James Gunn Addresses TITANS & DOOM PATROL Cancellations: "The Decision To End The Series Precedes Us"

James Gunn Addresses TITANS & DOOM PATROL Cancellations: "The Decision To End The Series Precedes Us" James Gunn Addresses TITANS & DOOM PATROL Cancellations: "The Decision To End The Series Precedes Us"

Last night, we got the disappointing news that both Doom Patrol and Titans have been cancelled by HBO Max, and DC Studios co-head James Gunn has now confirmed that the decision was out of his hands.

By MarkCassidy - Jan 26, 2023 02:01 PM EST
Filed Under: Doom Patrol

The news broke late last night that HBO Max has cancelled Titans and Doom Patrol, with both DC Comics-based series set to wrap-up after their current fourth seasons.

Producers were said to have seen "the writing on the wall," and ensured that these final seasons will give fans a satisfactory conclusion.

Though the trade's reports did mention that the decision to axe the shows was made before James Gunn and Peter Safran came on board as DC Studios co-heads, the Guardians of the Galaxy and The Suicide Squad director still got a lot of flak about it on social media (no surprise there) from people who assumed he was the one to make the call.

Gunn has now responded, making it clear that the decision was out of his hands.

The filmmaker also replied to a query about the cancellations and whether he would have had the power to keep the Titans and Doom Patrol actors on as their respective characters whether the shows were allowed to continue or not.

Can we expect any of the old guard to stay in their roles as the new DCU begins to take shape? Aquaman star Jason Momoa recently stated that he's "going nowhere," but he may not have much choice in the matter if Gunn and Safran do implement a full reboot of the franchise.

Gunn assured fans that the first part of the new DCU slate would be announced this month, but February is fast approaching.

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itzayaboy
itzayaboy - 1/26/2023, 2:34 PM
I’d keep Brenton Thwaites as Nightwing. He’s great in the role.
Nightwing1015
Nightwing1015 - 1/26/2023, 2:46 PM
@itzayaboy - IDK how anyone can rly say this. He's got almost the perfect look for Dick Grayson. Like he stepped off the page. But the way he's written, the way Brenton plays him is so far off what Nightwing should be. He's not a wisecracking, confident, smooth-talker in Titans. He's a mostly depressed, angry and mopey dude who is, for the most part, a bad team leader.

Maybe with better writing Brenton could play him differently but right now, comparing him to something like Young Justice Nightwing is painful.
FireandBlood
FireandBlood - 1/26/2023, 2:51 PM
@Nightwing1015 - Agreed completely. Character wise, he’s nothing like Dick Grayson. One of the reasons I find the show unbearable.
tmp3
tmp3 - 1/26/2023, 2:39 PM
titans is one of the worst adaptations dc has ever done. doom patrol was solid, didn't really get around to the last 2 seasons, but it's a minor miracle that a show that niche managed to get as many episodes as it did.
not really hyped for gunn's tenure at dc's second attempt at being the mcu. we'll see.
RebelCommander
RebelCommander - 1/26/2023, 3:08 PM
@tmp3 - Titans had so much potential. Season 2 and 3 I felt were pretty good, but that's when they focused on Gotham and were less mystical in their stories I felt.
AmazingFILMporg
AmazingFILMporg - 1/26/2023, 2:40 PM
But isn't he the boss? Just be a man and say it doesn't fit with your plans💪



Be alpha🙆
pitbull76
pitbull76 - 1/26/2023, 3:10 PM
@AmazingFILMporg - I think the guy has been pretty open so far I see no reason in him denying this story.
GhostDog
GhostDog - 1/26/2023, 2:40 PM
Titans was a waster of an adaptation
soberchimera
soberchimera - 1/26/2023, 2:42 PM
@GhostDog - Agreed, the TT are the X-Men of the DCU, and should be getting a film adaptation, WITH Cyborg.
FilmGuy7878
FilmGuy7878 - 1/26/2023, 2:46 PM
@soberchimera - I would say the Doom Patrol are the X-Men of the DCU (they came before the X-Men actually). But I do agree that the Teen Titans need to be in Gunn's DCU.
GhostDog
GhostDog - 1/26/2023, 3:03 PM
@soberchimera - yea Titans is worthy of a film adaptation or at the very least a premium cable/streaming take.
soberchimera
soberchimera - 1/26/2023, 4:17 PM
@FilmGuy7878 - In terms of a comic that was competing directly with Uncanny X-Men in the 80s and had young heroes with diverse powers that were constantly hooking up.
FilmGuy7878
FilmGuy7878 - 1/26/2023, 6:52 PM
@soberchimera - Okay that's fair lol.
Doomsday8888
Doomsday8888 - 1/26/2023, 2:41 PM
Mf took Cavill away from me, everybody needs to go.

Th3Batman
Th3Batman - 1/26/2023, 2:47 PM
@Doomsday8888 - I can't help but feel we're going to get some weird mix of new and old actors where everything counts from across movies and TV counts.
EZBeast
EZBeast - 1/26/2023, 2:47 PM
@Doomsday8888 - sorry for your loss but he will be in something that he is really passionate about next at least!
Superspecialawesomeguy
Superspecialawesomeguy - 1/26/2023, 3:07 PM
@Doomsday8888 - James Gunn when he sees this message:



(Sorry I had to lol).
CorndogBurglar
CorndogBurglar - 1/26/2023, 3:23 PM
@GodBeastTitan - I've got such high hopes for Warhammer. I can't wait to start hearing updates about it.
EZBeast
EZBeast - 1/26/2023, 3:53 PM
@CorndogBurglar - me too! They have so many stories they can tell or create. Personally I hope they don’t do the Horus heresy but absolutely understand if they go that way for explaining the setting.
CorndogBurglar
CorndogBurglar - 1/26/2023, 5:17 PM
@GodBeastTitan - Horus Heresy is the best way to explain Chaos and how dangerous it is, as well as setting up how the Imperium works, both before and after the traitor legions turned on them.

But I don't really want to do that either. I personally think each season should focus on different chapters and just do original stories or loosely based stories. Like Season 1 could be the Ultramarines discovering the Tyranids and fighting them for the first time. Season 2 could be Blood Angel's against the Orks. Season 3 could Space Wolves vs whoever. And each season we also learn about the background and history of the chapter and what makes them all different.

Then they could do a Deathwatch season with a squad made up of people from all those chapters from previous seasons.

Something like that could be really cool without limiting everyone to just the Ultramarines. But I would also love an Imperial Guard season thrown in there too. As cool as space Marines are, the Guard are so fun.
EZBeast
EZBeast - 1/27/2023, 10:28 AM
@CorndogBurglar - I think them having individual seasons focused on individual chapters or imperial regiments would be the most entertaining. Death watch would be perfect for this style!

I picture it being difficult going along the lines of following a handful of characters through multiple seasons and staying interesting where focusing on something different each month is the way to go imo
CorndogBurglar
CorndogBurglar - 1/27/2023, 10:49 AM
@GodBeastTitan - Yeah, it's just that I want to be able to see all the different races and armies in action, as well as a good amount of space marine chalters, at some point. And doing a different enemy against a different space marine chapters seems like the best way to do that.

And they could build to the Deathwatch season and take the most popular character from each season's chapter and have them all get placed in the same Deathwatch squad together. I think that could be awesome.

I certainly don't want one enemy race to be an overarching enemy though. They are all cool in their own right and deserve time to shine.
EZBeast
EZBeast - 1/27/2023, 11:09 AM
@CorndogBurglar - dude that second idea about the death watch would be [frick]ing awesome!

Also the show must have ORKS!!! I will not stand for chaos and nids being the only enemies. Da orks need to smash some gitz!
EZBeast
EZBeast - 1/27/2023, 11:10 AM
@CorndogBurglar -
CorndogBurglar
CorndogBurglar - 1/27/2023, 6:58 PM
@GodBeastTitan - Gotta love the Orks!
ModHaterSLADE
ModHaterSLADE - 1/26/2023, 2:42 PM
Doom Patrol has been consistently good, but Titans just hasn't been nearly as good as the first season, and even that had its low points.
SonOfAGif
SonOfAGif - 1/26/2023, 2:42 PM
@ModHaterSLADE - Titans went from HBO Max to CW in quality really really fast.
Nightwing1015
Nightwing1015 - 1/26/2023, 2:50 PM
@ModHaterSLADE - The first season was the weakest. After the first season they leaned more into the Deathstroke and Jason Todd stuff which was the best of Titans for the most part.
ModHaterSLADE
ModHaterSLADE - 1/26/2023, 3:00 PM
@SonOfAGif - Agreed
ModHaterSLADE
ModHaterSLADE - 1/26/2023, 3:01 PM
@Nightwing1015 - Meh. Agree to disagree.
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