THE FLASH Is Now Playing At Under 800 Theaters In The U.S.; Will Likely End Up Biggest Flop In WB's History

@Doomsday8888 -

@Dingus - Theyve all vanished. Now it's just a few hold outs. I'm sure Tyrant will come in here and call someone a shill for this article, maybe even tag nate to feel important. Few others. Otherwise they've all gone bye bye

@UniqNo - This has nothing to do with the Gunn reboot, as DC movies have been failing at the box office since 2019, with the exception of solo batman projects. The audience gave up on DC years before Gunn came along.

@Th3Batman - don't get me wrong though, I'm all for the change and am interest in see what Gunn and Safran bring, but they really undercut all the box office potential of the movies yet to be released. His latest tweets seem to also be doodling BB's chances.

@Th3Batman - "Both made around $170 million, while other movies released during the same period, such as Eternals, managed to make triple that."

Let me add some 'facts' here.

You realise that both Ww84 and TSS were both released simultaneously on HBOMax (hd piracy copies for other parts of the world). So those movies didnt stand a chance. The only one I think that had a marginal success was Godzilla vs Kong (mainly down to business in the east that still had theatres open) and Dune. They broke about even which is why we're getting sequels.

TSS and Gunn's Peacemaker were recieved really well by critics which played a big part in him getting the job.

Eternals went to cinemas unlike Disney' live action Mulan which also did terrible if youre looking to compare.

Harley Quinn released at the start of the pandemic before lockdowns were made official, COVID was high in the news my guy.

Yeah Black Adam didn't make as much as they'd hoped but its amount was just shy of what the 1st Shazam made. The company was already in a state of flux but people showed up in a sense.

The fact that Shazam 2 made less than 200mil worldwide shows that because of the state DC and Warner were in (as you said the audiences were getting tired) COMBINED WITH Gunn making their plans and slate known while still not outright saying these films that were yet to be released are canon cut them at the knees.. He just further muddied the waters from with all the tweeting, firing all those folks while keeping some (apparantly) and then the whole slate announcement. Before these movies came out. I bet if they had announced that flash or shazam were to appear in those newly announced ones, people may have shown up more.

To be fair i guess Gunn needed to respond to the article that leaked all the info around the time that Cavill and Jenkins got shown the door but as a business, they undercut what chances they had with their box office. They have the whole of 2024 to start that hype after all the other stuff had their chance this year.

Again im up for a reboot, but as for running a business..... well i suppose thats why Safran has remained quiet, whilst Gunn can take charge of the creativity, i just think he shoild have been quieter about it.

@Nolanite - Again, i dont doubt they'll correct the ship, all im saying is that how publicly he's doing it is having an effect on the films intakes that have released and are still to be released this year.

Even if WW84 turned people off, it was one of the most pirated movies that year due to how they released it. If that was released outside of the pandemic and theatres only, you know that would habe made ALOT more. Same with TSS, Which also got dealt a shitty hand as it was released there and was also R rated, so of course its box office intake got affected.

You can look at the Rock's involvment in 2 ways, 1, the way you described or 2, where he was trying to put himself in focus but also tried and and managed to pull off bringing back Cavill after a long absense where Superman wasn't prioritised. Cavill will unfortunately be forever remebered as another missed opportunity just like Routh as they never got a proper chance to be in focus after Superman Returns or MoS.

It was the WB producers who told him to announce his return only for Gunn and Safran to veto that as the newly appointed co chairs. Not their fault, but Rock and Co at least were trying steer the ship when there was no clear leadership. Black Adam still made more than Flash and pre dated Gunn's appointment, but after and after all the public statements from him the movies all overwhelmingly underperformed. You cant say thats just coincidental.. as reallt they should be doing better no?