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Batmangina
Batmangina - 7/19/2023, 11:01 AM
THIS is the listicle content WE NEED.


Thank you, Josh


PS: More The Marvels content pls.
SATW42
SATW42 - 7/19/2023, 11:02 AM
Just here for the show
BlackStar25
BlackStar25 - 7/19/2023, 11:04 AM
"Worst"

....I thought all these cameos were cool.

ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 7/19/2023, 11:30 AM
@BlackStar25 - In theory mayhaps.
whynot
whynot - 7/19/2023, 1:05 PM
@BlackStar25 - I agree
The1st
The1st - 7/19/2023, 3:40 PM
@BlackStar25 - Me too, I saw it yesterday.



Liked the film overall, but no payoff as that universe is dead. The vfx was blown out of proportion imo, but I'm easy I guess. Also, for those that say Kal is superior to Kara clearly never read comics or FP in particular. It was clear she was solar deprived since being on Earth and it showed in the fight against Zod. All Bats were also great imo.

Can't believe they almost made a movie with Cage's Supes fighting a spider though lol.
BlackStar25
BlackStar25 - 7/19/2023, 4:21 PM
@The1st - Same. I thought the film was very enjoyable. Wish they kept whatever ending they had tho because of the "No payoff" point still applied either way. I was fine with the VFX but seeing as to how many people cried about it I wish the director decided to go more stylistic with that take to clearly convey what he was trying to depict. 1000% agree with the Kara point. Thats how I saw it. I personally believe Kara is a better fighter than Kal in this DCEU because of their own circumstances but being bathed in the sun for like 30+ years compared to 4 or so hours...it just made sense so I was glad the lost in a sense. And bro....Cage as Superman sounds like a crazy ridiculous fever dream but man!....That scene had me curious. That shit looked awesome.
TheNewYorker
TheNewYorker - 7/19/2023, 5:17 PM
@BlackStar25 - I agree
BringFFtoMCU
BringFFtoMCU - 7/19/2023, 11:05 AM
Normally I'm the first one to bash on the DCEU and all of its terribleness; however it seems like this site is beating a dead horse. Don't get me wrong...I'm happy the horse is dead. But, damn...move on.
Origame
Origame - 7/19/2023, 11:16 AM
@BringFFtoMCU - exactly.
GhostDog
GhostDog - 7/19/2023, 11:05 AM
Reeves should be number 1 given his history
ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 7/19/2023, 11:31 AM
@GhostDog - Yeah. Swap Reeve and Slater for Reeves and this list is more accurate.
Th3Batman
Th3Batman - 7/19/2023, 11:07 AM
I like how the Flash gets the short end of the stick in nearly every aspect in his own movie. George Clooney is being talked about more than him, and he only got a minute or so of screen time.
MarioT1000
MarioT1000 - 7/19/2023, 11:11 AM
I read pretty sure it was here that the bad CGI was on purpose. What I think is that once they saw how bad it was they leaned into it. Hence not having a live Nicolas Cage, and making him CGI, since the others were only able to be brought in by CGI. In a weird way, it made it so multiverses have a distinct look/feel.

Now this doesn’t explain those god awful falling babies 😂
MarioT1000
MarioT1000 - 7/19/2023, 11:12 AM
@MarioT1000 - and obviously leaning into bad CGI was a terrible decision..
The1st
The1st - 7/19/2023, 3:42 PM
@MarioT1000 - Yeah, the babies were...interesting, but it's not like the MCU has been knocking it out of the park lately either. Gaming, writing, and vfx industries all need a 21st century labor overhaul, but none have committed to it on the worker's end for the most part. They may as well be in sweatshops.
TheHumanSpider2
TheHumanSpider2 - 7/19/2023, 11:12 AM
While Christopher looking like a PS2 character is insulting to both him and his legacy, I think the situation with George is worse, not only he killed himself over Superman, not only did the movie came out on his suicide "anniversary", but he has not living relatives, nobody gave permission to use his likeness.

I think that is the most disgusting cameo, the Chris one is the most insulting cameo, and the Cage one is the most absurd cameo, I legit dont understand the reasoning behind putting a cameo about a piece of trivia only a handful of nerds know about, like, imagine NWH having a random CGi Tom Cruise appear at some point because he was going to play Iron Man 20 years ago...what's worse, this cameo sounds like the kind of thing Gunn would came up with.

PS: people already noticed how Adam West's Batman has no ears.
TheHumanSpider2
TheHumanSpider2 - 7/19/2023, 11:17 AM
@TheHumanSpider2 - Also, Nic Cage looks like PS2 CGi, Muschetti wish that looked like PS3, and regarding George Reeves, who made Hollywooland? using footage of the movie with Affleck playing would've been A LOT better.
Th3Batman
Th3Batman - 7/19/2023, 11:21 AM
@TheHumanSpider2 - "While Christopher looking like a PS2 character is insulting to both him and his legacy..."

Superman III, and especially IV, did way more damage to his legacy than this 10 second cameo ever could. The original Superman II didn't do him any favors either.
TheHumanSpider2
TheHumanSpider2 - 7/19/2023, 1:36 PM
@Th3Batman - This is worse. Much, much, worse.
JFerguson
JFerguson - 7/19/2023, 11:13 AM
Moriakum
Moriakum - 7/19/2023, 11:17 AM
“Like it’s one of the best superhero movies I’ve ever seen. [Director] Andy Muschietti did an amazing job.”
https://www.motionpictures.org/2023/02/james-gunn-says-the-flash-is-one-of-the-best-superhero-movies-hes-ever-seen/
Th3Batman
Th3Batman - 7/19/2023, 11:23 AM
@Moriakum - That comment killed what little faith I had in him. I get that he had to promote this movie, but he could've done it in a more neutral way that wouldn't kill his credibility if it failed. What's worse is that he got its director to bring his version of Batman to life. Talk about dead on arrival.
Origame
Origame - 7/19/2023, 11:25 AM
Ok, come on. This horse has been thoroughly beaten. This is why I defend the dceu while I'm here. Not because I think the dceu is good or anything, but because people here go above and beyond bashing it even when it's long since dead. But this takes the cake.

This certainly didn't need to be a list. Most of these boil down to the cgi was bad. Which, yeah. But everyone who saw/didn't see it already knows. You're not setting the world on fire here.

The only ones that don't are just...what?

First of all, George reeves hated the superman role for very specific reasons, having to do with him unable to find work outside of superman and superhero acting wasn't at all what it is today. It's hard to say what he would've approved of had he been alive today, especially considering the superhero genre is still the most popular genre in film at the moment. But legacy wise he deserves his recognition. Also, the circumstances of his death are mirky, so saying he killed himself over superman is ridiculous and insulting (we don't even know IF he killed himself, and there is evidence he was murdered).

As for the Jay garrick flash, you have some nerve talking about the missed opportunity to use Sears when you directly criticized the movie for doing that back when people thought that was supposed to be Sears.
slickrickdesigns
slickrickdesigns - 7/19/2023, 11:36 AM
@Origame - you can defend some DCEU stuff that is truly decent and good. But don’t defend this crap of a movie. It probably set the character back at least another 6 to 7 years on ever getting another solo movie.
Origame
Origame - 7/19/2023, 11:39 AM
@slickrickdesigns - dude, first of all, don't dictate what I can and can't defend. Second, going off the first point, what do you even consider good or decent, because the flash actually has good or decent reviews as it's fresh on rotten tomatoes.

At best the setback is that people didn't see it. But that can easily be chalked to the Ezra boycott.
slickrickdesigns
slickrickdesigns - 7/19/2023, 11:51 AM
@Origame - trust me. It was bad. Bad story/writing, bad lead actor, bad cgi ( supposedly on purpose) the movie got good reviews from people who seemed to be paid to say so.
But I’d give credit to Man of Steel, the Suicide Squad, Snyder league and Wonder Woman for sure.
Origame
Origame - 7/19/2023, 11:56 AM
@slickrickdesigns - yeah, what evidence do you have for the reviews being paid for?

As for your points, I really didn't see anything particularly wrong with the story/writing or the lead actor. It's really more just preference or finding the characters annoying.

As for your choices, yeah I agree with those. But my point stands that you aren't the arbiter of quality. What if someone also included aquaman here? Or peacemaker?
slickrickdesigns
slickrickdesigns - 7/19/2023, 12:06 PM
@Origame - I’m a professional cbm reviewer and I’ve stayed at a holiday inn express before. So there’s my qualifications.
I could say the same for you as your opinion is your own but a lot more people seem to think similar to mine about the flash.
Aquaman could be said to be decent but to me it was lack luster with no heart or feeling to it. Peacemaker was fun to watch but it was super over the top goofball compared to the actual good stuff.
Critics and actors can be bought to say something good about a movie. Whether they’re bought with money or incentives like getting work with a future project people can be bought.
Origame
Origame - 7/19/2023, 12:14 PM
@slickrickdesigns - 1) thanks for the laugh.

2) I never claimed to be an arbiter of quality. You're the one insisting what is and isn't good. And, yes, you find plenty of people here who agree with you. But the closest to a consensus we have is sites like rotten tomatoes where most find it decent to good.

3) yes, it's a comedy. That's how comedies work.

4) I never denied it was possible they could be paid for. I'm asking where's the proof it was. You can't just dismiss them as being paid for without proof.
Urubrodi
Urubrodi - 7/19/2023, 11:31 AM
"Okay, maybe PS4 at a push" not sure what PS4 games have you played but that scene was on PS2 level.
Thing94
Thing94 - 7/19/2023, 11:34 AM
@Urubrodi - Maybe even PSOne! Lol

SpiderParker
SpiderParker - 7/19/2023, 1:00 PM
@Urubrodi - Lets just agree that Matrix had better CGI.
citrafreak
citrafreak - 7/19/2023, 11:35 AM
Wow, another The Flash hit piece by Wilding, what a surprise. Why do you hate DC so much. If it's a negative opinion piece on this website about the DCEU I don't ever have to look at the author. As far as this specific click bate goes I don't understand what the big issue is. I grew up in the 90's and have seen every bad CGI known to man and this doesn't even come close to the worst. With the cameos from people that are no longer with us, they got the permission from their families or estates to use their likenesses so if they don't have a problem with it why do you? Yeah the CGI is bad, too many changes to the story, not enough time or money to finish effects to where they should be, but it is the first time we've seen Christopher Reeve and Helen Slater in the same shot. That was amazing I felt like I did when I saw Superman the Movie when I was a child, and don't get me started on the Nicholas Cage as superman scene. I had a smile on my face the whole time.
rkshuttleworth
rkshuttleworth - 7/19/2023, 12:09 PM
@citrafreak - Josh Wilding seems to only want to confirm just how much of an idiot he is.
HAILHYDRA
HAILHYDRA - 7/19/2023, 11:36 AM
All of these cameos were cheap and completely inconsequential to the plot. Just the absolute worst way to do cameos. Say what you will about how quickly the Illuminati were dispatched, at least they got a little screen time and established how unstoppable the Scarlet Witch was. I remember reading somewhere that Maguire didn’t want to return as SM for some throw away cameo and wanted to be a significant part of the movie. And that’s exactly what we got. The three Spider-Mans working together in a lab was incredible to see. So I guess what I’m saying is that bag CGI aside, these cameos were always a dumb idea and really were just a cheap way to try to service fans.
DocSpock
DocSpock - 7/19/2023, 11:36 AM


It's over. the movie sucked in almost every way.

Just walk away....

ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 7/19/2023, 11:37 AM
This horse is still alive! Keep beating it!

Until this horse is declared dead it is genuinely in danger of getting back up again with a The Flash part 2 announcement coming from DC Studios starring Ezra Miller!
ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 7/19/2023, 11:38 AM
No, for real.
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