKER is Spider-Man. And your daughter's telling the magazines that they used to date. Two years ago. Right when you got caught."

This gets Toomes' attention. "Why don't you go ahead and say what's on your mind."

Scorpion (smiling): "Tell me you knew."

Toomes scoffs.

Scorpion: "Tell me you knew who he was...and did nothing."

Toomes (after a pause): "Yea. I knew."

Scorpion spits at Toomes, and Toomes walks back to his window. The shattering multiverse is seen in the sky. We hear Scorpion running off shouting "he knew! He knew allllllll along!"

Toomes (to himself, looking at the sky): "Of course I knew. I know everything."

He sees the sky closing up, and he mutters to himself more. "Peter Parker is Spider-Man. Peter Parker. Now everyone knows. Not my fault."

And then finally, as the sky seems to be fixed, Toomes says "be careful out there, Peter." And then, we hear people outside his cell questioning what he's doing there. We roll right into Toomes getting pulled into the Sony-verse, but we flesh it out a bit.

***

Now, we reveal that the Sony-verse is the Amazing Spider-Man universe (aka the universe in which Spider-Man stopped pulling his punches). With the Amazing Spider-Man returning to this universe, Toomes sets out on a mission to find him, as he feels Peter Parker is the connective tissue back into the MCU. But, as he hears that this Spider-Man is a "murderer", Toomes decides to build a team to take him on. This is the Sony-verse sinister six. Vulture, Morbius, Venom, Kraven (sigh), Electro (he was never totally "fixed") and an improved Rhino.

And of course Madame Web is the multiversal force that's able to pull Tobey and Tom into the Amazing universe for a cameo at the end of their sinister six film.
Humperdoo
Humperdoo - 4/6/2022, 11:26 PM
I enjoyed Morbius. After reading all the negative stuff about the movie I expected a train wreck. I liked it a lot better than the Venom movies.
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