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Starjammer - 11/24/2011, 11:41 AM
To me, the only death done legitimately was Captain America, since it lasted 5 years and was actually fully planned as a big event that affected the MARVEL universe in a big way.
ebrandon187 - 11/24/2011, 11:53 AM
I hate to talk poorly about my favorite hero. But the death and resection of superman cheapened what should have been a major loss in the comic community. Now when another popular character is killed off we all just sit back and wait for their inevitable return. I also totally agree with Starjammer that Captain Americas death was handled the best.
Zoolitron - 11/24/2011, 11:53 AM
To me, the only death done legitimately was The Flash, since it lasted several years and was actually fully planned as a big event that affected the DC universe in a big way. ^^
SoulAllFlush - 11/24/2011, 11:56 AM
I voted no

But I really must add that so far the Ultimate Marvel line has been brilliant for comic book deaths. It's killed off massive characters with no signs of them returning. Ultimatum may have been a poor cross over story, but the characters it killed off have stayed dead.

Also, props to DC - Barry Allen was dead for about 25 years. They allowed their universe to grow and progress.
AC1 - 11/24/2011, 11:57 AM
i voted no, but really it depends on the situation.
TrueRedBlue - 11/24/2011, 12:24 PM
It depends... It really sucked when Ultimate Spider-Man died. I was connected with him and his story for literally a decade when it came out. But for the most part, it's been done too much.
CaptainEpic - 11/24/2011, 12:26 PM
Starjammer is completely correct. Captain America is my hero and his death was a huge moment in comicbook life and fan's lives. It was a great story and was handled well. Props to you starjammer.
Lizardking310 - 11/24/2011, 12:55 PM
marvel is the biggest culprit in the meaning less deaths and resurrection
paptschik - 11/24/2011, 12:59 PM
Deaths and returns are awesome if well done. But don't hurry through it, enjoy the status quo shift for a bit and than make the return AS AWESOME AS POSSIBLE.
Like Cap. Or Batman. Those worked really well.
I like characters returning from the dead. But damn it, don't kill someone to have them back after a year. How aboutk illing someone and resurrecting some of the OTHER characters out there, still dead.
Fastestmanalive - 11/24/2011, 1:08 PM
The best death was Barry Allen's cuz it was well done and had a huge impact, but most of all it wasent just some marketing gimmick but was done truly to kill him for real and pass on the torch to a new generation.

He should still be dead, the only reason he's back is cuz Johns loves him, but I think he shouldeve stayed dead.

His death is the only one that I could think of that you could truly say was supposed to be for real and not for a sales gimmick.

But in general I voted yes, death in comics is so cheap and such a joke these days, I think it was Lex Luthor who put it best "death is but a temporary setback for Lex Luthor." lol
marvel72 - 11/24/2011, 1:16 PM
none of us would want to see any of our favorite characters stay dead for good,just imagine killing off spider-man,hulk,wolverine,thor,batman,superman,flash or the green lantern & they never returned.

sales are bad enough now what would they be like if our beloved characters stayed dead.

no comic company would take that risk.
epitome - 11/24/2011, 1:17 PM
Hal Jordan's death was originally meant to be permanent too, I believe. I don't think it was done well, but at least their intentions were 'pure' with that one. It wasn't until Kyle Rainer's run as GL was waning that they decided to bring him back, and GL: Rebirth was awesome in my opinion. But one of the reasons I got bored with comics lately is because nothing means anything any more. You have crisis after crisis, characters die, and then wow! they come back. It makes everything they did previously have little to no meaning. What's sacrifice without REAL sacrifice?
Moonwalker1991 - 11/24/2011, 1:41 PM
@Marvel72: I agree,though Marvel already took that chance. The first was in Ultimatum when pretty much the entire Marvel Universe was destroyed by either that flood in NY or at the hands of Magneto. Thor. Stark. X-men. FF. Everyone save for the Avengers, who found Parker under a pile of rubble, were killed off. The second time was The Death Of Spider-man. While Parker has come back from death in the past, mostly in the Classic comics, this time it's for real and to make matters worse he's been replaced by a 13 year old kid, Miles Morales. Out of respect for Spiderman, I don't think it was a smart move to kill Peter and replace him with Morales. He has an interesting story but it would be better if he was just a totally different hero, rather than a wannabe Spiderman. I think Peter is gone for good this time. Sadly.
marvel72 - 11/24/2011, 1:58 PM
@ moonwalker1991

its pretty handy having a second universe where you can take chances like that because it doesn't effect the main 616 universe.

i don't read the ultimate universe,i don't really like how they change characters i.e green goblin the size of the hulk,morales as spidey & wasn't gwen stacy carnage once in a storyline.
Wiredwizard - 11/24/2011, 1:59 PM
No, death doesn't mean jack in comics anymore, especially with Marvel. Take Moon Knight for example - how many time have they killed him, and when they think they can make money on him again, they just bring him back again and again and again etc. etc. etc.. It's become a bit ridiculous.
Odin - 11/24/2011, 2:00 PM
There is only one permanent death in MARVEL: (uncle)Ben Parker.
marvel72 - 11/24/2011, 2:24 PM
@ odin

if uncle ben had super powers he'd be back.
Morningstar - 11/24/2011, 2:57 PM
I think it depends on the death really and there's plenty of characters who have lengthy deaths that are significant to the ongoing plot of the comic. The death of Nightcrawler in particular seemed significant to me and even if and possibly when he comes back his death will still have had meaning in relation to the x comics
Saintsinnister - 11/24/2011, 3:03 PM
It's complex, and involves a timeline as well as a story. I will use Wolverine and Joker as examples. Joker has died a hundred times. Each one is epic in its own way. But Wolverine has only died once. It was in the far future and his brother kills him. But to just kill somebody off and have some lame resurection come just around the corner. Just making a mockery and doing something to make another dollar.
EditNinja - 11/24/2011, 3:34 PM
Death in Comics = Hiatus
BuckyCap - 11/24/2011, 4:43 PM
Captain America's death was done very well, but it is too bad they didn't allow the Universe to progress enough so that bringing Steve back would mean something. Steve Roger's return was one of the cheapest, pointless, boring and stupid stories I have ever read. It cheapened Steve's death to the point of being completely meaningless.

"He, like, didn't actually die. He was shot with a, uhhhh special gun. Yeah. So now he like is just reliving his memories."
BuckyCap - 11/24/2011, 4:44 PM
Hope everyone is enjoying Turkey Day, btw.
gaikinger - 11/24/2011, 4:51 PM
the jack oh hearts is still dead...go figure
gaikinger - 11/24/2011, 4:54 PM
happy hogan...still dead
gaikinger - 11/24/2011, 4:55 PM
namora...still dead
ThatFan - 11/24/2011, 5:18 PM
you guys forgot to say Superman.
lanternstorm - 11/24/2011, 5:24 PM
Elongated man has stayed dead, Sue Dibney, Uncle Ben, Blue Beetle, Henshaw's wife, Abin Sur (even though they've brought him back in time travel and Blackest Night), The (original) Question, Ben Reilly (even though he's present in the MC2 line) etc. Even though the Death of Superman did cheapen comic book deaths, they're still these spectacular events that are great and could quite possibly stick... And with the new 52 in DC there is still a possibility of rebuilding the status quo when it comes to deaths in comics.
GLprime2814 - 11/24/2011, 7:43 PM
When the one person in comics history who was never supposed to come back eventually did then things changed, I'm looking at you Bucky.
GLprime2814 - 11/24/2011, 7:49 PM
I dare any comic company kill off a A list hero and stay dead for 10years, then I might feel it has purpose.
When superman died I actually cried I was a little boy then, but even something when colossus died I was sad to because then heroes would die it was like, oh man I hope he comes back. Now I'm like oh he's gonna be back in a month or 2.
FlashFacts - 11/24/2011, 8:35 PM

1. Barry Allen
2. Captain America
3. Jason Todd-no one saw it coming !
Shadowelfz - 11/24/2011, 8:57 PM
Please send a copy of this poll to the editors at Marvel and DC. Thank you.
jaycr - 11/24/2011, 9:13 PM
The only thing that can kill a comic book character is low sales.
AGENTJAY1130 - 11/24/2011, 10:56 PM
topcat10 - 11/25/2011, 2:51 AM
Just to see how many deaths and more importantly returns there have been in comics check out the Wikipedia list here:
blk422 - 11/25/2011, 6:40 AM
The deaths of Barry Allen/Flash, Supergirl, Ferro Lad for DC. Jean Grey, Captain America, Bucky and the first Thunderbird and Banshee/X-men truly got it's affect of shock and sadness but I was glad that they brought back Barry and Supergirl Captain America I knew he as coming back along with Superman,Batman and now Johnny Storm. I want them to bring Jean Grey back. But some characters once killed off should stay dead. period.
Moonwalker1991 - 11/25/2011, 7:03 AM
@Marvel72: Yes, she was. Ultimate is pretty cool, a fresh take on a young Spiderman, though nothing can beat the classics. Nothing.
Moonwalker1991 - 11/25/2011, 7:05 AM
@GL: Yes, good point. Well said.
dezdigi - 11/25/2011, 8:38 AM
Is everybody forgetting about the villains? How many times do they die and come back?
Sometimes, a return from death works. Most of the time, it doesn't. All depends on the story, I guess.
Ha1frican - 11/25/2011, 8:55 AM
after superman it lost all its weight
MaliciousHero - 11/25/2011, 9:59 AM
Some deaths and returns are done well, Captain America, Batman, and Jason Todd. Some, not so well, Hal Jordan (despite how much I am glad he is alive again), Punisher, and it looks as if we can add The Human Torch to this list.

But then there are characters that are dead, that should, honestly, stay dead. Someone already mentioned Uncle Ben and Qwen Stacey. Don't forget to add Jean Grey to that list.
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