THE BATMAN - PART II Co-Writer Is Confident Long-Awaited Sequel Can "Top What Came Before"

THE BATMAN - PART II Co-Writer Is Confident Long-Awaited Sequel Can "Top What Came Before"

The Batman - Part II co-writer Mattson Tomlin has responded to a question about the long-awaited sequel on social media, and he seems confident that the movie will surpass the first film...

By MarkCassidy - Aug 29, 2025 12:08 PM EST
Filed Under: The Batman

The Batman director Matt Reeves recently announced that he had finally finished the script for his long-awaited sequel, which he penned alongside co-writer Mattson Tomlin.

The news came in the midst of concerns that the movie, which does appear to be officially titled The Batman - Part II for the time being, may have been cancelled or been hit with another significant delay, with speculation continuing to mount that DC Studios co-heads James Gunn and Peter Safran might be planning to either introduce a brand-new take on The Dark Knight in The Brave and The Bold, or fold Robert Pattinson's BatVerse take on the iconic hero into the DCU.

Gunn remains adamant that the plan is still to forge ahead with another actor for the DCU's Caped Crusader, but we are going to see at least one more instalment in Reeves' "Epic Crime Saga" as well, as the movie officially entered the pre-production phase earlier this month.

With so much anticipation building for such a long time after the first film, can The Batman -Part II possibly live up to expectations? Tomlin certainly seems confident that this sequel can surpass the highly-regarded original.

"The only worthwhile reason to make a sequel to anything is because there's a story burning to be told that you believe can top what came before," the writer said in response to a fan on X.

Gunn only recently got a chance to read the script after being busy with the Superman press tour, but all he would say when asked about the story is: "It's great!"

"It would be a consideration. We’d have to think about it," Gunn said when asked about the prospect of Pattinson staying on as the DCU's Batman during a recent Rolling Stone interview. "We’d have to think about it. It is not like we’ve never discussed it. I would never say zero [chance], because you just never know. But it’s not likely. It’s not likely at all."

It does seem a little odd that Gunn won't just flat out say "no, Pattinson will not be the DCU's Batman," and a lot of fans believe that he is simply covering all bases in case he does ultimately decide to keep the actor on as The Brave and the Bold's Caped Crusader. 

We still know very little about The Batman - Part II, but there have been rumors that plot rumors that Hush and/or Mr. Freeze could end up being the villains. There doesn't seem to be much to these reports, but based on previous comments from Reeves, there is a good chance that the movie will have a winter setting.

In addition to Pattinson, everyone from the first film (with the likely exception of Paul Dano's Riddler) is expected to return, along with some characters from The Penguin.

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DarthOmega
DarthOmega - 8/29/2025, 12:04 PM
Shouldn't be too hard. Other than being a beautifully shot film, the rest was meh.
McMurdo
McMurdo - 8/29/2025, 1:44 PM
@DarthOmega - yep. And if there really was a story "burning to be told" then it wouldnt have taken 12 years for Reeves to write it.
DarthOmega
DarthOmega - 8/29/2025, 5:31 PM
@McMurdo - Didn't like the suit. Didn't like Battinson. Didn't like the story. Didn't like the soundtrack. It was all so forgettable. Without Greig Fraser as the cinematographer it wouldn't have been worth the watch once you get over the fact it's a new Batman film
McMurdo
McMurdo - 8/30/2025, 6:54 PM
@DarthOmega - you ain't wrong bro. Fraser hard carried the movie. I cant think of another film rn that is so damned dependent on its cinematographer.
slickrickdesigns
slickrickdesigns - 8/29/2025, 12:05 PM
I liked the first one and it seems like they didn’t do anything they can’t top on the next one.
Urubrodi
Urubrodi - 8/29/2025, 12:09 PM
Well the bar set by the first one was quite low so I hope so.
JacobsLadder
JacobsLadder - 8/29/2025, 12:22 PM
@Urubrodi - for real.
Urubrodi
Urubrodi - 8/29/2025, 1:00 PM
@JacobsLadder - Honestly it’s nice to see the comments so far are not glazing over the first one. I remember when the first one came out some users here were saying it was on the same level or better than Nolan’s Batman.
JacobsLadder
JacobsLadder - 8/29/2025, 3:29 PM
@Urubrodi - it was not. it's not a top 5 Batman movie to me at all.
Humperdoo
Humperdoo - 8/29/2025, 4:26 PM
@Urubrodi - Anything is better than Dark Knight Rises.
DarthOmega
DarthOmega - 8/29/2025, 5:27 PM
@Urubrodi - I got tons of shit for saying it was mid. Some of those same people changed their tune once more people started saying it
noname
noname - 8/29/2025, 11:42 PM
@Urubrodi - Me too. I'm happy to see people have stopped gushing over the film. It was just okay. I found Pattison's version to be a "limp dicked version of the Batman character." I still feel that way.

I would've been fine with this film being cancelled. Not interested in Pattison. The Penguin is the best thing to come out of this.
JacobsLadder
JacobsLadder - 8/29/2025, 12:22 PM
The first one is so overrated. The last third is a slog to get through. The best part of the movie is the spinoff show it spawned. The Penguin is the best comic book anything I've seen in a loooooooong time.
lazlodaytona
lazlodaytona - 8/29/2025, 1:03 PM
@JacobsLadder - I so absolutely agree with you. I don't get it. The Batman brought NOTHING new to the table. Realism? Already done. Grittiness? Already Done. Grounded? Already done. No expansion of the lore, a Batman that moved stiff as a surfboard, showed up in front of a lot of people while not sticking to the shadows, and the Batmobile was lame.

The most overrated film. You are correct, Penguin was an awesome show.
TheVisionary27
TheVisionary27 - 8/29/2025, 1:35 PM
@lazlodaytona - The Batman is well crafted. Good performances, production value is decent. I really like the score and the action is good but it’s just long. It drags, too many subplots, the riddler lacked genuine presence and his arc is kinda weak tbh. Patterson is good but unfortunately it’s just another reboot. It’s Batman fatigue now.

The Nolan trilogy pushed the boundaries of storytelling, narrative and filmmaking with the IP and the Batman franchise. Affleck & Synder gave us “Frank miller & justice league Batman. Matt reeves makes a good effort but everything that came before was better and more satisfying. I’ll see the next instalment but if it never happens I’ll move on pretty easily.
McMurdo
McMurdo - 8/29/2025, 1:47 PM
@lazlodaytona - it was supposed to bring us that detective angle...but Reeves couldn't write him as a smart detective.
ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 8/29/2025, 6:25 PM
@TheVisionary27 - The one thing we've never had is a Batman like this that can also operate as part of a shared universe.
Matt Reeves set up the world well. It could have gone a whole other way where people hated it and called it sacrilegious to the lore. Instead we got a world that feels very Gotham from the comics and a Batman that feels dark and gritty yet superheroic and hopeful too.

To take a Batman from a trilogy with these kinds of sophisticated production values and put him in Avengers style movies in the DCU is the one thing we've never had.

Like if we'd had Christian Bale in the DCEU. Sounds wrong, but this Batman would easily pull that off quite well imo.
noname
noname - 8/29/2025, 11:44 PM
@JacobsLadder - FACTS
noname
noname - 8/29/2025, 11:47 PM
@McMurdo - The "detective work" was lame. I've seen Batman solve better mysteries in (ironically) "The Batman" (2004)
TheVisionary27
TheVisionary27 - 8/30/2025, 7:09 AM
@ObserverIO - Matt Reeves made a good Batman film. I like it for what it is and I enjoyed it but my issue? It’s existence as a reboot and the timing of its release. It came too soon after Affleck’s DCEU Batman. It feels like just another Batman film at this point. There’s potential for something greater but the film feels familiar kinda episodic like a James Bond or Spiderman reboot.

My point is the film replenishes the same troupes and cliches that you’d expect from a Batman film. Dark, gritty, neo-noir style, romance with Catwoman, an elusive yet cerebral antagonist (riddler) a young or inexperienced Batman, grounded in tone, charismatic villains (Penguin) a very competent Alfred and a very reliable Gordon. Seen it all before.
lazlodaytona
lazlodaytona - 8/30/2025, 11:14 AM
@TheVisionary27 - I'll see the next one too ... but only because The Penguin brought interest to me.

The score I can't agree with you on. The main theme is literally a droning on of repetitive minor 3rds drop. Nothing artistic.
It's why Danny Elfman's theme is still widely regarded. It's melody construction is perfect.
lazlodaytona
lazlodaytona - 8/30/2025, 11:21 AM
@McMurdo - 100% correct
TheVisionary27
TheVisionary27 - 8/30/2025, 2:04 PM
@lazlodaytona - Score, soundtrack, music is outside of my forte when it comes to filmmaking. I’m not saying it’s the best batman theme but I dig it for what it is. It comes to life during the car chase sequence.
lazlodaytona
lazlodaytona - 8/30/2025, 4:24 PM
@TheVisionary27 - I understand. I didn't mean to put down your thoughts.
Just my musician-ear talking

You are correct. The music definitely was good for the scenes.
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 8/29/2025, 12:32 PM
Certainly a fair & true statement imo…

I am a big fan of the first one (aswell as The Penguin) so it’s gonna be tough for this to top that but I think it could.

Hopefully we start getting casting news soon!!.
lazlodaytona
lazlodaytona - 8/29/2025, 12:42 PM
"Top What Came Before?!"

We and the studios better expect part 2 to top the first one. It came out at the end of billion-dollar guaranteed superhero movies and it only grossed like 720million+

That doesn't bode well for this next one.
DS616
DS616 - 8/29/2025, 3:34 PM
@lazlodaytona - "it *only* grossed 720 million"

Literally *any* movie making that much post-pandemic is an objective mass-success, let alone a *3 hour long* slow-paced Batman movie that didn't remotely cater to the giant kids or family demographics the way nearly every single Batman movie before had. It was David Fincher's Seven with Batman as the lead detective, that genre has never made billions because the amount of people who would go see it is demonstrably not enough to make over a billion dollars.
SpiderParker
SpiderParker - 8/29/2025, 4:38 PM
@lazlodaytona - That movie was hugely successful. It came out while pandemic was still ongoing and performed really well.
JacobsLadder
JacobsLadder - 8/30/2025, 6:15 AM
@SpiderParker - the pandemic that ended overnight? or ended after No Way Home? or ended after the money dried up? It didn't perform that well.
lazlodaytona
lazlodaytona - 8/30/2025, 11:26 AM
@DS616 - um, Christopher Nolan's Dark Knight trilogy would like to discuss your "not catering to kids" stance.

And it's not just "any" movie. Because of Nolan's films Batman is expected to make that billion+ mark. It's freaking BATMAN.
lazlodaytona
lazlodaytona - 8/30/2025, 11:31 AM
@SpiderParker -

For a normal movie? Sure.

For a Batman movie? Eh ...
lazlodaytona
lazlodaytona - 8/30/2025, 11:32 AM
@SpiderParker - No Way Home came out during the pandemic as well.
It made a billion+.
DS616
DS616 - 8/30/2025, 2:25 PM
@lazlodaytona - "Christopher Nolan's Dark Knight trilogy would like to discuss your "not catering to kids" stance."

Kids and families factually packed cinemas for every movie in the dark knight trilogy, which is exactly what I said. Yet they clearly didn't turn up in droves for Reeves' objectively adult-catering Batman movie. Do you also believe 8 year olds and families watched The Penguin on HBO Max together?

"Because of Nolan's films Batman is expected to make that billion+ mark. It's freaking BATMAN."

Have you been in cryo-sleep since 2020? Barely *anything* is making a billion dollars anymore, let alone the (once again) 3 hour long, slow-paced, crime thriller. How many movies like Fincher's Seven, The Bone Collector or Along Came a Spider have grossed over a billion dollars?

The sequel could get even better reviews/word-of-mouth and it's still not going to do anywhere near a billion for the exact same reasons Gunn's Superman and Fantastic Four didn't despite widespread acclaim. The "effortless billion dollar movie" is inarguably over with unless it's one of the incredibly rare exceptions to the rule, which the adult-catering three hour long crime thriller Batman movie factually isn't.
lazlodaytona
lazlodaytona - 8/30/2025, 4:28 PM
@DS616 - that's a lot of blabbing about nothing...
except that you are wrong and am trying to failingly prove you are correct.

Pathetic really.
DS616
DS616 - 8/30/2025, 5:29 PM
@lazlodaytona - LOL genius non-response to (yet another) endless list of inarguable facts you embarrassingly pathetic dork.

Oh and by the way...

"EXCEPT that you are wrong"
"you AM trying to"

HAHAHAHA f'n christ almighty, you "am" objectively an illiterate dipshit.
DS616
DS616 - 8/30/2025, 5:33 PM
@lazlodaytona - Because a billion+ dollars worth of CHILDREN went to see No Way Home, shyte for brains LOL keep miserably failing at Basic Common Sense & Obvious Historical Facts 101
lazlodaytona
lazlodaytona - 8/31/2025, 4:02 AM
@DS616 -

what a pu$$y. he blocked me
Matchesz
Matchesz - 8/29/2025, 1:05 PM
Excited
harryba11zack
harryba11zack - 8/29/2025, 1:07 PM
thats......really not a difficult achievement
HashTagSwagg
HashTagSwagg - 8/29/2025, 1:34 PM
Not the highest bar to top. Aim for what that first trailer promised but failed to deliver.
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