@FireandBlood - ...when did that happen with Danny rand as iron fist? Ffs, his best friend is an indestructible black man.

Just presenting a white person as a hero doesn't make other groups automatically incompetent or without agency. Ffs, based on your logic you can't have any heroes because said hero will always be one race and that means every other race is incompetent and without agency.

I swear, your ideology just gets more idiotic the more you try to justify your clear double standards and hypocrisy.

@Origame - Oh and that’s been a thing with Danny Rand since his conception. He’s the saviour and protector of K’un Lun, a mystical nation of Asian people. Or didn’t you know that either? 😂

You lack not only the social awareness to understand why stripping a non-white party of its competency and agency just to hand it over to a white person is problematic, but also the basic education to understand what’s problematic about it in the first. But then again, you are the guy that claims systemic racism doesn’t exist, so no surprise there.

@FireandBlood - and dude, those same people taught him how to fight. Not only that, but there have been plenty there who were protectors before Danny.

So by your own definition, how does that make Asians look incompetent?

And you're the guy that can't prove systemic racism exists.

@FireandBlood - 1) yeah, and that literally only matters when proving you're not racist. Face it, by your own definition no character that is a white hero can avoid being a white savior. Meaning you're racist.

2) well that's what systemic racism is my dude.

@Origame - The Tl;dr to every one of your comments is “minorities and woman are ruining my entertainment” and you think because you say “all the entertainment written for minorities and woman is bad” it hides the fact the your actual problem is you just don’t want any woman or minority in anything but a insignificant supporting role in your entertainment.

Your entertainment being, btw, American Hollywood productions, because if it isn’t catering to you, then it’s not worth being made. Because this stuff should be made for white males first, and everyone else second and everyone else should like it anyway because white males do, and that’s the only standard that any of these productions should concern themselves with meeting.

@FireandBlood - no. The tldr of my comment is that activists are ruining my entertainment. Plenty of women and minorities are making art I love. Like Jenna Ortega, Jordan peele, and Donnie yen.

And since this is about the netflix stuff, I've praised Jessica Jones and Luke cage, and the only show I've actually disliked was iron fist.

But sure, keep insisting I'm the racist one while arguing white people shouldn't be heroes 🤣

@Origame - “then what is systemic racism?

Ladies and gentlemen, the “teacher” 😂

[frick]ing Google it. Educate yourself. Read and read it properly, then reread it and then read it again with your illiterate ass, just to ensure you actually take it in because you struggle, and it shows.

@FireandBlood - 1) literally your first comment.

2) well considering iron fist is a new York based superhero and saves many different groups, he either isn't a white savior or you just count any time a white hero saves a minority community, meaning it's basically unavoidable.

And don't try to say "they can just not help minorities" because you and I both know you'd be b!tching about them not bothering to save any black people too.

3) then what am I "really trying to say"? Huh? I dare you to say what you think I'm trying to say.

@FireandBlood - dude, stfu. There is no way to prove I'm not a racist to you because you refuse to accept the truth. Meanwhile you haven't proven you don't hate white people outside of just stating part of you is apparently white. 🤣

@Origame - “And don't try to say "they can just not help minorities" because you and I both know you'd be b!tching about them not bothering to save any black people too.”

Why would I say that? God, I’ve gotta stop doing this with you. I’m quite literally having a debate with someone who has repeatedly shown that he’s a full on illiterate entirely incapable of debating anything with a lick of logic due to his severely underdeveloped frontal lobe, so I’m going to wrap this up and be done with it.

This issue of the white saviour trope isn’t that Iron Fist saves minorities. It’s that he was intentionally created to be the only person who can. Listen to what I’m saying. He’s not the saviour of a diverse group of people, he’s the saviour of a minority group who, because of his very existence, have been denied the agency to save themselves. Read that again, then again, again, and one more time for good measure, then let it marinate, m’kay?

It’s not what you’re really trying to say, it’s what you’re putting some much effort into really not, doing every jive known to mine just to dance around it. But you already know that.

@FireandBlood - 1) context buddy. That's exactly what you were communicating in that first comment. Why else would you be talking about the negative aspects of the character trope right after I said getting rid of the white savior trope is a dumb reason to not include Danny as the iron fist.

Also, yeah, he says that. Because that's his job. Whether in the show or in the comics, though, he doesn't actually protect kun lun and instead just goes to new York for literally all his adventures.

You're labeling him a white savior because of sh!t he doesn't even do in any incarnation of his 🤣

Also, again, the people of kun lun trained him. They are depicted as extremely competent.

@Origame - “That's exactly what you were communicating in that first comment.”

Except it’s not. Reading comprehension, buddy. It will always and forever be your friend, if you let it. But let’s scroll back…

“So you don’t see any issue in a non-white community being saved by a white person in such a way that suggests the non-white party lacked the competency or agency to do it on themselves?”

That’s what I was asking, quite simply so as well. Yet you couldn’t answer, to no surprise. But not only could you not answer it, you’ve made a piss poor attempt at trying to twist it into something that was never said in the first place. 0/10, no effort made.

@Origame - The only person around these parts trying to built up his victim points is you when you start crying about people picking on your for being autistic, even though nobody even knew you was autistic in the first. Now that’s a first class victim mentality if I ever saw it. Lose an argument and pull a card that nobody saw coming.

@Origame - There you go again, using another word in the wrong way, and this is why we’re all silly for letting you play this make believe teacher role in the first place. But I’m not going to enabling this type of behaviour with you anymore, and make no mistake. I’m not saying I don’t believe you. I’m outright saying you’re not a teacher, and you’re not fooling anyone.

[frick] Disney. I can assure you, whatever the [frick] Disney is doing now, tomorrow or the next day doesn’t bother me. I enjoy their products, and it’ll never be anything more than that, unless they pay me. But whatever the [frick] Disney is doing, it doesn’t matter because nobody except your weird ass is taking anything they do personally.

@Origame - I didn’t take you out of context, thicko. I quoted what I wrote, while you made up some shit I didn’t, all the while dodging the original question posed to you in the first place.

@FireandBlood - I have to give you credit for your perseverance. Origame is aggressively illogical. It's impossible to educate him because he simply plays blind to reality. It's definitely! "Don't argue with idiots, because they will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience" kind of situation 🤷🏻‍♂️

@Origame - Hey, call me out for a Disney simp if you want. That’s not something that’ll ever bother me 1) because I’m not and 2) that type of “insult” is entirely beneath me.

Oooo, a Disney simp. What will I ever do now I’ve been called that? What will the denizens of CBM think of me now? 😂

@Izaizaiza - He doesn’t want to be educated, because he’s a classic example of a M4z KnowItAll, and what could someone who already knows it all possibly have left to learn? 🥴

@FireandBlood - well, 1) if you aren't then why are you simping? And 2) yet you feel the need to defend yourself