James Wan Conjuring Up Sea Monsters For AQUAMAN Movie

James Wan Conjuring Up Sea Monsters For AQUAMAN Movie

It sounds as if Jason Momoa's Arthur Curry will be battling sea monsters in James Wan's live-action Aquaman movie. Could it be The Trench, King Shark or some other creature from his rogues gallery?

Perhaps James Wan's experience with crafting the creepy and grotesque in The Conjuring franchise is the reason why Warner Bros. turned to him for what might be the riskiest film in the DCEU slate, Aquaman.  Perpetually depicted in various forms of media as a joke or useless, Jason Momoa's standalone film won't have the same level of pre-existing brand awareness  like Henry Cavill's Superman, Ben Affleck's Batman and Gal Gadot's Wonder Woman.  For decades, Aquaman has existed on the fringes of the shining spotlight focused on DC Comic's holy trinity.  While attending WonderCon this past weekend, Wan stated as much, however his comments hint at what will certainly be an interesting take on the character.

"I think, like most people, we are familiar with Aquaman.  We grew up reading or watching this character on the peripheral. I was never so in depth with Aquaman as, let’s say, I was with X-Men. I grew up loving X-Men, Spider-Man and Batman. Those are obviously the key big ones, but there’s always something kind of cool about Aquaman still, the idea of creating a huge world that is on our planet. That’s the thing about Aquaman that’s cool is he’s not an alien, right? He’s from our planet and he’s from a society that we’re not privy to in the context of the story. Isn’t it crazy to think that we’ve explored space more than we have explored the depths of our ocean? That just fires up my imagination about potential sea monsters and cool creatures, that kind of stuff."

Will the primary antagonist of the film be a sea monster or sea creatures? Geoff Johns' recent run on the solo Aquaman title introduced The Trench,  vicious sea creatures that live in a crack on the ocean floor.   Other possibilities would be Creature King, Deep Six and King Shark, just to name a few possibilites.  However, if the primary antagonsit of the Aquaman film are sea monsters or creatures, that seemingly rules out Ocean Master and Black Manta, the two most popular characters in Aquaman's rogues gallery.

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BlackIceJoe - 3/27/2016, 7:11 PM
I guess we're getting the Cthulhu Topo version and I'm alright with that.
HurricaneXavier - 3/27/2016, 7:11 PM
I want to see Aqualad and Black Manta in this movie.
TheFamousJMC - 3/28/2016, 6:12 AM
Nobody cares about Aquaman. Conan is a much bigger character, and that flopped so this one is definitely doomed.
Tevii - 3/28/2016, 8:07 AM
@HurricaneXavier - Which Aqualad... the original or the one from Young Justice
Tevii - 3/28/2016, 8:08 AM
@TheFamousJMC - Wow your positive energy is overwhelming me. Conan failed because it was not very good and the marketing was non existent.
Aquaman could be good and you KNOW WB will push the marketing....
HurricaneXavier - 3/28/2016, 9:22 AM
@Tevii - YJ, he's a beast.
TheFamousJMC - 3/28/2016, 11:08 AM
@Tevii - Oh ok as long as WB has the marketing covered..... derp.
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DerekLake - 3/27/2016, 7:15 PM
Despite my issues with BvS and Snyder's dismissal of Superman as an integral part of the Justice League, I'm still excited for this movie! I love that they are approaching this as though it's an entirely different world. It should really feel like that.

I don't see how it rules out Ocean Master. In fact, he's the best person to use the creatures of the deep against Aquaman. Most likely Wan is just referring to taking creative liberties with what actually exists down there. Making Aquaman's world more unique, more dangerous, and perhaps a little scary. I hope it has as much world building as Man of Steel's Krypton.
AquamanIsTheBest - 3/27/2016, 7:30 PM
@DerekLake - How did Snyder dismiss Superman as integral to the JL?
jaxr127 - 3/27/2016, 7:40 PM
@AquamanIsTheBest - I'd like to know this too?
LexHairFight - 3/27/2016, 8:03 PM
@AquamanIsTheBest & @jaxr127 -

I have a guess where @DerekLake is coming from - Spoilers to follow....

I definitely think Snyder doesn't like the character. He's taken dramatic liberties of his affiliations - Jimmy Olsen, Lex, even his father. He's also made Lois more relevant than Clark - why was Lois the one doing all the research behind Lex and leaving Clark to do very little (he went to the party and he asked Perry White multiple times to report on Batman - that's literally all Clark did all movie)? There's a big reason why people feel Superman is so misrepresented in the Universe. All of this before the death of Superman.

If you want to read more about why Snyder might feel this way, here's a good article: http://www.salon.com/2016/03/18/ayn_rands_warped_superheroes_of_course_zack_snyders_vision_of_greatness_owes_everything_to_the_fountainhead/

"Which is why, initially, it could seem strange that Snyder would have chosen to direct “Man of Steel” — after all, whose powers are less earned than the man who only possesses them because he landed on a planet with a properly colored sun? But from the get-go, the historically awful “Man of Steel” demonstrated that Snyder is as incapable of understanding simple characters as he is complex ones, as evidenced by the scene early in the film in which Pa Kent implores young Clark not to save him and reveal his special special-ness to the world — and Clark listens. After all, in the Randian interpretation of the universe, uniqueness must be a closely guarded secret, lest it be destroyed by the forces of mediocrity.

Great men perish in this fallen world not because their gifts aren’t appreciated, but because they’re recognized and hated for possessing them — and if you’ve seen any trailers for “Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice” it’s fairly obvious that this is exactly what happened, and pitting Bruce Wayne’s genius against Superman’s uniqueness does little to mitigate the philosophical void at the heart of Snyder’s work, inasmuch as Wayne’s ability to transform himself into the Batman fits squarely within Rand’s preferred narrative of self-creation."

This also explain's his views on Martian Manhunter. Just my take, open to interpretation of course.
arrownoir - 3/27/2016, 9:04 PM
@AquamanIsTheBest - He killed him off, so that he's not among the 3 to unite the JL. Bruce is the only one who'll be creating the league. I don't think he likes Superman very much.
LexHairFight - 3/27/2016, 9:17 PM
@LexHairFight - Now that I think about it, I can't think of a single thing Clark/Superman did to propel the story forward. A lot of things happen to him, but he doesn't progressively make anything happen himself. At least not that I can remember.
DerekLake - 3/27/2016, 10:09 PM
@LexHairFight @AquamanIsTheBest - I'll respond to Aquaman first. Snyder recently said that he killed Superman off because he didn't want Superman to help found the Justice League (or it seems, to be a part of it initially). That tells me that Snyder is dismissing Superman's profound influence on and role in the Justice League.

That said (and this is responding to you Lex), having watched the film a second time now, I've realized a few things about the Superman/Clark story here that have softened my view a tad bit. The central problem with the Clark/Superman arc here is that too much of it is missing from the film.

Let me explain.

Regarding Clark, I do believe that the central part of his story was cut out: his side of the BvS conflict. In the staff meeting, after seeing the "Bat Brand of Justice" on TV, Clark tells Perry that Batman is unleashing a reign of terror, targeting the port and the slums' tenants, with some assistance from the police. Later, he tells Bruce that he's seen Gotham's "innocent people living in fear." I don't know if you recall, but set pics showed Clark exiting a Gotham police station and talking to a woman with a child. So we know that Clark actually goes to Gotham to get the facts. That's a good chunk of Clark's action taken out of the film!

Regarding Superman, two interesting things that I picked up. First, in making his last case to Perry (in which Perry alludes that Clark has brought him a Batman story instead of a sports story), Clark says that the Daily Planet used to stand for something. Perry tells Clark that if it were 1938, so would Clark. Later, Finch - in calling for Superman to testify - says that the world needs to know what Superman stands for. Then, the way the Senate scene plays out is quite odd, with Finch going on about democracy and dialogue and working together, while failing to address either the North Africa incident (the purpose of the hearing) or the Battle of Metropolis (Scoot's reason for being there). Again, as if something was cut from the film. These two scenes essentially set up Superman actually declaring what he stands for (and perhaps inspiring the Daily Planet to stand for something). But the film doesn't actually follow through on the set up.

It would be very odd for Terrio to set these arcs up only to ignore them, so that tells me that Snyder cut out Superman's most important parts. And that says a lot about what Snyder thought was important and what wasn't. Killing Jimmy and Clark is just the icing. Personally, I didn't have a problem with Jonathan Kent's perspective, though I do think it should have been more balanced (that is, Jonathan should have given young Clark a clear, alternative form of doing good and helping people that was less dangerous/controversial). But I don't think Snyder really appreciates Superman enough to do him justice.
Foolsgoldfinger - 3/27/2016, 10:39 PM
@LexHairFight - If there wasn't a Superman, there would be a movie. The whole plot revolves around Superman. In BvS Superman is just trying to be Superman, trying to just "do his thing". But, he's being used as a pawn on multiple fronts, and that's the driving force of the movie. People don't look at BvS as a sequel to MoS, but I do. Very much so.
Claymore - 3/28/2016, 12:40 AM
@LexHairFight - This is true it also makes me believe we will never get a mos sequel
Beetleborg - 3/28/2016, 1:00 AM
@LexHairFight - to be fair, Lois is the far more seasoned/accomplished journalist so she had more liberty to cover what she wanted. Clark on the other hand was stuck on covering Sports
Beetleborg - 3/28/2016, 1:02 AM
@DerekLake - Taking Superman out of the equation after he's saved the world as no one else has creates a void to be filled and that is the basis for Batman wanting to bring them together.
hgokuh - 3/28/2016, 2:18 AM
@DerekLake - you lie in your first statement, so I didn't keep reading, Snyder said he killed Superman because if he was alive no one would think of the need of a Justice League,, because he is so good he can take care of the problems himself. If that's not thinking highly of Superman, I don't know what is.
DerekLake - 3/28/2016, 4:44 AM
@hgokuh - He says as much in the IGN interview. Sure, he may think Batman having to assemble a more vulnerable Justice League is cooler, but it is absolutely false that Superman is powerful enough to take on every threat by himself. Man of Steel and BvS demonstrate the opposite. And in any case, that isn't and shouldn't be the point of the Justice League. And if you read my response to AquamanIsBest carefully, you'll see I said that Snyder dismisses Superman as an integral part of the Justice League. Considering Superman too powerful to be on the Justicr League, even initially, is dismissing his integral role and failing to understand the Justice League. That has never been an issue in the Justice League's entire history.

One more point. Snyder can express a high view of Superman all he wants, but at the end of the day, the sparing way that he uses Superman on screen, the lack of meaningful character development that Superman gets, and the lack of dialogue allowed to Henry Cavill, say a whole lot more than "Superman's so powerful he can deal with any threat by himself."
hgokuh - 3/28/2016, 5:14 AM
@DerekLake - OK, that's your point of view, mine is completely different. On screen he has sacrifice himself four times to save humanity, two in MoS and two in BvS, in MoS when he gave himself up to Zod, and when he destroys the engine. In BvS when he stays with Doomsday so the nuclear bomb will hit him and when he ends up giving his life to stop Doomsday. That's Superman. I disagree also in the character development, but I'm not going to write a study on MoS and BvS to change you opinion, because you won't, this Internet discussions never have a winner, which is totally fine with me, but I do have a different opinion as yours. :-)
LexHairFight - 3/28/2016, 8:07 AM
@Foolsgoldfinger -

You're right, but that's not Superman or his actions that have driven anything. It's just his mere existence that causes all these problems. Yes there was supposed to be fallout from the incident in Africa, but we don't see it. We just hear it brought up once or twice, so it's left underdeveloped.
LexHairFight - 3/28/2016, 8:13 AM
@Beetleborg -

I get that and I agree. It's just written in a way that diminishes Superman and especially Clark. Why proactively diminish his character? Maybe @DerekLake is right and there's a lot of cut stuff of Clark investigating Batman, but it didn't make it in the movie. They could have easily cut both of Bruce's visions as they served nothing for the story, but they left those in. Snyder felt those Batman scenes were more important than having Clark do anything important.
SuperDude001 - 3/27/2016, 7:17 PM
I'm just hoping for an underwater visual style better than Dawn of Justice's...I imagine just CGI, film it like Gravity meets Finding Nemo...then put whatever monsters you want, I'm sure it'll look rad!
HurricaneXavier - 3/27/2016, 7:19 PM
@SuperDude001 - A better visual style? That is what Snyder is known for and he delivered on BvS, not sure how it could have been better.
HurricaneXavier - 3/27/2016, 7:21 PM
I guess you could just be talking about how the Aquamans cameo looked in the movie... But it was suppose to be from some kind of camera underwater, don't think it was meant to look perfect.
Amazing512 - 3/27/2016, 7:49 PM
@HurricaneXavier - Snyder's visuals couldn't be any more overrated in my opinion.
SuperDude001 - 3/27/2016, 7:49 PM
@HurricaneXavier - Yeah no I meant just Aquaman moment (although I do think Snyder could improve all around, as he's more just copying the comics visually than taking influence and being creative himself), like I get it was an underwater probe but the actual way they shot Momoa underwater made him look like he obviously was holding his breath and just wouldn't work for a full film...that and filming underwater lice action for long amounts of time has always been a little challenging to filmmakers
HurricaneXavier - 3/27/2016, 7:53 PM
@SuperDude001 - Honestly I don't think as an actor Momoa is going to be able to pull off anything that is going to be required to make Aquaman work, including not looking like he is holding his breath.
Luminus - 3/27/2016, 9:49 PM
@HurricaneXavier - All they had to do was put him in an anti-gravity chamber and CGI the water over him. Problem solved.

Foolsgoldfinger - 3/27/2016, 10:42 PM
@Amazing512 - Who's visual style, in a comic book movie, do you find great?
ALegendaryPanda - 3/27/2016, 7:18 PM
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