THE FANTASTIC FOUR: A Breakdown Of Scenes Cut From The Movie (Including Red Ghost's Surprise Role) Revealed

THE FANTASTIC FOUR: A Breakdown Of Scenes Cut From The Movie (Including Red Ghost's Surprise Role) Revealed

A full breakdown of scenes that didn't make it into the final cut of The Fantastic Four: First Steps has been revealed, and that includes moments with Red Ghost, The Thing, H.E.R.B.I.E., and much more...

By JoshWilding - Aug 24, 2025 03:08 PM EST
Filed Under: Fantastic Four

Marvel Studios seemingly went to great lengths to ensure The Fantastic Four: First Steps would clock in at less than 2 hours. However, as with many MCU movies, several scenes were shot that didn't make it into the final cut.

A few of these will likely be included with the eventual Blu-ray release, while others are likely unfinished and will remain forever locked away in Marvel Studios' Burbank-based headquarters. 

Reliable leaker @Cryptic4KQual has shared a breakdown of many moments from The Fantastic Four: First Steps that we didn't get to see in theaters (it appears this intel was gleaned from test screenings). For starters, they confirm that the reboot originally opened with the ABC special celebrating Marvel's First Family, not Reed finding out about Sue's pregnancy. 

Watching the movie, it's obvious that the sequence was meant to occur before the team's family dinner. As for why Reed needed iodine, the heroes were set to have vanished by the time the curtain opened, so they could go and deal with Red Ghost. 

"There was quite a bit more to Red Ghost and his apes," the leaker explains. "Red Ghost set up diversions to keep the [Fantastic Four] away so that he could steal their ship, but Reed figured that out. He hurries back to the Baxter building, where he fights a bunch of the apes and then stops Red Ghost."

Later in the movie, "There was supposed to be a scene of Reed visiting Red Ghost in prison and offering him a work release program, followed by a scene of him and his baboons building one of the teleportation bridges."

Other highlights include Sue visiting Mole Man in Subterranea when he considers starting a revolt, and it's said that his scene in the Baxter Building was added during reshoots. A few dialogue scenes were cut from the team's headquarters, as was an exchange between Galactus and the heroes when he realised they'd laid a trap for him in Times Square. 

Another sequence that sounded like a potential highlight saw "Ben [go] out for a night stroll and gets heckled at by some guys who run past him. He later finds H.E.R.B.I.E.'s mangled body in that back alley they ran from. He brings H.E.R.B.I.E. home, and the others are in shock."

So, there's nothing too major, but we definitely lost some cool moments from The Fantastic Four: First Steps. The movie was a critical success, but leaving John Malkovich on the cutting room floor was certainly a choice!

Set against the vibrant backdrop of a 1960s-inspired, retro-futuristic world, Marvel Studios' The Fantastic Four: First Steps introduces Marvel’s First Family—Reed Richards/Mister Fantastic (Pedro Pascal), Sue Storm/Invisible Woman (Vanessa Kirby), Johnny Storm/Human Torch (Joseph Quinn) and Ben Grimm/The Thing (Ebon Moss-Bachrach) as they face their most daunting challenge yet.

Forced to balance their roles as heroes with the strength of their family bond, they must defend Earth from a ravenous space god called Galactus (Ralph Ineson) and his enigmatic Herald, Silver Surfer (Julia Garner). And if Galactus’ plan to devour the entire planet and everyone on it weren’t bad enough, it suddenly gets very personal.

Also appearing are Natasha Lyonne as Rachel Rozman, Paul Walter Hauser as Harvey Elder/Mole Man, Sarah Niles as Lynne Nichols, and Mark Gatiss as Ted Gilbert. John Malkovich was set to play Red Ghost, but was cut due to time constraints.

The Fantastic Four: First Steps is directed by Matt Shakman from a screenplay by Josh Friedman and Eric Pearson and Jeff Kaplan & Ian Springer.

The movie is now playing in theaters.

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lazlodaytona
lazlodaytona - 8/24/2025, 3:47 PM
I like butter popcorn.
DocSpock
DocSpock - 8/24/2025, 4:14 PM
@lazlodaytona -

You're not still pulling that popcorn surprise bit are you?
Gabimaru
Gabimaru - 8/24/2025, 4:32 PM
@lazlodaytona - josh in every F4 article "here are some cool scenes from the movie please watch f4 in theaters please"
lazlodaytona
lazlodaytona - 8/24/2025, 6:14 PM
@DocSpock - 🤔 i dunno 🤷🏻‍♂️
lazlodaytona
lazlodaytona - 8/24/2025, 6:15 PM
@Gabimaru - yeah. There is definitely some irony to it
RolandD
RolandD - 8/24/2025, 9:45 PM
@DocSpock - Perhaps too young to know. Back when Mickey Rourke had a normal face.
DocSpock
DocSpock - 8/24/2025, 10:04 PM
@RolandD -

LOL!
Malatrova15
Malatrova15 - 8/24/2025, 3:48 PM
WOW...another butchered mess, why Feige do this to His own movies? Does he really think people Is stupid and Get confused if the plot Is not a straight líne
asherman93
asherman93 - 8/24/2025, 4:13 PM
@Malatrova15 - I wouldn't call this film "butchered", so much as I'd call it "lean". That's not an inherently bad thing, but I think a few more scenes of character and world-building couldn't have hurt.
Malatrova15
Malatrova15 - 8/24/2025, 4:48 PM
@asherman93 - maybe but im a cynic
DraculaX
DraculaX - 8/25/2025, 3:18 AM
@Malatrova15 - trying to shorten the runtime to get Gen z to the theaters because they have the attention span of a goldfish
AllsGood
AllsGood - 8/24/2025, 3:50 PM
Looks great

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Gambito
Gambito - 8/24/2025, 3:51 PM
20 more minutes was all they needed, was that really way too long? Matt Shankman won’t come back to this shitahow
Laridian
Laridian - 8/24/2025, 4:08 PM
@Gambito - Matt Shackman wouldn't have a career without Marvel and Kevin, so I think he's pretty happy to work on another project as soon as possible.
RolandD
RolandD - 8/24/2025, 9:52 PM
@Gambito - Matt Shakman will do fine. The movie was well received. That’s a really dramatic take.
Laridian
Laridian - 8/24/2025, 11:05 PM
@RolandD - People pretending Shakman is mad at Feige for something is sending me. People really have no idea what they're talking about on this site.
JustAWaffle
JustAWaffle - 8/24/2025, 3:57 PM
They should have kept it in imo. It was good already and I think that would have just added to the fun.
Ojeet78
Ojeet78 - 8/24/2025, 4:03 PM
Wow, this could have given the movie an edge. It did feel too clean and sanitised at times. Maybe the heel turn from the crowd could have felt believable as well. In an otherwise detailed and visually delightful universe, the crowd was the weakest link.
Laridian
Laridian - 8/24/2025, 4:09 PM
@Ojeet78 - The crowd was the weakest link? Damn, people will complain about anything they can find.
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 8/24/2025, 4:23 PM
@Ojeet78 - ehhh , it felt believable to me

Both this and Superman had the public turn on the heroes and I felt it made sense to have that and then the turn back because people can be fickle.

Also I do think the clean and sanitized feel worked for the film since it is almost a utopia that the FF have helped create.
Ojeet78
Ojeet78 - 8/24/2025, 4:48 PM
@Laridian - Not complaining at all. Loved the movie and all the visual flair. Its just that the people really didnt invoke any feelings from me. One minute they were like " Yay , Fantastic Four" and the next they were like why won't you give your child to Galactus, and then back to "Yay , Fantastic Four".
Extremely comical in my opinion. I refuse to believe people would really react like that . Raimi's Spider-Man is a masterclass in background characters.
Ojeet78
Ojeet78 - 8/24/2025, 4:52 PM
@TheVisionary25 - Public turning can make for great storytelling but it has to be earned and not feel surface level. Sadly it felt like that for both films , to me. With Superman it was laughable really. The guy just saved a squirrel in front of you and you think he has an evil harem. Also ,it was hilarious that Jor-el's and Lara's last message to their son would be to have as many wives. What !! Just leave it at ruling over Earth, if you have to.
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 8/24/2025, 5:08 PM
@Ojeet78 - you don’t think the public can be easily swayed and change back & forth…

I feel there’s enough instances in real life that prove otherwise.

Also they tell him to rule Earth and then what?.

They told him to take as many wives to basically rebuild the Kryptonian race on Earth since Krypton was going to be destroyed , not because they just wanted him to
Ojeet78
Ojeet78 - 8/24/2025, 5:26 PM
@TheVisionary25 - Not in a matter of minutes or seconds. They change their mind immediately. Maybe over a course of weeks or months with some examples to back it up could have worked. Not in seconds. I liked both movies but cant look past stuff like this. Jor El and Lara's speech was just bad dialogue writing which they'll probably retcon. I found it unbelievable that this is what they were saying. It felt less tragic or serious and more hilarious in my opinion. The stuff with Pa Kent was so beautiful and the stuff with the Els was just outright hilarious (which is not how it should have come across). Yeah just tell him to rebuild Krypton in his image or whatever. Dont overexplain it, makes it sound ridiculous.
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 8/24/2025, 5:49 PM
@Ojeet78 - to each their own , I thought it worked fine imo (also I doubt the retcon the El twist)

Also for Superman , it was obviously over a week or so and while FF it did take Sue’s speech but it was an effective one.

People can change their opinions on a dime once more evidence is presented or they are made to change their minds…

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Ojeet78
Ojeet78 - 8/24/2025, 6:13 PM
Humor me but this is how I would have played it. I'd have Superman fight the Justice Gang to save the kaiju and take it to his fortress. I know he'd do that cause Superman is kind and believes every life is worth saving. That would add friction and maybe forment distrust amongst the folk. Have the video come out at that time as well and maybe then it could work. Unwarranted anger and mistrust from the people but at least it wouldn't feel out of place. Also get rid of the multiple wives line. My planet is falling apart, but let me impart this ridiculous info to my infant son, lol.
The Fantastic Four crowd is a lost cause in my opinion. So entitled. Those journalists yelling at Reed as if he wasn't trying hard enough already. Not entirely surprised though. The crowd in Marvel comics have been horrible people as well. So consistent I guess.
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 8/24/2025, 6:29 PM
@Ojeet78 - I get yah but given that this Superman is only been around for 3 years at this point , I can buy people turning on him quickly given he’s still fairly new.
Laridian
Laridian - 8/24/2025, 4:04 PM
Cue the idiots: "LOOK WHAT WE COULD HAVE HAD!!" What we GOT was a damn good movie. Editing exists for a reason.
asherman93
asherman93 - 8/24/2025, 4:12 PM
@Laridian - To be fair:


(And I actually forgot that Pedro Pascal was playing the guy who said this when I thought about it.)
RolandD
RolandD - 8/24/2025, 9:59 PM
@Laridian - Some people just like to complain and there’s been lots more of that with social media. I’ve said it before on here. There seems to be a growing sense of entitlement about these movies. They didn’t make the movie exactly how I wanted it to, so it’s trash. Life is full of accepting things as they are and if something is really bad, yes, it deserves criticism, but these movies don’t have to be made exactly how one person likes them. I know I’m exaggerating a little bit here for a fact, but I think you get what I’m talking about.
Laridian
Laridian - 8/24/2025, 11:04 PM
@RolandD - I do. Movies need editing, otherwise you end with a self-indulgent 4 hour mess that wastes time on slo-mo shots of coffee cups and shit like that.
DREAMER
DREAMER - 8/24/2025, 4:40 PM
Release the extended cut!
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 8/24/2025, 4:46 PM
If true (which it seems likely to be) , I honestly don’t think some of these are needed though without knowing the full context of the cut dialogue scenes in the Baxter Building or Galactus’s brief exchange with the team in the third act , I can’t be sure…

The H.E.R.B.I.E scene could have given the movie an edge & such but it raises the question how that group of people got to him in the Baxter Building or is this just another one of the many H.E.R.B.I.E’s Reed has made for people?.

Honestly , I think the movie just needed an extra 10 minutes or so to help it breathe a bit but the stuff out of this I would have kept was the Red Ghost action sequence & the later stuff with him in prison since the former could have shown Reed’s stretching abilities more in action at least!!.

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TheShellyMan
TheShellyMan - 8/24/2025, 5:03 PM
I would've liked this movie more if they hadn't cut so much from it.
Spike101
Spike101 - 8/24/2025, 5:11 PM
I love how they tell you about all the good stuff you could have had after delivering a below average product.
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 8/24/2025, 5:11 PM
Also going by that , I’m glad the Subterrenea scene was cut because why would Mole man want to start a revolt if Sue already helped him with the surface world before?.

I get things can change but still feels weird without any additional context…

Plus I like the scene of him coming to the Baxter Building since it gives insights into his relationships with almost everyone there then just Sue (his antagonism towards Reed & Johnny was fun).
MarvelZombie616
MarvelZombie616 - 8/24/2025, 5:25 PM
Superman is 129 minutes.
F4 is 115 minutes.

Which one made more money?
RolandD
RolandD - 8/24/2025, 10:02 PM
@MarvelZombie616 - You are talking about a correlation, not causation.
Matchesz
Matchesz - 8/24/2025, 5:44 PM
Gotta make damn sure movie is as uneventful as possible
AllsGood
AllsGood - 8/24/2025, 5:56 PM
The Fantastic Four: First Steps has seen a surge in interest from moviegoers in recent weeks, and that's going to help propel Marvel's First Family to an eventual $500+ million at the global box office.

Marvel Studios The Fantastic Four: First Steps will Make a Small Profit.
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