"People Don't Care Now": New Report Details Damage Done To Marvel, STAR WARS, And Pixar By Disney+

"People Don't Care Now": New Report Details Damage Done To Marvel, STAR WARS, And Pixar By Disney+

The launch of Disney+ brought the likes of The Mandalorian and WandaVision into our homes, but several years after the platform launched, the damage done to Disney's biggest brands is undeniable...

By JoshWilding - Aug 04, 2025 11:08 AM EST
Filed Under: Disney
Source: The Wrap

Last month, Marvel Studios President Kevin Feige talked candidly about how Disney+ has "devalued" the MCU brand. As he put it, "It was just too much. It was a big company push. And it doesn’t take too much to push us to go. There was a mandate that we were put in the middle of."

Disney wanted more content for its newly launched streaming platform, and Marvel Studios jumped at the chance to finally bring characters like Moon Knight and She-Hulk to our screens. The mandate also allowed Feige to turn the spotlight to supporting players, Loki, the Scarlet Witch, a new Captain America, and more. 

Things started well, but interest has waned in both the studio's movies and TV shows. That's led to fewer ticket sales, and according to The Wrap, a loss of 700,000 subscribers for Disney+ in the first quarter of 2025.

This comes from a piece exploring what Disney's streaming expansion has done to Marvel, Star Wars, and Pixar, with one producer with franchise experience telling the trade, "Given the quality of the Marvel Disney+ output has been incredibly mediocre, it’s dragged the entire brand down and diluted its creative. People don’t care now."

Another marketing executive noted, "When you went to a Star Wars movie, it used to be special. But there’s a difference between let’s have a movie every four years versus let’s have three shows on the air all the time and have a movie every year."

Lucasfilm appears to have learned from that, at least, because aside from Ahsoka season 2, there are no other Star Wars TV shows on the way (several movies, starting with The Mandalorian and Grogu, are heading to theaters, though). 

Back to Marvel, and Dave Gonzales, the co-author of MCU: The Reign of Marvel Studios, shared, "I do think that it has eroded the branding. All of the sub-brands have been eroded. They were finally getting to do what they wanted to do – put everything in development."

"Marvel remade how they made franchise movies but they thought they could do the same thing with television – you can’t," added Gonzales. "They think they’re more nimble than they actually are." He later explained that by making TV shows like movies, series such as WandaVision were costing hundreds of millions of dollars. 

Pixar has suffered most, but even with a handful of live-action Disney movies like Lady and the Tramp and Pinocchio premiering on Disney+, Walt Disney Studios and Disney Animation have remained largely unaffected. Helping matters, of course, is that those brands have not been as heavily pushed on people across Disney+ over the past six years since Disney+ launched. 

Now, it's down to Disney to rehabilitate its biggest brands. As noted, that's already started with Star Wars, while Marvel Studios is attempting to do the same; Thunderbolts* and The Fantastic Four: First Steps have faced issues at the box office, but both received positive reviews and the plan from next year is for us to get one or two TV shows a year that are largely unconnected to what's happening in theaters. 

Now, we wait to see if it works or whether Disney's biggest brands have been damaged by streaming beyond repair.

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MisterBones
MisterBones - 8/4/2025, 11:37 AM
Duh. Corporate mandates like this often ruin everything. It turned fans into "students" required to do way too much homework.

They are going to feel this for a while.
ReverseFlasher
ReverseFlasher - 8/4/2025, 12:17 PM
@MisterBones - i agree they are ruining our favorite IP but I also feel disney isnt exactly hurting from this, and we shouldn’t misinterpret that 700,000 subscribers lost — they have 124 million subscribers so thats literally less than one percent lost. And with a subscriber paying 10 per month, theyre making over 14 billion per year. Thats like disney releasing one billion dollar blockbuster movie EVERY MONTH. And oh yeah disney doesnt split the revenue with theaters. So i don’t think this shit is going away anytime soon.
Gabimaru
Gabimaru - 8/4/2025, 12:34 PM
@MisterBones - yet some shills here will still defend these mediocre shows and movies. "I liked it" yeah but the general audience don't. And doesn't care and that hurt the star wars and MCU brand thanks to all your low standards
rkshuttleworth
rkshuttleworth - 8/4/2025, 2:08 PM
@Gabimaru - lol, you guys on social media whine about every show and influence others with reviews or whatever. The whole thing is subjective. It's just like how some people seemed to like Wandavision but I didn't really care for it.
Goldboink
Goldboink - 8/4/2025, 2:21 PM
@ReverseFlasher -
Good point. These properties have huge ongoing value after the initial box office.
ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 8/4/2025, 3:05 PM
@Gabimaru - We're basically enablers.
Typhoon20
Typhoon20 - 8/4/2025, 4:41 PM
@ReverseFlasher - Revenue is not profit lol.
RolandD
RolandD - 8/5/2025, 2:09 AM
@Typhoon20 - Disney’s profits in 2024 was $32;663 billion, almost a 10% increase from 2023. That’s not revenue. That’s profit. Part of the increase in profits was Disney+ turning a profit for the first time. Once again, profit, not revenue.
MaxPaint
MaxPaint - 8/4/2025, 11:39 AM
"When you went to a Star Wars movie, it used to be special. But there’s a difference between let’s have a movie every four years versus let’s have three shows on the air all the time and have a movie every year"


Oh really?
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Urubrodi
Urubrodi - 8/4/2025, 11:39 AM
It's incredible how it took so much time for them to realize something so obvious. I guess with these big companies they only listen when it hits their wallet.
theprophet
theprophet - 8/4/2025, 11:40 AM
Too many pointless projects like Agatha, ironhart and and some movies shouldn't have been made it became too much I remember having 2 3 mcu projects a year was enough and the interest was high.
RolandD
RolandD - 8/5/2025, 2:15 AM
@theprophet - Agatha was in the top ten across 56 countries. I think what you mean to say is that you were not interested in it. I had doubts about it myself but the trailers bought my interest and I really enjoyed it.
theprophet
theprophet - 8/5/2025, 7:52 AM
@RolandD - even if that's the case honestly I thought it was pointless just piggy backing the Wandavision success, could of gone without it and could use that budget for a more important project
RolandD
RolandD - 8/5/2025, 4:27 PM
@theprophet - Okay, of course. We all have our opinions.
DocSpock
DocSpock - 8/4/2025, 11:40 AM

It is beyond repair as far as current cost structures work.

They have to figure out how to make high quality movies that only cost a max of about 150 million dollars to produce.

If they can't figure out how, it will be a slow painful death.

the same is true for DC.
bobevanz
bobevanz - 8/4/2025, 1:15 PM
@DocSpock - If I was in charge, I'd end Disney+ and keep Hulu since they own both. Then they could drip feed Disney content onto that platform. It's a double edged sword because parents have Disney+ for the little rascals, but this would be the only way to fix that issue. They'll never do it, but it would work.
TRexx21
TRexx21 - 8/7/2025, 12:15 AM
@bobevanz - Great thing you're not in charge lol
marvel72
marvel72 - 8/4/2025, 11:41 AM
A lot of the users on this site have been saying this for years but have been told we're wrong.

Guess what I told you so.
MaxPaint
MaxPaint - 8/4/2025, 11:51 AM
@marvel72 - This. They said it wasn't about quality but it was about complaints from "the toxic fanbase".
YouIknowiamsexy
YouIknowiamsexy - 8/4/2025, 1:14 PM
@marvel72 - Bruh when I said the F4 won't make over $500M WW I was called every name in the book for SIMPLY saying that. You can't say anything remotely negative without some how offending some fanboys. But when it really does bomb, they move the goal post.
ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 8/4/2025, 3:09 PM
@MaxPaint - It's neither the toxic fans or the quality. It's the enablers and the quantity.

They need to reboot hard.
marvel72
marvel72 - 8/5/2025, 11:48 AM
@YouIknowiamsexy - Because they are in denial,they can't handle the truth.

The facts are right in front of them,the days of phases 1-3 are long gone.
TRexx21
TRexx21 - 8/7/2025, 12:16 AM
@MaxPaint - its a bit of both lol
TRexx21
TRexx21 - 8/7/2025, 12:18 AM
@ObserverIO - no its just society, people aren't as frivolous with their money like they were 5-10 years ago. And yes streaming has definitely killed the movie going experience, but that's also not a bad thing. They simply need to learn how to make quality content on a cheaper budget.
Android
Android - 8/4/2025, 11:44 AM
I've been saying this since eternals ...glad to see the big boys behind the brand itself are admitting it .
MrSocko
MrSocko - 8/4/2025, 11:45 AM
Going back to non-cosmic storylines like what’s being produced in Spider-Man Brand New Day is going to put Marvel back in the win column
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 8/4/2025, 11:50 AM
@MrSocko - huh?

I don’t think the type of story being told has ever been a or the issue.
SonOfAGif
SonOfAGif - 8/4/2025, 11:58 AM
@MrSocko - Thunderbolts* and Fantastic 4 have done that. While they aren't box office juggernauts, They definitely proved that Marvel is back to quality over quantity. Even the CGI has greatly improved.
Typhoon20
Typhoon20 - 8/4/2025, 4:51 PM
@SonOfAGif - If Thunderbolts and F4 is your definition of quality MCU is doomed. Yall need to have better standards. To me, Superman , Thunderbolts and F4 are mediocre to decent at best movies. That's why almost all of them bombed at the BO. Even Supes 2nd most popular DC character can't make more than 600. It's just enough to cover the cost but if your top 2 character can't surpass 700m you're in trouble with the genre. For the record I enjoyed Gunns Superman ,but then again i enjoyed every Supes movie even if i find them mediocre except the OG. I recently rewarded XMen 2 and holy sh it's darn good. Aint seen nothing lately that even comes close.
SonOfAGif
SonOfAGif - 8/4/2025, 5:53 PM
@Typhoon20 - So because you didn't like them, Your opinion is gospel? Superman didn't bomb in the box office. Secondly and I have said this multiple times that Disney is dominating the VOD and home release market with each of their releases. The economy is not doing well combined with the fact that consumers spend less waiting for a movie to release at home rather than going out to watch it in a theater. A Large Popcorn and a Large drink cost $26 at a movie theater. A family of 4 would spend $52 on two popcorns and two drinks if they shared them combined with $52 in basic movie tickets. That's $104 for a family of four. Do you think consumers can afford to blow $104 weekly on movies in this economy?
RolandD
RolandD - 8/5/2025, 1:47 AM
@SonOfAGif - Stop confusing people with logic and facts. It hurts their heads.
RolandD
RolandD - 8/5/2025, 2:21 AM
@MrSocko - Infinity War and Endgame-cosmic storylines and two of their biggest successes. That said, I think Brand New Day is likely to be a win.
RolandD
RolandD - 8/5/2025, 2:45 AM
@Typhoon20 - Surely you have noticed that the entire box office is down. It’s not a CBM thing.
JFerguson
JFerguson - 8/4/2025, 11:45 AM
I think Mando S2.5-S3 and Secret invasion were the worst Disney+ offerings from each brand
ReverseFlasher
ReverseFlasher - 8/4/2025, 12:22 PM
@JFerguson - book of boba fett would like a word w you
Gabimaru
Gabimaru - 8/4/2025, 12:36 PM
@JFerguson - ironheart and agatha takes the cake
JacobsLadder
JacobsLadder - 8/4/2025, 12:49 PM
@ReverseFlasher - awful. I couldn't believe what I was watching. The Bounty Hunter Wars trilogy was sitting right there, waiting to be made. But no. We got......that.
JFerguson
JFerguson - 8/4/2025, 1:33 PM
@ReverseFlasher - do you mean mando S2.5?
RolandD
RolandD - 8/5/2025, 1:50 AM
@Gabimaru - You know that’s just an opinion. Agatha was great IMHO and that’s not just my opinion. I also had doubts about it before i watched it. It just didn’t suit you. Ironheart didn’t thrill me but I am excited about the Mephisto prospects.
Globaltravel
Globaltravel - 8/4/2025, 11:46 AM
I very much care!! I still watch every single show and movie in theaters!!
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