X-Men Movie Franchise Updates

Empire interviewed X-Producer Lauren Shuler Donner and got some detailed news on what's in store for the coming X-Men franchise...

On Wolverine 2


"That's the furthest along of all the X-Men projects on the boil. It's actually the story we wanted to use for the first Wolverine film, but [Fox head honcho] Tom Rothman preferred to set the character up with an origin story first. This movie will really focus on the relationship between Wolverine and Mariko, the daughter of a Japanese crime lord, and what happens to him in Japan. We're very fortunate to have a story mostly outlined for us [from the comic book arc co-written by Chris Claremont and Frank Miller]. And we wanted an A+ writer, so we want to Chris McQuarrie (Valkyrie, The Usual Suspects). He came in and has tightened the story and got really immersed in the whole thing - he's in Japan in his head!

We want to make it authentic so I think it's very likely we'll be shooting in Japan. Also, by the way, we are looking to have the Japanese Fox executives involved in helping and counselling us, because it's a different culture and we don't want to portray the way they speak, dress and act in an inaccurate way. I think it's likely the characters will speak English rather than Japanese with subtitles.

What's cool about this part of the saga is that Wolverine will be fighting in a different style to what we've seen before. Mariko's father has this stick-like weapon, so Wolverine will have to fight against that. There'll be samurai, ninja, katana blades, different forms of martial arts - mano-a-mano, extreme fighting. We're going to come up with a new style of fighting. It's going to be awesome."

On X-Men: First Class


"Harry Potter is a bit of a role model for us, absolutely. But we want it to be like the recent, darker Potters. It should not be a kiddie movie - we're in the X-Men world so you can't suddenly change the tone. The First Class comics are really fun - they're funnier than any other comics I've read. Basically in each one the kids are fighting strange villains, sometimes it's aliens, sometimes it's monsters. I want to get a flavour of that world. Occasionally the kids will be in class, but more often they'll be off on adventures. Which Professor X isn't too happy about! There's nothing more interesting than a bad kid, and this is full of naughty children. Cyclops, for example - he's a tough kid that bobbed from foster home to foster home, until he ends up at the school and becomes the leader. There's also still an element of friction between the mutants and the outside world. Remember that this will be set way back before anyone knew mutants existed.

Right now the script is not done -we're not where we want to be yet. We have to be careful that we don't tread on familiar territory, that people don't say, "Oh, I've seen that, been there." But (screenwriter) Josh Schwartz has a great young pulse and he's doing an amazing job bringing the characters to life. We want to make this a franchise, following these kids at the school, so the casting of the child actors will be all-important."


On Deadpool


"I want to ignore the version of Deadpool that we saw in Wolverine and just start over again. Reboot it. Because this guy talks, obviously, and to muzzle him would be insane.

I don't see it as a problem that Ryan [Reynolds] is also playing Green Lantern. I mean, look at Harrison Ford - he was in Stars Wars and Indiana Jones at the same time and everyone was fine with that. Green Lantern could not be more different to Wade Wilson. Green Lantern is a guy who finds a ring and is thrust into this world, much like Spider-Man. Wade Wilson is a guy who unfortunately gets cancer, and volunteers for a test that will give him healing powers. He is a bad ass, a wise-cracking mercenary, who will go out and kill anyone for money. But the thing about him is that, underneath it all, and he wouldn't want you to know this, sometimes he's not such a bad ass after all. Sometimes he does the right thing.

It's going to be a dark, snarky, very funny movie. It's the hardest story to tell, I think. There's no clear cut villain - though you do have great baddies from the comic-books like Black Tom, Slayback, Blind Al and the Weasel. Blind Al is this blind woman in his house, who he abuses and mocks… it's terrible. But you find out that she was a convict who did something terrible and he saved her from execution. So he lets her live in his house and she looks after him, but they both torture each other. Anyway, there are good stories and we're figuring out which ones to incorporate.

We're right in the thick of talking to writers right now, and hopefully by November we'll have decided who's going to do it. We need someone really imaginative because we want to do some really innovative, ambitious stuff. Ryan's mentioned this in an interview already but there are parts where he's going to break the fourth wall and talk directly to the audience in the cinema. We have to work out how to do that. I don't know that Fox will agree with all our decisions, but we'll see!"

On Magneto


"David Goyer has written a brilliant script. It starts in the concentration camps and has Magneto coming out of there. But you know, I'm not sure that film is going to be made. The studio has a wealth of potential stories, and they have to stand back and decide which ones to make. And Magneto, I think, is at the back of the queue. Maybe it'll get made in five years - who knows? I can tell you that Ian McKellen won't be playing the character the whole way through. We used Lola technology in X-Men 3 to de-age Ian and Patrick for one scene, but it's very expensive. To do that for a two-hour movie would be prohibitive financially. And to find a younger actor to fill Ian's shoes, that's pretty daunting. It's not easy."
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143 Comments

cool news just hope they dont go too much into deadpools origins just make the film with him already having his powers
supersteveprime18 - 10/16/2009, 1:09 PM
Wolverine 2: Its good to see that the Wolverine sequel will be in Japan but lets just hope that they dont fill it with any more irrelevant cameos that screw up the chance of the characters appearing in any future X-Men movies!

First Class: Im not sure if I like the fact that she says the Harry Potter movies are an influence for X-Men: First Class! In fact, the whole concept that she has there for the movie seems completely wrong! Sneakinging out of class for adventures!?! Dear God...

Deadpool: Wow, what a cop-out rebooting Deadpool because they screwed up so badly in Origins is! I was hoping that we would eventually get some sort of explanation as to what happenned to Deadpool - maybe its best just to think of that thing in origins as a clone or something!!!

As for Magneto...I hope it never gets made!!! His origin isnt interesting enough to take up a whole movie and could be done in 20mins easy!!!
JoshW - 10/16/2009, 1:13 PM
Hopefully all good but i have my doubts on FIRST CLASS!!

HARRY [frick]ING POTTER???
LEEE777 - 10/16/2009, 1:14 PM
I still say if they do the X-men first Class forget about the Magneto Movie vise versa. It's just too much. The wolvie movie seems cool, but i'm tired of him already. BRING ON DEADPOOL.
StrangemannX09 - 10/16/2009, 1:15 PM
JOSH @ MAGNETO is gonna be the most thought out movie up there lol.

WOLVERINE 2 we knew was JAPAN, and DEADPOOL better be the merc with the mouth and have his black and red duds!

FOX don't blow it again!
LEEE777 - 10/16/2009, 1:15 PM
Wolverine 2: Don't really care much for this one, hopefully it's an improvement over the first, even though I enjoyed Origins.

First Class: I want this quite a bit actually. I want it to start a new continuity, get back to the basics, and get all the characters right this time. Hopefully we'll see this one within the next few years.

Deadpool: Definitely the right way to go with ignoring Wolverine's Deadpool. The way they described the movie sounds pretty damn good to me.

Magneto: I don't want this movie. It's so unnecessary, and has a lot of potential to suck. I don't trust it.
InTylerWeTrust82 - 10/16/2009, 1:17 PM
X-MEN: FIRST CLASS = Got to be the ORIGINAL team of five or don't bother!

[frick] a 90210 FIRST CLASS team spun from BORIGINS!

Damn, no X4 though or GAMBIT!

But great find @ CBM!!
LEEE777 - 10/16/2009, 1:19 PM
Well, obviously its early days, but she sounds like she knows her stuff and was very honest about Deadpools raping in Origins! I have high hopes for all of these..except First Class which no matter what way they do it is gonna be kiddie, irrelevant, pointless and boring..just like the comics.
RorMachine - 10/16/2009, 1:23 PM
Sigh...lets face it guys. Fox i making all of these so with a track record that includes Elektra and Fantastic Four they're all going to be crap! :( I mean, how can you compare Harry Potter to First Class!?!
JoshW - 10/16/2009, 1:24 PM
um, mariko's father fights with a "stick like weapon??" i hope by "stick like weapon" he meant samurai sword. because thats what shingen used, a samurai sword. it was wolverine that used the wooden training sword, because shingen didn't think he deserved to use an actual blade.
CorndogBurglar - 10/16/2009, 1:24 PM
@ ror

the first comics are kiddie, but i actually like them for some reason. its kind of refreshing to have an x-men series set back in the day that doesn't have to follow 50 years of convoluted back story.
CorndogBurglar - 10/16/2009, 1:25 PM
They got Deadpool perfectly in the beginning, when he was still Wade. Literally perfect.

But, they did royally rape his character at the end, that sh*t doesn't deserve to get a continuation.
InTylerWeTrust82 - 10/16/2009, 1:27 PM
Encouraging news...
ElBicho - 10/16/2009, 1:34 PM
FIRST CLASS - will be a killer movie IF it aint that 90210 sh!Te!!!

DEADPOOL'S - best off forgetting that crap from you know what before hand!!

MAGNETO - Gonna be a deep good old thinking masterpiece movie!

& WOLVERINE 2 - hell lets just hope no pointless X-Cameos and instead, plenty of WOLVERINE RAGE and NINJAS!!!
LEEE777 - 10/16/2009, 1:36 PM
CDB, im just not that big of a fan of the original team in any incarnation. Never was. My favorites were always Wolvie, Storm , Nightcrawler and Colossus..later on i grew like Beast and Jean, but Ice man always annoyed me as did preppy, soldier boy Doucheclops. The early stories just bored me. So whether they reboot it completely(keep dreaming Leee!) or focus on the movie worlds established first class, I cant see it being a very enjoyable movie.
RorMachine - 10/16/2009, 1:36 PM
Dont like the First Class aproach......i dont need a X-Spy Kids movie in my life right now....and how exactly does Star Wars and Indiana Jones relate to each other?...if they were both space movies id understand but uh :P
teabag - 10/16/2009, 1:37 PM
I wish they would just have a X-Men 4 and bring back Cyclops and have a Mr. Sinister or Apocalypse story. I know ppl love Wolverine but he is my 2nd favorite character in X-men Cyclops has always been my number one. And him and his family are so the biggest driving force for the X-Men comics. How about a The Adventures of Cyclops and Phoenix movie that would be cool and they could introduce Cable.
Dmon - 10/16/2009, 1:37 PM
DMON @ My thoughts exactly CABLE & X4!!
LEEE777 - 10/16/2009, 1:38 PM
huh @teabag they both had Harrison Ford. And both roles were Iconic
Dmon - 10/16/2009, 1:39 PM
She's out of her bucket and talking out of her ass. She knows jack shit about what she's saying and she's just playing to the croud which is us fanboys. "We want it to stick as close to the source as possible"... now where have i heard that before??? FROM HER OWN GODDAMN MOUTH, no less. And i don't know why the hell she's talking as if she's not a part of Fox to begin with. "Oh i'm not the big bad guy here, they are. They guys who have me on payroll."
Shaman - 10/16/2009, 1:40 PM
"MAGNETO - Gonna be a deep good old thinking masterpiece movie!"

Lee, honestly, do you actually believe this? Because Fox is behind it.

Plus, why do you fully support it after you famously declare your hate for Wolverine on every X-Men related article? It makes no sense.

There is absolutely no need for a Magneto movie, no need in the slightest bit. Leave him be.

InTylerWeTrust82 - 10/16/2009, 1:40 PM
I'm just glad we get to see a X-men movie WITHOUT wolverine.
LexLuthor - 10/16/2009, 1:46 PM
They way they did the x men movies have put a stop to a excellent magneto movie.
SHHH - 10/16/2009, 1:46 PM
@ dmon

good man, cyclops is easily the best mutant character. he's the man.
CorndogBurglar - 10/16/2009, 1:47 PM
When did Blind Al and Weasel become Deadpool villains?

And now I can't decide if I want to release my X-Men 4 story this weekend or not.
THEHAWK - 10/16/2009, 1:50 PM
What do you guys think?
THEHAWK - 10/16/2009, 1:50 PM
if she's speaking the truth, then they are already screwing up wolverine 2 by giving Lord Shingen a "stick like" weapon. the guy was a samurai, he fought with a samurai sword.

how stupid does this sound to you guys?

"Mariko's father has this stick-like weapon, so Wolverine will have to fight against that."

oh no!!! don't bust me up with your "stick"!!!

lol
CorndogBurglar - 10/16/2009, 1:50 PM
If they make a Magneto movie can we get a Starjammers movie too. lol They are making all these spin off movies so why not
Dmon - 10/16/2009, 1:51 PM
Exactly..he is THE MAN. He represents THE MAN in every way;) Ah no, he has been ok..sometimes. I mainly just love to hate him. X Force have really utilized him well, completely making him an unbelievable c#nt in every respect, thats how he should always be, because when they try to make him in any way likable it doesn't work for me at all.
RorMachine - 10/16/2009, 1:51 PM
oh yeah she makes it sound just great on this end of things.
But then when we hit the theater it's a whole different story.

I am not listening to a single thing this loopy dame says. She's a bullshitter and a corprate shill and everything she touches turns into CRAP!
DarthMulder - 10/16/2009, 1:53 PM
None of those movies interest me at all.

I'm upset that there was no mention about a possible
X4.
Macksimus - 10/16/2009, 1:57 PM
"Occasionally the kids will be in class, but more often they'll be off on adventures. Which Professor X isn't too happy about!"

WTF!?! That sounds like a complete disaster already! I was hoping that we'd see a movie version of the X-Men's earliest adventures not some Harry Potter type reimagining!!!
JoshW - 10/16/2009, 1:59 PM
@ Corndog:
what she is referring to .. or rather, what her handlers/masters/owners have told her to refer to is the first battle Wolverine had against the Ninja Master and mafia boss Lord Shingen.

It was fought using Boken which are wooden practice swords, and not live steel. Wolverine lost the fight, but Lord Shingen spared his life because he considered him too disgracefull to bother killing.
DarthMulder - 10/16/2009, 1:59 PM
Dmon@ really must of missed that.....my point is GL and DP are both comic book characters from 2 of the major Book rivals.......Star wars and Indiana Jones have no simalarities in context with each other.....its like me saying Will Smith was in Bad Boys and Men in Black cus that has just as much relevance..lol!! ;)
teabag - 10/16/2009, 1:59 PM
a "stick like weapon" lol... The Bokken was the preferrential weapon for practice to the ancient Samurai for thousands of years. And in the hands of the right person a Bokken is incredibly deadly
DarthMulder - 10/16/2009, 2:03 PM
@teabag I did not like a lot of what she had to say but I think the point she was trying to make was that the same actor can play 2 "iconic" rolls at the same time. Because alot of ppl believe it cant be done.
Dmon - 10/16/2009, 2:05 PM
@Rorschach Well you might not like Cyclops but some of the best X-Men stories revolve around him and his family.
Dmon - 10/16/2009, 2:13 PM
TYLER @ Lol! ; D

SHAMAN @ Im totally with you on this one dude!!

HAWK @ I'd love to see your X4 this weekend but bottom line, its up to you, if you really want these new X-characters in it, then maybe you should tweak it, but its up to you man, either way im looking forward to reading it!
LEEE777 - 10/16/2009, 2:14 PM
@Tyler: Does deadpoool have the ability to chop bullets with swords? That's funny I thought his only power was extreme super healing. huh


DarthMulder - 10/16/2009, 2:16 PM
Oh, man! I can't believe some of the cr@p I'm reading.
Wolverine is THE BEST X-Man, IMO... Cyclops was always my least fav out of the X-Men. O.K. He was the leader of the original X-team... but never really deserved such a title.
I agree that Wolverine 2 has potential, but if Mariko's father isn't packing some serious "Japanese Steel", I'm going to be really pissed off!
Deadpool should be rebooted... but only to a set degree. I like Ryan as Wade, that mouthie manner he has is perfect.
NO. Magneto. Movie. Period!
I'm not going to bother with X-Men: First Class. Not worth the time to bash it.
Magicfingers - 10/16/2009, 2:16 PM
Dmon@ i understand what she is saying but i think its differant to seperate those characters then two superheros/Anti-heros from two conflicting companies :P
teabag - 10/16/2009, 2:19 PM
@DarthMulder- It is true. The Bokken is not only a learning tool, but also a Bad A** weapon in the right hands.
Magicfingers - 10/16/2009, 2:20 PM
Didn't read all the posts ... but if they are going to have Deadpool as he actually is in the comics, then he could laugh of the Wolvy Origins movie and/or make fun of it somehow. I think that would be hilarious.

Deadpool: "And don't get me started on how they treated my character in that sorry *ss excuse of a movie Wolervine: Origins. They all need *ss raped for that atrocity. And now, back to that fighting."

The most telling sentence in that WHOLE article was:
"I don't know that Fox will agree with all our decisions, but we'll see!"
And there is the punch line folks.
TheGuillotine - 10/16/2009, 2:20 PM
Well LEEE. These movies will have no effect on it, but I was planning on waiting until I was close to finishig X-5 before releasing it. I'm honestly worried about people being confused by it.
THEHAWK - 10/16/2009, 2:21 PM
lol You know one reason I like Cyclops better is bc of all the Wolvie fan zombies. Its just way to popular to be a Wolvie fan. Plus no Cyclops in X-Men you would have no great story arcs.
Dmon - 10/16/2009, 2:21 PM
HOWLLLLLLLLLLLL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

@Teabag.
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supermikesdog - 10/16/2009, 2:26 PM
HAWK @ Okay your call man, an hopefully no one will get confused, well if they do, you can set 'em straight lol!

Anyways sounds sweet an how close our you to finishing X5 then?? Soz if you told me before, cant remember dude?

Kudos though man, good stuff!




LEEE777 - 10/16/2009, 2:27 PM
We're going to come up with a new style of fighting. It's going to be awesome."


so where was that in the 3 x men movies?

It starts in the concentration camps and has Magneto coming out of there.

no shit. saw that in x men. nothing else? yeah they have done nothing on that film. lol. hilarious.


grif - 10/16/2009, 2:31 PM
@Leee. Well I just stared it. I would post X-4, except it is already 23 pages, and I have no pictures pick out or anything. I may post it later in the weekend. Or do you think it would be okay without pics?
THEHAWK - 10/16/2009, 2:31 PM
@Supermikesdog. Goddam Not this shit again!

Reveal yourself and let it drop. the real Supermike is long gone. I know I helped Teabag bury the body.
THEHAWK - 10/16/2009, 2:33 PM


:P

Hawk@ good times :P
teabag - 10/16/2009, 2:34 PM
X-4, Sentinels, Apocalypse, What the f**k is the problem? You can't do first class, it f**king destroys the movie time lines, Grrrrrrrrr! I hate Fox!!!!! They better get Wolverine 2 right
ASSASSIN666 - 10/16/2009, 2:35 PM
All of this sounds better than I thought it would.
Betty - 10/16/2009, 2:35 PM
Hah!

@TEa. I think it's time to go get the shovel again!
THEHAWK - 10/16/2009, 2:35 PM
Deadpool for sure and maybe X-Men: First Class. Other than that, not too interested in these. If they mess up Deadpool I will boycott all FOX's superhero films.
BmanHall - 10/16/2009, 2:36 PM
Hawk@ hell im getting my neutering kit :D
teabag - 10/16/2009, 2:36 PM
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supermikesdog - 10/16/2009, 2:37 PM
Yeah, Deadpool and Wolverine 2. The other ones can wait, maybe First Class. I think the Harry Potter reference was a little offbeat, but that would be a cool tone for the movie
Fartman - 10/16/2009, 2:40 PM
wow your a junkie too huh





:P
teabag - 10/16/2009, 2:41 PM
@Teabag. We gonna give him the Bob Barker treatment?
THEHAWK - 10/16/2009, 2:41 PM
HAH! I love it! When we're done, he'' be gone like Billy Mays!
THEHAWK - 10/16/2009, 2:42 PM
Oh for the love of... Is it REALLY that difficult to just build Deadpool from what he was in the movie to how he is usually? Because I don't see any real difficulty. Hell, there's alot of funny material you could build off from it if you looked hard enough.

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MovieTheaterLad - 10/16/2009, 2:43 PM
@ ror

see though, to me that constitutes a great character! if you find him to be such an unbelievable ass hole, then the writers are doing their jobs!!
CorndogBurglar - 10/16/2009, 2:48 PM
For the Deadpool article...i loved every word until.........." I don't know that Fox will agree with all our decisions, but we'll see!"
Thats what i hate...it's Marvel movie....Fox should have little or no say or else dont distribute the movie entiely!!! F u FOX!!!
Kes - 10/16/2009, 2:52 PM
We all need f**king therapy, more sooner then later. Teabag and Multi will be there to greet us.
ASSASSIN666 - 10/16/2009, 2:54 PM
Sounds like Singer will helm Wolverine 2, and they are on the right path with the story line and being true to Japanese culture. I'm excited about this!
Inohaku - 10/16/2009, 2:55 PM
Here's an idea: If you're going to try and hype up one of your upcoming X men movies, never compare it to the Harry Pothead movies...

...it's really that simple.
Macksimus - 10/16/2009, 2:56 PM
On that note, comparing Reynolds's involvement with both Deadpool and GL to Harrison Ford's Han Solo and Indy is pretty unfair.

Harrison Ford headlined in two movies that involve universes that are not in any way, shape, or form connected by any stretch of the imagination. They don't even fall under the same genre of movie. Reynolds on the other hand is going to be playing two superheroes. That is a very different thing altogether. You're headlining as a character that comes from a story that has already been established in another medium and such. It isn't fair when one person gets to play more than one of these characters because you've already established yourself as "the movie version of ____". Why should you get to claim another one? It's one thing if a character has multiple actors playing them over the years i.e. Batman or Superman, but having it the other way around gets REALLY irritating REALLY fast.
MovieTheaterLad - 10/16/2009, 2:56 PM
@Macksimus

What's wrong with comparing a story about teens in a special school where they're learning how to use their amazing powers while getting into adventures outside of class to Harry Potter?
MovieTheaterLad - 10/16/2009, 2:59 PM
Sounds like Singer will helm Wolverine 2, and they are on the right path with the story line and being true to Japanese culture. I'm excited about this!
Inohaku - 10/16/2009, 3:07 PM
MovieTheaterLad: Because the X-Men are nothing like Harry Potter and his friends and the X-Men (Harry,Ron and Hermionie) dont go out and have adventures much to the annoyance of Prof. X! (Dumbledore)

It just goes to show what a joke of a movie making company Fox is that they're already rebooting Deadpool! It just goes to show how little the writer and people at Fox obviously know about comic books!!!
JoshW - 10/16/2009, 3:07 PM
Wolverine 2 - I'll give it a chance but the first one was BOGUS

Deadpool - Again I can give it a chance.

First Class/Magneto - No thanks. First Class would require ignoring X1-X3. Magneto would just be a rehash.

I think there are other X-realted Marvel characters that would be much better projects. Some would not even have to have the link obvious. Longshot for example.
juggy4711 - 10/16/2009, 3:08 PM
@MovieTheaterLad

Yes, the 2 stories literally correlate with each other pretty closely. However, it's the idea that you are comparing the 2 that is the problem. The 2 movies appeal to different fanbases. Saying something like that kind of alienates your core fanbase IMO.
Macksimus - 10/16/2009, 3:09 PM
@ASSASSIN: Hey now, don't knock therapy! I love when my psychiatrist sits in that chair, I always get a panty shot :) He has the most muscular thighs
MultiPurposePoni - 10/16/2009, 3:12 PM
X-Men 4!
THEHAWK - 10/16/2009, 3:12 PM
@Multi. What the hell?
THEHAWK - 10/16/2009, 3:13 PM
Harry Potter is awesome. So I am definitely waiting for First Class. I could care less about the others.
akthunder - 10/16/2009, 3:18 PM
I just hated all 3 X-Men movies... my favorite character, Iceman, didn't do nothing... blah... just hope for the First Class to be more true to the source material.

I'm praying for the Deadpool movie to be decent... and I'm not that interested in a Magneto movie...
skull - 10/16/2009, 3:18 PM
@Josh, I dunno, because there are plenty of story elements and themes that can easily translate between the two franchises. I mean you just look at X-Men Evolution and you can already guess how they can plan out the movie. Although in hindsight, Evolution WOULD have been a better thing to compare it to than Harry Potter.

And I don't really think it's all that fair to say that these people don't know about the comics, because I'm reading this lady's statements and she's listing off a whole bunch of things that a comic vet would know. Not saying she reads them, but I think they at least know what they're talking about. Then again, just because they know about it doesn't mean they'll be allowed to implement it.

@Macksimus

I don't really think they'd try to alienate the core fanbase, since we all know they'll go out and see it regardless. I think what they're trying to do is bring in new potential fans.
MovieTheaterLad - 10/16/2009, 3:20 PM
Multi@ you too!! :P


Hey wheres the pooch gone...i bought him something....






:P
teabag - 10/16/2009, 3:22 PM
"@Tyler: Does deadpoool have the ability to chop bullets with swords? That's funny I thought his only power was extreme super healing. huh"

Dude, you're seriously going to nit-pick something like that?
InTylerWeTrust82 - 10/16/2009, 3:24 PM
MovieTheaterLad: Just compare Iron Man to X-Men 3. Jon Favreau clearly knows about the comic books which is why the movie is so authentic and faithful to the character whilst also realistic enough so that it a decent and enjoyable movie for non comic fans. However, look at Fox's movies - Elektra, Fantastic Four, X-Men 3, Wolverine, FF: Rise of the Silver Surfer, Wolverine Daredevil - all of these have recieved mediocre but mainly really negative reviews! As well as that, 99 of comic book fans hated these as they were nothing like the comic books and in many cases ruined the characters and replaced the actual origins with trash! And everything this woman says above is probably what she read on Wikipedia five minutes before because if she was a "comic vet" she wouldnt have allowed what happenned to Deadpool in Origins to ever occur in the first place! But sure, let omeone who knows nothing about comic books make the movies...we'll just end up with more movies like Superman Returns or X-Men 3!
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teabag - 10/16/2009, 3:49 PM
WTF is that!?
Magicfingers - 10/16/2009, 3:50 PM
@MovieTheatrelad

Yeah, I don't think they would TRY and alienate the core fanbase intentionally, but I also don't think the core fanbase likes it when the studios compare a future X-Men movie to the Harry Potter franchise.

...If anything, saying something like that is going to at least anger the core fanbase, who in reality are the only ones keeping up with this kind of news. It's not like casual fans will be finding and reading this article. Tidbits like this are for the hardcore fan boys.
Macksimus - 10/16/2009, 3:51 PM
@Josh

I think you're being very unrealistic.

First off, comparing Iron Man to a 3 movie in of itself is inherently unfair because of the curse that comes with 3 movies.

Secondly, you're saying that 99% of comic fans hated it? There's no way I can not read that and not think that you're just assuming that everyone agrees with your opinion nor can I not think that you have any real way of proving that. You are REEEEAAAALLY over exaggerating here.

I personally liked some of those movies you listed, thank you very much, so I don't really appreciate you playing off your opinion as it is some unanimous judgment decided by "99% of comic book fans" which I somehow missed. Maybe I was just too busy enjoying the movies and not being a total fanboi.
MovieTheaterLad - 10/16/2009, 3:52 PM
@teabag & THEHAWK- Need help to get rid of supermutts!? Use kryptonite Flea collar! lol
Magicfingers - 10/16/2009, 3:54 PM
@Macksimus

Is there like... a "beef" or something between X-Men fans and HP fans? Because I know plenty of people who are both so this whole vibe that there's somehow animosity between the fanbases perplexes me.

I mean, I could understand if it was between Harry Potter and Lord of the Rings or Twilight, but what reason would the X-Men fanbase get angry at a statement like that have? Because last time I checked there's no real stigma attached to Harry Potter like there is with something like Twilight or Naruto or something.
MovieTheaterLad - 10/16/2009, 3:58 PM
AND WILL SOMEONE PLEASE BAN THIS STUPID DOG! HE MAKES US LOOK BAD!


MovieTheaterLad - 10/16/2009, 4:01 PM
Woof WOOOF [Teabags grandkids!]

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supermikesdog - 10/16/2009, 4:02 PM
MovieTheaterLad: I think you'll find that the majority of fans and nearly every critic has given bad reviews to every Fox movie ever made so im not just assuming that everyone agrees with me. Though Daredevil was ok. And its not a case of being a total "fanboi" as you put it - even as a film fan and taking away my feelings about the comic book stuff there is no way that anyone can say that Elektra or Fantatic Four were well acted, made or directed! Im afraid that a movie that turns Marvel's greatest villain Dr. Doom into a man made of metal is an insult to comic book fans and a movie that is badly acted and has a messy plot is just a bad movie.
JoshW - 10/16/2009, 4:04 PM
@Movietheaterlad.

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supermikesdog - 10/16/2009, 4:05 PM
@MovieTheaterlad

No, I don't think there is a "beef" between X fans and HP fans. Like I said, literally speaking the two storylines corelate very closely. I understand why she chose that movie to make comparisons with, but I would think IMHO that many X fans would not be too pleased with that comparison.

...this is really just my opinion, bud. I honestly have no idea what X fans truly think about the Harry Potter films.

Personally, I thought a few of the Harry Potter movies were actually good. I'm not a huge fan, but I enjoyed some of them.

Macksimus - 10/16/2009, 4:06 PM
Oh, and anyone who has ever read an X-Men comic book whether its the original origin issues, the newer First Class series or the current pile of titles out there will know that Harry Potter and the X-Men are two very different thing that are two very different genres that should not be in any way like each other! I really like Harry Potter (the books more than the movies) but an X-Men movie should be based on that any more than the next Spider-Man movie should be based on Star Trek!
JoshW - 10/16/2009, 4:09 PM
MikesMutt@ im gonna have to think where i go with you...i could take the grandchildren thing personaly or continue with the joke of it all.....i need perspective...




teabag - 10/16/2009, 4:15 PM
@teabag & THEHAWK- Ok, you guys get the gear, I'll get the plastic sheets for the "clean up & transport". ;)
Magicfingers - 10/16/2009, 4:18 PM
@teabag- LMFAO.
Magicfingers - 10/16/2009, 4:19 PM
Magic@ lol.......theres only one Superdog on this site :)
teabag - 10/16/2009, 4:24 PM
I would love to see X-Men first class and Deadpool movies but not magneto, I hate to waste my time and money on the movie based on some villain.
Gatcha01 - 10/16/2009, 4:26 PM
@Josh

You're seriously going to include every FOX movie ever made? Really? Even if you're just including comic book movies, you're still saying that X2 was bad and that everyone hated it, which couldn't be farther from the truth. Yeah, you're being incredibly biased against Fox.

Oh yeah, and newsflash, Movie Doom is based off of Ultimate Doom, from the comics.
MovieTheaterLad - 10/16/2009, 4:32 PM
Ultimate Doom sucks...lol.......X men and X2 were given good reviews :P
teabag - 10/16/2009, 4:44 PM
@ mulder

good call man, i completely forgot they fought in the beginning and he used that, i just went and checked too lol. but the 2nd time he definately uses the sword!
CorndogBurglar - 10/16/2009, 4:46 PM
wtf is that! a dog?
SHHH - 10/16/2009, 4:47 PM
@ movietheatrelad

i agree with what you're saying, its hard to say how many comic fans liked what. i try to judge from the opinions of the majority of the people on this site. and then i kind of assume (right or wrong) that other sites similar to this one come to the same conclusions. i could be wrong, but josh might be doing the same thing. i can't speak for him though.

i do think the general consensus says that FOX murders these movies though. i personally liked X1 and i think X2 is one of the best CBM's yet. and that just tells me that the movies DO NOT need to follow the comics 100% in order to be very good movies.

whether you liked it or not, i think we can all agree that the X-Films could have followed the comics a LOT more. i think we can also all agree that we would like to see a much better representation than what we've been given. imagine an x-men movie made under the Marvel banner!!

i think thats where this comes from, even if you LOVED X2 (like me), we all know it could be so much more!
CorndogBurglar - 10/16/2009, 4:58 PM
I love the first 2 X-movies, and I think they were overall faithful, but I completely agree with Corndog that they could have been A LOT more faithful, especially in some of the characterizations of some characters.
InTylerWeTrust82 - 10/16/2009, 5:05 PM
Im gonna name my grandkids after supermikes honour

Car, Toon and Etwirk :P
teabag - 10/16/2009, 5:08 PM
Callum Blue should be the young Magneto.
Timerider84 - 10/16/2009, 5:14 PM
I could definitely see Blue as the Origin Mags. That's actually a very great pick.
InTylerWeTrust82 - 10/16/2009, 5:22 PM
@teabag- "theres only one Superdog on this site" lol
Very true. Will somebody go find Superdog so he can make this A**clown his b****!
Magicfingers - 10/16/2009, 5:23 PM
There is some crazy formatting on this page, some replies are on the left, some on the right...giving me a headache...

Anyway, not sure why some of you are freaking out over the mention of Harry Potter. It's also about a school where kids have powers and battle evil forces. And they clearly want a franchise out of it. At least Harry Potter is a better comparison than Gossip Girl, as it's the Gossip Girl creator who is writing it. No one wants Rogue to swan round saying XOXO. Get a grip kids!


TheGeekFiles - 10/16/2009, 5:31 PM
Magic@ yeah where is my lil Super buddy??? :)

teabag - 10/16/2009, 5:35 PM
WOLVERINE 2-There is a lot of Wolverine but This Might be different
FIRST CLASSS-The oriigin of the first X-Men but what would be their conflict??????????????
DEADPOOL-He was [frick]ed up in Wolverine Origins but Ryan Reynolds is Deadpool and if he is redeemed in the spinoff which means he can talk, hes not bald, swords do not protrude out his hands and he is like Mimic then I'm cool and he better be wearing his [frick]ing costume or I'll go [frick]ing crazy, he better have cancer then its cured but overall can't wait
MAGNETO-OH MY GOD CAN'T WAIT FOR THIS [frick] YEAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
MrAnonymous - 10/16/2009, 5:39 PM
i missed you..... welcome home :)
teabag - 10/16/2009, 5:41 PM
Well CDB, no arguing with that, if the writers intended Scotty boy to be a complete shithead boyscout c#nt, they did a hell of a job!

Dmon, thats your opinion isn't it? Personally I was never that fond of Claremont's Summers fetish at all. Some great stories no doubt, but i prefer lots more. Wolverine is the most popular X Man for a reason..hes [frick]ing shit cool! He was the reason i started reading comics, and he's a main reason why i continue. Such a huge, popular character tends to attract the best writers and stories. I just bought Mark Millar's final issue of Old Man Logan and i can honestly say we have Woloverine's TDKR now..its that good.

Josh, your Fox theory really doesn't hold water when you look at X2. It received 5 stars from practically every critic at the time and is considered one of th greatest CBM's of all time..yes, even without Wolvie in yellow spandex!! Who'd a thunk it?
RorMachine - 10/16/2009, 5:51 PM
Oh look a doggy

Hey pup, I got someone who wants to talk to yah!

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THEPHOENIX - 10/16/2009, 5:58 PM
I gave up on my beoloved X-Men getting done right by FOX years ago... So I will just stick to reading comics and watching the only decent representation of the X-Men in another media, the X-Men series from the 90's!
THEPHOENIX - 10/16/2009, 6:07 PM
Wow... I just actually watched Wolverine Origins for the second time. And what can I say, it's really that bad. So few things make any sense. [frick] it...! :(
Kyos - 10/16/2009, 6:58 PM
deadpool is all that's left. I could care less about any of the other x-tragedys. I hope deadpool will be good, although i know fox will try and find some way to mess it up for an extra buck.
supermarioworldE - 10/16/2009, 8:46 PM
X-Men First Class should be about the Original X-Men. Marvel Comics is now giving Cyclops a good treatment and even making him "Ruler of All Mutants". I think 20th Century Fox should properly handle Cyclops character so he can become the new Leading Man of the X-Men.

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SuperAsianGoku - 10/16/2009, 11:51 PM
Harry Potter and X-Men: First Class in the same sentence. That should be reason enough not to make it. Last thing I want to see is a Harry Potter version of X-Men. KILL ME NOW.
Number21 - 10/16/2009, 11:52 PM
McQuarrie has written and co-written some good films in the past. Then again, he also wrote "The Way Of The Gun" which I didn't think was a very good film. Still he's done enough good work to make this look like a good choice at the moment. He writes a lot of Bryan Singer's films so I'm hoping that this may indicate that Singer could return to direct his script. If that were the case then I'd say that Wolverine 2 is definitely looking good. I'll keep my fingers crossed for Singer's return.

As for everything that Lauren Shuler Donner said, it all sounds good but I don't want to get my hopes up. She made many of the same promises about being respectful of the source material and of delivering a high quality film With the first Wolverine film too. In the end, Wolverine 1 was about as far from the promises and assurances that she and others gave in the past so I'm a little unsure whether or not to believe in her this time. If she attaches Bryan Singer as the director than a lot of my doubts will certainly fade away. I hope they can pull it off but I guess we'll have to wait and see.

As for X-Men First Class, I'm definitely interested in it. I feel that some of the original character, like Cyclops, was mishandled in the original trilogy. It would be cool to go back in time to the original X-Men and see their story get justice. The only shame is that that they won't be able to use Angel because they already screwed up the timeline with that character by introducing him in X3. They have the same problem with Ice Man since he was introduced as a kid in the trilogy. With out them the original X-Men will feel incomplete. Still it will be cool to see Cyclops, Jean Grey, Beast, and Professor X as a team. There certainly are many of other X-Men to choose from that they could throw in to fill in the wholes I suppose. I definitely think that the series should be aimed at the same ages that the other X Men films were. Being youthful there is naturally going to be more humor to play with the characters but it should still remain comparable to the other films in drama and maturity.

I'm happy to hear that they are restarting Deadpool's story because the Wolverine movie totally butchered that character. I think that has potential to be a good flick. I'm not sure how I feel about the idea of Deadpool addressing the audience and looking into the camera. I love unconventional approaches to film but that always makes me think of Ferris Bueller's Day Off. It could totally work and be an interesting idea but it's going to be hard to pull off with out it looking odd. I'm totally game to see them try it though. Like I said, I really like breaking conventions and especially in these type of films. Super hero movies tend to get too weighed down by formula for the fear that mainstream audiences don't want something different. Hopefully, they will look at a film like The Dark Knight and see that audiences are ready for super hero films to go beyond the standard formula. TDK and Watchmen are great film to me because of the risks they took.

I'm really sorry to hear that the Magneto film is not going any where fast. I really think that they should reconsider making it a priority. Given the right approach, it could be a great film. I heard that screenwriter Sheldon Turner wanted to make a Magneto film that was a mix of The Pianist with X Men and that was an exciting concept to me. I have recently just read the graphic novel "X-Men: Magneto Testament" which I thought would be a very good jumping off board to the start of the film's story. It should be one of the darkest X-Men films and I really would like to see it on the screen. It's an interesting character with a lot of backstory to tell.
filmguy - 10/17/2009, 3:15 AM
I'm looking forward to the movies.... in 2020, 2030, and when I'm lucky I can see two more before I die of old age......
phenomenon - 10/17/2009, 5:30 AM
terraforming mars is quicker to be done, than making a superhero movie.......
phenomenon - 10/17/2009, 5:32 AM
Magneto is never gonna happen! Why in the name of sanity would any studio put out a movie that only a handful of comic fans would see? The movie wouldn't earn a dime for the studio, look at the amount of cameos Wolverine had. Wolverine, voted most popular superhero and the studio didn't have enough faith that he could carry the f**king movie by himself. What f**king chance does Magneto have? What are they going to do to promote this film so people see it? It's lose lose all the way around, terrible idea for a movie.
ASSASSIN666 - 10/17/2009, 5:49 AM
"we're in the X-Men world so you can't suddenly change the tone"

Haha what happened between X-2 and 3. First class sounds lame already if they want to do it they should go the smallville route and make it a series. I personally dont want to watch the antics of a young cyclops, yes thats how the franchise started but their grown now and thats how they appeared on the big screen. Just do X4 already.

I'm going to jump on the Fox hating band wagon here, their movies are lame. They messed up Doom so in order to rectify the mistake they have the Surfer attack him with plastic surgery even though he almost kills Johnny Storm. Until I know who's directing for sure I'm not getting excite coz Lexi ALexander and Gavin Hood really messed my day up.

Next thing you know Shia LeBouf is going to be in Gobots
breakUbatman - 10/17/2009, 6:25 AM
I think 1st class should be a tv show like smallvill..cus if the movie sux..than thats it..but u can alwayz make better more interesting episodes...
no gambit movie news ehh? not surprising...
deadpool deff sounds like they will do it right..as long as fox dosnt f**k it up...
Wolverine 2 sounds good...its gonna be weird seeing that movie on film...seeing that he is like the only mutant there..unless u count the million cameos....
we'll see
~X
XmutantX - 10/17/2009, 6:43 AM
most important part of this article, as quoted from the tidbit about Deadpool:

"I don't know that Fox will agree with all our decisions, but we'll see!"

:/
JeremyBentham - 10/17/2009, 7:46 AM
@ Joshw24

i agree, First Class like the Harry Potter films? and Magneto's a great character and villian, but his story isn't anything i'd pay to see, at least Origins had Logan team up with characters we knew
lilej2 - 10/17/2009, 12:30 PM
@breakUbatman-"Next thing you know Shia LeBouf is going to be in Gobots" HAHAHAHAHAHAHA The K-Mart Transformers, classic.
Magicfingers - 10/17/2009, 1:09 PM
ROR: Apart from X-1 and X-2, no other Fox movie has recieved good reviews (which is why i didnt include those two movies in my list of bad Fox CBM's!)

MovieTheaterLad: Ultimate Doom sucked! The whole concept of him being made of metal was idiotic and a joke when compared to the real Dr. Doom!
JoshW - 10/17/2009, 1:10 PM
1)The real Doom is an epic villain.
2)Ultimate Doom was ultimately lame.
3)Movie Doom was Ultimate Doom played by Julian McMahon.


When I'm reaching point 3 I begin to hear a choire singing in my head. It goes like this: "Reeeeeeheeeheeeheeeheeeheeeheeeheeeheeeheeeboot, please!"

I don't like the whole reboot hype, but you seriously can't continue the FF franchise with a ridiculous Doom, a ridiculous Galactus, and Jessica Alba as a classic blonde, blue eyed heroine.
Kyos - 10/17/2009, 4:26 PM
Damn I can't understand why everyone hated doom in the movies the only complaint I've heard is that he was made out of metal big deal imo the ff movies are truer to the source material than the xmen movies which they were alright but definitely not in the best cbm's category that list is for movies like nolans batmans ironman upcoming ironman 2 watchmen 300 spiderman 1 and 2 and yes fox messed up some things like galactus which was crazy cause I wanted to see him they could do so much and make him badass.....and I doubt that every fox movie has received bad reviews they have a lot of good ones but also bad ones pretty much like all movie studios you people are bein so biased about it its crazy and one more thing wolvie is cool but his villians are some of the best I mean there's daken,cyber,sabertooth, omega red, etc. The list goes on my fav character is sabertooth and I think that most of them are better than wolverine but I usually like the villians more than the heroes lol
SabretoothTiger - 10/17/2009, 9:55 PM
Sabretooth the problem is that Doom is meant to be like Darth Vader (or vice versa). Yes things get changed in movies but some stuff should be left the way its meant to be in the comics. The one thing I wanted from FF was fun, Torch and Thing were done right but everything else sucked.

You have a point not all Fox movies suck but their summer movies stink more often than not. Babylon AD, Street Fighter, XMO, Dragon ball, Jeniffers Body, Ice Age 3, Taken, Night at The Museum were all movies I watched this year guess how many I enjoyed?
breakUbatman - 10/18/2009, 5:41 AM
BreakUBatman@ooooh man dont even mention streetfighter here...that sh!t will get u killed lol...horrible...worst summer movie by far...alltho ive only seen 4 on ur list..i cant imagine any of the others being worse...I liked babylon AD prolly the best on ur list than XMO...and taken was ok...but way over hyped...
Doom was like darth a bit...but I think he was ok in the 1st movie...the 2nd movie was jus a mistake...it reminded me of ninja turtles 3...like a power rangers episode or sumthin...silver surfer was the only thing going 4 that movie..
~X
XmutantX - 10/18/2009, 6:17 AM
Could an x-men movie be as big at the box office without wolverine??? thats the real question...who would step up 2 be the lead role? 4 what they said about magneto and the de-aging cgi...wouldnt they hav 2 do that 4 stewart again? or would they replace him with a younger actor?..but wouldnt that conflict with the prof x we saw in XMO? so many unanswered questions make me think this movie wont get made...
~X
XmutantX - 10/18/2009, 7:37 AM
Anyone can step up either cyclops or gambit in my pinion dont forget that the casting is one of the main drawcards.
breakUbatman - 10/19/2009, 3:50 AM
gambit wasnt part of 1st class...
XmutantX - 10/19/2009, 6:00 AM

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