AVENGERS: ENDGAME Spoilers - 5 Huge Rumours That Were True And 6 That Were Total Bullsh*t

It's no wonder that there were so many rumours about what might happen in a film as big as Avengers: Endgame, so we've sifted through them to discover which were true, & which were nonsense! Check it out!

By JoshWilding - May 08, 2019 02:05 AM EST

Filed Under: Avengers: Endgame

Avengers: Endgame was quite possibly the most anticipated superhero movie of all-time (which is now paying off in a huge way at the box office), but Marvel Studios' decision to keep so much of it under wraps led to a lot of conflicting rumours and reports doing the rounds.

Most of those were easy to see through, but others made a compelling case and actually ended up being spot on despite Disney's best efforts to surprise moviegoers on April 26th.

Others, meanwhile, ended up being proved false once we watched Endgame (despite being extremely convincing), so we're taking a look at 11 of the movie's biggest rumours here, singling out the ones that were true and those that we now know were complete and utter bullsh*t.

So, to check out this full list, all you guys have to do is click on the "View List" button down below!

TRUE: The Stark Gauntlet

One recurring theme in plot leaks for Avengers: Endgame was the creation of what became known as the "Stark Gauntlet." This leaker claimed that The Hulk would be the one to wield it against the Mad Titan and that he would lose an arm in the process.

While some minor details were incorrect (the Jade Giant didn't exactly battle Thanos while wielding it), the fact that Earth's Mightiest Heroes travel into the past to collect the Infinity Stones was spot on, and it's hard to imagine that this was simple guesswork.

FALSE: Shuri Becomes The New Black Panther

Once T'Challa was dusted, fans immediately started speculating about the possibility of Shuri suiting up as the new Black Panther.

It was a nice theory (especially as we didn't find out Shuri's fate until the teaser trailer was released) but obviously incorrect, and if Marvel Studios does decide to take things in this direction, it probably won't be for a number of years as T'Challa's story is far from over.

TRUE: Pepper Potts Suits Up As Rescue

When Gwyneth Paltrow shared a behind the scenes photo from Avengers: Endgame showing her legs in mo-cap tights, it didn't take fans any time at all to jump to the conclusion that she would be suiting up as Rescue.

Throw in some more leaked photos (and even action figures) and rumours started swirling that Rescue would make her MCU debut in this movie. Well, as we now know, that proved to be correct...even if her appearance was rather brief.

FALSE: Annhilation

With a synopsis teasing a greater threat than Thanos and that mysterious behind-the-scenes image shared by the Russo Brothers, it's no wonder that one site incorrectly claimed that Avengers: Annihilation was a title being considered by Marvel Studios for the movie.

This inevitably led to speculation that Annihilus would be making an appearance (Ego was another Fox-owned character they were able to use so it wasn't too much of a stretch), but none of this proved to be correct and the filmmakers recently confirmed that the only other title they considered for this epic finale was Avengers: Infinity Gauntlet.

TRUE: Katherine Langford's Mysterious Character

After seeing Avengers: Endgame, it would have been easy to dismiss this one as being false because Katherine Langford was nowhere to be seen in the superhero ensemble.

Well, a couple of days ago, the Russo Brothers revealed that her scenes were cut and she was indeed set to play an older version of Morgan Stark (which is what the rumour claimed). She would have appeared before Tony after the Snap - just like the young Gamora in Avengers: Infinity War - but test audiences found it too confusing and that led to it being scrapped.

TRUE: Some Major Plot Details

Last December, a seemingly random Twitter account shared a number of huge Avengers: Endgame details and we all figured they were completely made up! Among his claims were Thor putting a permanent end to Thanos, Stan Lee appearing in the 1970s, the God of Thunder's new look, and Captain America saying "Hail HYDRA!"

Needless to say, this was all dismissed as nonsense because it sounded too far-fetched to be true, but it ended up being 99% accurate and was clearly based on legitimate leaks.

FALSE: A Cameo From The Eternals

Avengers: Endgame obviously didn't feature a post-credits scene, but one usually reliable source claimed that The Eternals would more than likely make some sort of cameo appearance right at the end of the movie. Well, while it was a nice theory and all, that movie hasn't even started shooting yet and so it was simply never going to happen, especially when the project is still in the casting stages.

FALSE: No More Guardians Of The Galaxy

The same leaker who provided that accurate information about the Stark Gauntlet also claimed that Earth's Mightiest Heroes' decision to change the past would indeed change the present, with the Guardians no longer forming as a result.

While what the characters did in 2014 would have meant that the team never came together, that's not a plot thread which is going to be explored in the MCU-proper - but perhaps the creation of that alternate timeline will come into play in the Multiverse!

FALSE: An Army From Hel

In Avengers: Age of Ultron, Thor had a very weird vision which seemingly resulted in him visiting Hel and coming face to face with dead Asgardians, including Heimdall (and Loki in a deleted scene).

This resulted in rumours that the defeated Thor would have looked to take the fight to Thanos by recruiting an army from Hela's realm which would have evened the odds against the Mad Titan. Based on set photos and other pieces of information we saw, it's easy to see where this rumour came from but hard to believe that it was something Marvel Studios ever actually considered.

TRUE: Nebula Vs. Nebula

Rumours of cameo appearances from the likes of Justin Hammer and Quicksilver may have been nonsense, but what initially sounded like an equally hard to believe rumour - that Nebula would battle her past self - ended up being correct.

This didn't quite confirm time-travel but it did lead to a lot of speculation about what we should expect from the movie, and was a very cool moment.

FALSE: Tony Stark Is Kang The Conqueror

This was a weird one and, well, downright ridiculous. It was said that Tony Stark's trip through time would have led to his future self becoming a villain and that he would have taken on the Kang the Conqueror persona. There have been plenty of stories in the comics that are similar to this (see: Iron Lad), and it would have been interesting to see.

However, it would not have been the right way to end the character's story in the MCU, as it was far more fitting for him to go out a hero.

Continue reading below for some big Avengers: Endgame rumours from the Russo Brothers!

What Was It Like Shooting Robert Downey Jr.'s Final Scenes As Iron Man?

Avengers: Endgame features the shocking death of Tony Stark after he uses the Infinity Stones to wipe out Thanos and his army. Asked what it was like to shoot Robert Downey Jr.'s final scenes as the character in the Marvel Cinematic Universe, Anthony shed some light on how it all went down.

"Joe and I always say Robert is the hardest-working actor we've ever encountered. He is very dedicated to his craft and puts an enormous amount of his psychic energy into his performance. As you can imagine, this character is as much of an iconic experience for him as it is for anybody in the [audience]. That shot where he says “I am Iron Man” and snaps his fingers was the very last shot of the entire movie. We shot that back in January [during the final reshoots] and we all walked away from the movie after he performed that moment. Oddly enough, we shot it in Raleigh Studios in L.A. where 12 years earlier on an adjacent stage, he’d done his screen test for “Iron Man.” So it was really a sense of completion and [coming] full circle."

That must have been an emotional day and we'll hopefully get some behind the scenes footage from that day on the movie's set when the Blu-ray is released a little later this year.

Is Loki Alive After Escaping With The Tesseract?

Avengers: Infinity War kicks off with Loki being murdered by Thanos but during the course of Avengers: Endgame, the God of Mischief manages to escape with the Tesseract back in 2012.

So, does that explain how he's alive and well for that upcoming Disney+ TV series. Well, yes, but not quite how you might expect. "Loki could absolutely still be alive in an alternate timeline," Anthony teases, once again hinting at a Multiverse made up of different timelines.

How Long Have Captain America And Iron Man's Endings Been Planned?

While the way things wrap up for both Captain America and Iron Man was a surprise, we've been hearing reports for a long time now that Chris Evans and Robert Downey Jr. were planning to leave the Marvel Cinematic Universe after Avengers: Endgame. So, how long did the Russos have their respective endings mapped out?

"About three years," Joe Russo reveals. "The first thing we did when we sat down to figure out the story we were going to tell was decide on the end of the movie. We had to know where “Endgame” was going in order to tell the best story possible. It’s how you maximize the drama and character architecture."

How Do They Feel About Those Record-Breaking Box Office Numbers?

Avengers: Endgame has broken more box office records than we can count and after passing Titanic this weekend, it's now nipping at the heels of Avatar. So, how have the filmmakers reacted to those numbers? Well, as you might expect, they're just grateful to moviegoers for embracing the film.

"For us, the box office is really just reflective of the audience’s appreciation. We put a lot of pressure on ourselves because we love these characters and these stories. We grew up on the mythology, collecting comic books. And these were the movies that we wanted to see, and now we’ve gotten to make them. As kids, we walked out of “Star Wars: The Empire Strikes Back” or “Indiana Jones” having had really profound spectacle, pop culture, cinematic experiences. We really wanted and were committed to giving that experience to audiences around the world with this movie."

Why Was Harley Keener At Tony Stark's Funeral?

"We were thinking about who was important in Tony’s life, just on a very grounded level," Joe explains. "And that was a character who’d shared a special moment in time with Tony. It felt organic for him to be there." In previous interviews, it's been made clear that this appearance isn't necessarily setting up a future for the character and it definitely seems like it was just a cameo.

Were All Those Actors Really Present For That Scene?

Talking of Iron Man's funeral, the guest list is huge and you have to believe that some camera trickery was involved given how many actors were on set, right? "They were all actually there and that was perhaps the most [difficult] shot in all four movies that we've done for Marvel," Joe says. "We spent the entire day before we got them all out there with doubles [practicing] executing that shot."

Do The Filmmakers Understand The Time-Travel Rules They Set Down?

Ever since Avengers: Endgame was released, there's been a lot of confusion over the use of time-travel and whether the ideas presented by the movie actually work. Well, when the directors were asked if they're fully on board with how it was explained or whether there are still loopholes even for them, Anthony reiterated the idea of alternate timelines.

"In the movie, the Hulk is very explicit about what our rules are, which is you cannot change the present by altering the past," he reveals. "All you can do by going to the past — and for a character like Cap[tain America], living in the past — is create an alternate future. So this is a world in which alternate timelines exist."

How Challenging Did They Find Introducing Time-Travel To The MCU?

Time-travel is a confusing concept at the best of times, so what sort of challenges came with presenting that idea in a way that hasn't previously been explored on the big screen? Well, according to Anthony, it was all about moving away from what Back to the Future did all those years ago.

"'Back to the Future' is one of our favorite films, and the rules of that movie are ubiquitous; they have informed pop culture for 40 years. And we wanted to do something different. We didn't realize how complicated it would be to create new rules and have people go with us, but we learned very early on in the test screenings that people are really committed to those “Back to the Future” rules — if you shoot yourself, you should die. We spoke with a few physicists, and there’s a lot of theories about how time travel could work. We chose the multiverse theory. We learned very early on in the test screenings that people are really committed to those ‘Back to the Future’ rules — if you shoot yourself, you should die."

How Does It Feel To Bring An End To This Chapter Of The MCU?

It's no secret that Avengers: Endgame brings an end to over a decade's worth of storytelling but the pressure was on the Russo Brothers to make it a satisfying conclusion for comic book fans.

So, how did it feel to be responsible for wrapping up this chapter of Marvel Studios history?

"It’s a really complicated mix of emotions for us," Anthony says. "This is among our favorite work we’ve ever done as filmmakers, so to get to the end of it, there's a sadness to walk away. But at the same time, we really firmly believe that all good stories have to have stakes and endings."

"So for us to have the opportunity to tell the final chapter in that [22-movie long] story was an amazing opportunity and a privilege. Also, it was a tough story to tell. I think for Joe and I, this is a moment where we’ve lost control of the movie and we’ve turned it over to audiences, and there’s a sense of relief in that for sure."

What Were The Biggest Challenges With Revisiting The MCU's Past?

The movie revisits a number of past releases so just how challenging was that from a filmmaking perspective? "Probably just re-creating the sequences in a way that was accurate," Joe explains. "[Chris] Pratt dancing [on Vormir], that’s some footage from seven years ago [in “Guardians of the Galaxy”] and some footage from him now and we had to intercut it."

"People change, their looks change, so we really had to re-create everyone’s look. When Downey is watching the Avengers in that final moment with Loki where he says, “I’ll have that drink now,” that’s all of our current actors being made up to look like they did in the first “Avengers.” It was fun for us to create a different perspective for the audience."

"[While] “Guardians” opens up with this really joyful sequence where Quill is dancing his way through an alien planet," he concludes, "the truth of it may have been that that was all in his mind and he’s really just another guy singing out of tune to his Walkman."

How Do They Feel About Thor: The Dark World?

Thor: The Dark World is one of the worst reviewed Marvel Studios movies (even though it was nowhere near panned by critics) so does its inclusion in Avengers: Endgame point to the Russo Brothers actually perceiving it as being an underrated release?

"Well, it’s hard to judge," Anthony responds. "This is a mosaic of storytelling. It’s an experiment in narrative that has spanned over 10 years and 11 franchises. I think it’s hard to judge anything until the ending has been told. It’s like reading a book and going “I didn’t care for that chapter” before you get to the end of the book."

"Sometimes when you get to the end, it gives you perspective on all the different chapters. So hopefully people can go back and see that movie in a different light now, based on its significance to Thor and his character."

Why Was It Important To Give The MCU's Women Chance To Shine?

During the final battle, the women of the Marvel Cinematic Universe come together to take the fight to Thanos. So, why was it important to the filmmakers to give the heroes that moment?

"Looking back on the entire road that the MCU has traveled, it just struck us how many amazing female characters have entered the [landscape]," Anthony explains. "I think it was really, for us, a moment of celebration and acknowledgment of the intensity and empowerment in that."

Many thanks to The Los Angeles Times for the quotes used throughout this article.

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MusaTariq25 - 5/8/2019, 2:31 AM

That “Stark is Kang” theory always seemed so ridiculous to me. Reminds me why us fanboys don’t write these movies lol...

L0RDbuckethead - 5/8/2019, 3:02 PM

@MusaTariq25 @LordCipher - ...or Harley Keener!

He was in Endgame for a reason...

Kurne - 5/8/2019, 2:41 AM

Lmao I remember when the Fat Thor leak randomly popped up a bit closer to release. It was the biggest wtf on paper the spoiler subreddit had ever seen lol.

RegularPoochie - 5/8/2019, 3:00 AM

"FALSE: No More Guardians Of The Galaxy"
Well that's kinda true, lol.

Spideyfan123 - 5/8/2019, 3:32 AM

I wonder how many articles will be written when far from home comes out??

Chewtoy - 5/8/2019, 3:44 AM

This shows how even people who might have inside information can end up being like the blind man describing an elephant by feel. While all of the false ones could have just been 100% bull, it’s also easy to imagine actual details from the film led them to jump to the wrong conclusions as Thanos dying so early in the script would easily make someone believe there was a bigger threat for the finale, and Gamora was from a timeline where the Guardians never formed.

MotherGooseUPus - 5/8/2019, 4:21 AM

And this is why i stayed off the interwebs after the super bowl tv spot becuz i didnt want to read or know any of this craziness.... with that said, idc becuz i loved Endgame and going in blind was well worth it

NoAssemblyReqd - 5/8/2019, 4:21 AM

I was hoping their time travel shenanigans would give us more of Pietro. But I’m guessing with Makkari coming up in THE ETERNALS, Marvel didn’t want to remind the audience of another character with similar powers.

HeavyMetal4Life - 5/8/2019, 4:27 AM

"it's no wonder that one site incorrectly claimed that Avengers: Annihilation was a title being considered by Marvel Studios for the movie."

And then an article popped up on here following this bogus Annihilation rumor (most of us knew it was a crap rumor) analyzing what this rumor meant for the plot of Avengers 4, and what we should (at that point in time) now expect from Avengers 4.

KWilly - 5/8/2019, 4:52 AM

I was almost 100% sure Avengers 4 ('cause we didn't know the Endgame title yet) would end with Cap's funeral, then Tony's wedding respectively.

But then the actual ending had me like...

Rosraf - 5/8/2019, 5:09 AM

@KWilly - RDJ had to die because his contract demands were so high. He was the one character I knew was dying for good.

LongMayHeReign - 5/8/2019, 6:25 AM

@Rosraf - Beyond that, as shown in Endgame Tony could never just live a normal life if there were new threats. His addiction to protect the world trumped even his love for his family.

DoubleD - 5/8/2019, 5:16 AM

I thought Professor Hulk was cool and at least we saw the Hulk for more then 5 minutes was nice

BUT Please keep the Russo Brothers away from the Hulk. I think they hate the Hulk character and don't know anything about him.

DoubleD - 5/8/2019, 5:20 AM

@DoubleD - At least Hulk didn't die let the Thor Ragnarok director do his future movies.

Vigor - 5/8/2019, 5:27 AM

I kept predicting that the leaks of thanos with his sword was of anpast version of him. But people either ignored me or dismissed that suggestion

It wasn't even a prediction. I just KNEW I was right simply because time travel was involved. And why would thanos need armor and a sword if he had the infinity stones (then people started saying that the stones were damaged in the snap, which was completely incorrect)

ThorArms - 5/8/2019, 8:57 AM

@VigorAhai - do you want some type of reward?

Vigor - 5/8/2019, 9:01 AM

@ThorArms - hey. When we are right about something, and ppl doubted you... We all want that recognized. You would too

ThorArms - 5/8/2019, 9:08 AM

@VigorAhai - nah I wouldn't, but that's just not my personality type.
I also never have seen where you said this so there's nothing for me to give recognition to

bobevanz - 5/8/2019, 6:01 AM

That was obvious lol

IronGiant - 5/8/2019, 6:15 AM

My only real complaint about the movie is the Hulk. After suffering a humiliating defeat at the hands of Thanos in Infinity War, he doesn't even lay a finger on Thanos in Endgame. I would have had him land at least one good punch on him.

DannRamm113 - 5/8/2019, 6:47 AM

Endgame was like a clipshow finale episode of a tv show season. I had a lot of fun, landed in my top 10 MCU movies, but I think it only got great in the last hour with 14thanos.

And, as people were mentioning, I wish they had done Hulk better. They basically made professor hulk fat thor, a punchline, but wheras Thor had his times to shine, Hulks moment was snapping. He should have been standing alongside Ironman, Cap, and Thor

Kman - 5/8/2019, 8:12 AM

@LordCipher - I agree those are the main guys - but Hulk has been getting the shit end of the stick for awhile now. I thought this movie was awesome... but I wish they gave him another awesome moment like in the first Avengers movie.

blackandyellow - 5/8/2019, 6:54 AM

I wish Drax would've gotten a shot at Thanos. His whole motivation was to avenge his dead wife and kid and he never laid a finger on Thanos.

fadersdream - 5/8/2019, 7:48 AM

Time Travel.
I took a physics class towards the end of college that discussed time travel, it was full of PhD students from all around the world, and when the modern concept of time travel differed from Back to the Future, or Quantum Leap or whatever, they didn't just have questions, they were offended. They got hurt and tried to argue with the prof... that and scientific value of poop were two of the funniest moments I had.

There is no such thing as 'time', time is just the measurement of objects moving in space. It is not a river to be traveled upon, it is just a term used to establish placement and location.