X Men 4 And New Mutants Movies In The Works!

Lauren Shuler Donner confirmed that we will indeed be seeing a fourth outing for the X-Men, as well as the feature debut of the original X-youngsters, The New Mutants!
At a Fox Blu-Ray press event in Beverly Hills, Lauren Shuler Donner, X-producer responsible for all of the mutant movies so far, first addressed the (supposed) Tweets by actor Tim Pockock(young Cyclops in Wolverine) which stated..

"currently shooting Australian TV series till February 2010…then X-men first class ;)"

Followed by this...

"victim of cruel prank.last tweet=NOT me.AM filming Aussie show till2010.no official word on XM:FC but am interested.please post retraction."

Shuler claims there is no truth to this whatsoever, and although there is a First Class movie in the works, no shoot date has been confirmed nor any actors signed on at this stage.

When asked what other Mutant related projects we could be seeing in the future, she said she is currently "cooking up plans for" X4, reuniting the X-Men and a big screen outing for The New Mutants. X4, she said, had yet to be pitched to the studio, however.



This report comes from Brendon Connelly over at Slashfilm, who is sending over the info as he gets it live from the press event. So in the event of more lovely Mutie related news, watch this space.
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I dont know all that much about The New Mutants - Astonishing X-Men was all I read until the recent Utopia crossover with Dark Avengers which has me reading Uncanny again!

X-4 could work but as Ive said before - it'll take a lot of work to undo the mess that Ratner created!
JoshW - 9/21/2009, 2:30 PM
first
ItsNotASchooner - 9/21/2009, 2:31 PM
Damnnnnnnnnnnn!
ItsNotASchooner - 9/21/2009, 2:32 PM
Give us a good Deadpool and a good Magneto movie.
ewoksoup - 9/21/2009, 2:33 PM
looks like they are starting up 2 new x trilogies. first class and new mutants. the continuation of x3?
grif - 9/21/2009, 2:36 PM
Joshw24 - Let me encourage you to buy Marvel Graphic Novel #4 and New Mutants vol.1#'s 1 -100! You won't be disappointed!

Everytime I hear about a possible X4 I just deep sigh and roll my eyes.
JonF - 9/21/2009, 2:39 PM
meh, I've always thought that the new mutants were kind of lame, they had weird powers and their stories were always flat.
thwhtGuardian - 9/21/2009, 2:40 PM
Lets hope that X4 can surpass X3. It should be easy. It couldn't be more disappointing than X3. Can it?
If indeed we see Mr Sinister as the main antagonist, then that is at least the first step to actually extending the X-men into the realm that an X-men film truly deserves.
6of13 - 9/21/2009, 2:41 PM
grif said: "the continuation of x3?"

[frick], I hope not...
BmanHall - 9/21/2009, 2:44 PM
Not a continuation, just another X-men movie. But seeing how X3 worked out, well, I suppose X4 could end in a mess to. Sad.
6of13 - 9/21/2009, 2:47 PM
So for X4, Bishop travels from the future, a future decimated by poor Hollywood-produced comic book movies. He returns during the year 2006, just in time to see X3: The Last Stand. After the movie ends, he travels back in time two more years, kills Brett Ratner and convinces Brian Singer to return to the franchise he made great!
longshot234 - 9/21/2009, 2:48 PM
I hope they don't continue on from X3. They f*cked the continuity sideways in that one.

I'd rather see a First Class movie, but it doesn't have ties to the previous X-films so it can avoid a mistake Wolverine made: we know what's going to happen in the end.
InTylerWeTrust82 - 9/21/2009, 2:50 PM
The sad thing is there was no need to create a mess in the first place! Claremont, Louise Jones Simonson and Ann Nocenti had the house of X in perfect order from '75 - '91! Why go and wreck it all? It's just discouraging.

With the X-Men, any attempts to change the correct course of events will inevitably result in disaster! Much like with people thinking the Avengers movie should be based on the Ultimates, it just creates too many problems!

Something like Age of Apocalypse can be enjoyed by longtime fans who apply the proper perspective and context to the story, but for film adaptations it's imperative to stay close to the classic canonic interpretations!!

We need to make sure that younger generations understand that things have been modified to appeal to wider audiences than the comic book buying public!

Example: Iron Man:Armored Adventures - this series was created with the youth demographic in mind! This is high quality animation with solid storytelling! Because it's understood that everything has been changed from the ground up, I accept it as a TOTALLY different version of the property! So I'm able to enjoy it for what it is as opposed to judging it by the standards of the comic! So long as it adheres to its own continuity, It's fine.

Now in the Iron Man MOVIE, obviously things were updated to give the story a contemporary background! Amazingly, everyone on this site loves the IM film, but wholly rejects the new 'toon! ....Okaaaaayy....

Now no one is able to look at the X-flicks the same, as we're always trying to sort out the mess in our minds and arm-chair edit, instead of being able to sit back and enjoy the films!! This is just a sad situation! X3 F-cked up the franchise FAR more than FF2 did to Marvel's first family!!!
JonF - 9/21/2009, 3:02 PM
Wow so many X-projects that I hope to God see the light of day!X4 should crossover with the FF...get it...x--4! hahaha im excited I want more xmovies
IronMarvel - 9/21/2009, 3:05 PM
Good show FOX !!!, making The NEW MUTANTs in X4 is a continuity... the Xmen is gone in X3,
Gose - 9/21/2009, 3:06 PM
they need to go back to basics with Xmen4. We need less (or no Wolverine) and the other characters portrayed a little bit more generously.

Cyclops needs to come back (dunno about who to play him) if they want to do Apocalypse or Sinister, although personally I'd prefer a Sentinels storyline - as I said back to basics.
SoulAllFlush - 9/21/2009, 3:08 PM
Im connected!!! ; D

Friggin' BROADBAND lol.

Only way to change or DELETE the mess of X3 is =



BRING IN CABLE (TIME TRAVEL) Taaa Daaa done and dusted!!!

Easy as that and HELL YES to a NEW MUTANTS movie!!! ; )


LEEE777 - 9/21/2009, 3:08 PM
yes!!!!X4!!! but cut the hyper-realistic singer crap and bring apocalypse and phoenix back with cyclops. have jean control the phoenix and use it to revive cyclops and defeat apocalypse and sinister. use the ultimate storyline which rocked...
Denn1s - 9/21/2009, 3:10 PM
I really want Cyclops to have a major role in the next X-film. He was criminally underused in the other movies, and not only that, he was KILLED OFF!

Altogether, counting all 3 X-films, Cyclops had, at best, 45 minutes of screen time.
InTylerWeTrust82 - 9/21/2009, 3:12 PM
If there is an X-4 but Cyclops isnt in it i wont be going!!! They should use the Astonishing roster and have Joss Whedon write the screenplay! :)

TYLER: I hated how Cyclops was treated in all 3 films (and that is one of the main reasons i hated X-1 and X-2) Instead of being the confident and smart leader he should have been he was the whiney, jealous Ultimate version competing with Wolverine for Jean Grey's affections!! Another reason why Singer should be banned from going near a CBM ever again!!!
JoshW - 9/21/2009, 3:13 PM
Yeah, we can pretty much all agree that Cyclops, the fearles leader, got the shaft BIG time. Although First Class will probably make him the star, I'm still confused on how they're going to put the other characters in it. Oh, and I doubt Iceman wll be in it (watch Wolverine and there is a Icegirl who fled with them).
BryEL - 9/21/2009, 3:19 PM
Hey Tyler, WHAT IF Storm and company feel that Cyclops is not dead. No body, remember? So,they search for Cyclops and cross paths with Sinister which will inevitably lead to Apocalypse. Otherwise, bring in Cable.
If Cyclops was at the battle in the last stand, he could have just blasted Phoenix and the mutants of the Brotherhood. I think that would have been sooooo much better than what the film actually gave us.

6of13 - 9/21/2009, 3:20 PM
I hate waiting
Imran - 9/21/2009, 3:21 PM
I saw someone say before that they should go back to the basics with the next X-movie. I definitely agree with that. They need to shorten up the roster of X-Men in the next one, and just shorten the roster of characters altogether.

I want the next X-Men line-up to be:

1. Cyclops

2. Jean

3. Xavier

4. Beast

5. Iceman

6. Angel

7. Maybe Storm
InTylerWeTrust82 - 9/21/2009, 3:22 PM
You GUYS NEVER listen! IF CABLES in it, he can go back way before CYCLOPS gets killed an wipes out most of X3!!!

; D

By the way, that would mean though CYCLOPS had an affair with whats her name, who's pregnant with CABLE, easy an drama! ; )
LEEE777 - 9/21/2009, 3:23 PM
TYLER @ I want that LINE UP for FIRST CLASS!!! ; D

Minus STORM lol.
LEEE777 - 9/21/2009, 3:24 PM
CABLE can change the whole Franchise for the better!!!

Think about it! ; )
LEEE777 - 9/21/2009, 3:25 PM
I want the next movie to be First Class, hence why I said next X-movie line up :)
InTylerWeTrust82 - 9/21/2009, 3:26 PM
why do people want cyclops back? he did jack shit. just like rogue. and jean grey is dead so no love interest. no need for him to be around.
grif - 9/21/2009, 3:27 PM
Wasn't Madelyne Pryor Cable's mother?
JonF - 9/21/2009, 3:28 PM
GRIF @ In your own words, IF CYCLOPS is not in X4 it will be =

FAIL! ; D

JonF @ Good man! Yes she was!! ; )
LEEE777 - 9/21/2009, 3:29 PM
GRIF @ Seriously, you cant be much of an X-MEN fan if you don't want CYCLOPS back dude!

TYLER @ ; )
LEEE777 - 9/21/2009, 3:30 PM
That's exactly why we want him back grif, because he did nothing. We want him to be a major character this time, and actually act like a leader and be important!

That whole Cable storyline you described Lee, while interesting (so don't take this the wrong way), sounds extremely complicated and very confusing, at least for the average movie-goer. It seems like there would be tons of explaining and that just gets boring if there is too much exposition.

Please, don't take that the wrong way.
InTylerWeTrust82 - 9/21/2009, 3:31 PM
Grif - people want the REAL Cyclops, not the movie version! One thing that kills me about the Wolverine and the X-Men cartoon is that Scott and Logan's roles have reversed! Screw that! Scott is the glue that holds that team together, dammit!
JonF - 9/21/2009, 3:31 PM
I agree with TYLER's picks for the First Class roster (apart from Storm maybe) but my choice for X-4's potential roster would be...

Cyclops

Emma Frost

Wolverine

Beast

Colossus

Shadowcat

Iceman

And possibly introduce Havok, Polaris and Cable.

I would quite like new actors for some of these parts but ill get round to that after i finish my new Captain America fan cast! :D
JoshW - 9/21/2009, 3:32 PM
TYLER @ Dude if the average movie-goer can stick with TERMINATOR they can digg CABLE!

You digg! ; D

An TYLER, i wont take it the wrong way lol, but they can easily explain CABLE changing X-History,

Hell they've done it with FRIGGIN' STAR TREK for the better might i add! ; )
LEEE777 - 9/21/2009, 3:34 PM
I'd rather they leave Storm out as well, I just included her because I wouldn't be totally against her if they used Storm. But I would be against Halle Berry again!
InTylerWeTrust82 - 9/21/2009, 3:35 PM
JOSH @ Have you a love affair with Ackles dude, you've done about FOUR CAP AMERICA FAN CASTS if you include INVADERS, AVENGERS etc, actually you've probably done even more than that lol!: D
LEEE777 - 9/21/2009, 3:36 PM
Like Tyler said, we need to have Cyclops, Jean, Prof X, a "hell-of-alot better" Beast, Iceman, Angel, Storm, Woleverine, and Night Crawler. Can not forget, Colossus!
Going against the Sentinels then through Apocalypse in the mix and maybe a cameo from Sinestro.
THULK - 9/21/2009, 3:37 PM
All im saying,,,, if they can do it to TREK for the better they can do it for X-MEN!!!

It wasn;t just COMIC BOOK FANS that didn't like X3 much lol.


LEEE777 - 9/21/2009, 3:38 PM
LEE: sigh, if only they hadnt killed off Cyclops they could just do X-4 and pretend that X-3 never happenned, sorta like what the did with The Incredible Hulk! the Cable idea could be over-complicated but its the only way to undo the damage! :)

Oh and lol, i did The Invaders, then the Captain America movie and now a new one with some new choices (and not an Ackles in site, lol!) This time im including his newer villains like Faustus and Sin rather than just the WWII caracters! :D
JoshW - 9/21/2009, 3:39 PM
Well, with that Cable story, they'd have to explain that:

1. Cable is from the future and his story (which would take up a fairly large sum of screen time)

2. He changed the past

3. Why he did what he did

4. The Cyclops/Pryor storyline (also a large sum of screen time)

That's quite a bit for the audience to swallow in one movie

THULK: Sinestro is DC....I'm guessing you meant Mr. Sinister lol
InTylerWeTrust82 - 9/21/2009, 3:39 PM
The only way you can have CYCLOPS in X4 is to bring CABLE in it, end of!!!

Then we can get a CABLE spin off movie! ; )


LEEE777 - 9/21/2009, 3:40 PM
HECK YES!!!!
Get rid of storm!Which means more Cyclops!!!!
line-up
Cyclops
Wolverine
Shadowcat
Emma Frost
Beast
Collosus
Cable
Bring on Apocalypse and Sinister!!!!!
NightAvenger4 - 9/21/2009, 3:41 PM
TYLER: Good points...we need an Incredible Hulk style reboot!!! :)
JoshW - 9/21/2009, 3:42 PM
Now, this is what I call the X-Men!!! Some similar type costumes would be perfect IMO!

BDP_Ast_Xmen_col
JoshW - 9/21/2009, 3:44 PM
Oh and a cool big CGI non vinnie jones Juggernaut too!
^^^^Good line-up!!!!
NightAvenger4 - 9/21/2009, 3:45 PM
I just want them to start with First Class as the beginning of a new continuity, not bogged down by having to keep to the old continuity, but they wouldn't have to go through the whole origin, as in TIH, like Josh said.

Start with the basic members, Cyclops, Jean, Xavier, Iceman, Angel, and Beast. Don't want another clogged and crammed X-film like X3!

And hell yes to new costumes. We need some personality in them, ones that are unique to each team member's personality/powers.
InTylerWeTrust82 - 9/21/2009, 3:46 PM
JOSH @ My bad lol, look forward to seeing it IF i don't lose the internet, keeps [frick]ing going dude on me lol'

Come on ya mizzed me lol! : D

P.S. IF movie-goers can accept TERMINATOR and the NEW TREK REBOOT, they can easily accept the X-MEN REBOOT where CABLE wipes and changes it, it would be the sweetest!

Good pic @ JOSH! ; )
LEEE777 - 9/21/2009, 3:47 PM
Me too @ TYLER, ORIGINAL X-MEN a must!!! ; )
LEEE777 - 9/21/2009, 3:48 PM
Why is it so hard for some people to just use their imagination! Cyc need not be dead! We never see a body, and all they have to say anyway, is that Jean doesn't kill when she does that shatter effect thing, but simply zapd em to another dimension of something. That would explain Xaviers consciousness ending up in another body and we could get Cyc back no probs too. Also, I have been reading X comics since i could walk and I always though Cyc was a [frick]ing douche! He might be more fearless and less whiney than they portrayed him in the movies but trust me folks, he is not supposed to be a likable character! I would like him back too though, as much as i hate him he is an important part of the team.

New Mutants movie needs to be DARK...dark as it gets.

And Josh, dude if you actually think those costumes wouldn't be laughed off the screen you are living in another world my friend!
RorMachine - 9/21/2009, 3:51 PM
I LAUGHED (An also CRIED) Watching BORIGINS! ; D
LEEE777 - 9/21/2009, 3:55 PM
Bring in CABLE!!!

[frick] the X3!
LEEE777 - 9/21/2009, 3:57 PM
LEE: No worries, I was beginning to wonder where you had vanished to!

Costumes are a must this time!Even if they used the same ones as last time (which i hated) just add a little colour to them to personalise them rather than them all be so bloody generic!!!

And Emma Frost is a must - it'll add a new dynamic and a great chance for cleavage, hehe! ;D
JoshW - 9/21/2009, 3:57 PM
Ror: I agree those exact costumes wouldn't translate very well on to the screen, Josh said similar type costumes. They could easily make those costumes more modern and fitting with the movies, and still keep it close to the comic costumes.

Anyways, be off for a bit. I'll return later :)


InTylerWeTrust82 - 9/21/2009, 3:59 PM
Did nobody notice that X3 set up Shadow King? Professor X has to travel through the astral plan to get to his new body. He can sense that a new evil is coming which would be Shadow King.

That would also allow Emma Frost and Psylock to be brought in. No not Wolverine Origins Emma Frost and no not X3 chick who was for some reason named Psylock but wasn't her at all.

Also Cyclops doesn't have to be dead. We didn't actually see him die just get a yucky kiss. That would add the Cyclops/Emma Frost relationship.

And even though I'm glad he was in the movies at all give Colossus the credit he deserves YA HEAR.


Gigacrusher45 - 9/21/2009, 4:04 PM
ROR: yeah, i should have been more specific sorry - i meant thats the roster i would like to see but id definitely like to see realistic variations on those costumes! the only ones there that would work onscreen without needing to be changed is Beasts and Emma Frosts IMO! :)

Im off as well to play Fallout 3! Later y'all! :D
JoshW - 9/21/2009, 4:05 PM
lol I have the entire New Mutants run from 1 to 100.
I know it was unpopular but as a kid I ate it up!

I wonder who should play Magik.. or Cannonball. I hope they show his power as it should be with a visible force field around him in flight. I hated how they drew him in X Force and after.

If they include Warlock, then they NEED Doug Ramsey also... if only to have one that can get killed lol

Wait what am i saying? This is Fox we are talking about. They won't do any of this stuff
DarthMulder - 9/21/2009, 4:09 PM
WHAT I DONT LIKE..PEOPLE THAT SPOONFEED US SOMETHING THAT WE CARE ABOUT CHANGED UP AND KEY THINGS SACRIFICED IN ORDER TO MAKE A BUCK MORE.
GUNSMITH - 9/21/2009, 4:10 PM
Holy shit holy shit holy shit holy shit. Ror I could kiss you I'm so F******* happy! A New Mutants movie, this could mean Cable. X-4 this may mean Sinister! A whole new trilogy setting up Apocalypse for X-6!

I haven't been this excited in a while!

I am finishing my F**** X-4 story!
THEHAWK - 9/21/2009, 4:14 PM
New Mutants was a dull series till cable came along...i say go straight for the X-Force original line up :)
teabag - 9/21/2009, 4:18 PM
if SHE is involved in X4 i dont really care, b/c it affirms the fact that it will suck
dellamorte1872 - 9/21/2009, 4:25 PM
Why would it have to be sinister or apocalypse? I remember a very powerful sentnial from the future giving them a hell of a fight more then once. The story line could be Cable comes to the past to correct things that got screwed up. (i cant remember the name of this sentinal) (i'm old bear with me) anyway this sentinal follows him to the past and the Xmen suddenly have their hands full. In this movie my choices for charcters would cyclops, wolverine, colossus, shadowcat, prof x, nightcrawler, a fixed Rogue also and of course Cable.
I listed alot of charcters i know. but i remember a issue where it took the Xmen and hellfire club both to try to take this guy down and during the fiht it caused one of the hellfire guys to have a heartattack. I also remember him bringing a building down on a few of the Xmen men once so Rogue asorbed colossus's powers, nightcrawlers and one or 2 others if i remember right. anyway it ended with her kicking his ass and him losing an arm.

BrutalDuke
BrutalDuke - 9/21/2009, 4:33 PM
Some Days of Future Past action would be nice.
HouserepresentativeZod - 9/21/2009, 4:38 PM
the CABLE/BISHOP story could really "reboot" the whole series a laa STAR TREK. time/paradoxes fractured screwed up time, they could even use that to recast some characters *ahem* HALLE'S STORM
dellamorte1872 - 9/21/2009, 4:40 PM
dellamorte@ Halle showed a great range in her acting in her portrayel of Storm.....i mean she did African accent in the first , Martian in the second and American in the 3rd....i mean wow ..lol :)
teabag - 9/21/2009, 4:48 PM
I doubt we will see the Sentinels of Days Of Future Past. Hopefully its Sinister related, but either way you know Magneto is gonna be one of the villains.

Teabag I agree the New Mutants started off a bit dull, but it got good before Cable. The Demon Bear Saga was prob the best story. Darkchild is hands down one of the best characters in the whole X universe so they need to make her front and center with Cannonball I think.
RorMachine - 9/21/2009, 4:48 PM
IN X-MEN 4....

I WANT TO SEE THE WAR AGAINST SENTINELS in the next movie.

X-mem Sentinels Pictures, Images and Photos

I want Gambit and NightCrawler back in the film.


If they do X-MEN 5.... I WANT APOCALIPSE!

Apocalipse Sig Pictures, Images and Photos
NubaX - 9/21/2009, 4:50 PM
Ror@ very true..but no Mojo crap or Warlock :P
teabag - 9/21/2009, 4:54 PM
Hell yeah bring in Cable. The movie starts in the future: Cable goes back in time to change the timeline of X3 in order to prevent a greater catastrophe in the future or something to that effect.


6of13 - 9/21/2009, 5:04 PM
I would so see a Cable spin off movie. In fact, I think it would make one awesome movie, whether you know Cable or not.
X4 would be the perfect platform to introduce Cable and allow for a Cable spin-off to follow.
6of13 - 9/21/2009, 5:08 PM
Yes to time travel leading to cancelation of events from x3. First and second were well enough, so they can still be used. Furthermore, definetly need some major recasting, have wolverine go to Japan or something, and be absent the wholle movie.
As for lineup - Iceman: totally revorked to annoying brash smart alleck he is, needs to be; Cyke: see iceman, and substitute the adjectives with appropriate ones; Beast: was not altogether bad, just needs some depth given to him; Angel: Make him the slightly snobish charmer he should be; Storm: Just find good enough actres and should be ok; Jean: By god's sake recast!! prof X was done well enough. And just for the heck of it, give us some Betsy goodness.
For youngers: Colosus: a)His power should be fixed to function as it was suposed to b) He is fricking russian;
Rogue: If you cannot do the sassy southern belle with 'tude, just don't touch her anymore; Kitty: meh never did like the character, so I don't care.

New mutants - Do them right, and should be awsome
Cannonball for the leader, boomboom for sass, sunspot for fem fanservice, Karma and Mirage(moonstar) for depth, cypher for brains and wolfsbane 'cuse she's just to awsome to miss out.
gvozdengrom - 9/21/2009, 5:21 PM
Start with a X-Men 4 now it's stupid. They must do before X-Men: First Class and try to make understand people (who don't read comics) that X-Men are not only Wolverine but also Cyclops, Jean, Storm etc. So First Class it's vitality. After this they can make X-Men 4 and put back Cyclops as leader. I don't know how but they MUST BRING BACK CYCLOPS!
Cyke89 - 9/21/2009, 5:23 PM
You guys are probably right. This movie won't have anything to do with New Mutants except for the name.

lol Maybe not even that. Ah well.
My interest in this is about to slip into the negative numbers.
When I first saw this article it was about a 3. Then I read you guys' comments and it went down to just a little past zero. I doubt I will even bother with it.
DarthMulder - 9/21/2009, 5:24 PM
Woh does this mean continuation from X3! [frick] yeah! Fix all the problems wrong with the X-Franchise with Sinister and Apocalypse! Cyclops can be brought back, Cable can be brought in from the future and given his own spin-off, we can get a days of future past movie and then Magneto prequel and X-Men first class trilogy. I hope the original cast return and make x4 and x5 that completely fix the franchise. Someone good for the director of X4 please

This is gonna be awesome (hopefully)!
dancingmonkey08 - 9/21/2009, 5:25 PM
id luv to see a new mutants movie. that could be how they introduce cable to the movieverse! oh ya!!

woo hoo!
jallanr - 9/21/2009, 5:39 PM
I'm in favor of a first class scenario with the original cast of the x-men. Xmen first class was a pretty good book, so they should do something like that instead of trying to pick up after x 3
thwhtGuardian - 9/21/2009, 5:43 PM
joshw24 - The Astonishing X-Men roster you love so much is Joss Whedon's distillation of the definitive "all-new, all-different" X-Men roster from '82 - '83. It consisted of:Professor X, Cyclops, Storm(original costume), Colossus(original costume), Wolverine(brown costume), Nightcrawler and Kitty Pryde. This team was active from issues #150 - 175 and was by far the most effective fighting unit the X-Men has ever had, as well as having the perfect blend of powers and personalities! And THEN they added Rogue! I LOVED that version! Definitely pick those issues up! It may change your mind!

Emma Frost, to me, will always belong in the Hellfire Club! And the Beast with blue fur belongs on the Avengers first, then the Defenders, and THEN X-Factor, lastly belonging to the X-Men! Plus Kitty's costume during the Astonishing run is too standardized!

As for X4; ENOUGH with Wolvie for now! I won't miss him and it's getting to be overkill! Positioning Logan for his own franchise was likely the deciding factor in killing off Scott in X3!

IDK why we can't just follow the chronology of the comic book with minor adjustments and embellishments: The five originals, + Havok, Polaris and Mimic; transition to the new team and then go from there! Asanine stuff like de-aging Rogue, Angel and Iceman needs to be avoided like the plague!! And please can we start referring to Jean Grey as Marvel Girl?!? And she's not a doctor; let Moira MacTaggert have that role as was intended! And if Scott IS brought back, please let it be with the skullcap hood!! It's one crucial design element that was sorely missing!

Another cool roster I love from '89: Storm, Wolvie, Psylocke, Gambit and Jubilee, all on the hunt for Rogue! The team was raw and lean back then! They had never been so dangerous!
JonF - 9/21/2009, 5:45 PM
thwthknight - The first class book was all revisionist ret-conning! Ugh! I hope Fox only uses the name!!

teabag - New Mutants was more centered on character development and interpersonal relationships; most of the time Prof. X and Magneto were trying to keep the team from getting involved in any action. X-Force was really a totally different book! It was more action oriented, but I don't even consider the two of them the same series! The only carryover from NM was Cannonball and the book(NM) REALLY lost its way when they dumped in the X-Terminators!!
JonF - 9/21/2009, 5:52 PM
NW better have warlock
scarecr0w13 - 9/21/2009, 5:57 PM
I actually hated the original X Force. Rob liefield's ineptitude didn't help matters either.
RorMachine - 9/21/2009, 6:21 PM
Regarding Cable.Marvel have been talking about making a Cable movie.So I'm assuming they still hold the rights to the character, which means he can't interact with the characters Fox has.Does anyone else know if this is true?
kenny38606 - 9/21/2009, 6:28 PM
@ josh

the original new mutants comics were unbelievably good!

my best setup for X4:

the jean in X3 was a clone (madelyne pryor) that was sent by sinister. the real jean should still be in a coccoon under the lake. cyclops wasn't killed, but taken prisoner by sinister to run experiments on him. sinister explains that if cyclops and jean had a kid, it would be one of the most powerful mutants to ever live. the xmen save jean and cyke. the movie ends with cyke and jean giving birth to infant cable and sending him to the future.

X5 could be about the sentinels. and then X6 can be cable's return from the future in all his glory.

@ LEEE

i want to see cable too, but just bringing him in with no setup would be weak as hell!
CorndogBurglar - 9/21/2009, 6:29 PM
Jonf, You speak truly, sir. Correct on all counts especially the one about the differences between X Force and NM.

But unfortunately to Schuler Donner saying they want to go ahead with a New Mutants movie translates to
"We're going to hang that name on some random silly thing we hired a hack non comic reading writer to come up with"

So a "New Mutants" movie could be anything. It could end up being the characters from Generation X (lol) with Cable and Bishop as gay lovers doing a bootie call across time and featuring Dani Moonstar, Feral and Celia Reys as mutant hoes being pimped out by Caliban and Blaquesmith and a guest appearance from Maggot thrown in there for "authenticity's" sake. lmao


DarthMulder - 9/21/2009, 6:29 PM
@ ror

i've gotta disagree with you about cyclops, man. he's easily my favorite x-man, if not favorite comic character!!! most people that don't like cyclops just look at him as being the "boyscout" or the goodie goodie. but the bottom line is, the only time cyke turns into a loud mouth, "you need to follow my orders now" attitude is when wolvie or someone else gives him shiz. but in the end, they all listen to him, because they know, that tactically, he's unmatched by anyone else in the marvel universe, except MAYBE cap.

also, if you read interviews with former x-writers, you'll almost ALWAYS here them mention how much fun it is to write cyke. he's such a well layered character that writers eat it up. and you certainly can't hate on his powers! they used to describe his optic blasts as "capable of pulverizing adamantium"!!
CorndogBurglar - 9/21/2009, 6:35 PM
@ darth mulder

lol...maggot, what a dumb character.
CorndogBurglar - 9/21/2009, 6:36 PM
if they did a x4 i would be thrilled to death if they did a silent reboot just have some cut scenes in the beginning of cyclops coming back and how xavier got back and change the outfits dont tell no1 have iceman a older guy with colossus all grown up 2 a older hotter rouge with mrs marvels powers throw gambit in dont even explain how i dont care start the movie 10 years later from x3
jimthefan - 9/21/2009, 6:41 PM
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kenny38606 - 9/21/2009, 6:44 PM
Well, CDB, i guess we all see different things in certain characters. Like i said, I have read shit loads of X books for many years and i always got the impression that he was a royal pain in the ass. Yeah sure he knew what he was doing, but he was also selfish, egotistical and unbelievably self righteous. I agree that he is a great character because i love to hate him, but I question how likable the dude was ever supposed to be. He has never been more of a bastard, and because of that, more interesting, than in the current X Force run.
RorMachine - 9/21/2009, 6:46 PM
Well this is news. In my mid-teens I began collecting The New Mutants. Their first appearance Marvel Graphic Novel #4 1982 and New Mutants #1-#100. At that time I could relate to those kids. Early stories were the best but then got meh. They battled the Sentinels in issue #2 and kicked ass. I would love to a film featuring that first five of Karma, Cannonball, Psyche, Sunspot, and Wolfsbane.
hewilldefytheirgravity - 9/21/2009, 6:47 PM
So many Marvel movies what is this world COMING TO.
Weiner123 - 9/21/2009, 6:58 PM
@ ror

i'll give you that, he is a bastard in x-force. but he's also got a purpose. if you read astonishing x-men, he's written the best ever, in my opinion
CorndogBurglar - 9/21/2009, 7:02 PM
JonF: I know about the X-Men team you're talking and have read a fair few comic books featuring that team - however, the characters and dynamic of the Astonishing team makes them best X-team so far IMO! I think that Emma Frost is a brilliant character and would definitely not want to see her return to her evil roots anytime in the future and for me, Beast is definitely is an X-Man before anything else! :)

I have to agree with NubaX - i really want to see the Sentinals in the next X-Movie!
JoshW - 9/21/2009, 7:25 PM
I agree with both Corndog and Rorschach01. He does have leadership qualities, a cool power and good battle skills, but at times he is definitely depicted as a pompous ass too.

It's usually not something that's so overt really. It's more like things other characters say about him. Like that time Quicksilver beat him up in Infinity Crusade. He says something like "I never could stand his pompous attitude"
It's just an attitude that he has because he was the first X Man and always depicted as "teh leeeder". The cheesy brown nosing class favorite.

@ Corndogburgler: Whedon's depiction of Cyclops is probably the most favorable in X men history. I'm not saying it's bogus, it's not. Astonishing is a hell of a wonderful book. But he's throwing in this fair minded thing, where the guy is a little less of a dil. And that wasn't always the case.
DarthMulder - 9/21/2009, 7:25 PM
DO IT. Cyclops(James Marsden) must be the hero this time.
Torian Brown - 9/21/2009, 7:33 PM
it's time I start lobying for Cannonball!!!

PICS ARE LOCATED ON MY FANSITE! i will add more soon
gestlmutant - 9/21/2009, 8:10 PM
"He says something like "I never could stand his pompous attitude"

Well, Quicksilver is one of the most pompous asses in the Marvel Universe, so I don't really know what to make of that.Maybe he didn't want Scott stealing his spotlight.
kenny38606 - 9/21/2009, 9:31 PM
They should fix X-men 4 first before they even dream of creating The New Mutants or any other mutant franchise.
redskullrevenge - 9/22/2009, 1:35 AM
Yup they need to do just a little tweaking for X-men 4. Cyclops is perfect with Marsden playing him but he needs to be more in charge, heroic, mature and authoritative. Cyclops is not just a whiny dick, he's more complex than that. Sterwart is also perfect as Xavier.

Jean needs to be someone a little younger, more Marsden's age. Iceman also needs to be Marsden's age. I want to see someone younger and shorter for Wolverine but everyone else seems to be hypnotized into accepting old gigantic Jackman as him. It seems to me that Singer, Rat-turd, Jackman and FOX have run the X-franchise into the ground!

I never have liked the inaccurate height portrayal of Logan! But Hugh has done a very good job fleshing out the character's persona. Colossus is good the way he is with Cudmore playing him. Piotr was always younger than the rest of the new X-men in X-men 94.

Shadowcat is perfect. Now they need to bring in Emma Frost and a couple of other younger X-men like Cannonball. And please replace Paquin as Rogue.

Rogue is a strong, blustery older street-savvy person in the comics. Paquin is all wrong for Rogue with her young somewhat-naive timid portrayal of her. And get rid of Halle Berry, quickly!
DDD - 9/22/2009, 8:38 AM
I've been reading X-Men comics for nearly 2 decades now, so I usually don't post on here unless the article involves the X-Men.

I'm not thrilled about FOX doin' anymore mutant movies because I've watched them butcher my childhood heroes for 4 straight movies. Yes, I would love more X-Men movies to be made - but only if they can be made with the time, effort, and money it takes to give them justice.

It really sucks that so many fans have hopped on the Emma Frost bandwagon. Jean Grey is an exceptionally great character that brought an innocence to the team and was truly the heart of the team for decades - but sadly newer fans will remember her as the character that Marvel beat us over the heads with and then continued to drive into the ground. I truly wish Marvel would bring her back and ditch Emma Frost. They try to sell Emma off as the poster-child, first X-Lady of the team, but I'm not buying it - she was better off evil.

New Mutants was a flippin' sweet team and a great comic. There was not a single member on that team that wasn't an awesome mutant. The newest New Mutants series is nearly as good, and I highly recommend pickin' it up.
BLACKWINGS17 - 9/22/2009, 8:48 AM
I have read the first couple of issues, I have to say it really didn't grab me..does it get better?
RorMachine - 9/22/2009, 9:05 AM
I liked the Young X-Men series a lot more than the New New Mutants series
gestlmutant - 9/22/2009, 10:06 AM
joshw24 - The Beast was in the X-Men first, but when I think of him with blue fur, the Avengers comes to mind! He and Wonder Man had a great dynamic that added a lot of enjoyment to the series! Guess you had to be around in the late 70s to understand!

The Astonishing roster is really the same as the '81 -'83 team; just substitute Emma for Storm and the Beast for Nightcrawler! I loved that green and tan costume that Kitty had back then, though!

Whoever made the comment about Cyke's leadership abilities was dead on! Damn straight only Cap can out-lead Cyclops! Cyke leads with military-level authority - even in the Danger Room!

Everyone: the issue I have is Cyclops being killed off to make room for Wolvie to take over the film! It left such a bad taste in my mouth that I don't care about fixing it! I'm just pissed...and that's just the beginning concerning X3!!!
JonF - 9/22/2009, 5:45 PM

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