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ModHaterSLADE
ModHaterSLADE - 4/25/2024, 12:47 PM
I mean I'd be fine with Gargan being Venom because it actually gives him something to do since he appeared years ago.
Scarilian
Scarilian - 4/25/2024, 2:06 PM
@ModHaterSLADE -
Yeah, MCU's Venom should be Gargan. Start him off as Scorpion having recovered and modified Doc Ock's tentacle with the help of Tinkerer.

It allows a natural continuation from the post-credit of Gargan trying to find Peter's identity and set-up his team to take down Spider-man.

Peter would be pissed that out of everyone to forget about him, Scorpion still remembers their interactions (as Scorpion's history and grudge with him is unrelated to his identity being revealed)
ModHaterSLADE
ModHaterSLADE - 4/25/2024, 2:53 PM
@Scarilian - Yeah, I'd be cool with that because Gargan desperate to find Spidey's identity just seems like it was meant to be picked up for a future project with him being a possible antagonist.
Malatrova15
Malatrova15 - 4/25/2024, 12:51 PM
I mean be fine with Pablo Lyle being Uncle Ben vecayse achually giives 7875gk
IAmAHoot
IAmAHoot - 4/25/2024, 12:52 PM
How about because they teased it?
PC04
PC04 - 4/25/2024, 12:56 PM
Spider Slayer Program + Mac Gargan (Scorpion) & JJJ story line I think needs to be up next. Venom should come in to play at some point. Alan Ritchson would make a great Eddie Brock or as ModHaterSLADE suggested, just have Gargan be Venom. Gargan can have his Scorpion costume. He get's trashed by Spidey. Get's an upgraded suit courtesy of the "Spider Slayer" program. At some point the venom symbiote can even bond with him making that crazy Scorpion-Venom combo even.
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 4/25/2024, 1:01 PM
@PC04 - I like the idea of even Gargan just going into being Venom in this version rather then Scorpion

Michael Mando has the capability to do well in that role.

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PC04
PC04 - 4/25/2024, 1:05 PM
@TheVisionary25 - Yes he would be great given the opportunity to flesh out the character. I liked in the 90s Spider-man show Gargan was pissed off that he was trapped in the Scorpion suit. It made him somewhat sympathetic and multi-dimensional. Like, yeah he's a convict and a bad dude, but the fact he's tortured by his inability to escape his suit causes him anguish is a really good angle to play up.
bkmeijer1
bkmeijer1 - 4/27/2024, 11:02 AM
@PC04 - I think having Gargan get his Scorpion costume from Smythe (who is on Kingpin's payroll) could already happen in Spider-Man 4. No symbiote required.

I do like the idea of maybe Smythe already using the symbiote to kinda glue the Scorpion suit to Mac Gargan, with SM4 ending with the symbiote buggering off before Spider-Man gets it in Secret Wars.
Nomis929
Nomis929 - 4/25/2024, 1:02 PM
We can comment on a "...Reasons Why MCU should..." thread now?
MCUKnight11
MCUKnight11 - 4/25/2024, 1:07 PM
Despite recent comments about regurgitation, Alan Ritchson is still my top choice for Eddie Brock. If not, I won't be surprised if they took notes from the games and have Harry as the host.
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Izaizaiza
Izaizaiza - 4/25/2024, 1:14 PM
@MCUKnight11 - Ritchson as venom is a fantastic idea! 👍🏻
PC04
PC04 - 4/25/2024, 2:20 PM
@MCUKnight11 - In full agreement. Been saying that for a while now. He would've made a great Flash Thompson as well to later become Agent Venom, but maybe we'll never see that.
bkmeijer1
bkmeijer1 - 4/27/2024, 10:57 AM
@MCUKnight11 - having Harry as the host does have my preference, since it's only really been done in the game and the Ultimate Spider-Man show.

We've seen Scorpion/Venom a few times already, and the same goes for Harry/Goblin and Eddie/Venom. The latter two have been in two seperate movies even.
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 4/25/2024, 1:35 PM
Honestly , the setup that the end of NWH provided would be a nice gateway for Peter to get the Symbiote…

He’s isolated from everyone and could be dealing with grief still due to Aunt May’s death aswell as anger & loneliness which could give the Symbiote all the ammunition to latch onto him.

It would just have to go from Mexico to NY but I’m sure they could come up with some way to do that.

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ChrisRed
ChrisRed - 4/25/2024, 1:45 PM
SM4 - Invasion of the Spider-Slayers (Smythe, Scorpion and Black Cat)

SM5 - Introduction of the black suit (Hobgoblin, Gwen and the Osborns)

SM6 - Gargan becomes Venom (Symbiote invasion)
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 4/25/2024, 2:20 PM
@ChrisRed - would be interesting to do Hobgoblin before Green in the MCU (I guess we already got him with Dafoe).

Warren Kole for Hobgoblin

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bkmeijer1
bkmeijer1 - 4/27/2024, 11:09 AM
@ChrisRed - I kinda wanna see something similar, but without the Symbiote invasion. I rather see Sinister Six as Spider-Man's endgame:

SM4 - Spider-Man & Daredevil vs Scorpion (with a Smyther suit), Black Cat and Kingpin.

Secret Wars - Spider-Man gets the symbiote and starts using it

SM5 - Spider-Man ditches the symbiote, which moves onto Harry

SM6 - Spider-Man versus a Sinister Six comprised of Doc Ock, Vulture, Mysterio, Scorpion (with the symbiote?), Shocker and Hobgoblin (Ned?).

SM4 could introduce Harry and SM5 Miles, who gets his powers in SM6.
MyCoolYoung
MyCoolYoung - 4/25/2024, 2:20 PM
I hope he doesn’t get the suit until the second movie in the trilogy. I’d like to see him be in some grounded fights first then get a power make over
bkmeijer1
bkmeijer1 - 4/27/2024, 11:12 AM
@MyCoolYoung - I agree. I wouldn't mind it either if he gets the symbiote in Secret Wars, so that when SM5 rolls around he's already been using it for a while
marvel72
marvel72 - 4/25/2024, 2:42 PM
They have already teased it, So after Sony is done with Venom for the time being,Disney Marvel can slowly build to Venom.
S8R8M
S8R8M - 4/25/2024, 2:42 PM
TH SP4 should start the new trilogy with him saying, you know what? Lets give the people what they want and go with Miles!
BlackStar25
BlackStar25 - 4/25/2024, 2:51 PM
We dont need 6 reasons...Its just time!
JFerguson
JFerguson - 4/25/2024, 3:05 PM
Hope he gets the symbiote in secret wars. A violent Spidey during an Avengers level event is something to fear
bkmeijer1
bkmeijer1 - 4/27/2024, 11:00 AM
I don't think the symbiotes as overarching narrative is really necessary, I rather see Spider-Man's endgame be against the Sinister Six (which I guess could include Venom).

For Venom specifically though, I hope Spider-Man gets the symbiote in Secret Wars so that he spends some time with it before it becomes the focus in SM5. They could do Gargan as Scorpion in SM4 already as Kingpin's muscle, with a suit that's courtesy of Smythe and JJJ.

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