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FireandBlood
FireandBlood - 6/22/2023, 12:08 PM
Top two were the best, so makes sense
AllsGood
AllsGood - 6/22/2023, 12:14 PM
Didn't WB/DC just get busted for paying for positive reviews in China? My gut tells me they did the same in America. We know they paid Tom Cruise for his review.
ThorArms
ThorArms - 6/22/2023, 12:16 PM
Batman V. Superman wasn't good, but it definitely wasn't THAT bad. WW1984 and JL were worse
FireandBlood
FireandBlood - 6/22/2023, 12:20 PM
Still want that Green Arrow Supermax movie. Could be John Wick meets Escape from NY. Instead we’re getting The Authority, a Justice League pastiche. I hate being a DC fan.
WakandaTech
WakandaTech - 6/22/2023, 12:25 PM
Is the DCEU the biggest franchise failure of all time

I say yes

It destroyed the hype for Iconic DC characters
It lost billions of dollars
It was destroyed financially and by Marvel
FireandBlood
FireandBlood - 6/22/2023, 12:44 PM
@WakandaTech - Without a doubt. Even looking past all the money left on the table, 6 tentpoles bombing in a row for has gotta be a record
WakandanQueen
WakandanQueen - 6/22/2023, 12:26 PM
Not reading this list. This is how I rank those I've seen:
The Suicide Squad
Wonder Woman
Shazam!
Aquaman
Birds of Prey
Man of Steel
Wonder Woman 1984
Batman v Superman
Suicide Squad
CLTMAN29
CLTMAN29 - 6/22/2023, 12:28 PM
You know what I've never seen any article about Wonder Woman mention? And why is completely falls flat and isn't worth the 93%? It's that the entire concept of the film is that 'sometimes people are just bad, there isn't a reason, there's nothing you can just punch in the face, we're just shitty - oh wait until THERE is something you can punch in the face that's responsible for all the evil in human kind.' So dumb
TyrantBossMedia
TyrantBossMedia - 6/23/2023, 3:13 AM
@CLTMAN29 - They would never ever give Wonder Woman a bad review after all of the "first female comic book movie" Brouhaha, even though Supergirl was the first back in 1984.

If they dared criticize Wonder Woman they would be branded a sexist.
n1ghtw1ng2832
n1ghtw1ng2832 - 6/22/2023, 12:38 PM
And there Wilding goes again posting crap nobody asked for.
MyCoolYoung
MyCoolYoung - 6/22/2023, 12:38 PM
Looking at this list and man has DC had some critical bombs. I'll stand on this though josstice league and the first suicide squad are my guilty pleasures.

Wonder woman was good but they have no knockouts. I'll never watch the snydercut again. The flash has a case to be DC's best movie
IcePyke
IcePyke - 6/22/2023, 1:00 PM
OptimusCrime
OptimusCrime - 6/22/2023, 1:25 PM
Justice League at 9%
MrDandy
MrDandy - 6/22/2023, 1:30 PM
Looking at this franchise as a whole really puts it into perspective how rough this all is.

I think the only ones I really like are Wonder Woman, The Suicide Squad, and SHAZAM.

The rest are mixed or outright duds imo
ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 6/22/2023, 3:34 PM
@MrDandy - I can't believe it took them so long to reboot.

This is where successful films like Aquaman can be a double-edged sword.
Blergh
Blergh - 6/22/2023, 1:45 PM
1. Shazam (7/10)
2. Aquaman (6/10)
3. Man of Steel (5/10)
4. Wonder Woman (5/10)
5. The Suicide Squad (4/10)
6. The Flash (4/10)
7. Shazam 2 (4/10)
8. Black Adam (3/10)
9. Wonder Woman 84 (3/10)
10. Birds of Prey (3/10)
12. Suicide Squad (both Cuts; 3/10)
13. Justice League (both Cuts; 2/10)
14. Batman v Superman (both Cuts; 2/10)
ossie85
ossie85 - 6/22/2023, 2:24 PM
If two things are tied for 2nd, the next is 4th, not 3rd. Sorry, just a pet hate!

You can't say your the 2nd best in the world if two people beat you but tied for first.....
Forthas
Forthas - 6/22/2023, 3:14 PM
I have to say..the critic reviews of the DCEU are way off. In a rare defense of Warner Brothers (The world must be ending) the early films in the DCEU were measured against Marvel. That is when quippy dialogue and comedy was all the rage. Now that the new car smell has worn off the comedy has not held up well. The films that took the subject matter seriously are to me the best ones with Man of Steel not just the best DCEU film but one of the best CBMs made. I rank it #1 against other DCEU films and 4th among ALL DC films...yes even above the Donner Superman. It is a film that was way ahead of its time and all of the people crying about how it is not their Superman and longing for red underwear and clumsy Clark Kent are living in a dying past that has already failed with Superman Returns and will fail again with similar efforts.
TheWalkingCuban
TheWalkingCuban - 6/22/2023, 3:20 PM
@Forthas - thanks for the history rewrite, it was funny because it was funny. It stopped being funny because it stopped being funny. And then to say that that non-fact makes the DCEU better, I mean, you might as well say the one should have tanked and not the other. That’s preposterous. “New car smell” what the DCEU never had that? It did. It was simply a wrecked car, and they kept piling up, with a handful swerving out of the way of the pile-up.

Anyway, I respect your opinion. So don’t take any of this personally. I simply disagree.
Baf
Baf - 6/22/2023, 4:41 PM
@TheWalkingCuban - @TheWalkingCuban - I agree with @Forthas- on this one. Not necessarily about MOS being the best ever, but he makes a good argument for those "taking the subject matter seriously". MOS does that well. I would even dare to say (since the world is ending) Marvel wins at the box office (and I get that's what counts) but DC is much more re-watchable. Once the initial hype wears down, Marvels second viewings are very bland. On the other hand, I find DC re-watches way more interesting. They at least show the artistic perspective of the directors that made them. Not so cookie cutter (with exception of course). I do agree with you that the DC "New car smell" was put in a lemon. But I do think the DC/Warner movies are aging better...respectfully.
Forthas
Forthas - 6/22/2023, 5:04 PM
@Baf -
@TheWalkingCuban

I think if you look historically, the first Keaton Batman film and the first Reeve Superman film happen to be the most serious of their respective series. They are also the most fondly remembered. As both franchises descended into ever more camp, the audience lost interest. In a sense history is repeating itself.
TheWalkingCuban
TheWalkingCuban - 6/22/2023, 6:07 PM
@Forthas - yes but the scale does allow the MCU some leeway. 700’s, 800’s, and 900’s is respectable non RDJ or Avengers box office. But look man. I’m talking consensus here: I don’t hear bout nobody rewatching dceu stuff, same as they don’t talk about upcoming stuff. Yes the excitement has lessened for the MCU: it was only in spurts for the DCEU. I like BVS, I mos and BvS but to say either one is as rewatchable as avengers, or IW, or EG, or civil war or iron man or black Panther or guardians or homecoming or Ragnarok, etc, for the consensus of folks, no. That’s not evident.
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